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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 14, 2020 8:12:33 GMT -5
Cheers! I will! And good point about that skill not being too worth it for a single AVGR... I will give it some time and see if I want to keep it with Glaciers. So far so good... but I may just go all AVGRs on it at some point. (I have a problem with changing ?dookie? up... it's a legit disorder that I can't just leave well enough alone!) IMO, YMMV Yeah, have fun with it! Last time I played real Falcon, before this one, I was shooting Tulu and ST Specters in Cooldown with 'Goons on Carrier while mid-jump... it was effective as Hell back then, but still only MR and most jumps were to safety. Effective, yet not very exciting. This close range 「dookie」 is fun as hell. I mean, people are GUNNING for you once you show that shield icon... and they think they have you right up until the Glaciers go into effect and then the Avenger starts ripping them apart with the bonus damage from the Glaciers. I am not an expert with it yet, but I am enjoying it nonetheless... even the short lived runs. As I suspected and as you have spent many posts here describing... it is much more fun than the T-Fal. |
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Post by 7Chandrian on Apr 21, 2020 9:27:37 GMT -5
Got Falcon#2 to a decent level over the overdrive!  Is it better to run the higher level as tFalc and let the lower fly and die in the originalist manner, or vice versa? L |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 21, 2020 9:34:01 GMT -5
7Chandrian : If TFalc do your best to run 2 x HAKs. I'm not a fan of Last Stand on a TFalc because you give up the DR potential of an Heavy Armor Kit for the life of the TFalc. With Last Stand, it only contributes to the battle for 4 or 5 seconds and then it's gone. AC is a personal preference that I also don't run. A 2 x Heavy Armor Kit build means you will burn through PCs, but my TFalc with AH can still be tanky if I'm down to 10% health and I have an AH running.
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Post by 7Chandrian on Apr 21, 2020 11:11:36 GMT -5
7Chandrian : If TFalc do your best to run 2 x HAKs. I'm not a fan of Last Stand on a TFalc because you give up the DR potential of an Heavy Armor Kit for the life of the TFalc. With Last Stand, it only contributes to the battle for 4 or 5 seconds and then it's gone. AC is a personal preference that I also don't run. A 2 x Heavy Armor Kit build means you will burn through PCs, but my TFalc with AH can still be tanky if I'm down to 10% health and I have an AH running. I don't have any HAKs, I sometimes run 2 maxed RAKs instead of last stand on tFalc, but I like having the last stand because it gives me one last shot at triggering the Repairs (even though they dont work while last stand is active) Anticontrol works ok on oFalc since the pilot has wonderworker but you need to be able to jump to use it, again Heavy Armor Kit would be better, but cant use what I dont have. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 23, 2020 21:26:26 GMT -5
Got Falcon#2 to a decent level over the overdrive! Is it better to run the higher level as tFalc and let the lower fly and die in the originalist manner, or vice versa? L Nice. Keep going on those Glaciers! I’ve moved Ember/Glacier to my main hanger on my maxed Falcon - 2.12, my only Major Pilot, ugly 5% skin, maxed Last Stand and AC. Got a few Godlikes with it already. Maxed Avengers still make for a solid workhorse build, but true DB pouncing is more fun. |
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on Apr 29, 2020 7:37:31 GMT -5
Rollo TomasiAwesome work on the Fabulous Falcons thread, it's a wealth of knowledge and interesting discussion. I have taken my existing vipers to 11 and enjoy shooting at rampant Phantoms. The 3rd viper is being upgraded and will eventually replace the ever faithful Zeus. However, a question. My pilots skills are Mechanic Adamant mechanic Armor Expert Speedshooter So my question is wonderworker, does it begin when the fangs out are activated or in the jump sequence? Is it worth it? as I'm trying to get as much healing as possible without going the 40 PCs FYI I played against a random Japanese guy who was running a 5 slot hanger all MK2 Falcons, all MK2 Glory's on Castle. Needless to say Blue went down, it was like a marathon, relentless, overwhelming, then to see another Falcon drop, he just kept coming, we were pushed up to the top beacon. We got flanked, he'd die, and come again, top pipe bridge, we'd hold. Get our home beacon back, then we broke, and it was all over, the last thing I saw was a black TFalcon smashing through to our home beacon.
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Post by 7Chandrian on Apr 29, 2020 9:24:03 GMT -5
Rollo Tomasi Awesome work on the Fabulous Falcons thread, it's a wealth of knowledge and interesting discussion. I have taken my existing vipers to 11 and enjoy shooting at rampant Phantoms. The 3rd viper is being upgraded and will eventually replace the ever faithful Zeus. However, a question. My pilots skills are Mechanic Adamant mechanic Armor Expert Speedshooter So my question is wonderworker, does it begin when the fangs out are activated or in the jump sequence? Is it worth it? as I'm trying to get as much healing as possible without going the 40 PCs FYI I played against a random Japanese guy who was running a 5 slot hanger all MK2 Falcons, all MK2 Glory's on Castle. Needless to say Blue went down, it was like a marathon, relentless, overwhelming, then to see another Falcon drop, he just kept coming, we were pushed up to the top beacon. We got flanked, he'd die, and come again, top pipe bridge, we'd hold. Get our home beacon back, then we broke, and it was all over, the last thing I saw was a black TFalcon smashing through to our home beacon. Wonderworker procs on the jump, not the fangs out. It's not ideal, but 7.5% is a decent chunk. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 3, 2020 18:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 3, 2020 19:00:40 GMT -5
Rollo Tomasi Awesome work on the Fabulous Falcons thread, it's a wealth of knowledge and interesting discussion. I have taken my existing vipers to 11 and enjoy shooting at rampant Phantoms. The 3rd viper is being upgraded and will eventually replace the ever faithful Zeus. However, a question. My pilots skills are Mechanic Adamant mechanic Armor Expert Speedshooter So my question is wonderworker, does it begin when the fangs out are activated or in the jump sequence? Is it worth it? as I'm trying to get as much healing as possible without going the 40 Power Cells FYI I played against a random Japanese guy who was running a 5 slot hanger all MK2 Falcons, all MK2 Glory's on Castle. Needless to say Blue went down, it was like a marathon, relentless, overwhelming, then to see another Falcon drop, he just kept coming, we were pushed up to the top beacon. We got flanked, he'd die, and come again, top pipe bridge, we'd hold. Get our home beacon back, then we broke, and it was all over, the last thing I saw was a black TFalcon smashing through to our home beacon. Thx, and keep jumping! Wonder worker is a bit less total healing/sec than mech, but like 7Chandrian said it’s a helpful chunk. Re: Speedshooter - After testing, I traded that in for AdRH. The difference in clip usage was minimal and I love speed, especially when the chips are down. |
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on May 4, 2020 2:23:22 GMT -5
Rollo Tomasi Awesome work on the Fabulous Falcons thread, it's a wealth of knowledge and interesting discussion. I have taken my existing vipers to 11 and enjoy shooting at rampant Phantoms. The 3rd viper is being upgraded and will eventually replace the ever faithful Zeus. However, a question. My pilots skills are Mechanic Adamant mechanic Armor Expert Speedshooter So my question is wonderworker, does it begin when the fangs out are activated or in the jump sequence? Is it worth it? as I'm trying to get as much healing as possible without going the 40 Power Cells FYI I played against a random Japanese guy who was running a 5 slot hanger all MK2 Falcons, all MK2 Glory's on Castle. Needless to say Blue went down, it was like a marathon, relentless, overwhelming, then to see another Falcon drop, he just kept coming, we were pushed up to the top beacon. We got flanked, he'd die, and come again, top pipe bridge, we'd hold. Get our home beacon back, then we broke, and it was all over, the last thing I saw was a black TFalcon smashing through to our home beacon. Thx, and keep jumping! Wonder worker is a bit less total healing/sec than mech, but like 7Chandrian said it’s a helpful chunk. Re: Speedshooter - After testing, I traded that in for AdRH. The difference in clip usage was minimal and I love speed, especially when the chips are down. The Falcon classic will have the first pilot that I promote with 2500Au and get the 5th skill, so I have to choose wisely. 3rd Viper at 10 now and will go to 11 next. My other fav robot the Pursuer, will have to wait for the Sparks to go 10 after this Falcon obsession is over. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 4, 2020 3:51:16 GMT -5
Thx, and keep jumping! Wonder worker is a bit less total healing/sec than mech, but like 7Chandrian said it’s a helpful chunk. Re: Speedshooter - After testing, I traded that in for AdRH. The difference in clip usage was minimal and I love speed, especially when the chips are down. The Falcon classic will have the first pilot that I promote with 2500Au and get the 5th skill, so I have to choose wisely. 3rd Viper at 10 now and will go to 11 next. My other fav robot the Pursuer, will have to wait for the Sparks to go 10 after this Falcon obsession is over. Obsession? Nah.... Well Stu I'll tell you, Falcons aren’t a sport, they’re a way of life, it's no hobby. It's a way of looking at that bot and saying, "Hey bud, let's party!" |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 5, 2020 7:05:21 GMT -5
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 10, 2020 4:55:37 GMT -5
Thanks to the Falcon expert Rollo Tomasi ... I got her all set-up. Let me just say, brawling Ravana's (well actually nothing does ... Leech's repulse? Tis okay) no likey continuous fire from 3 MK2 Vipers shredding them up from 450M or so. So. Damn. Fun. —-One more piece of advice. Get good at quickly getting both the Talon vipers firing without using the center. You can’t empty the clips anyway, so might as well. When you are facing a Ravana, this helps. When you are back to center only, conserve ammo as appropriate. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 10, 2020 12:11:08 GMT -5
One more piece of advice. Get good at quickly getting both the Talon vipers firing without using the center. You can’t empty the clips anyway, so might as well. When you are facing a Ravana, this helps. When you are back to center only, conserve ammo as appropriate. Gotcha, thanks. Since I use wonderworker, and ability cooldown is short ... I use fangs out almost immediately because I gain 15% health. Good points, I catch myself trying to line-up all 3 quite often instead of firing away. In the heat of crazy combat, sometimes you have to just roll w managing center ammo supply, but talons-only firing can be helpful. Wonderworker is great for distance builds, a lot more freedom to fangs out at will. |
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Post by 7Chandrian on May 11, 2020 21:06:45 GMT -5
Went against this magnificent 「illegitimate child」 today,  It was quick, but I had a lot more help. What happened afterwards was much more tedi Tediousous |
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Post by Garbage game on May 12, 2020 1:48:22 GMT -5
Went against this magnificent ?illegitimate child? today, It was quick, but I had a lot more help. What happened afterwards was much more tedi Tediousous Lol, Cerbrus ... what is the red? Ancile Falcon. When youâre too much of a 「meow」 to fully whip it out |
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Post by 7Chandrian on May 12, 2020 13:04:20 GMT -5
Ancile Falcon. When youâ??re too much of a ?meow? to fully whip it out He whipped out those exoduses a couple of times, definitely not meowing it up. |
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Post by Garbage game on May 12, 2020 13:17:40 GMT -5
Ancile Falcon. When youâ??re too much of a ?meow? to fully whip it out He whipped out those exoduses a couple of times, definitely not meowing it up. 1 ball and 2 「wee-wee」s vs 3 「wee-wee」s lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 13:40:30 GMT -5
New arrival.....looks kinda intimidating, lol.....  Opinions? |
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Post by 7Chandrian on May 12, 2020 13:55:01 GMT -5
New arrival.....looks kinda intimidating, lol..... Opinions?  |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 13, 2020 21:06:21 GMT -5
Went against this magnificent ?illegitimate child? today, It was quick, but I had a lot more help. What happened afterwards was much more tedi Tediousous Pains me to see. TBH, I’ve never tried it, but I see that and just...  |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 13, 2020 21:15:00 GMT -5
New arrival.....looks kinda intimidating, lol..... Opinions? We’re eagerly anticipating your report...  |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 16, 2020 19:33:45 GMT -5
After much debate and inner turmoil, I moved this beast from Main to Fun hanger. I like variety and want to give the BlitzenClive more frequent action. Not to worry, I will probably always have at least 1 Falcon in my primary and Viper Falcon still occupies my main hanger and is one hell of a workhorse. No Last Stand on a Falcon def helps keep your skills on point. I scored a multi-Godlike today (like 4 or 5, seriously) at Dreadnought CB. Fantastic fun. Captain Cormac is at the helm and it sports a BAK and lvl 1 AC unit.  |
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Post by RightOn on May 16, 2020 20:03:30 GMT -5
I don't think I ever contributed to this thread. I have had Falcon a LONG time. Like 1st to get. Was on that DR like nobody's business. And one thing's for sure, it never changed. Today it got a tiny makeover. Looks better here. The gold lion matches with the lines (my Falcon has a mere 2 skills, mechanic and sharpshooter, it's only 8 with 9 weapons)  I use it late game in 1st hangar. Great for beacon control and surprising the ?dookie? out of reds with boom sticks. Titans get eaten up even from 500M. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 19, 2020 18:38:17 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov - have you tried Nucleon on tFalc yet? I won one of em, but not sure it’s worth the upgrade time/cost. If the DPS wiki numbers are accurate, it looks about 20% stronger than Avenger on a continuous basis (including that 10s reload). Lower on burst DPS, but tFalc is all about CQC DPM, so that might work out well.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 20, 2020 7:03:31 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov - have you tried Nucleon on tFalc yet? I won one of em, but not sure it’s worth the upgrade time/cost. If the DPS wiki numbers are accurate, it looks about 20% stronger than Avenger on a continuous basis (including that 10s reload). Lower on burst DPS, but tFalc is all about CQC DPM, so that might work out well. For giggles: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&where_thread_title=nucleon&who_only_made_by=0&display_as=0&search=SearchNucleon 2.12 - Short answer: Yes. Results: Meh. It's a tradeoff. Hits pretty well at 500m. You see the damage but it's not mindblowing. After 2 or 3 seconds you gotta let off the big red button or it's kinda funny to watch bullets spraying everywhere. In very close CQC (VCQC?) with Phantoms scurryin' and Leeches leechin' I'm running Ember 2.12. I suspect the Ember does a better/harder job of hitting Phantoms up close due to the wider bullets/splash of the Ember. Ember does "perfect" on-target damage plus splash at 350m. It hits Arthurs hard. For now, the Nuke is on the shelf. I'm glad I did the recon for y'all though. I suggest you run some Nucleon practice matches with a clanmate at lvl 1.1 and watch your hit count. See how it behaves at 400+m and see how it behaves at 20m. The damage does not go up exponentially at 2.12. IMHO. Adrian is calling for a buff and he's right if Pix wants sales to go up. I'll be ready for the buff, hehehehe. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 20, 2020 7:15:43 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov - have you tried Nucleon on tFalc yet? I won one of em, but not sure it’s worth the upgrade time/cost. If the DPS wiki numbers are accurate, it looks about 20% stronger than Avenger on a continuous basis (including that 10s reload). Lower on burst DPS, but tFalc is all about CQC DPM, so that might work out well. For giggles: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&where_thread_title=nucleon&who_only_made_by=0&display_as=0&search=SearchNucleon 2.12 - Short answer: Yes. Results: Meh. It's a tradeoff. Hits pretty well at 500m. You see the damage but it's not mindblowing. After 2 or 3 seconds you gotta let off the big red button or it's kinda funny to watch bullets spraying everywhere. In very close CQC (VCQC?) with Phantoms scurryin' and Leeches leechin' I'm running Ember 2.12. I suspect the Ember does a better/harder job of hitting Phantoms up close due to the wider bullets/splash of the Ember. Ember does "perfect" on-target damage plus splash at 350m. It hits Arthurs hard. For now, the Nuke is on the shelf. I'm glad I did the recon for y'all though. I suggest you run some Nucleon practice matches with a clanmate at lvl 1.1 and watch your hit count. See how it behaves at 400+m and see how it behaves at 20m. The damage does not go up exponentially at 2.12. IMHO. Adrian is calling for a buff and he's right if Pix wants sales to go up. I'll be ready for the buff, hehehehe. Thx for the report here in the only thread that matters. ? That was my inital assessment as well (without actually running it of course) - meh. In VCQC it’s only ~20% better than nerfed Avenger on a DPM basis and weaker on a DPS and lacking physical shield breaking bonus. I already have more than enough heavies for a full jumping falcon hanger, so Nucleon will gather dust for now. Bummer, ‘cause I almost have enough comps for a second one. I generally skip every other or every 3rd gen of weapons so it looks like Cryo will get some love this time around and the endless ammo shenanigans will be relegated to my single Atom. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 20, 2020 7:36:30 GMT -5
Thx for the report here in the only thread that matters. ? I generally skip every other or every 3rd gen of weapons so it looks like Cryo will get some love this time around and the endless ammo shenanigans will be relegated to my single Atom. "Thx for the report here in the only thread that matters. ?" There are other threads? Huh, I should look around more. Skipping generations: That's some thrifty evil genius-osity there. Great tip. But I'd like to rest on my weapons laurels for quite a while. I even want a Ravana but I don't need one. I'm gonna wait and see concerning Ravana/Scorpion. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 20, 2020 7:45:10 GMT -5
I don't think I ever contributed to this thread. I have had Falcon a LONG time. Like 1st to get. Was on that DR like nobody's business. And one thing's for sure, it never changed. Today it got a tiny makeover. Looks better here. The gold lion matches with the lines (my Falcon has a mere 2 skills, mechanic and sharpshooter, it's only 8 with 9 weapons) I use it late game in 1st hangar. Great for beacon control and surprising the ?dookie? out of reds with boom sticks. Titans get eaten up even from 500M. Remember when the "fangs" were medium weapons? I loved it then... once they went full on 3 Heavies it was decidedly, deliciously, disastrous. |
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Post by seanh on May 20, 2020 10:42:23 GMT -5
So I reckon I must be doing it wrong?
Have had a falcon in a mid range role for a while, Viper & two Dragoons (Also had three goons at one point, but prefer the viper in the middle, do have more vipers to level for the all viper build, someday), anyway, I digress. I like it as a mid ranger, works well. But curiosity got the better of me and I decided to give a brawler build a go.
That doesn't seem to be working for me. Have tried a few different builds but I have an ember for the middle slot that works fine. Falcon is 2.4 with two unlevelled Heavy Armor Kit's. I can walk around burning stuff for a long ol while, and that is a bit of fun.
The problem is going fang / talons out. Its a very treacherous business. On a few occasions I have gotten good position on something and laid waste (two avengers at the moment, but have other options if I stick with it) but most of the time I can't go fans out within any sort of sensible range without getting torn apart. So not sure if I am missing an important point?
At the moment I kind of feel I should either just go back to the more mid range option (which is very good) or just turn it to a T Falcon (which being honest this mise well be for all the action the other two weapons actually see).
Would a skin help? Mine does look a bit underdressed?
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