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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 10:58:35 GMT -5
I miss flamers from battle tech, and, fire is cool. Would be a deadly close range weapon (150m max).
Also we would need a bot to counter this weapon, something with a higher fire resistance.
And the forum would think this bot was special ALL the time, you couldn't argue against it...
Fire retardant bot is awesome!
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 11:09:17 GMT -5
MRW DirtyLikaRat® likes my weapon proposal post:  Or was he liking my commentary on the filter? Either way I'm melting over here. |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 16, 2017 11:12:26 GMT -5
I miss flamers from battle tech, and, fire is cool. Would be a deadly close range weapon (150m max). Also we would need a bot to counter this weapon, something with a higher fire resistance. And the forum would think this bot was special ALL the time, you couldn't argue against it... Fire ?special?ant bot is awesome! That's a pretty cool idea... I always thought a daisy cutter would be cool. Also known as the BLU-82. Used extensively in Vietnam and sometimes in Afghanistan... Follow the link and read about this little gem. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82Also.... I beg you PIXONIC to make a weapon that uses the sound of the 30mm cannon, such as the ones the A-10 Warthog carries. If you've ever heard the brrrrrrrrrp brrrrrrrrrp sound of that mutha, you'd agree. It's the infantry man's beat friend. You get pinned down... And call in one these baby's.... Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Sound of victory my children. |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Mar 16, 2017 11:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by critter667 on Mar 16, 2017 11:18:58 GMT -5
Flame throwers work best when a functional heat mechanic exists. Half the fun in battletech was hoping your flamers triggered a critical ammo explosion. I'm not saying we need that exact mechanic, but having heat he a meaningful item along with weapons that impact it would be nice.
You could even go crazy by adding napalm rockets to all launchers. That may be excessive though.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 11:19:57 GMT -5
I beg you PIXONIC to make a weapon that uses the sound of the 30mm cannon, such as the ones the A-10 Warthog carries. A heavy version of the punisher! If it was built into a single bot (a hard point you couldn't change?) and a weapon available as a mount that would be twice as cool. |
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 11:20:34 GMT -5
A Mk-19 and an armored up Hummer!
Thump, thump, thump,thump...zoom.
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Post by BigBear on Mar 16, 2017 11:21:29 GMT -5
Imagine your a soldier during WW2 and you see a Panzer tank rolling down the road, would you step out in front of it with your flame thrower and give it a good roasting?
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 11:24:05 GMT -5
I miss flamers from battle tech, and, fire is cool. Would be a deadly close range weapon (150m max). Also we would need a bot to counter this weapon, something with a higher fire resistance. And the forum would think this bot was special ALL the time, you couldn't argue against it... Fire ?special?ant bot is awesome! That's a pretty cool idea... I always thought a daisy cutter would be cool. Also known as the BLU-82. Used extensively in Vietnam and sometimes in Afghanistan... Follow the link and read about this little gem. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82Also.... I beg you PIXONIC to make a weapon that uses the sound of the 30mm cannon, such as the ones the A-10 Warthog carries. If you've ever heard the brrrrrrrrrp brrrrrrrrrp sound of that mutha, you'd agree. It's the infantry man's beat friend. You get pinned down... And call in one these baby's.... Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Sound of victory my children. I do miss the sound of a Warthog Stomp. Not many here at Nellis...and they aren't firing. |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 16, 2017 12:18:51 GMT -5
That's a pretty cool idea... I always thought a daisy cutter would be cool. Also known as the BLU-82. Used extensively in Vietnam and sometimes in Afghanistan... Follow the link and read about this little gem. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82Also.... I beg you PIXONIC to make a weapon that uses the sound of the 30mm cannon, such as the ones the A-10 Warthog carries. If you've ever heard the brrrrrrrrrp brrrrrrrrrp sound of that mutha, you'd agree. It's the infantry man's beat friend. You get pinned down... And call in one these baby's.... Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Sound of victory my children. I do miss the sound of a Warthog Stomp. Not many here at Nellis...and they aren't firing. They Sposed to be decommissioning the A-10... Freakin sacrilege. |
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Post by Robo Zero on Mar 16, 2017 13:49:47 GMT -5
Imagine your a soldier during WW2 and you see a Panzer tank rolling down the road, would you step out in front of it with your flame thrower and give it a good roasting? If I am driving a Tiger tank mounted with flame thrower I probably would. |
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Post by Strayed on Mar 16, 2017 14:03:54 GMT -5
Just saying, but a flame thrower would do nothing against armor. You need either AP rounds, Shaped Charge explosives, or just really big shells.
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 14:16:44 GMT -5
Just saying, but a flame thrower would do nothing against armor. You need either AP rounds, Shaped Charge explosives, or just really big shells. The M1 Abrams sabot round looks like a giant pencil... the only piece that hits anything anyway. And man can it throw that thing a looooong way. 1st Tank! |
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 14:20:24 GMT -5
I do miss the sound of a Warthog Stomp. Not many here at Nellis...and they aren't firing. They Sposed to be decommissioning the A-10... Freakin sacrilege. They've been talking about that since the 80's. Not having much luck, thank goodness. |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Mar 16, 2017 14:27:36 GMT -5
A Flame doesn't make sense when there's super heated plasma weapons --- which can be seen as a super flame thrower.
Since a Flame Thrower is just another heat transfer device, it is an inefficient device compared to all the other weapons aside from plasma too. I mean, don't all the current weapons impart extreme heat on the part of the mech they contact?
Pehaps if Pix had this weapon's Flame cause a mech to overheat and shut down for a few seconds then the flame thrower would be make some sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:13:20 GMT -5
They Sposed to be decommissioning the A-10... Freakin sacrilege. They've been talking about that since the 80's. Not having much luck, thank goodness. Wasn't the F-35 supposed to take its job? |
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Post by SawedOff on Mar 16, 2017 16:03:34 GMT -5
Flame thrower wouldn't really work in my opinion, but like in a lot of games a weapon that adds fire damage would be cool.
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Post by moody on Mar 16, 2017 16:08:04 GMT -5
In terms of mechanism and visual the Taran is pretty close. I don't know what you would make different in an actual flamethrower.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 18:56:56 GMT -5
Flame thrower wouldn't really work in my opinion, but like in a lot of games a weapon that adds fire damage would be cool. Flame thrower wouldn't really work? It would work the same as plasma and energy sheilds--- because the devs say they work like that. And yes it would be cool, bots that die to them could turn into puddles rather than spin! |
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Post by tectonic on Mar 16, 2017 20:37:49 GMT -5
Instead of a flamethrower how about an extreme short ranged cutting torch? After all, there has to be something that can cut and shape the armor panels of the bots when they are being constructed.
Could call it the fusion torch. Give it a max range of 5 meters. (That means that you would have be on top of someone to use it.) Anicle would be irrelevant because you would have to be inside it to use the weapon anyway. Physical shields would still be an effective defense against it. No reload for it. If you are holding the red button, it is on. The payoff for using such a difficult to operate weapon is that it could bring down the heaviest of bots in just a few seconds. Maybe 15 seconds for a low level torch and 8 for a high level one.
To keep this from being op it could have a fuel tank that only has approximately 30 seconds of fuel in it. No way to refill it during a match. Burn up two or three enemy bots then you have to ditch yours.
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 20:43:07 GMT -5
They've been talking about that since the 80's. Not having much luck, thank goodness. Wasn't the F-35 supposed to take itgs job? The F-35 Can't hang out over the battlefield for long periods like the A-10. The A-10 was, and is still a tank shredder. Ground troops love them because they don't just fire and leave em hanging. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 20:44:16 GMT -5
Instead of a flamethrower how about an extreme short ranged cutting torch? After all, there has to be something that can cut and shape the armor panels of the bots when they are being constructed. Could call it the fusion torch. Give it a max range of 5 meters. (That means that you would have be on top of someone to use it.) Anicle would be irrelevant because you would have to be inside it to use the weapon anyway. Physical shields would still be an effective defense against it. No reload for it. If you are holding the red button, it is on. The payoff for using such a difficult to operate weapon is that it could bring down the heaviest of bots in just a few seconds. Maybe 15 seconds for a low level torch and 8 for a high level one. To keep this from being op it could have a fuel tank that only has approximately 30 seconds of fuel in it. No way to refill it during a match. Burn up two or three enemy bots then you have to ditch yours. Most metal cutting is done by plasma torches and they are shielding gas + electricity... It would have a pretty big run time if it was realistic. Really now were talking about a melee weapon, and that would be cool as well! |
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Post by [NovR]CrayCrayy on Mar 17, 2017 4:27:36 GMT -5
Great idea zer00eyz ! =D ...but...duplicate thread, guys! See this thread please...and vote! war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/31545/threadStrayed [can't seem to tag you for some reason], critter667 is correct about the heat mechanics bit, and I've already explained in one of my posts how all the programming for such heat mechanics has already been done by Pix. Also, "thermic lance" is the technical term for that other weapon we want! It was discussed on Fιεχροιητ™ 's Discord server a while back. ( Paps ) was there! RE: A-10 Warthog, it's a venerable old warrior, more than proven many times over. Budget cuts, unsuitability for "anti-terrorist warfare", the rise of drones, and a few other "unsatisfactory reasons" all contribute to the sad sad decision to decommission it. Well, if I was a military bean counter, I might have made the same decisions....but...what other plane have they purpose built around a single weapon? A ridiculously OP weapon at that! Man, I don't get how they think A-10 is an ugly beast (hence the nickname). She a gorgeous beast in my eyes! |
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Post by Paps on Mar 17, 2017 7:13:13 GMT -5
Pretty sure whichever relevant congressional committee decided to hold off decommissioning the Hog for another 10 years or so. F-35 just can't hack it. Seems to me I read about it somewheres (I keep up with stuff like that)
As for the thermic lance, Heck yeah! I was in on a conversation about them that was a direct result of flamethrower talk, haha. Posted a video an everything. Pretty sweet, and entirely in keeping with what a melee War Robots weapon should be. Y'all can keep your silly laser swords, this aint Gundam.
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Post by [NovR]CrayCrayy on Mar 17, 2017 9:44:10 GMT -5
Yea, F-35 represents the typical American design philosophy for planes - high research cost to produce it, high maintenance costs, sacrifices armour and other physical robustness for electronic and aerodynamic advantages, sacrifices simplicity for complicated "features". Kinda like a high maintenance branded goods only girl. Lots of work, looks great, always the sleekest, but breaks easily, and the high maintenance costs...in time, money, effort, and so many other ways.
The Warthog was more like following the Russian plane philosophy, or your girl next door, low maintenance, robust, easy to maintain (the girl analogy stops after that last one), all parts accessible, replaceable, easy to work on. Only think is that it was a tight fit for the pilot in the cockpit. Pilot comfort takes a backseat that gun, pun intended. All in all, my fav plane for many many years.
Ah well, that's the end of my thread hijacking.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 17, 2017 12:49:24 GMT -5
Great idea zer00eyz ! =D ...but...duplicate thread, guys! See this thread please...and vote! war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/31545/threadStrayed [can't seem to tag you for some reason], critter667 is correct about the heat mechanics bit, and I've already explained in one of my posts how all the programming for such heat mechanics has already been done by Pix. Also, "thermic lance" is the technical term for that other weapon we want! It was discussed on Fιεχροιητ™ 's Discord server a while back. ( Paps ) was there! RE: A-10 Warthog, it's a venerable old warrior, more than proven many times over. Budget cuts, unsuitability for "anti-terrorist warfare", the rise of drones, and a few other "unsatisfactory reasons" all contribute to the sad sad decision to decommission it. Well, if I was a military bean counter, I might have made the same decisions....but...what other plane have they purpose built around a single weapon? A ridiculously OP weapon at that! Man, I don't get how they think A-10 is an ugly beast (hence the nickname). She a gorgeous beast in my eyes! Um, still, Lasers and Tesla Cannons generate a lot more heat than plain old fire. And military vehicles should have the engineering foresight for modules to prevent serious damage from overheating when a flamethrower is pointed at it, just look at modern tanks. It would have to be a plasma thrower or something like that to heat up the bot to the point where it would start taking damage. |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Mar 17, 2017 13:15:23 GMT -5
Kinda like a high maintenance branded goods only girl. Lots of work, looks great, always the sleekest, but breaks easily, and the high maintenance costs...in time, money, effort, and so many other ways. The Warthog was more like following the Russian plane philosophy, or your girl next door, low maintenance, robust, easy to maintain (the girl analogy stops after that last one), all parts accessible, replaceable, easy to work on. Only think is that it was a tight fit for the pilot in the cockpit. Replace "girl" with "sex bot", and I think the entire analogy then applies. Including that last sentence. (oh, I am so getting banned for that) |
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Post by [NovR]CrayCrayy on Mar 18, 2017 6:55:15 GMT -5
Oh, [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk ... Already happening in Japan. Plus, the westernized ghost in the shell movie (sex bots from original manga actually, but still) that's coming out is going to remind us all that it's going to be "in stores near you" not too long from now. |
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Post by Strayed on Mar 18, 2017 11:21:19 GMT -5
Eh, new Ghost in the Shell looks like it's gonna be a generic action movie rather than the revolutionary show/comic the original was.
It's the equivalent of Japan making an anime out of the matrix and turning it into a generic shonen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:40:15 GMT -5
Scarlett may be hot at times, but she aint the "major"! Her "outfit" looks really odd.
It doesnt have the "feel".
For an attack aircraft, the F-35 aint much to me. The Warthog all the way. Its so robust it screams battle field, now were tossing a stealth type plane to do the work? The Viper and Venom - (Huey and Cobra) are set to continue upgrades for the next 10-15-20 years, and they are pretty awesome. Maybe the US version of the Harrier should have gone through the same process. Spend more time while you are flying upgrades, putting together a really good replacement. The Skyraider was a great attack aircraft (dusted a few migs in its day too), and the A-10 does its memory proud!
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