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Post by oakwhelie on May 27, 2017 3:37:01 GMT -5
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Im saving them for dash bot and 1 more orkan. Im in silver with no intention to climb any higher so it doesn't have much impact because most players down here have 4 slots as well. Those with 5 slots are wallet warrior with 3 britbots in their hangar including lancelot and fury or been around for a year with no intention to climb as well or simply cant
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Post by every1jockzjay on May 27, 2017 10:42:06 GMT -5
all these 5 hangar players need to realize, i have the same amount if trophies as this 4 slot player.... that 4 slot player is probably better then you, get your weight up and move to a higher league i woooped plenty of 5 slot hangars when i had 4
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 27, 2017 10:49:09 GMT -5
I cant believe this nonsense is stil persisting, with an inordinate number of people using foolish assertions that they somehow know better when they don't.
If someone is going to spout nonsense to justify their poor decisions, they clearly are set in their foolish ways and no one is going to sway them, regardless of overwhelming data to the contrary.
Let it die and lock this thread, the horse is dead enough already.
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Post by Russel on May 27, 2017 10:55:54 GMT -5
all these 5 hangar players need to realize, i have the same amount if trophies as this 4 slot player.... that 4 slot player is probably better then you, get your weight up and move to a higher league i woooped plenty of 5 slot hangars when i had 4 Might be. But it is not the question. For the most part 3\4 slot guys have their hangar perfectly tuned for tiny amount of gameplay situations. And you can hear them moan "ohh, I hate Yamantau" or, say "Ohhh, I hate my stupid team who can't get those beacons", because they got, say, 2 lvl10 Lancelots, 1 DB and 1 PDB. Just saying, actual hangar might differ. But overall idea is to have, in metaphorical sense, single bot with different loadout and several "lifes". So if enemy is coming in Knights, player is taking DB and shoot them; if they are coming in Carnages, it's PDB turn to shoot them. And then bot is dead, so it's Lancelot turn. And other teammates SUPPOSED magically take the beacons, and if they can't take all the beacons in 6~7 minutes - it's their fault and they are stupid. So, average PROUD 3-4 slot player got small amount of leveled up toys, he cries every time Pixx is tweaking balance, because HEY I PAID GOLD FOR ALL MY THREE BOTS AND THEN I LEVELED THEM UP FOR REAL MONEY, 「bum-bum chapeau」S! And hate "CAMPING MAPS FOR PETE'S SAKE AGAIN". While common 5 slot player knows for sure that game is diverse, and it is NOT by any means the goal of the game "TO HAVE MY GOLD HANGAR THAT I BOUGHT FOR MY OWN BLOODY MONEY LEVELED UP". So, 5 slot hangar can be set up diverse, with beacon runner, sniper, midrange, plasma brawler, splash brawler (sometimes these roles can overlap, for sure) and usually there is a place for "chill out bot" as well as "experimental build". More than that, for the most part, usual 5 slot player is NOT USING ALL FIVE BOTS DURING THE MATCH. <-- this is the most important sentence in this rant. But he got pretty decent set of bots to choose from, and got excellent suitable bot setup for any map. And yet again, 5th bot can be Hydra Doc or Hydra+Spiral Griffin, for the times when you just need to lay back and relax, or exhaust enemies. And you can have it without sacrificing your knife fighter power at all.
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Post by every1jockzjay on May 27, 2017 11:13:16 GMT -5
if your tophies is the same of 4slot hanger your both doing something wrong
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Post by mechtout on May 27, 2017 11:54:49 GMT -5
freakin procrastinators....do everyone a favor and squad among your 4 hangar selves.
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Post by Russel on May 27, 2017 11:59:59 GMT -5
Well, I think that many guys who play very rare (1-2 battle in a matter of days) are actually better off with lesser slots. On the other hand, I'm highly doubtful that such players would read forum\wiki, soooo...
...the actual advice remains the same, I suppose =)
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Post by mechtout on May 27, 2017 12:08:41 GMT -5
they should start a 4-Slot-Hangar War Robots Mercenary FB page that way they can squad with themselves since they are so bad 「bum-bum」 lol
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on May 27, 2017 13:08:38 GMT -5
I'm killin' you with four. Definitely four. Whapner's on at 4. Don't wanna miss Whapner. He comes on at 4.
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Post by MCYL on May 27, 2017 23:56:58 GMT -5
The crazy thing is it ain't even that hard or really takes that long. Started this 4/1/17, by the time the event started 5th slot was bought and 500-600 gold in storage. Not a cent spent on this outside of a 500 gift from a clanmate. there's another 7K+ AU in bots, 2-3K AU in weapons & 7800au in float. The whole point is plan what you REALLY need and keep reserves waiting for opportunities to pitch in.
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 2:27:34 GMT -5
The crazy thing is it ain't even that hard or really takes that long. Started this 4/1/17, by the time the event started 5th slot was bought and 500-600 gold in storage. Not a cent spent on this outside of a 500 gift from a clanmate. there's another 7K+ AU in bots, 2-3K AU in weapons & 7800au in float. The whole point is plan what you REALLY need and keep reserves waiting for opportunities to pitch in. Yep, you just need to play each day or two, complete daily missions, and that's basically all. If you can squad+make test server video it would provide even faster boost.
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Post by hyderier on May 28, 2017 3:51:43 GMT -5
lpgical it make sense. You either upgrade your 4 slots evenly and while saving up for 5th slot or vice versa. You saying doesn't make sense at all. Sorry, I won't be arguing with you anymore, you sounds gibberish to me. The idea is, if you buy 5th slot instead of "final gold bot", you don't have a bot to upgrade. I mean, duh, can't uograde what you don't have yet. So, you have to use a placeholder bot. Upgrading it is wasting time and silver. Playing with unupgraded (slow and squishy) heavy bot is another (IMO painful) option, upgrading only weapons.
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Post by hyderier on May 28, 2017 4:08:20 GMT -5
NO I WILL NOT BUY 5TH SLOT Im saving them for dash bot and 1 more orkan. Im in silver with no intention to climb any higher so it doesn't have much impact because most players down here have 4 slots as well. Those with 5 slots are wallet warrior with 3 britbots in their hangar including lancelot and fury or been around for a year with no intention to climb as well or simply cant Now don't say that. You'll want 5th slot soon enough. Probably by September, latest by end of year, if you're still playing then. Don't push it off unnecessarily, get it as soon as you don't have anything else actually, immediately useful to buy with your accumulated Au.
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Post by zr on May 28, 2017 4:13:32 GMT -5
Its not about slots, until evenly matched, I have 5 slots, when I play with good team mates, I only use 3, crap team, 5 bots dead in 5 minutes, trying to save the game? (written with beer)
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 4:23:28 GMT -5
You saying doesn't make sense at all. Sorry, I won't be arguing with you anymore, you sounds gibberish to me. The idea is, if you buy 5th slot instead of "final gold bot", you don't have a bot to upgrade. I mean, duh, can't uograde what you don't have yet. So, you have to use a placeholder bot. Upgrading it is wasting time and silver. Playing with unupgraded (slow and squishy) heavy bot is another (IMO painful) option, upgrading only weapons. So the main idea is that people ONLY upgrade 1 set (4 bots) of bots\weapons through ENTIRE GAME? So they only have 4 bots+set of weapons good enough to run?
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Post by hyderier on May 28, 2017 7:06:26 GMT -5
The idea is, if you buy 5th slot instead of "final gold bot", you don't have a bot to upgrade. I mean, duh, can't uograde what you don't have yet. So, you have to use a placeholder bot. Upgrading it is wasting time and silver. Playing with unupgraded (slow and squishy) heavy bot is another (IMO painful) option, upgrading only weapons. So the main idea is that people ONLY upgrade 1 set (4 bots) of bots\weapons through ENTIRE GAME? So they only have 4 bots+set of weapons good enough to run? Speaking for myself only: no! The idea is to get like 2-3 top bots bought, equipped and upgraded (to bot level 9 for max speed, at least) as quickly as possible, by any means necessary. These top bots will be in almost every battle for first year(ish) of playing, with only small change in weaponry. These bots will make 70-100% of every battle, so idea is to have them as good as time and Au allows. This basically pushes 4th and 5th slot priority down. But those final slots come in due time. Variety comes in due time. Both bots-first and slots-first lead to same end result in about... 6-12 months or whatever. I'm hesitant to say this is a form of soft tanking. Yes, some matches will be lost because 3 or 4 slot player mechs out, while if they had bought that 4th (5th in higher leagues) slot already, that might have turned the battle. But some are won because 3 slot player has a higher-level bot (compared to if they had bought more slots with less good bots, and compared to median in their league) in right place at right time, and just murders a bunch of lower level reds, while securing decisive beacon lead.
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 8:27:45 GMT -5
So the main idea is that people ONLY upgrade 1 set (4 bots) of bots\weapons through ENTIRE GAME? So they only have 4 bots+set of weapons good enough to run? Speaking for myself only: no! The idea is to get like 2-3 top bots bought, equipped and upgraded (to bot level 9 for max speed, at least) as quickly as possible, by any means necessary. These top bots will be in almost every battle for first year(ish) of playing, with only small change in weaponry. These bots will make 70-100% of every battle, so idea is to have them as good as time and Au allows. This basically pushes 4th and 5th slot priority down. But those final slots come in due time. Variety comes in due time. Both bots-first and slots-first lead to same end result in about... 6-12 months or whatever. I'm hesitant to say this is a form of soft tanking. Yes, some matches will be lost because 3 or 4 slot player mechs out, while if they had bought that 4th (5th in higher leagues) slot already, that might have turned the battle. But some are won because 3 slot player has a higher-level bot (compared to if they had bought more slots with less good bots, and compared to median in their league) in right place at right time, and just murders a bunch of lower level reds, while securing decisive beacon lead. <<Warning: personal preference\opinion post>> So I let myself mark three main statement (imo), and would like to talk about that a little bit. But at firs - thank you, good sir, I can finally find some grain of rationale in "4 slot is enough" Church. Me, as an avid zealot of "Special witnesses of 5th slot greatness", can finally argue with you based on some ideas\facts\strategies other than "ahahahah lolwut?? 4 slots ftw, gtfo!!!!"Soft-tanking.I am not to judge this, because, well, my own gameplay style(I like to experiment with builds A LOT) can be perceived as "soft tanking". But as long as you are not going to deceive MM with your low-level bots, and then bring heavy guns. to a Kindergarten - I'm totally OK with that side. So, first things first, your words made me re-think idea of 4 slot with some powerful bots. Now I think that 4 slot will handicap you, but provide faster Au accumulation, by making sure you win (because your bots are superior) or loose (because there are not much bots\they are not suited for some maps) fast; As a result, you will be getting higher Au per hour rate, but IMO general satisfaction will suffer, resulting in situations when you either: 1) Made powerful sniper setup, and can't win on DeadCity\Moon or 2) Made BritBot hangar, and will be suffering from recent Missile buff, and more, later, by Bullet Buff or 3) Made decent knife fighting hangar, and won't play on Yama\Springfield or 4) Upgrade 3-4 bots to 12\12, and then, during next balance change must start from scratch, upgrading new bots. I see why you are doing this, but it's no fun for me - in my opinion, strategy of building small but strong hangar will turn the game more into gold grind than a diverse battle mech strategic team warfare; but I am not the one to judge what makes people "tick"; it well might be that the fact of huge stockpile of Au accumulation is a turn-on itself. === 6-12 months time to get to "end-result"As for me - I took one lineup to 9\9 in two months, and now slowly getting another 5 bots to 9\9; as I believe that lvl9-10 is the only reasonable thing for the new player to aim for; "Upgrade stuff to lvl11-12" approach, imo, does not provide such great strategic advantage per silver, and, more importantly, per hour, as an alternative approach "Get as many different setups to lvl8-10 to test out different gameplay styles"; And in a long run (say 1-2 years) having plenty of 9-10 lvl stuff provides more advantage to your game than single 12\12 hangar lineup. So, for me the game consist of many "end results", each achievable in 2-3 months time. I usually don't picture myself in a Champion league fighting in "Ancilot Team" in my Ancilot against Ancilot riding Ancilot. === top bots will be in almost every battle for first year(ish)No, no and no. I would die of boredom and delete game if I fight same bots for a half a year. I am bored by Griffin\Leo already, and they were in my lineup for 3 months. So now I'm riding WW bots, in 2-3 months time I will probably replace them with Carnage, Rog, Stalker, ThunderLancelot, Sniper Natty; and then either change in for Rhino\Fujin\Garet\Raijin(?) or something; then Dash bots arrive, and weapons will be re-balanced, so I might have old guys re-equipped... You get the idea. I think, for the most part, old-timers who are doing "re-do" stuff (think Shaolin Rogue and Dredd_77) are doing it because they played the game to get to the "endgame", so to speak, and missed the ride. So now they are trying to get to the same river for the second time. I would like to enjoy it the first time. ==== so, as a small personal conclusion (as I said somewhere in here some time ago) - I think that 4 slot +gold stuff is the perfect solution to the task: "How to get 5 knights in my Champion's hangar the fastest". But it's awful recipe for enjoying variety of bots and keeping game different, and can scare casual gamer away. Because it is simply boring to ride same knights for a year just to be able to get 4 more knights to be battling them for another year. After all, I would like guys who like giving advices, remember Chesire cat, and understand intention of the advice seeker first; asking for what he's looking for in a game firsthand.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on May 28, 2017 14:04:35 GMT -5
Russel2-3 months playing the same lineup?? Holy cr*p! I can't go 2-3 days with the same lineup most of the time. Well. I take that back. I've got 2 profiles with no inventories so they do stay with the same units. But I don't play them everyday either. My ratio of boredom must be extreme. One of my profiles is at level 20 and just has 2 slots. A Vityaz/Thunder/Pin/Punisher and a Gareth/Tulumbas/Pin. Sold out my inventories too. But I am experimenting on something I saw a couple of my clanmates discussing. Build the best hanger possible without spending a dime doing it. And don't blow Au on upgrades and weapons. First buy a gold bot before buying even the third slot. I opted for the Gareth over the Gepard. I have to admit it's starting to grow on me even though I detested the britbots because of their overpowered shields. To soon for plasma weapons but the upgrade on the Tulus and Pins came along just in time for that profile. Then save for the 3rd slot and a 2nd gold bot. Next up, probably Galahad. And on to the 4th slot and 3rd gold bot. 2nd Galahad or Rogatka. Hmm. Then of course 5th slot and a Lancelot. Had 2 Furies in my main profile. Wasn't impressed enough to keep them. I'm already 1/3 the way towards that Gal while still working just 2 slots. But I think I'll have to get me a silver filler before then. What would the forum recommend for a 3rd slot bot?(keep it clean, the mods are watching) I need something substantial that can last a while. Leo? Grif? Nat? Keep in mind no plasma as yet(just started the Work Shop at this level) and no real money to be spent on it. It's an experiment in progress.
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 14:13:46 GMT -5
Russel 2-3 months playing the same lineup?? Holy cr*p! I can't go 2-3 days with the same lineup most of the time. Well. I take that back. I've got 2 profiles with no inventories so they do stay with the same units. But I don't play them everyday either. My ratio of boredom must be extreme. One of my profiles is at level 20 and just has 2 slots. A Vityaz/Thunder/Pin/Punisher and a Gareth/Tulumbas/Pin. Sold out my inventories too. But I am experimenting on something I saw a couple of my clanmates discussing. Build the best hanger possible without spending a dime doing it. And don't blow Au on upgrades and weapons. First buy a gold bot before buying even the third slot. I opted for the Gareth over the Gepard. I have to admit it's starting to grow on me even though I detested the britbots because of their overpowered shields. To soon for plasma weapons but the upgrade on the Tulus and Pins came along just in time for that profile. Then save for the 3rd slot and a 2nd gold bot. Next up, probably Galahad. And on to the 4th slot and 3rd gold bot. 2nd Galahad or Rogatka. Hmm. Then of course 5th slot and a Lancelot. Had 2 Furies in my main profile. Wasn't impressed enough to keep them. I'm already 1/3 the way towards that Gal while still working just 2 slots. But I think I'll have to get me a silver filler before then. What would the forum recommend for a 3rd slot bot?(keep it clean, the mods are watching) I need something substantial that can last a while. Leo? Grif? Nat? Keep in mind no plasma as yet(just started the Work Shop at this level) and no real money to be spent on it. It's an experiment in progress. Man, what do you need so much boring robots for? Gareth, Galahad, Galahad, Lancelot... meh. (about 2-3 months - not exactly; I was buying\upgrading Vityaz\Cossac\Golem\Boa, then moved to Leo and start building my previous lineup; so it's more 1-1.5 months with "frozen" hangar that I was only leveling up)
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on May 28, 2017 14:25:02 GMT -5
Could be Gareth, Gepard, Galahad, Rogatka, Lancelot. I certainly should have specified the discussion was on building a gold bot only hanger. My bad.
Also will have to be saving for certain gold weapons. After the 5th slot, 5th gold bot.
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 14:50:59 GMT -5
Could be Gareth, Gepard, Galahad, Rogatka, Lancelot. I certainly should have specified the discussion was on building a gold bot only hanger. My bad. Also will have to be saving for certain gold weapons. After the 5th slot, 5th gold bot. Oh my. Why do you need all-gold hangar? And why old men's bots? I am playing now in full-gold hangar with Jesse, Doc, Jesse, Doc, Jesse (with occasional Rogatkas)
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on May 28, 2017 15:09:56 GMT -5
Russel'Cause we don't yet have access to the Wild Bunch. That might change the equation up but from the prices I saw during the last events I doubt I'd be willing to try and accumulate that much Au to fill 5 slots as fast as possible. And I am an old man. ?
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Post by Russel on May 28, 2017 15:25:25 GMT -5
Russel 'Cause we don't yet have access to the Wild Bunch. That might change the equation up but from the prices I saw during the last events I doubt I'd be willing to try and accumulate that much Au to fill 5 slots as fast as possible. And I am an old man. ? So, old-schoold KangDae+Noricum Natashas, then?
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Post by dilwale on Jun 5, 2017 13:29:59 GMT -5
I currently have 4 slot and most of times I am out early in game due to knife fighting. So I really understand necessity of fifth slot. I am almost half way to get it. For any new players like me, 5th slot is very important in game. Get the 5th slot first.
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Post by hyderier on Jun 5, 2017 15:05:29 GMT -5
I currently have 4 slot and most of times I am out early in game due to knife fighting. So I really understand necessity of fifth slot. I am almost half way to get it. For any new players like me, 5th slot is very important in game. Get the 5th slot first. I have to disagree with urgency of 5th slot. Currently playing with 3 slots in Android Silver 2, and based on that I'd say 4 slots should be "enough" even for new players. If you mech out a lot with 4 slots, 5th slot is a wrong solution. Knifing is much more fun when you kill, instead of get killed. 5th slot will not help with that, it just enables you to get killed a bit more. (Obligatory note to avoid misunderstanding: of course I agree that 5th slot is critically important, eventually.)
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Post by MCYL on Jun 5, 2017 20:32:47 GMT -5
I currently have 4 slot and most of times I am out early in game due to knife fighting. So I really understand necessity of fifth slot. I am almost half way to get it. For any new players like me, 5th slot is very important in game. Get the 5th slot first. I have to disagree with urgency of 5th slot. Currently playing with 3 slots in Android Silver 2, and based on that I'd say 4 slots should be "enough" even for new players. If you mech out a lot with 4 slots, 5th slot is a wrong solution. Knifing is much more fun when you kill, instead of get killed. 5th slot will not help with that, it just enables you to get killed a bit more. (Obligatory note to avoid misunderstanding: of course I agree that 5th slot is critically important, eventually.) Well, if knifing is your thing there are plenty of great knifefighters that don't need gold. E.g thunder carnage which is arguably the best knifefighter.
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Post by hyderier on Jun 6, 2017 1:01:54 GMT -5
I have to disagree with urgency of 5th slot. Currently playing with 3 slots in Android Silver 2, and based on that I'd say 4 slots should be "enough" even for new players. If you mech out a lot with 4 slots, 5th slot is a wrong solution. Knifing is much more fun when you kill, instead of get killed. 5th slot will not help with that, it just enables you to get killed a bit more. (Obligatory note to avoid misunderstanding: of course I agree that 5th slot is critically important, eventually.) Well, if knifing is your thing there are plenty of great knifefighters that don't need gold. E.g thunder carnage which is arguably the best knifefighter. It's a rock-paper-scissors, but I'd say ability to survive long is such an important aspect, that Thunder Carnage isn't the best because of that. It's so dangerous, it'll attract plasma like no other bot, and also everybody without plasma will seek to deplete its shield from 500m away. Anyway, what knife fighting needs is speed and damage. These come by upgrades. For example, unupgraded 5th slot Pinata Thunder Leo is just a big bag of damage points for enemy to reap.
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Post by dilwale on Jun 6, 2017 11:34:57 GMT -5
I currently have 4 slot and most of times I am out early in game due to knife fighting. So I really understand necessity of fifth slot. I am almost half way to get it. For any new players like me, 5th slot is very important in game. Get the 5th slot first. I have to disagree with urgency of 5th slot. Currently playing with 3 slots in Android Silver 2, and based on that I'd say 4 slots should be "enough" even for new players. If you mech out a lot with 4 slots, 5th slot is a wrong solution. Knifing is much more fun when you kill, instead of get killed. 5th slot will not help with that, it just enables you to get killed a bit more. (Obligatory note to avoid misunderstanding: of course I agree that 5th slot is critically important, eventually.) Get the 5th slot first does not mean urgency. To be able to survive in higher league you need 5th slot unless you are not a knife fighter and just stand behind wall. In game even get killed is fun...if game is not fun then why would anyone play it? I am a knife fighter and I get killed early not due to not having skills, but i don't hide and I take my chances to sneak and kill them. I don't hide or wait for them to come to me...So, in my personal opinion if you want to stay in higher league till end you and help team you will need 5th slot. If anyone want to survive in game till last you can do that with even two bots. Its not survival anyone look for, its about winning.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 6, 2017 15:25:15 GMT -5
Does petevb know you are taking his name in vane?
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Jun 6, 2017 15:54:27 GMT -5
I think many people are just too lazy to save up 5K gold (Me)
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