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Post by Curry Pot on Jul 13, 2019 19:10:44 GMT -5
Changing the shield to only cover the Ares isn't the best idea IMO since it means that the old trick getting inside it with Strider or Mercury won't be possible anymore. It'd be more balanced and look cooler if the shield had a flat cross section and only covered the frontal arc like the Lancelot's and Galahad's, but I'd imagine that that would be harder to implement. A 25% speed reduction is hardly a nerf at all, and Ares trains are still easily run at 45 kph. The Ares' base speed shouldn't be more be that number, and now that the whales are already stirred up, there's no reason Pixo shouldn't go further and bring the bot into balance. Actually it’s a buff, the other bots will be able to keep up and contribute to the train now It doesn't really make a difference, since Ares outnumbers both other Greek bots combined by a factor of at least 10, and up to 25 in LL. The majority of non-Ares Greeks that I see are the limited edition versions, which means that they were acquired for free and very few people think building anything other than Ares or BJ in WS is worth it. |
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Post by linearblade on Jul 13, 2019 19:20:06 GMT -5
Actually it’s a buff, the other bots will be able to keep up and contribute to the train now It doesn't really make a difference, since Ares outnumbers both other Greek bots combined by a factor of at least 10, and up to 25 in LL. The majority of non-Ares Greeks that I see are the limited edition versions, which means that they were acquired for free and very few people think building anything other than Ares or BJ in WS is worth it. True. |
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Post by schrotter on Jul 14, 2019 5:46:07 GMT -5
Pixonic wants you to spend on your phase shift module to escape back to safety. ^^^ 100% this |
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Post by garunixreborn on Jul 14, 2019 6:54:53 GMT -5
People: “If the ares was slower i could easily get into its shield bubble and pound them into dust
Pixonic: *makes ares slow
People: Nah, this doesn’t help at all.
Pixonic: “excuse me what the frick”
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Post by dobby on Jul 14, 2019 7:38:04 GMT -5
People: “If the ares was slower i could easily get into its shield bubble and pound them into dust Pixonic: *makes ares slow People: Nah, this doesn’t help at all. Pixonic: “excuse me what the frick” Why misrepresent what most have asked for? Many (perhaps most) players that discussed an Ares rebalance seemed to favour a speed nerf to the the bot's base speed (ability active or not) as part of a rebalance; as most understand that part is actually quite necessary if you want to enable most current counter-builds to function successfully in a reliable manner. This speed reduction during the active ability is wholly insufficient at hampering Ares-trains, which is one of the biggest balance problems with the game right now; they arn't invincible, but they are difficult to deal with effectively and reliably in non-squad play. The reduced speed will still somewhat weaken a lone Ares, though not by all that much if you want to actually see any semblance of balance; but as Ares-trains are the main issue more needs to be done. |
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Post by integeritis on Jul 14, 2019 9:42:28 GMT -5
People: “If the ares was slower i could easily get into its shield bubble and pound them into dust Pixonic: *makes ares slow People: Nah, this doesn’t help at all. Pixonic: “excuse me what the frick” 1. Make him activate the ability early 2. You attack after his ability is down 3. Still can’t catch it That will be the reality for most of those who don’t have fast bots to get in the bubble. Ares will have 33% more time to get back to cover with 45kph than Hades and 100% more time than Nemesis. It will be hit the least by the speed nerf. Plenty of bots don’t have the speed to deal with them, and new economy prevents people to invest in a counter that still not provides meaningful success rate without anticontrol and last stand. Shield down is at least 66% of the runtime of an Ares. Nerf its speed while it is pants down and not when it is invulnerable FFS. |
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Post by heavypiece on Jul 14, 2019 17:12:08 GMT -5
This morning I finished building an Ao Jun in the WS. Actualy I won 1000 comps in the event chest this morning, that's what finished it. So, I have also won 2000 Ares comps so far during this event. What do I decide to start building in the WS .... An Ares. Perhaps it will be complete before the nerf takes affect. But either way I am sure it will be fun.
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Post by CPDDPC on Jul 14, 2019 23:36:10 GMT -5
The speed neft while using ability is useless.
Even if you have something fast enough to catch Ares inside the shield, they still have Last Stand, AC, or even Phaseshift, you cannot last long enough to kill them.
And that is the case if you have AC ready to use.
In squad game, if you can get into the first Ares shield, the others will shoot you immediately, I tried and get in the shield many times with my Persuer/Strider/Mercury, but can only manage to bring the first Ares to his Last Stand and then killed by the others.
In solo game, most of the time the Ares run around waiting for their cooldown, and most bots cannot chase it.
If Pix want to neft Ares, then make it move at 40km/h, or simply half its HP so once they make a mistake they are doomed.
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