Grimsunder
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Post by Grimsunder on Mar 2, 2017 7:49:25 GMT -5
Taking ALL maps into consideration what's the best option for a mid ranger. To me it comes down to RDB Griff and Trident Fury and personally I feel the RDB Griff may be the better option because it's still useful on maps like PP, DC, and the Moon map when it's released. I have lvl 10 weapons to do either and am comfortable piloting either as well. Just want some opinions so I can proceed in the most practical manner towards a maxed hanger.
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Post by BLYTHE on Mar 2, 2017 8:16:15 GMT -5
Taking ALL maps into consideration what's the best option for a mid ranger. To me it comes down to RDB Griff and Trident Fury and personally I feel the RDB Griff may be the better option because it's still useful on maps like PP, DC, and the Moon map when it's released. I have lvl 10 weapons to do either and am comfortable piloting either as well. Just want some opinions so I can proceed in the most practical manner towards a maxed hanger. In terms of flexibility, RDB. |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 2, 2017 8:16:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 8:28:30 GMT -5
Realistically speaking, the Trident Fury is the best midranger. There are a few spots in Powerplant and Dead City in which a Fury could safely defend 2 beacons.
I prefer the Trident Zeus Trident Fury as my midranger because I don't like to use cheese 'tactics' (3x Trident Fury) to get damage.
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Post by Blurred Vision on Mar 2, 2017 8:29:18 GMT -5
For the lone (mid)ranger in a hangar, I'd say RDB Griff hands down.
I also run a Trident Carnage along with the RDB, but am leveling up a pair of Zeus as an alternative to the Tridents.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 2, 2017 8:31:10 GMT -5
For the lone (mid)ranger in a hangar, I'd say RDB Griff hands down. I also run a Trident Carnage along with the RDB, but am leveling up a pair of Zeus as an alternative to the Tridents. Hey I used to be the lone midranger. and then Pixonic changed the MM system. |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 2, 2017 9:27:39 GMT -5
For the lone (mid)ranger in a hangar, I'd say RDB Griff hands down. I also run a Trident Carnage along with the RDB, but am leveling up a pair of Zeus as an alternative to the Tridents. Hey I used to be the lone midranger. and then Pixonic changed the MM system. that means everyone thought you were dead when all the midrangers were killed, which is not possible. My parents had old lone ranger black and white videos. |
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Post by greyhawk on Mar 2, 2017 10:39:47 GMT -5
Actually i'm having rlly much fun with a tulu Doc, the more i learn how to pilot it the more i find him awesome and usefull in each and every map, he has good speed and agility,good hp and ,if you manage to make a quick draw at the right time , great firepower, plus is rlly funny to play  |
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Post by //OBIONE\\ on Mar 2, 2017 11:10:42 GMT -5
Zeus Carnage is pretty entertaining and effective - except for those cursed shield bots...
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Post by miscanthus on Mar 2, 2017 12:14:45 GMT -5
Trident Carnage is my go to midrange. I like it's mobility and the shield is nice since the damage bug fix. The slower Fury and Natasha builds just don't fit my playstyle. I used to run a RDB, but found the Carnage more effective with its greater range and speed.
While not really a midrange mech, the Patton Gekko is my favorite longer range bot. Something about seeing four lasers shooting across the entire map amuses me. Plus it keeps the midrange players in check. So keep making all versions of midrange so I have something shieldless to torment ?
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Post by Musica on Mar 2, 2017 13:14:43 GMT -5
Currently tridents fury is the best mid range.. able to damage physical shielded bot.. able to damage enemy that hide in cover.. the best map for this bot is shenzen,canyon, and yamantau..but also good enough if you want to use it on the other maps.. Me? I use trebuchet fury to kill any mid range enemy bots..  |
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Post by Sybill on Mar 2, 2017 13:19:45 GMT -5
Got a Trident Carnage and Zeus Carnage at 8/8 in my hangar. Like the Zeus more - once locked on it even takes down Griffs in mid-air. And it has the double fire rate, thus putting more pressure on the reds. As my Carny often is very long lived, I will only run one in my active hangar in future and throw in another knifer for higher damage output.
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Thunder Carnage
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Mar 2, 2017 15:58:05 GMT -5
I'm using a tulu fujin now, apparently it's not optimal, but I actually get better results from it than I did from my old RDB Griffin.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 15:59:47 GMT -5
I'm using a tulu fujin now, apparently it's not optimal, but I actually get better results from it than I did from my old RDB Griffin. It's a good bot. If Tulus had the reload time of tridents I'd use it more often in my hangar. |
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Post by thundergrunt72 on Mar 2, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -5
Taking ALL maps into consideration what's the best option for a mid ranger. To me it comes down to RDB Griff and Trident Fury and personally I feel the RDB Griff may be the better option because it's still useful on maps like PP, DC, and the Moon map when it's released. I have lvl 10 weapons to do either and am comfortable piloting either as well. Just want some opinions so I can proceed in the most practical manner towards a maxed hanger. I run a trident fury. Just remember the splash. It's all about the splash. Especially because I can't hit...Poo-poo. in your face bad word filter! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 16:59:06 GMT -5
No poo slinging, please. Thoughts on Natasha with Tridents and pins.
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Post by amoebastudios on Mar 2, 2017 17:30:07 GMT -5
Wouldn't trident carnage be better than a RDB griffin? It has more mobility and the small ancile shield is enough to stop a counter attack. I hate fighting against trident carnages. They backpedal out of your effective range very quickly and rushes back in range to fire. They take down Trident Fury pretty consistently.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 17:34:48 GMT -5
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Grimsunder
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Post by Grimsunder on Mar 2, 2017 17:49:35 GMT -5
Like stated above the Carnage cannot escape the gareth and will die quickly. With the RDB Griff you can at least jump away over a building and make it a challenge to kill you imo.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 2, 2017 18:27:08 GMT -5
I'm using a tulu fujin now, apparently it's not optimal, but I actually get better results from it than I did from my old RDB Griffin. I was just about to create a thread on fujin/tulus versus RDB griff since I can't afford the Zues's at the moment. I could do a trident carney but that would mean giving up the fujin Edit: I could go one Zeus one trident carny...thoughts ? |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 18:56:38 GMT -5
Like stated above the Carnage cannot escape the gareth and will die quickly. With the RDB Griff you can at least jump away over a building and make it a challenge to kill you imo. Interesting how nobody agrees with my thread that the Gareth is the best bot in the game. Yet in this thread, part of what good mid range bots are measured by is how easy or less easy it is for Gary to kill them. Hmmm.... |
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 2, 2017 19:03:37 GMT -5
The Gary is too fragile for TT, why waste the au when at minimum, the galahad is the better investment for the long run
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 19:22:35 GMT -5
Currently tridents fury is the best mid range.. able to damage physical shielded bot.. able to damage enemy that hide in cover.. the best map for this bot is shenzen,canyon, and yamantau..but also good enough if you want to use it on the other maps.. Me? I use trebuchet fury to kill any mid range enemy bots.. So your're the guy with the 3 blinking lights sitting on the other side of the map in Yamateau :-) |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 19:35:22 GMT -5
The Gary is too fragile for TT, why waste the au when at minimum, the galahad is the better investment for the long run One only needs a lot of hitpoints when one takes a lot of hits. |
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 2, 2017 19:37:42 GMT -5
Currently tridents fury is the best mid range.. able to damage physical shielded bot.. able to damage enemy that hide in cover.. the best map for this bot is shenzen,canyon, and yamantau..but also good enough if you want to use it on the other maps.. Me? I use trebuchet fury to kill any mid range enemy bots.. So your're the guy with the 3 blinking lights sitting on the other side of the map in Yamateau :-) 3 blinking lights?  (Oh, is that a disco Patton?) |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 19:40:48 GMT -5
So your're the guy with the 3 blinking lights sitting on the other side of the map in Yamateau :-) 3 blinking lights? (Oh, is that a disco Patton?) I always laugh when I see a Gekko Patton lol. They can be pretty annoying though. |
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Grimsunder
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Post by Grimsunder on Mar 2, 2017 20:01:20 GMT -5
Like stated above the Carnage cannot escape the gareth and will die quickly. With the RDB Griff you can at least jump away over a building and make it a challenge to kill you imo. Interesting how nobody agrees with my thread that the Gareth is the best bot in the game. Yet in this thread, part of what good mid range bots are measured by is how easy or less easy it is for Gary to kill them. Hmmm.... Gareth is good but far from the best bot in the game. Sorry. |
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Post by LOLDONGS on Mar 2, 2017 22:00:59 GMT -5
Let's make an damage focused comparison between OP's LV 10 Fury & LV 10 RDB. However I will throw in a LV 10 Tulu doc as a bonus (for the sake of top tier DPS comparison) Assuming everything is at LV10
Fury W/ Tridents - Single Salvo - 50,949
- Theoretical DPM - 203,796
- Reload - 10 seconds
- Firing time - 3.7 seconds
Because the Tridents has a 3.7 second firing period and 10 second reload. 4 salvos can be done in under a minute, which brings us to a theoretical 203,796 damage output in under a minute, assuming no missiles miss.
RDB W/ Pins/Tulus - Single Salvo - 50,808
- Theoretical DPM - 169,357
- Reload - Tulu: 18 seconds, Pin: 12 seconds
- Firing time - 2 seconds
The single salvo is very close but as you can see the reload time is significantly higher than Trident's and somewhat varying which hurts the RDB's potential DPM. The jump ability gives RDB a slight edge over Fury.
RDB is a good and cheap alternative compared to the Fury . But the inconsistent reloading time (Tulu - 18 seconds, Pin - 12 seconds) kills it for me. Although the jump ability is nice and can be extremely useful compared to walking around with the slow and bulky Fury.
RDB is more useful on knifer maps but Fury outclasses and outranges RDB on any other map.
In my opinion, Fury is more stronger than RDB but RDB has better utility.
Sacrifice some DPM in favor for utility or go all out guns blazing with Fury, your choice.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 2, 2017 22:07:07 GMT -5
The Gary is too fragile for TT, why waste the au when at minimum, the galahad is the better investment for the long run One only needs a lot of hitpoints when one takes a lot of hits. Splash damage is almost unavaoidable. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 22:09:39 GMT -5
One only needs a lot of hitpoints when one takes a lot of hits. Splash damage is almost unavaoidable. That's a very inaccurate statement. Point blank splash damage sure. But you don't engage point blank with a DB using a Gary. |
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