WS 2.0 and 6 Pack

I’ve been “planning” to do 6 pack for a long time, but the problem is I always hated domination with slow walking bots. That’s why I always did beacon rush. I’d love a league with an even playing field that had the faster bots and component weapons, I’d be fine with no shocktrains and hydras though.

If anyone wants to organize different forms of 6-Pack, I do believe no one will stand in the way. There are “classic” 6-Packers who would be interested in playing 6-Pack Plus, but please do not try to change the current format. Open new Discord servers and set your own rules.

Just restrict it all to molot/spiral destriers and duke it out as you came into this world.

Ok, ok..Paps says no. He is co-co founder... And he has a talk show...and he thinks I'm Polish when its clearly Austrian Swartznegger.

I am also vehemently opposed, even though all my component gear is leveled to 6. But that's because I chose 6 as my happy place. Plus every time someone on coms says we should allow gusts or storms or whatnot I remind them my 6/6 Spectre and Pursuer are ready and waiting. Seems to cool things off! ?

I do not play 6 pack -YET - but for me the simplicity & purity of the current format makes it more attractive ...

blurring it with "anything goes" would lose its appeal, for me anyway.
It is already a hard choice because of the way matches are hosted so you have really got to want to play this format...

My 2p? Keep it the way it is ... maybe have a list of approved 'classic' gear ...

I don't play 6 Pack, so take my comments with some salt. I have been reading a lot of what has been said of 6 Pack, though and here's what I think:

The original goal for 6 Pack was to provide people a place to play the "old War Robots", or to be more clear, before dash bots. I remember even seeing one of the main requirements was no DIESS equipment. With so many changes coming out for War Robots in general, I think it's best to stick to this rule. Face, it, War Robots, before dash bots, was a COMPLETELY different game. There was only 1 true 1PK build (DB), but that was a high risk high reward build bot that had counters to it.

I really think that you should keep Hydras and old WSP gear. Yes, it'll be harder now to govern that, so maybe you'll need to compile a comprehensive list of what is allowed and hope people stick to that.

My 0.02:

I don't play 6PL right now but hope to again in the future. That said, I remember the times that we actually had good team participation and the games that followed... they were awesome and always great fun.

The only weapon I have ever wondered about was the Tempest, but that was because it WAS pre-component and pre-dash. The availability stayed very limited though, for a long time, so I get why it wasn't allowed.

Otherwise, I only briefly felt Storms or Gusts would be OK, but not now.

Having that bastion of nostalgia, skill, and actual tactical competition is vital for many players now... and it's downright fun. It puts all the power based advantages in a very limited frame and is, in my opinion, the best way to both improve as a player and to ensure that you have good, mostly quality, games.

Now I would not be opposed to an "open" league... or even "semi-open" that either allowed all or some post-dash equipment, that was capped at a specific level... even 9/9.

But, again, 6PL is Pre Dash, and that is what makes it what it is. My Vote: Don't change it.


IMO, YMMV

Why not just level up to L9 or whatever you can be bothered with time and expense wise and forget MK2!!! L6 6 pack is bull「dookie」- robots and weapons have no power even against other L6 - regardless of their ability or type. its boring.

but L12 is just a nightamre to achieve now in terms of time and money/ silver/gold.

JUST DUMP MK2 and then let the league position decide your fate. Hopefully not as bad at MM as fb gameroom.

Promoting this bull「dookie」 L6 SIXPACK league is no good - it just alienates players who already payed for decent gear to L9 or a lot higher etc.
like me.
its no different to the WHALES pay to win ..5 x MK2 L12 meta bots and weapons within a day of release. -NO DIFFERENT.

you gonna reimburse me my cash to start a L6 hangar. no thanks

I think eventually it will make sense to fold some of the weapons into 6 Pack if they are balanced and can add to the meta. Also they could be useful in the future for helping us get out of a particularly bad meta.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Ember get added if it isn't too expensive in the Workshop, but limiting it to level 4 or something.

While I agree with your opinion I have to correct your history.

6 pack began with dash era equipment around a year ago - right after custom games were released.  It was only after 2? I think months that that equipment was banned for being OP.

Aurora Nova's first match in Nov of 2017 against EZ REAPERS had both sides using one component item per side. I believe each side had a L6 scourge. I still have the hangar screenshots (as I do from all of our 6PL matches). That being said, perhaps that was simply a Captain's agreement.

I'd be good with adding only the weaponry cross-related to pre-diess equipment. Shotguns, rockets, missiles, straight up lasers. Absolutely no Shocktrain or rooting weapons. No Scourge or Spark because they are unlike the Zeus in that they fire over too long a period of time. Keep the bots old school.

The cross-related weaponry only adds the same types of old school weaponry just in different sizes. I don't see them destroying the overall effect of the 6 Pack League the way the rest of the component weapons and post-dash bots would do. It could give 6 Packers an effective counter to the Ancilot plagues that sometimes afflict matches as well.

Mine? Nope nope nope! And I say that as a pilot whose component bots and weapons are all at 6 to fit in with my other gear.