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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Jun 17, 2018 15:29:22 GMT -5
I have a slew of Griffins.. most won through wheel spins..
Otherwise only 2 of them bought for SILVER..
I use them mainly for Aphids/Vortex and/or Hydra/Spiral delivery..
I will on occasion still do a Stukka Griff and a RDB.. but I really like them for what I use them for..
Someone tell me WHY the Raven is worth the Component cost vs a Silver Bot..
I hear the youtubers pushing the Raven.. BUT they for the most part ain't paying for it.. in a free environment.. Yeah, I guess..
But dollar for dollar... I see no need to ever pay 80 bucks for a Raven (I believe they are like 79.00 and change) nor am I trying to win one through components.. I would much rather win a Specter or some new weapons i still don't have, then go after a bot that is marginally better then what it is supposed to replace..
So.. i am just looking for opinions as to why own a Raven?
Other than just for ones own collection..
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Post by RightOn on Jun 17, 2018 15:37:15 GMT -5
I'm having a harder time figuring out why it's 170M Ag to mk1... nevermind the $80.
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Post by ˢᵘᵇᶜᵒᵒˡˢᵘᵖᵉʳʰᵉᵃᵗ on Jun 17, 2018 16:12:37 GMT -5
You can jump from in yamu toward center without touching the dirt, from platform to platform db.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Jun 17, 2018 16:26:12 GMT -5
The movement speed is faster and overall mobility looks more versatile, but other than that it's basically the same, it just costs more silver to upgrade.
Like...
A LOT.
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Post by cheap on Jun 17, 2018 20:48:50 GMT -5
go Hover it is awesome
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 17, 2018 21:03:54 GMT -5
You can jump from in yamu toward center without touching the dirt, from platform to platform db. So can the Hover. |
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Post by windcaster on Jun 17, 2018 21:07:05 GMT -5
griffins are old school, silver, all new bots/weapons are comps
Raven is just griffen 2.0.. same fire power.. better jump drive.. not sure about HP, cost arm+leg to upgrade.
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Post by wisdomwolf on Jun 17, 2018 21:26:14 GMT -5
Unless your willing to wait several months and spend 170 million to max out a griffen that has a extra jump don’t even do it. However I wouldn’t really consider using a griffen. I spent $70 on keys (could also buy Royale tokens and get 10000 bot commpoenents and a crap load of gold) and won 5000 spectre components, I got the other 5000 within a month of offers. Why waste so much time money and silver on a bot that’s abilty causes a lot of harm. Not only that but the best build for the raven is scourge spark which cost a head and a torso.
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Post by bronzeknee on Jun 17, 2018 21:58:41 GMT -5
I'm having a harder time figuring out why it's 170M Ag to mk1... nevermind the $80. You're much better off spending 198 million silver to get a Bulwark to level 12 MK1... right? |
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Post by ˢᵘᵇᶜᵒᵒˡˢᵘᵖᵉʳʰᵉᵃᵗ on Jun 17, 2018 23:16:46 GMT -5
You can jump from in yamu toward center without touching the dirt, from platform to platform db. So can the Hover. The hover slowly hovers. You can race both, raven is quicker getting there |
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Post by robocain on Jun 17, 2018 23:27:03 GMT -5
I have a 9/9 Orkan/Gust Raven and it rocks. It is a dedicated Spectre killer and that fact alone makes it worthwhile to get it and give it some upgrade treatment. Also very solid FFA performance.
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 17, 2018 23:56:11 GMT -5
The hover slowly hovers. You can race both, raven is quicker getting there Firstly, that's not what you posted... Secondly, didn't we already do the Hover - Yamantau speed test and it beat Kumiho to center beacon from Dom starting area? |
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Post by snk on Jun 18, 2018 0:08:56 GMT -5
I don’t own one, but I watched youtuber use Raven with double jump can travel 400m+ in 2-3 seconds. Other than that, I think it’s same as Griffin.
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Post by tekkamanblade on Jun 18, 2018 0:10:50 GMT -5
I'm having a harder time figuring out why it's 170M Ag to mk1... nevermind the $80. You're much better off spending 198 million silver to get a Bulwark to level 12 MK1... right? Nah, Bulwark is a sitting duck just like ancilot. I'll save my money on the new coming 8 medium slot dash steal bot. |
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Post by ˢᵘᵇᶜᵒᵒˡˢᵘᵖᵉʳʰᵉᵃᵗ on Jun 18, 2018 0:19:12 GMT -5
The hover slowly hovers. You can race both, raven is quicker getting there Firstly, that's not what you posted... Secondly, didn't we already do the Hover - Yamantau speed test and it beat Kumiho? I said it jumps across, now I'm saying it does it faster than hover. I didn't say anything about a kumi. |
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Post by cheap on Jun 18, 2018 0:35:49 GMT -5
firstly do you wanna take it to lvl12 and beyond? if you do i would listen to what most have posted an be ready for the long haul in leveling it.
when i finaly do get a Raven i will only take to lvl9 really don.t feel i want to take any bot i have 10 or beyond really i play Expert an do well enough unless MM throws me to Masters an Champs as a snack.
results will vary.
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 21, 2018 0:37:41 GMT -5
Firstly, that's not what you posted... Secondly, didn't we already do the Hover - Yamantau speed test and it beat Kumiho? I said it jumps across, now I'm saying it does it faster than hover. I didn't say anything about a kumi. I'm so sorry, I didn't realize you're Autistic. |
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Post by thegoodboyoo on Jul 10, 2018 13:03:05 GMT -5
I have a scourge spark raven with no money used whatsoever, and it honestly is an amazing bot(okay yes i did buy the two sparks) It destroyes an griffin with same health and better speeds, just more silver to upgrade
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Post by windcaster on Jul 10, 2018 13:08:20 GMT -5
I have a scourge spark raven with no money used whatsoever, and it honestly is an amazing bot(okay yes i did buy the two sparks) It destroyes an griffin with same health and better speeds, just more silver to upgrade We'll probably see more since all the bots are expensive to upgrade now.. griffin is still less so though. I deal with ravens the same as griffins, I've only seen a few but the pilots all seemed to have an obsession about using both jumps.. so they go further but once they land they're dead meat. I'd imagine a scourge/spark griffin would also be deadly just less mobile. If I had a raven I'd use 1 jump like a griffin, and the 2nd jump in reserve to flee. But nah.. everyone who's in one seems to be double jump happy. |
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Post by lepetomane on Jul 11, 2018 2:15:17 GMT -5
I have a scourge spark raven with no money used whatsoever, and it honestly is an amazing bot(okay yes i did buy the two sparks) It destroyes an griffin with same health and better speeds, just more silver to upgrade We'll probably see more since all the bots are expensive to upgrade now.. griffin is still less so though. I deal with ravens the same as griffins, I've only seen a few but the pilots all seemed to have an obsession about using both jumps.. so they go further but once they land they're dead meat. I'd imagine a scourge/spark griffin would also be deadly just less mobile. If I had a raven I'd use 1 jump like a griffin, and the 2nd jump in reserve to flee. But nah.. everyone who's in one seems to be double jump happy. I run Raven for some months now and its a keeper in my hangar as brawler but double jump adds the versatility for KoTh, beacon capping & cleaning, long distance assaults and quick displacement during engagements to delay being killed n deal more dmg. Find its trick is less useable to get out of trouble as directional speed needs to be taken into account and the result is less movement, ie not getting out of trouble. So better defense by being aggressive n getting the kill imo. I agree with u that double jump is a trick that has its uses but by no means should be used all the time. I walk around more than jumping as it has good ground speed n makes u less of a target for random hits. No shield/stealth This is an awesome bot that adds a lot to my hangar imo. Running 2 spectres n bulgasari as main brawlers, fury for mid-range support. Currently running it lvl8 w Orkan (12) + Gust (11)  |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Jul 11, 2018 3:08:35 GMT -5
All things (cost) being equal. Against the Griff, the raven is a more mobile weapons platform with a faster cooldown in an increasingly mobile environment. The Hover is more versatile though. If youre not planning on upgrading too high, get both.
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Post by oooohmyyy on Jul 11, 2018 4:03:30 GMT -5
I have a slew of Griffins.. most won through wheel spins.. Otherwise only 2 of them bought for SILVER.. I use them mainly for Aphids/Vortex and/or Hydra/Spiral delivery.. I will on occasion still do a Stukka Griff and a RDB.. but I really like them for what I use them for.. Someone tell me WHY the Raven is worth the Component cost vs a Silver Bot.. I hear the youtubers pushing the Raven.. BUT they for the most part ain't paying for it.. in a free environment.. Yeah, I guess.. But dollar for dollar... I see no need to ever pay 80 bucks for a Raven (I believe they are like 79.00 and change) nor am I trying to win one through components.. I would much rather win a Specter or some new weapons i still don't have, then go after a bot that is marginally better then what it is supposed to replace.. So.. i am just looking for opinions as to why own a Raven? Other than just for ones own collection.. In certain distances raven probably has a higher burst speed than kumiho, and griffin...slow af. |
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Post by robocain on Jul 11, 2018 6:04:10 GMT -5
Raven is a guerrilla powerhouse. A Scourge/Spark Raven may have no shield like Bulg, but it has more firepower. Raven is a blast for aggressive pilots. I'd immediately trade all of my dash bots for more Ravens.
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Post by bravex on Jul 11, 2018 6:22:00 GMT -5
I have several Griffs - DB, RDB, Stuka, Leadhose -and am currently working on doing a Spark/Scourge build.
Sure, I would love to put those on a Raven but I'm not going to go out of my way to make that happen. (In other words I'm not cracking open my wallet.) If the Raven happens - great. Otherwise I'll be quite happy with my bargain basement Griffs.
PS Unless someone comes up with a better name for the Spark/Scourge build I will call that bot Taser Griff.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 11, 2018 6:48:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty close to a Raven in free components. If I get it, I'll cash it in and likely only upgrade it to level 9. Then I'll use it as a fast mobile Spydra platform, replacing my Griffen. I'm actually looking forward to it. My biggest gripe about the Griffen was always how slow it was, and how long it took to recharge the jump. I treat the Raven like a faster Griffen with 2 separate jumps, rather than a double jump. I've played it in Custom a lot and I really like it. Sure, the upgrade times and costs are horrendous, but that's the new reality of this game.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 11, 2018 8:51:15 GMT -5
I like it. Even as an RDB it is fun at level 6. In that configuration it's mostly defensive, but it is still damned useful to have the extra jump. It's a little better stat wise than the Griff, but otherwise it just comes down to the extra jump. It looks good. But yeah, it is entirely in the new economy and takes too damned long.
But... collector.
And... I like the damned bot. What else am I gonna spend Ag on?
Not like I am pushing to 12 or Mk 2 12... I'd rather stay in the middle of Expert and enjoy varied games than to end up in the Hell that is Champ. Sure it's playable up there, but I have become a LOT more casual in when and how I play (just loaded up a Golem and Boa into one hangar and am going to focus on playing them), and Expert is more casual.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by kellhound2002 on Jul 11, 2018 16:16:37 GMT -5
Raven is basically Griff 2.0. If you were a hardcore Griffin user you'll probably like Raven. With all the energy weapons in higher levels I don't see much use for it other than as a good beacon capper. You can jump completely over the ravine in Springfield and cap the center farm side beacon in seconds.
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Jul 12, 2018 15:44:01 GMT -5
My whole point in the original message.. is yes.. Raven is Griffin 2.0 and a better version of it I guess.. but is it 70 dollars worth of better.. or what ever the new price is.. I think 60-bucks.. So is it 60-Bucks better than free??? BC you can easily grind for a Griffin and get it in a day.. If I am to spend money in this game.. and I do.. just not a lot of it.. I would rather invest in weapons.. because at the end of the day, the right weapons on any bot..is a game changer.. And with the scourge, being up in the air longer just gives my Scourge equipped Galahad that much more time to kill you.. and the Galahad has been very awesome for taking down War Robots floaters..  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 12, 2018 15:53:21 GMT -5
My whole point in the original message.. is yes.. Raven is Griffin 2.0 and a better version of it I guess.. but is it 70 dollars worth of better.. or what ever the new price is.. I think 60-bucks.. So is it 60-Bucks better than free??? BC you can easily grind for a Griffin and get it in a day.. If I am to spend money in this game.. and I do.. just not a lot of it.. I would rather invest in weapons.. because at the end of the day, the right weapons on any bot..is a game changer.. And with the scourge, being up in the air longer just gives my Scourge equipped Galahad that much more time to kill you.. and the Galahad has been very awesome for taking down War Robots floaters.. My apologies for not giving you a direct response/answer...
I shall fix that:
I wouldn't have paid 60$+ for it... got it through SC and card flips.
It's not only the 2x jump in one that is awesome, but that you can use each jump as needed. So you can use a Griff type jump to attack... then use # 2 to bail once things get too hot. Also, the time at which you use the 2nd jump if still in the air from the first one determines just how big of a target you make yourself for those "floater" killers. There are ways to make it stay very low to the ground and jump much more laterally than vertically. Also, you can switch directions to jump behind cover if your initial plan gets interrupted by an energy build that can bring you down.
Then, there is the better base speed.
It's worth using if you have most or all of your upgrades other than the Raven done, and you like Griffs, but, it incorporates the new economy inherently so it takes forever and costs a lot. If other upgrades are more pressing, I wouldn't upgrade it. Or, if I didn't own it, I wouldn't buy it with RM, either. It's fun, and balanced well for a component bot... but not a MUST HAVE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 16:00:41 GMT -5
I agree with you, OP. Probably not worth the investment when compared with other component bots and what you can get from the Griffin.
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