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Post by breeman on May 18, 2018 11:48:11 GMT -5
Looking into trying this out, but was wondering if someone could post a "typical" hangar for this league? Just wondering what people run with.
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Post by Gilded Wolf on May 18, 2018 21:56:40 GMT -5
Looking into trying this out, but was wondering if someone could post a "typical" hangar for this league? Just wondering what people run with. A prototypical 6 Pack hangar might be: 1 rog, 1 punisher griffin, 1 ancilot, 1 rdb griff, and 1 DB rhino or griff. You'll also see zeus furies, ancile leos, fujins, carnages, and the occasional stalker, aphid patton, or doc. |
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Post by Gilded Wolf on May 22, 2018 12:38:26 GMT -5
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Post by Gilded Wolf on May 22, 2018 12:44:22 GMT -5
Stew does a great job with commentary here, talking about the basic league rules, and some great strategic gameplay. This is the first time he's added dedicated 6 Pack commentary (his 1st 6 Pack video didn't have it).
I just regret that I didn't play well enough to help WikPack Black more. We gave Hounds of Hades...well...hell!
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 3, 2018 6:26:47 GMT -5
Looking into trying this out, but was wondering if someone could post a "typical" hangar for this league? Just wondering what people run with. A prototypical 6 Pack hangar might be: 1 rog, 1 punisher griffin, 1 ancilot, 1 rdb griff, and 1 DB rhino or griff. You'll also see zeus furies, ancile leos, fujins, carnages, and the occasional stalker, aphid patton, or doc. no jesse, gep, or gareth? I have a ton of those at lvl 1 in my storage from free chests. Or what about boa? Vityaz? Golem? Just curious why or why not, but gareth and jesse seem like they’d fit in |
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Post by Destroyer on Jun 3, 2018 13:02:31 GMT -5
A prototypical 6 Pack hangar might be: 1 rog, 1 punisher griffin, 1 ancilot, 1 rdb griff, and 1 DB rhino or griff. You'll also see zeus furies, ancile leos, fujins, carnages, and the occasional stalker, aphid patton, or doc. no jesse, gep, or gareth? I have a ton of those at lvl 1 in my storage from free chests. Or what about boa? Vityaz? Golem? Just curious why or why not, but gareth and jesse seem like they’d fit in Think of War Robots before the dashes came out. Mediums and heavies rule. Griff is the best bang for your buck, then the carnage, rhino, then the Galahad and Rog and Lance |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 4:48:17 GMT -5
no jesse, gep, or gareth? I have a ton of those at lvl 1 in my storage from free chests. Or what about boa? Vityaz? Golem? Just curious why or why not, but gareth and jesse seem like they’d fit in Think of War Robots before the dashes came out. Mediums and heavies rule. Griff is the best bang for your buck, then the carnage, rhino, then the Galahad and Rog and Lance before the dash bots came out, I was doing a serious number on ancilots and griffins with my tiny gareth. I was on my third ancilot that I killed in one game, from start to finish with no outside help. The only reason third guy got me was because he was an ineffective mixed build: Orkan/Taran ancilot, and I was low on health. With jesse and aphids I just pounded out a lot of kills but that requires good help or friendlies nearby. Snow map was my fav for aphids and those were the days. Do not forget that speed to dictate the encounter is a valid wartime success strategy. |
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Post by Destroyer on Jun 4, 2018 9:24:10 GMT -5
Think of War Robots before the dashes came out. Mediums and heavies rule. Griff is the best bang for your buck, then the carnage, rhino, then the Galahad and Rog and Lance before the dash bots came out, I was doing a serious number on ancilots and griffins with my tiny gareth. I was on my third ancilot that I killed in one game, from start to finish with no outside help. The only reason third guy got me was because he was an ineffective mixed build: Orkan/Taran ancilot, and I was low on health. With jesse and aphids I just pounded out a lot of kills but that requires good help or friendlies nearby. Snow map was my fav for aphids and those were the days. Do not forget that speed to dictate the encounter is a valid wartime success strategy. Yup, I remember running into Ancilot's bubble too. If you were good with light bots you will enjoy current 6/6 games. We do run festival of lights fights where the Gareth becomes OP. The only difference from pre-dash era is both sides are on comms so the tactics are more focused. There may be 2 or 3 griffs or rogs comming at you if you are caught without a team mate. Even with your speed it's hard to evade that much fire power. In the last festival of lights I was successful running backwards from orkans with my Gareth. I kept 310 m running backwards from another Gareth chasing me. I actually got so many Gareths from the bronze chest that I can run 5 Gareths for the next festival of lights. I miss the good old days. |
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Post by rags on Jun 4, 2018 9:31:11 GMT -5
Hey fellas how do I join for iOS? Thanks in advance
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Post by Destroyer on Jun 4, 2018 9:45:59 GMT -5
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Post by rags on Jun 4, 2018 9:49:04 GMT -5
Thanks... guess it’s time to get back on discord... deleted it when I deleted the game. |
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Post by frunobulax on Jun 4, 2018 17:07:04 GMT -5
3 things.
(a) Could we get this introductory thread sticky?
(b) I'm just not big on leagues, single elimination. Is there a plan to somehow expand the 6-pack to a "free play" environment, where 6-pack players meet and squad freely?
(c) Would you consider a level bonus to medium and light robots? I'd think the league would still be fair but more fun if you'd allow 7/7 medium robots and 8/8 light robots. It would also make it much easier for me to sport a 6-pack hangar, as I would like to run mostly mediums and lights (the heavy ones I have in my main account), and even on my smurf(s) they are beyond level 6.
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Post by Gilded Wolf on Jun 4, 2018 19:28:28 GMT -5
3 things. (a) Could we get this introductory thread sticky? (b) I'm just not big on leagues, single elimination. Is there a plan to somehow expand the 6-pack to a "free play" environment, where 6-pack players meet and squad freely? (c) Would you consider a level bonus to medium and light robots? I'd think the league would still be fair but more fun if you'd allow 7/7 medium robots and 8/8 light robots. It would also make it much easier for me to sport a 6-pack hangar, as I would like to run mostly mediums and lights (the heavy ones I have in my main account), and even on my smurf(s) they are beyond level 6. (a) It is stickied. (b) Aside from the main league itself there are now multiple ways to join organized casual play events that we call Fight Nights. iOS has been at it in their Fight Club discord server for a while now so I copied them because it's an awesome idea. Surely you've seen the posts here on this forum. (c) As much as I don't want to make it harder for you personally to join 6 Pack activities, the answer is no and let me explain why. One of the most important aspects of 6 Pack League is ease of accessibility...in other words, the lowest bar for entry possible. Level 6 allows for this more easily across the board. As much as you like lights and mediums, it's fair to say that heavies, and the right strategic application of them, have been key to most competitive league play. The reason is obvious: all bots are slower, which hits lights and mediums much harder than heavies. There are exceptions of course. Some mediums are so strong that they represent sound strategic choices: rogs, carnages, docs, etc. So while I'm sorry this makes it harder for you personally, I hope you understand why it's much easier for everyone else. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 22:33:13 GMT -5
before the dash bots came out, I was doing a serious number on ancilots and griffins with my tiny gareth. I was on my third ancilot that I killed in one game, from start to finish with no outside help. The only reason third guy got me was because he was an ineffective mixed build: Orkan/Taran ancilot, and I was low on health. With jesse and aphids I just pounded out a lot of kills but that requires good help or friendlies nearby. Snow map was my fav for aphids and those were the days. Do not forget that speed to dictate the encounter is a valid wartime success strategy. Yup, I remember running into Ancilot's bubble too. If you were good with light bots you will enjoy current 6/6 games. We do run festival of lights fights where the Gareth becomes OP. The only difference from pre-dash era is both sides are on comms so the tactics are more focused. There may be 2 or 3 griffs or rogs comming at you if you are caught without a team mate. Even with your speed it's hard to evade that much fire power. In the last festival of lights I was successful running backwards from orkans with my Gareth. I kept 310 m running backwards from another Gareth chasing me. I actually got so many Gareths from the bronze chest that I can run 5 Gareths for the next festival of lights. I miss the good old days. my real issue is that I do not like meta setups... I like variety. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 22:36:17 GMT -5
3 things. (a) Could we get this introductory thread sticky? (b) I'm just not big on leagues, single elimination. Is there a plan to somehow expand the 6-pack to a "free play" environment, where 6-pack players meet and squad freely? (c) Would you consider a level bonus to medium and light robots? I'd think the league would still be fair but more fun if you'd allow 7/7 medium robots and 8/8 light robots. It would also make it much easier for me to sport a 6-pack hangar, as I would like to run mostly mediums and lights (the heavy ones I have in my main account), and even on my smurf(s) they are beyond level 6. (a) It is stickied. (b) Aside from the main league itself there are now multiple ways to join organized casual play events that we call Fight Nights. iOS has been at it in their Fight Club discord server for a while now so I copied them because it's an awesome idea. Surely you've seen the posts here on this forum. (c) As much as I don't want to make it harder for you personally to join 6 Pack activities, the answer is no and let me explain why. One of the most important aspects of 6 Pack League is ease of accessibility...in other words, the lowest bar for entry possible. Level 6 allows for this more easily across the board. As much as you like lights and mediums, it's fair to say that heavies, and the right strategic application of them, have been key to most competitive league play. The reason is obvious: all bots are slower, which hits lights and mediums much harder than heavies. There are exceptions of course. Some mediums are so strong that they represent sound strategic choices: rogs, carnages, docs, etc. So while I'm sorry this makes it harder for you personally, I hope you understand why it's much easier for everyone else. I’m assuming you went over and over with this number in question, but assuming 6/6 is popular enough, you should consider a 3/3 (and 9/9) league if you’re gonna keep quoting ease of access. 6/6 is not as easy as 3/3 therefore you’re actually misrepresenting that aspect. Aka I call ? |
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Post by moody on Jun 4, 2018 22:41:02 GMT -5
(a) It is stickied. (b) Aside from the main league itself there are now multiple ways to join organized casual play events that we call Fight Nights. iOS has been at it in their Fight Club discord server for a while now so I copied them because it's an awesome idea. Surely you've seen the posts here on this forum. (c) As much as I don't want to make it harder for you personally to join 6 Pack activities, the answer is no and let me explain why. One of the most important aspects of 6 Pack League is ease of accessibility...in other words, the lowest bar for entry possible. Level 6 allows for this more easily across the board. As much as you like lights and mediums, it's fair to say that heavies, and the right strategic application of them, have been key to most competitive league play. The reason is obvious: all bots are slower, which hits lights and mediums much harder than heavies. There are exceptions of course. Some mediums are so strong that they represent sound strategic choices: rogs, carnages, docs, etc. So while I'm sorry this makes it harder for you personally, I hope you understand why it's much easier for everyone else. I’m assuming you went over and over with this number in question, but assuming 6/6 is popular enough, you should consider a 3/3 league if you’re gonna keep quoting ease of access. 6/6 is not as easy as 3/3 therefore you’re actually misrepresenting that aspect. Aka ? Level 6 is the lowest level that stock gear comes in. you can't downgrade a griffin to 3. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 22:44:02 GMT -5
I’m assuming you went over and over with this number in question, but assuming 6/6 is popular enough, you should consider a 3/3 league if you’re gonna keep quoting ease of access. 6/6 is not as easy as 3/3 therefore you’re actually misrepresenting that aspect. Aka ? Level 6 is the lowest level that stock gear comes in. you can't downgrade a griffin to 3. so you’re saying my orkan and cossack didn’t start at 1? I must be out of mind or I can call ? again ? |
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Post by moody on Jun 4, 2018 23:16:34 GMT -5
Level 6 is the lowest level that stock gear comes in. you can't downgrade a griffin to 3. so you’re saying my orkan and cossack didn’t start at 1? I must be out of mind or I can call ? again ? No, sorry, mis-wrote, but you know what I mean. There is stock gear that comes at level 6, other stock gear that comes at level 5. can't really downgrade them. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 23:34:19 GMT -5
so you’re saying my orkan and cossack didn’t start at 1? I must be out of mind or I can call ? again ? No, sorry, mis-wrote, but you know what I mean. There is stock gear that comes at level 6, other stock gear that comes at level 5. can't really downgrade them. literally the only reason I’m calling anyone out on this detail is because of the new economic changes. The difference between six and one will become more pronounced and become a bigger hinderance to admission to 6-pack. You need to go beyond lightly considering a 3/3 once it takes 50 mil and one month to upgrade one bot to 6, not including weapons. I hope you understand that the person who first got quoted was right, even though they didn’t properly explain why. |
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Post by Gilded Wolf on Jun 4, 2018 23:42:05 GMT -5
(a) It is stickied. (b) Aside from the main league itself there are now multiple ways to join organized casual play events that we call Fight Nights. iOS has been at it in their Fight Club discord server for a while now so I copied them because it's an awesome idea. Surely you've seen the posts here on this forum. (c) As much as I don't want to make it harder for you personally to join 6 Pack activities, the answer is no and let me explain why. One of the most important aspects of 6 Pack League is ease of accessibility...in other words, the lowest bar for entry possible. Level 6 allows for this more easily across the board. As much as you like lights and mediums, it's fair to say that heavies, and the right strategic application of them, have been key to most competitive league play. The reason is obvious: all bots are slower, which hits lights and mediums much harder than heavies. There are exceptions of course. Some mediums are so strong that they represent sound strategic choices: rogs, carnages, docs, etc. So while I'm sorry this makes it harder for you personally, I hope you understand why it's much easier for everyone else. I’m assuming you went over and over with this number in question, but assuming 6/6 is popular enough, you should consider a 3/3 (and 9/9) league if you’re gonna keep quoting ease of access. 6/6 is not as easy as 3/3 therefore you’re actually misrepresenting that aspect. Aka I call ? The only problem with that is that 3/3 and 9/9 are not in fact easier than 6/6. Why? Because 3/3 eliminates a certain category of gear that doesn't come stock that low a level. And 9/9 is much more expensive for obvious reasons. I didn't come up with the number, the founder of 6 Pack did because it's the level that makes the most sense. So call it what you want but I'm actually not misrepresenting anything. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 4, 2018 23:53:08 GMT -5
I’m assuming you went over and over with this number in question, but assuming 6/6 is popular enough, you should consider a 3/3 (and 9/9) league if you’re gonna keep quoting ease of access. 6/6 is not as easy as 3/3 therefore you’re actually misrepresenting that aspect. Aka I call ? The only problem with that is that 3/3 and 9/9 are not in fact easier than 6/6. Why? Because 3/3 eliminates a certain category of gear that doesn't come stock that low a level. And 9/9 is much more expensive for obvious reasons. I didn't come up with the number, the founder of 6 Pack did because it's the level that makes the most sense. So call it what you want but I'm actually not misrepresenting anything. sounds like I hurt your feelings. ? that wasn’t my intention but then again I don’t decide your feelings for you. So let’s go back over it so you understand from my point of view: 1. 6/6 is indeed harder to get into than 3/3, which was against what you quoted as reason for building 6-pack. 1a. You passed that detail over so we can just agree I’m right that it is marginally more difficult. 2. New economy changes will make 6-pack much harder, and for whatever reason you are also glossing this over. 3. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with removing certain gear from rotation. Variety is the spice of life. Just because what you have going now makes the most sense, doesn’t mean it always will. And not only that, I’m not in six pack league because it isn’t feasibly attainable for me. So therefore I have a right to feel lied to by you (et al) about it being easily attainable. Instead of complaining, I’m just telling you what the future holds. Take it or leave it. |
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Post by moody on Jun 5, 2018 0:11:42 GMT -5
The only problem with that is that 3/3 and 9/9 are not in fact easier than 6/6. Why? Because 3/3 eliminates a certain category of gear that doesn't come stock that low a level. And 9/9 is much more expensive for obvious reasons. I didn't come up with the number, the founder of 6 Pack did because it's the level that makes the most sense. So call it what you want but I'm actually not misrepresenting anything. sounds like I hurt your feelings. ? that wasn’t my intention but then again I don’t decide your feelings for you. So let’s go back over it so you understand from my point of view: 1. 6/6 is indeed harder to get into than 3/3, which was against what you quoted as reason for building 6-pack. 1a. You passed that detail over so we can just agree I’m right that it is marginally more difficult. 2. New economy changes will make 6-pack much harder, and for whatever reason you are also glossing this over. 3. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with removing certain gear from rotation. Variety is the spice of life. Just because what you have going now makes the most sense, doesn’t mean it always will. And not only that, I’m not in six pack league because it isn’t feasibly attainable for me. So therefore I have a right to feel lied to by you (et al) about it being easily attainable. Instead of complaining, I’m just telling you what the future holds. Take it or leave it. 6 pack is genuinely available to anyone who tries. having an already existing account with 5 slots is of course easier, but I have taken so far 5 accounts, from scratch, to 6/6 level since October last year (and no, that has not been a full time job). As to the new economy. even assuming that upgrade times will significantly increase - they will be significant increases on the low end of the scale. e.g. - 8 hours increasing to 20, 12 hours increasing to 30. (and that is at the high end of expectation I think). It is still in the weeks, not months of upgrades needed - less if you get things already at level 5 and 6. As to your last point, that is what things like 'experimental 6 pack' nights, medium bot nights, light bot nights, bullets only etc. are for. Why don't you join in and try it (and have fun) rather than being overly negative and not actually doing anything about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 0:29:07 GMT -5
3/3 wouldn't work. No orkans, tulus, griffs, leos, Tasha's. Everyone would just run puns or plasma, and splash would be eliminated. 9/9 may as well be playing live server. 6/6 is just fine.
That said, if you can build a better mousetrap, then do it! If it's fun, people will play. But I think time has proven 6/6 is in the Goldilocks zone.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 5, 2018 7:26:45 GMT -5
sounds like I hurt your feelings. ? that wasn’t my intention but then again I don’t decide your feelings for you. So let’s go back over it so you understand from my point of view: 1. 6/6 is indeed harder to get into than 3/3, which was against what you quoted as reason for building 6-pack. 1a. You passed that detail over so we can just agree I’m right that it is marginally more difficult. 2. New economy changes will make 6-pack much harder, and for whatever reason you are also glossing this over. 3. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with removing certain gear from rotation. Variety is the spice of life. Just because what you have going now makes the most sense, doesn’t mean it always will. And not only that, I’m not in six pack league because it isn’t feasibly attainable for me. So therefore I have a right to feel lied to by you (et al) about it being easily attainable. Instead of complaining, I’m just telling you what the future holds. Take it or leave it. 6 pack is genuinely available to anyone who tries. having an already existing account with 5 slots is of course easier, but I have taken so far 5 accounts, from scratch, to 6/6 level since October last year (and no, that has not been a full time job). As to the new economy. even assuming that upgrade times will significantly increase - they will be significant increases on the low end of the scale. e.g. - 8 hours increasing to 20, 12 hours increasing to 30. (and that is at the high end of expectation I think). It is still in the weeks, not months of upgrades needed - less if you get things already at level 5 and 6. As to your last point, that is what things like 'experimental 6 pack' nights, medium bot nights, light bot nights, bullets only etc. are for. Why don't you join in and try it (and have fun) rather than being overly negative and not actually doing anything about it. by looking at exodus and spark upgrade times we can get a rough estimate of 4 days per item taken to 6, a five slot hangar with a total of 20 weapons would be 25 items taking on average four days a piece once the new economy hits.. that’s an easy 100 days or nearly 1/3 of a year assuming you already know what you want. That is in the months and will be the economy your newest players will be facing within a few months when pixo changes it over. It’s just a thought to consider moody, and experimental night does sound fun. I’ll look and see what I have that follows guidelines for six pack. |
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Post by Vindictive999 on Jun 5, 2018 8:41:06 GMT -5
I bet your a right laugh at parties...
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Post by Paps on Jun 5, 2018 8:41:07 GMT -5
I don't think you'd be a good fit anyways, TooSchoolForCool. Feel free to steer clear. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 5, 2018 8:56:18 GMT -5
I don't think you'd be a good fit anyways, TooSchoolForCool. Feel free to steer clear. I didn’t say spark or exodus will be in there, but do you really think punishers and thunders won’t follow the same upgrade times as these once the new economy hits? I know they will, so I’ll still stand by about 3 months to get a six pack hangar assuming you know what you want and after the new economy arrives. Oh and I almost forgot about the time it takes to compensate for the silver increase. ? 3/3 is looking smarter to me everyday |
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Post by Vindictive999 on Jun 5, 2018 9:08:33 GMT -5
I don't think you'd be a good fit anyways, TooSchoolForCool . Feel free to steer clear. I didn’t say spark or exodus will be in there, but do you really think punishers and thunders won’t follow the same upgrade times as these once the new economy hits? I know they will, so I’ll still stand by about 3 months to get a six pack hangar assuming you know what you want and after the new economy arrives. Oh and I almost forgot about the time it takes to compensate for the silver increase. ? 3/3 is looking smarter to me everyday Awesome, go set up a league and get everyone to join! |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 5, 2018 12:05:48 GMT -5
I didn’t say spark or exodus will be in there, but do you really think punishers and thunders won’t follow the same upgrade times as these once the new economy hits? I know they will, so I’ll still stand by about 3 months to get a six pack hangar assuming you know what you want and after the new economy arrives. Oh and I almost forgot about the time it takes to compensate for the silver increase. ? 3/3 is looking smarter to me everyday Awesome, go set up a league and get everyone to join! when I find time between two full time jobs, pissing blood and going to doctors, and taking care of my dad, I surely will. Don’t hold your breath though ? |
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Post by Gilded Wolf on Jun 5, 2018 14:26:40 GMT -5
The only problem with that is that 3/3 and 9/9 are not in fact easier than 6/6. Why? Because 3/3 eliminates a certain category of gear that doesn't come stock that low a level. And 9/9 is much more expensive for obvious reasons. I didn't come up with the number, the founder of 6 Pack did because it's the level that makes the most sense. So call it what you want but I'm actually not misrepresenting anything. sounds like I hurt your feelings. ? that wasn’t my intention but then again I don’t decide your feelings for you. So let’s go back over it so you understand from my point of view: 1. 6/6 is indeed harder to get into than 3/3, which was against what you quoted as reason for building 6-pack. 1a. You passed that detail over so we can just agree I’m right that it is marginally more difficult. 2. New economy changes will make 6-pack much harder, and for whatever reason you are also glossing this over. 3. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with removing certain gear from rotation. Variety is the spice of life. Just because what you have going now makes the most sense, doesn’t mean it always will. And not only that, I’m not in six pack league because it isn’t feasibly attainable for me. So therefore I have a right to feel lied to by you (et al) about it being easily attainable. Instead of complaining, I’m just telling you what the future holds. Take it or leave it. Let me get this straight. You have a right to feel lied to by me because you believe it's not attainable for you? Look I'm sorry if you feel lied to but that wasn't what I was doing. The vast majority of the community here that plays 6 Pack understands that what you claim isn't the case. You don't play 6 Pack, and have not tried to build a legal hangar, yet you presume to dictate to us how long it would take to do so? That doesn't seem a bit presumptuous? And to respond to the 3/3 business: variety is the spice of life, totally agreed. The point we are making is that 3/3 isn't 'rotating' gear, it's eliminating a good deal of viable, fun, core elements from what makes 6 Pack worthwhile. Think of it as more about logistics. 3/3 creates LESS variety, not more. |
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