TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong
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Post by TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong on Apr 14, 2018 3:40:41 GMT -5
Nova Rising, the bar fight crest is fantastic. Nice job! I love how you turned it into an event. Maybe we should turn this into pay per view since we are streaming it, hehe |
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TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong
Destrier
Having a beer and killing reds
Posts: 108
Karma: 99
Pilot name: TalkCockSingSong
Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising [NovR]
League: Champion
Server Region: Asia
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Post by TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong on Apr 14, 2018 3:41:46 GMT -5
 ?? This is what it is all about. Great matches, more fun than I have had in a long time from practicing in house to joining in squads with others from the 6 pack League. Great group of players from all over, here to have fun, show off their skills, and to use tactics to overcome. That is 6 pack. It is a Blast! And did I say FUN! Edit: GO Drunkards! Sorry Bartenders, not really ? Who do the Bartenders serve? Exactly |
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Post by Gilded Wolf on Apr 14, 2018 7:53:45 GMT -5
Hi, I joined the discord group and have been reading through the channels but I’m unclear if it’s only for established teams in a tournament. I’m not able to commit to a month long schedule right now but I’d like to try it out in random games with whoever. Is there such a place where I can see when people are gathering and post my ID to be included in spontaneous battles? Preferably without comms because of my situation but I could play in the bathroom I guess  What you describe is something that is going to be more organized going forward. Soon we're going to add something that will make this more accessible. You should still post your info in the appropriate channels and post in the general chat for your platform when you're looking for matches. Be vocal and even if it's not right away, you will get responses. |
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Post by Domino on Apr 14, 2018 9:03:33 GMT -5
Hi, I joined the discord group and have been reading through the channels but I’m unclear if it’s only for established teams in a tournament. I’m not able to commit to a month long schedule right now but I’d like to try it out in random games with whoever. Is there such a place where I can see when people are gathering and post my ID to be included in spontaneous battles? Preferably without comms because of my situation but I could play in the bathroom I guess Yes. I'm in a similar situation. Is there perhaps a weekend where everyone on the channel just plays? I get the tournament style play, which takes commitment and scheduling. What about random day for the hell of it? |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 14, 2018 9:17:58 GMT -5
Hi, I joined the discord group and have been reading through the channels but I’m unclear if it’s only for established teams in a tournament. I’m not able to commit to a month long schedule right now but I’d like to try it out in random games with whoever. Is there such a place where I can see when people are gathering and post my ID to be included in spontaneous battles? Preferably without comms because of my situation but I could play in the bathroom I guess This is the discord with more casual play. I think you can play without comms but most of it is with comms. There’s also a more frequent LINE chat for iOS |
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 14, 2018 10:13:08 GMT -5
Hi, I joined the discord group and have been reading through the channels but I’m unclear if it’s only for established teams in a tournament. I’m not able to commit to a month long schedule right now but I’d like to try it out in random games with whoever. Is there such a place where I can see when people are gathering and post my ID to be included in spontaneous battles? Preferably without comms because of my situation but I could play in the bathroom I guess Yes. I'm in a similar situation. Is there perhaps a weekend where everyone on the channel just plays? I get the tournament style play, which takes commitment and scheduling. What about random day for the hell of it? Yes, there are pick up matches all the time. A lot of people try to advertise them here: discord.gg/gp9Ash2Add me on Facebook and I can try to invite you to games too: www.facebook.com/bronze.kneeI think if we had a forum we could hammer out a regular pick up match schedule. Any chance we could get a 6 pack forum Deadeye GuitarGuy SuperHero ? |
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 14, 2018 10:59:40 GMT -5
This thread needs videos in it badly...
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TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong
Destrier
Having a beer and killing reds
Posts: 108
Karma: 99
Pilot name: TalkCockSingSong
Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising [NovR]
League: Champion
Server Region: Asia
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Post by TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong on Apr 14, 2018 11:33:47 GMT -5
This thread needs videos in it badly... Of all the games, you have to pick the one that you blasted me from behind  bronzeknee Anyway, here's the full game from my POV: |
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 14, 2018 12:14:19 GMT -5
This thread needs videos in it badly... Of all the games, you have to pick the one that you blasted me from behind bronzeknee Anyway, here's the full game from my POV: I got you from the behind, and then the front! =) Honestly, it was a very uneventful game after that. I spent the rest of the time (until 3 minutes were left when I just gave up going to for beacons) being the only player on our team trying to recapture the center beacon and defend the dam beacon because everyone else just sat in the city pushing your spawn beacon which isn't a sound strategy in Domination. And even while pushing your spawn, no one suppressed the Trebuchet Fury (Hopeless Potato) so I just kept taking heat from him trying to cross the riverbed. |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Apr 14, 2018 12:45:58 GMT -5
Yes. I'm in a similar situation. Is there perhaps a weekend where everyone on the channel just plays? I get the tournament style play, which takes commitment and scheduling. What about random day for the hell of it? Yes, there are pick up matches all the time. A lot of people try to advertise them here: discord.gg/gp9Ash2Add me on Facebook and I can try to invite you to games too: www.facebook.com/bronze.kneeI think if we had a forum we could hammer out a regular pick up match schedule. Any chance we could get a 6 pack forum Deadeye GuitarGuy SuperHero ? Personally, I think an entire Forum dedicated to 6/6 would be a bit excessive. I just dont think there is the interest there to sustain it. I am all about 6 pack stuff and feel having a dedicated section here is plenty. Further, Another forum means more moderators and I know I personally do not have the time to do any more then I do here. Maybe thats your calling Bronzeknee.. Starting another forum you could mod. I know your passionate about it, could be fun for ya.. |
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Post by Destroyer on Apr 14, 2018 13:49:18 GMT -5
If anyone is interested, this is my Facebook profile www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100018888122660We play almost nightly 9-11 New York time, iOS, we use Line for comm You can friend me and I can try to get you in Be sure to have your 6/6 hangar ready |
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Post by Domino on Apr 14, 2018 13:50:37 GMT -5
Just a sub section (like we have for tips and advice, Rants etc) off here would suffice. Unless we're talking about the same thing. I think forum I think whole new site
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 14, 2018 14:19:12 GMT -5
Personally, I think an entire Forum dedicated to 6/6 would be a bit excessive. I just dont think there is the interest there to sustain it. I am all about 6 pack stuff and feel having a dedicated section here is plenty. Further, Another forum means more moderators and I know I personally do not have the time to do any more then I do here. Maybe thats your calling Bronzeknee.. Starting another forum you could mod. I know your passionate about it, could be fun for ya.. I think we have enough interest for a subforum on this forum, I mean we have one for "Leagues". And if it doesn't work out, you could shut it down. I'd moderate it if necessary. I was going to write some 6 pack articles and create some videos, they could go there too along with a pickup schedule. And what do you mean by the dedicated section here? Do you mean just this thread or did I miss something? 6 pack is more than just running the old equipment (as you know) it is about the tournament format and working together with teammates which is the best of War Robots, because War Robot is a team game and when you have two teams working together on comms, it is quite an experience, especially when you can work together without getting Shocktrained. |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Apr 14, 2018 14:46:49 GMT -5
Personally, I think an entire Forum dedicated to 6/6 would be a bit excessive. I just dont think there is the interest there to sustain it. I am all about 6 pack stuff and feel having a dedicated section here is plenty. Further, Another forum means more moderators and I know I personally do not have the time to do any more then I do here. Maybe thats your calling Bronzeknee.. Starting another forum you could mod. I know your passionate about it, could be fun for ya.. I think we have enough interest for a subforum on this forum, I mean we have one for "Leagues". And if it doesn't work out, you could shut it down. I'd moderate it if necessary. I was going to write some 6 pack articles and create some videos, they could go there too along with a pickup schedule. And what do you mean by the dedicated section here? Do you mean just this thread or did I miss something? 6 pack is more than just running the old equipment (as you know) it is about the tournament format and working together with teammates which is the best of War Robots, because War Robot is a team game and when you have two teams working together on comms, it is quite an experience, especially when you can work together without getting Shocktrained. I phrased that wrong. I meant a dedicated thread here would suffice. There is not one currently and you dont need to convince me how cool 6/6 is. I play it every wednesday with my guys on iOS. We played a squad of WIKI just this past week and had a blast. really close games and your correct, no shocktrains makes it much more pleasant and I am always down for a chance to run my Rogs, I keep 2 in for 6 pack. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 14, 2018 15:40:20 GMT -5
That last line wasn't intended toward you (as you know). I know you play 6 pack, I follow the match results on Discord, and I saw your name, congrats on the 3-2 victory by the way. My point is that if any type of War Robots tournament gained some traction I'd think it would deserve a separate subforum because for people that didn't know, it was about more than running old equipment, it was a tournament.
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TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong
Destrier
Having a beer and killing reds
Posts: 108
Karma: 99
Pilot name: TalkCockSingSong
Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising [NovR]
League: Champion
Server Region: Asia
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Post by TalkCocSingSongBlurLikeSotong on Apr 15, 2018 0:50:40 GMT -5
Of all the games, you have to pick the one that you blasted me from behind bronzeknee Anyway, here's the full game from my POV: I got you from the behind, and then the front! =) Honestly, it was a very uneventful game after that. I spent the rest of the time (until 3 minutes were left when I just gave up going to for beacons) being the only player on our team trying to recapture the center beacon and defend the dam beacon because everyone else just sat in the city pushing your spawn beacon which isn't a sound strategy in Domination. And even while pushing your spawn, no one suppressed the Trebuchet Fury (Hopeless Potato) so I just kept taking heat from him trying to cross the riverbed. Yeah, I noticed that too. Your team didn't capitalise the 3-2 beacon advantage and left center beacon undefended. I suspect it's due to Potato's Treb Fury tagging anyone who tried to cross the river bed. Your team kept sending Ancilot after Ancilot to try to take our home spawn. This would be difficult although I did sacrifice a few bots to defend home. After the waves of Ancilots, your team then stayed at MR and did not advance further, thus giving us a chance to flank and took center and briefly the corner beacon. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 15, 2018 10:20:39 GMT -5
IMO it would be more interesting if you ran a blacklist of OP weapons/bots each season much like Pokemon. There are many component items I would love to run, aren't OP and certainly not as good as say orkans and tarrans. For those of us with maxed hangars it's more of a reason to build another hangar (which isn't cheap) and it also contributes to the game as a definitive standard to pix of how players rate the performance of items. Considering another set of orkans would be 18k Au for 5 griffs allowing component items isn't adding exclusivity any more than the current system and if the focus is on skill then the increased opportunity for loadouts surely gives more room to show this. I'd love to do this but not if it just means buying another hangar of griffs and ancilots. I agree but some of the people aren’t budging on “no components” I have given a lot of thought on ideas to bring in certain component weapons, but I don't think there is any real need to. What we have now suffices completely and creates a balanced and varied meta. Is it perfect? No. But there is a huge variety of viable robots and weapons, well over twice the number of choices than are currently viable at the top of the regular game. In the end, these kinds of cursory comments by someone who hasn't played or even understands 6 Pack aren't worth much consideration. |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 15, 2018 12:35:38 GMT -5
I agree but some of the people aren’t budging on “no components” I have given a lot of thought on ideas to bring in certain component weapons, but I don't think there is any real need to. What we have now suffices completely and creates a balanced and varied meta. Is it perfect? No. But there is a huge variety of viable robots and weapons, well over twice the number of choices than are currently viable at the top of the regular game. In the end, these kinds of cursory comments by someone who hasn't played or even understands 6 Pack aren't worth much consideration. Yeah there is now but are people going to feel the same a year or two from now? They will only release component bots or weapons now, there would be no new weapons or bots in 6 pack. There’s a reason why developers do more weapons,bots,maps, so that people don’t get bored. I think that you need new weapons and bots not as OP or the frequency Pixonic releases it but you will need something new when you’re just playing the same game without any changes, with the except to some maps they might add. How do you know I haven’t played a lot of 6 pack lol |
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Post by Domino on Apr 15, 2018 12:43:30 GMT -5
I have given a lot of thought on ideas to bring in certain component weapons, but I don't think there is any real need to. What we have now suffices completely and creates a balanced and varied meta. Is it perfect? No. But there is a huge variety of viable robots and weapons, well over twice the number of choices than are currently viable at the top of the regular game. In the end, these kinds of cursory comments by someone who hasn't played or even understands 6 Pack aren't worth much consideration. Yeah there is now but are people going to feel the same a year or two from now? They will only release component bots or weapons now, there would be no new weapons or bots in 6 pack. There’s a reason why developers do more weapons,bots,maps, so that people don’t get bored. I think that you need new weapons and bots not as OP or the frequency Pixonic releases it but you will need something new when you’re just playing the same game without any changes, with the except to some maps they might add. How do you know I haven’t played a lot of 6 pack lol It's funny. Weapons and bots get boring but tactics and skill don't. That's one of the fundamental issues with War Robots. They feel they need all this fluff when really the majority of players only want the latter |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 15, 2018 12:49:00 GMT -5
Yeah there is now but are people going to feel the same a year or two from now? They will only release component bots or weapons now, there would be no new weapons or bots in 6 pack. There’s a reason why developers do more weapons,bots,maps, so that people don’t get bored. I think that you need new weapons and bots not as OP or the frequency Pixonic releases it but you will need something new when you’re just playing the same game without any changes, with the except to some maps they might add. How do you know I haven’t played a lot of 6 pack lol It's funny. Weapons and bots get boring but tactics and skill don't. That's one of the fundamental issues with War Robots. They feel they need all this fluff when really the majority of players only want the latter There's only so much you can do with the same weapons and bots in 6 pack. Even if you suck at games you can figure out what counters what after a year of playing, only the execution matters now that you have the knowledge. Introduce new weapons and bots, and then more skillful ways to use bots or weapons will come. |
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Post by Domino on Apr 15, 2018 12:52:41 GMT -5
It's funny. Weapons and bots get boring but tactics and skill don't. That's one of the fundamental issues with War Robots. They feel they need all this fluff when really the majority of players only want the latter There's only so much you can do with the same weapons and bots in 6 pack. Even if you suck at games you can figure out what counters what after a year of playing, only the execution matters now that you have the knowledge. Introduce new weapons and bots, and then more skillful ways to use bots or weapons will come. Tell that to whoever plays sports. This year guys, instead of running 10 yards to get a down, you need to run 14. Instead of a football, were throwing shotputs  |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 15, 2018 13:07:40 GMT -5
There's only so much you can do with the same weapons and bots in 6 pack. Even if you suck at games you can figure out what counters what after a year of playing, only the execution matters now that you have the knowledge. Introduce new weapons and bots, and then more skillful ways to use bots or weapons will come. Tell that to whoever plays sports. This year guys, instead of running 10 yards to get a down, you need to run 14. Instead of a football, were throwing shotputs I don't really get the reference but I will relate this to technology. From my perspective, it's like denying technology, it'll come regardless of if you want it to or not. I dont think you should accept all of it but you should accept some of it and that applies to War Robots too. |
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Post by Domino on Apr 15, 2018 14:47:18 GMT -5
Tell that to whoever plays sports. This year guys, instead of running 10 yards to get a down, you need to run 14. Instead of a football, were throwing shotputs I don't really get the reference but I will relate this to technology. From my perspective, it's like denying technology, it'll come regardless of if you want it to or not. I dont think you should accept all of it but you should accept some of it and that applies to War Robots too. Ok, tell it to starcraft 2. Going on 8 years. We all need Shocktrains in the game like we need a hole in the head |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 15, 2018 15:06:27 GMT -5
(-_-) you’re not confusing at all
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Post by Domino on Apr 15, 2018 17:37:12 GMT -5
(-_-) you’re not confusing at all Ok, to the point. The game doesn't need more diversity (atleast slowly roll it out over years and make sure it's 100% balanced and doesn't allow for power creep) Is that clear as mud? |
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Post by allanpeter on Apr 15, 2018 19:31:39 GMT -5
There’s nothing 100% balance but I get what you mean. If you mean regular OP stuff then I agree they should take, if it’s just component stuff that is balanced then they should introduce it in small amounts.
Are you even talking about six pack or the regular game. They can’t fix the regular game now unless they do something really drastic and with lots of testing.
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 15, 2018 22:49:53 GMT -5
There’s nothing 100% balance but I get what you mean. If you mean regular OP stuff then I agree they should take, if it’s just component stuff that is balanced then they should introduce it in small amounts. Are you even talking about six pack or the regular game. They can’t fix the regular game now unless they do something really drastic and with lots of testing. Please, let's not derail this thread with this discussion about why 6 Pack isn't as good as it should be (and this is why we need a subforum GuitarGuy SuperHero ). Anyway, I wasn't saying you haven't played 6 pack allanpeter, I was referring to karlhungus as indicated by my writing, his comments weren't worth much because he doesn't understand 6 Pack. Although, I can now tell you don't play 6 Pack either. In the few months I've played 6 Pack, the tactics I've seen get developed have been increasingly refined. There is a meta in 6 Pack, there are new strategies being developed (including by my team) that demand different and new robots and weapon setups. And eventually, when someone figures out a counter to those strategies, the counter will likely require new setups and such. That player driven meta is exciting, but if you don't play or watch 6 Pack, you won't see it, won't understand it. If all you've been exposed to has been a meta driven by a pay to win game, sure you'll get bored because the highest priced content will always be the meta. Pixonic controls it entirely. But 6 Pack is player driven, it will be endlessly evolving and refining. The Starcraft analogy is spot on there. Same old content, over 20 years old... yet people still develop new strategies, new ways to play. Same with Chess. The component stuff subtracts from War Robots because it is overpowered. Allow the Vortex and the Aphid Patton becomes instantly obsolete. Allow the Tempest and the Molot Griffin loses luster. Allow the Storm and Gust, and the Thunder becomes obsolete.Balance is what leads to diversity, not content quantity. That is why component content shouldn't be allowed. Not only are they harder to collect, they subtract other content from the game. It is why Starcraft Brood War hasn't seen new units in decades, and Chess new pieces in centuries. There comes a point in every game, when adding something subtracts something else. At that point, the only logical reason to add more is if you are selling content. The heart of any game is the meta it creates. That is where we can truly make a game our own. |
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Post by SuperHero on Apr 16, 2018 6:48:49 GMT -5
bronzeknee Noted. Not sure if there is critical mass for it yet. Maybe start a poll and see the response?
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 16, 2018 7:03:44 GMT -5
Hi, I joined the discord group and have been reading through the channels but I’m unclear if it’s only for established teams in a tournament. I’m not able to commit to a month long schedule right now but I’d like to try it out in random games with whoever. Is there such a place where I can see when people are gathering and post my ID to be included in spontaneous battles? Preferably without comms because of my situation but I could play in the bathroom I guess (rofl)Oh hell. You've got me mind picturing a very uncomfortable one way battle conversation to be heard from the next stall. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 16, 2018 7:21:32 GMT -5
I haven't played in the 6PL, but for me the only weapons and bots I believe are over the top are just the Shocktrain, Ember, and maybe the Dragoon, along with all of the dash bots and newer. I actually like all of the rest of the newer weapons. They just force players to play smarter. In fact they are very well balanced in relation to all of the older equipment. None are overpowering at least.
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