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Post by White1Golf on Mar 14, 2018 22:10:11 GMT -5
Don't bother reporting. I reckon pix can sort this without any assistance. They can look at the activity levels. If someone plays 20 hours a day than there is an issue. if someone gets gifted truck loads of gold there is an issue...... its just a logic and then coding/scripting.
If pix gets this right then the legend league and clan rankings will look significantly different.
Another issue most concerning, based on OPs converstion sample between pixonic and (guilty)player, player gets a slap on the wrist, gold removed BUT had their account unblocked(regardless of TOSâ??s doâ??s and donâ??t). Now anyone can pretend to be a saint full of righteousness the moment theyâ??re caught and are still able to retain their ill-gotten gears? Hell Iâ??m reporting every filth I see off or on the battlefield!...No wait, I have a better idea. Join em! Get your wrist slapped, big deal, you can still keep those ill-gotten bots and weps anyway!  Pissonics actions against loaders and inaction on othwr fronts make it clear they only care about things that directly affect their pocketbook. On one hand buying third party currency is a no no, on the other, that action wouldn't cross most people's minds if pissonic didn't price things so ridiculously. The amount of grinding or real money necessary to attain almost anything released in the last 6 months is ludicrous. So hey, ?fluffy bunny? PIXONIC! As linguini pointed out, these player's actions are akin to a street thug stealing from the mob. So ?fluffy bunny? PIXONIC, if you can get over on these ?poo place?s, do it! They won't even ban you lmfao.
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Post by T34 on Mar 14, 2018 22:28:35 GMT -5
Don't bother reporting. I reckon pix can sort this without any assistance. They can look at the activity levels. If someone plays 20 hours a day than there is an issue. if someone gets gifted truck loads of gold there is an issue...... its just a logic and then coding/scripting.
If pix gets this right then the legend league and clan rankings will look significantly different.
Another issue most concerning, based on OPs converstion sample between pixonic and (guilty)player, player gets a slap on the wrist, gold removed BUT had their account unblocked(regardless of TOS’s do’s and don’t). Now anyone can pretend to be a saint full of righteousness the moment they’re caught and are still able to retain their ill-gotten gears? Hell I’m reporting every filth I see off or on the battlefield!...No wait, I have a better idea. Join em! Get your wrist slapped, big deal, you can still keep those ill-gotten bots and weps anyway! Its a free mobile game for your entertainment. Play the game as you see fit and don't take it too seriously. Reporting and stuff are spin to make reporters feel better. No business is going to drive away their key customers. Has the thought ever crossed your mind that by Pix allowing you the reporting opportunity has got you involved in a crusade. A crusade to stay in the game so the game reflects your oppinion but not to clean it up
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 14, 2018 22:40:00 GMT -5
Another issue most concerning, based on OPs converstion sample between pixonic and (guilty)player, player gets a slap on the wrist, gold removed BUT had their account unblocked(regardless of TOSâ??s doâ??s and donâ??t). Now anyone can pretend to be a saint full of righteousness the moment theyâ??re caught and are still able to retain their ill-gotten gears? Hell Iâ??m reporting every filth I see off or on the battlefield!...No wait, I have a better idea. Join em! Get your wrist slapped, big deal, you can still keep those ill-gotten bots and weps anyway!  Pissonics actions against loaders and inaction on othwr fronts make it clear they only care about things that directly affect their pocketbook. On one hand buying third party currency is a no no, on the other, that action wouldn't cross most people's minds if pissonic didn't price things so ridiculously. The amount of grinding or real money necessary to attain almost anything released in the last 6 months is ludicrous. So hey, ?fluffy bunny? PIXONIC! As linguini pointed out, these player's actions are akin to a street thug stealing from the mob. So ?fluffy bunny? PIXONIC, if you can get over on these ?poo place?s, do it! They won't even ban you lmfao. Another issue most concerning, based on OPs converstion sample between pixonic and (guilty)player, player gets a slap on the wrist, gold removed BUT had their account unblocked(regardless of TOS’s do’s and don’t). Now anyone can pretend to be a saint full of righteousness the moment they’re caught and are still able to retain their ill-gotten gears? Hell I’m reporting every filth I see off or on the battlefield!...No wait, I have a better idea. Join em! Get your wrist slapped, big deal, you can still keep those ill-gotten bots and weps anyway! Its a free mobile game for your entertainment. Play the game as you see fit and don't take it too seriously. Reporting and stuff are spin to make reporters feel better. No business is going to drive away their key customers. Has the thought ever crossed your mind that by Pix allowing you the reporting opportunity has got you involved in a crusade. A crusade to stay in the game so the game reflects your oppinion but not to clean it up You know what guys, I have three accounts. I just might try it on my lesser account(in bronze league I think) just to see where it goes. Don’t really care about that account so I might as well toy around with it?
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Post by Radar love on Mar 14, 2018 23:06:40 GMT -5
I don't get the reference. So are loaders people using a hacking tool? And how are they buying gold from 3rd parties? Google Kurt loader.
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Post by paras on Mar 14, 2018 23:48:01 GMT -5
Wow fabulous. It's amazing how people find opportunities in everything. To think about starting a multinational business for IAP in mobile games....just amazing.
Kudos to OP too for finding and sharing such a great news here ??
Edit: And here I thought I have good knowledge about online gaming. After reading this It feel like I have just started to explore the whole new side of online gaming world.
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Post by naaman on Mar 15, 2018 1:21:29 GMT -5
Tankers - no action. Clubbers - Keep on keeping on. Money - feel the fury! Truth right there.
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Post by frunobulax on Mar 15, 2018 4:00:39 GMT -5
How ironic when they spot a loader thry immediatelycrack them down, but a person report a tanker they don't do squat ?poo-poo?. Go figure The solution for loaders is easy, isn't it? Remove the gold illegaly taken, and suspend the account until they have bought enough gold to reach 0. Too bad Pixo won't do it.
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Post by frunobulax on Mar 15, 2018 4:49:29 GMT -5
I just found out that you can share loot in your clan XD You can? I thought you can just buy gold for somebody else, at the regular rate.
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Post by stamos65 on Mar 15, 2018 5:21:06 GMT -5
I just found out that you can share loot in your clan XD You can? I thought you can just buy gold for somebody else, at the regular rate. Really?
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Post by Domino on Mar 15, 2018 11:49:26 GMT -5
This may help shed some light on the subject: Based on the way the explanation was given it just seems to be an accepted practice with an "Oh well, bad luck, got caught, move on" attitude. Given the comment delivery it would appear that this practice is an accepted and widespread activity. It actually casts a credibility cloud over the LL and clan activity IMO. Yeah, it's money laundering but it's not bad, it's a "white" crime I'm disappointing in Pixonic, I mean He has 5 hangars that are fully Maxed Mk2 or atleast close to. If they just look at how much he spent on his email, cross reference the CC he used, they'd see exactly what he bought. However i'm pretty sure a lot of that fame and fortunate was bought with dirty money, so he still has it all but optionally can repay -227k gold. How about this, suspend the account until he pays it all off first! It's like Terrorism demands, you don't give it once, because once you do, everyone will know you're soft and will do it and accept the risk. He was the perfect person to make an example of and they threw out the opportunity due to pocket change.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 16, 2018 8:31:50 GMT -5
Wow this game is really going to 「dookie」, and pixonic aint doing 「dookie」
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Post by seanh on Mar 16, 2018 9:23:15 GMT -5
Does anyone want free gold?
I am starting a fool proof and completely legit ‘players sharing circle’,
Its simple, I’m starting a clan ‘[SSc] Sean’s Sharing Circle’. It’s a straight forward multi level investment opportunity. You invest 1000Au to join. You recruit in your friends and for every friend you recruit in you get back 500 Au (yes that right, 3 friends and your in profit) but get this, there is no limit!!! Get 10 Friends and you get 5k Au, absolutely free. And we keep going, once our first clan circle gets full I’ll launch as many new chapters as needed. We use the tried and tested polyhedron economics concepts to keep our investment alive.
This is completely inside the games rules. Pix can do nothing. You can’t loose!!!!!!!
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Post by mechtout on Mar 16, 2018 11:09:57 GMT -5
You know who is for sure loaders if they have 3 to 4 hangar decks, and even more obvious when they are filled with level 1 component bots. Gotta use the gold quick.
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Post by T34 on Mar 16, 2018 17:08:50 GMT -5
Wow this game is really going to 「dookie」, and pixonic aint doing 「dookie」 It has GONE to 「dookie」. It has more holes in it than a sieve. Unbalanced meta further unbalanced and items remaining in play The more pixonic squeezes the players the more players will slip through their fingers until there is hardly anything left. The effects of the pixonic strategy are slowly but surely coming home to roost.
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Post by vahag on Mar 16, 2018 19:58:05 GMT -5
Does anyone want free gold? I am starting a fool proof and completely legit ‘players sharing circle’, Its simple, I’m starting a clan ‘[SSc] Sean’s Sharing Circle’. It’s a straight forward multi level investment opportunity. You invest 1000Au to join. You recruit in your friends and for every friend you recruit in you get back 500 Au (yes that right, 3 friends and your in profit) but get this, there is no limit!!! Get 10 Friends and you get 5k Au, absolutely free. And we keep going, once our first clan circle gets full I’ll launch as many new chapters as needed. We use the tried and tested polyhedron economics concepts to keep our investment alive. This is completely inside the games rules. Pix can do nothing. You can’t loose!!!!!!! Im in... lets go. what to do now xD
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Mar 17, 2018 2:16:29 GMT -5
Actually it's pretty clever and yes Domino it should work just like you have described. Buy stuff in countries where it is cheap and then use the clan system to distribute the gold. I don't see any "third party action" that Pix wants to prohibit as everything works within the Google or the Apple universe. It's perfectly legal. As someone stated earlier, legality is not the issue here. ToS should reflect that EVERYONE has a fair shake at enjoying the game. What these people were/are doing is ruining the game for many others (paying&non-paying) by finding a legal loophole in the ToS or breaking the ToS entirely. Even non-subbed players should be seen as potential income as they fill the MM ranks for those with subs, and make small micro purchases in game. These Hacks/Loopholes/Ect.. chase away seasoned paying members and new members with potential to stay by unfair practices of the few. When the game dies due to things like this would you still be saying "well it was legal!" ?
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Post by [CK]erazor on Mar 17, 2018 3:55:14 GMT -5
Actually it's pretty clever and yes Domino it should work just like you have described. Buy stuff in countries where it is cheap and then use the clan system to distribute the gold. I don't see any "third party action" that Pix wants to prohibit as everything works within the Google or the Apple universe. It's perfectly legal. As someone stated earlier, legality is not the issue here. ToS should reflect that EVERYONE has a fair shake at enjoying the game. What these people were/are doing is ruining the game for many others (paying&non-paying) by finding a legal loophole in the ToS or breaking the ToS entirely. Even non-subbed players should be seen as potential income as they fill the MM ranks for those with subs, and make small micro purchases in game. These Hacks/Loopholes/Ect.. chase away seasoned paying members and new members with potential to stay by unfair practices of the few. When the game dies due to things like this would you still be saying "well it was legal!" ? Please don't put words in my mouth as I never have taken sides and especially not the side of the loaders. I merely looked into the matter, investigated how this possibly works and shared my findings with the forum. Think of me as of an observer from a technical perspective. Pix by the way won't do much about loading. The guy from the linked video praises Pix that he can keep his account and his stuff as his account was unblocked by Pix. If Pix wanted to balance the game, they absolutely would have to PERMANENTLY ban accounts that were involved with loader practice.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 18, 2018 5:54:32 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD.
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Post by Domino on Mar 18, 2018 7:07:29 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. You can be in LL after a new season. Just as long as you are playing right after the reset.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 18, 2018 8:10:06 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. You can be in LL after a new season. Just as long as you are playing right after the reset. He is lvl 23 with over 4k victories. Also his weekly activity is zero and he is currently 14 th in ll ios.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 18, 2018 11:50:29 GMT -5
As someone stated earlier, legality is not the issue here. ToS should reflect that EVERYONE has a fair shake at enjoying the game. What these people were/are doing is ruining the game for many others (paying&non-paying) by finding a legal loophole in the ToS or breaking the ToS entirely. Even non-subbed players should be seen as potential income as they fill the MM ranks for those with subs, and make small micro purchases in game. These Hacks/Loopholes/Ect.. chase away seasoned paying members and new members with potential to stay by unfair practices of the few. When the game dies due to things like this would you still be saying "well it was legal!" ? Please don't put words in my mouth as I never have taken sides and especially not the side of the loaders. I merely looked into the matter, investigated how this possibly works and shared my findings with the forum. Think of me as of an observer from a technical perspective. Pix by the way won't do much about loading. The guy from the linked video praises Pix that he can keep his account and his stuff as his account was unblocked by Pix. If Pix wanted to balance the game, they absolutely would have to PERMANENTLY ban accounts that were involved with loader practice. Thats not what happened in JJ’s case, though, nor, I suspect, in the majority of these cases. In JJ’s case, the guy he paid later got a refund from google play. That’s theft. It’s all well and good to glamorize putting it to Pixonic by taking advantage of poor people in third world countries (sarcasm), but I tend to believe it’s more a case of stolen credit cards and the like. By the way, all of these players who’ve had their accounts suspended so far are on the android side. I can’t WAIT for Pixonic to get around to iOS.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 18, 2018 11:53:11 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. What the heck?! How is that possible? Is that android or iOS?
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Post by darkknight on Mar 18, 2018 12:15:29 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. What the heck?! How is that possible? Is that android or iOS? Ios. Already reported to pix but havent got reply yet. Last time I checked he was ranked 14th in LL. Also with Loader you can change your stats as you want too. Btw idk if any noob clan members are in this fourm but a friend of mine told me that a lot of players of that clan are using Loader.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 18, 2018 12:25:52 GMT -5
Another one. I find it hard to belive that he played 24/7 and got that many activity points. I belive there are more loaders than whales in champ leaugue ?.
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Post by bronzeknee on Mar 18, 2018 17:00:12 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment.
So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 18, 2018 17:13:37 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment. So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time. Actually, I believe the negative gold balance was restored to zero and he had a bunch of robots and weapons taken away instead. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because he’s already been scapegoated enough.
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Post by bronzeknee on Mar 18, 2018 17:16:09 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment. So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time. Actually, I believe the negative gold balance was restored to zero and he had a bunch of robots and weapons taken away instead. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because he’s already been scapegoated enough. The people I know who got hit on Android recieved the negative gold balance. I hope you are correct and Pixonic changes direction. Seriously, War Robots isn't a competitively balanced game, let's stop pretending it should be one. The content is ridiculously imbalanced and the top clans are competing for activity points based on damage done. I saw moderngunguy (was recently top Legend Players) on the ladder, and he literally just threw his robots away in an effort to deal maximum damage while meching out, so he could get into the next game. Not playing to win, not skillful in the least bit... Pixonic ruined the competitive game when they went pay to win, and they've ruined their profits too... but it's still fun to play.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 18, 2018 17:28:42 GMT -5
Another one. I find it hard to belive that he played 24/7 and got that many activity points. I belive there are more loaders than whales in champ leaugue ?. Wow, that’s infuriating. Who tf ARE these deadbeats?!! As for NOOB, yes, they were undoubtedly using silver farmers and possibly gold loaders. I made a post about it on FB a couple weeks back when they were number one in clan rankings. They’ve since been outspent. ?
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Post by Domino on Mar 18, 2018 17:41:21 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment. So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because he’s already been scapegoated enough.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 19, 2018 4:19:01 GMT -5
Wow, that’s infuriating. Who tf ARE these deadbeats?!! As for NOOB, yes, they were undoubtedly using silver farmers and possibly gold loaders. I made a post about it on FB a couple weeks back when they were number one in clan rankings. They’ve since been outspent. ? Actually all of those guys ( few are whales ofc but very few) with all 5x hangar with full mk2 diess hangar are usually using loader. It’s really easy to mark them out. Not sure why pix hasnt noticed it specially as people aren’t giving $ to them but instead giving to 3rd party ( hackers). I really don’t belive that all those guys actually spent. If pix digs down deep champ leaugue might become playable again without spending much $. Some of my clan members are whales too and they have one full mk2 dash hangar or two at best. They said that they have better things to do in RL and would spend at some other things rather than making 5x max dash hangar. Yes they spend a lot but even whales (most of them) won’t make 5x full mk2 hangar.
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