popsicleandhammer
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Post by popsicleandhammer on Jan 25, 2017 16:21:05 GMT -5
If they implement a transparent league system where farming to a lesser extent can still happen, then I'm happy but without farming I will be playing about 50 games less a day and eventually none. I get all my joy from gold rewards. If I'm on a team and we win but I get no gold.. I feel like I lost.. Only time I feel ok about no gold win is when squadding with clan mates I totally agree. Winning a game without getting gold is worse than losing a game. When you lose a game at least you drop down and possibly face easier opponents. When you win and don't get gold you simply fight harder battles with nothing to show for your efforts. Right now my games are like this: 50% of time are losses 40% of the time I win without earning anything 10% of the time I luck out and win 1-3 gold. That's 90% failure rate. Ouch. I mean, to each his own, but I just play this game to have fun. If you're only enjoying it if you are able to crush the opposition and not really be challenged, maybe it really is time to light out for the frontier of a new game.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 26, 2017 9:08:31 GMT -5
I totally agree. Winning a game without getting gold is worse than losing a game. When you lose a game at least you drop down and possibly face easier opponents. When you win and don't get gold you simply fight harder battles with nothing to show for your efforts. Right now my games are like this: 50% of time are losses 40% of the time I win without earning anything 10% of the time I luck out and win 1-3 gold. That's 90% failure rate. Ouch. I mean, to each his own, but I just play this game to have fun. If you're only enjoying it if you are able to crush the opposition and not really be challenged, maybe it really is time to light out for the frontier of a new game. i perfer a balanced game with the ability to be interesting and orderly at the same time. war robots does a great job of this, and i personally love the auto targeting, so you don't get sneaked up on.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 26, 2017 15:53:10 GMT -5
You earned silver, which is FAR more important than gold to progress your hangar. Hmmm. I think you're right I've been looking at this wrong. Thanks I feel much better now. Glad you're on board, now you can stop making foolish posts.
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Post by amoebastudios on Jan 26, 2017 18:51:27 GMT -5
Glad you're on board, now you can stop making foolish posts. Lol you improved the outlook, but it's not all sunshine and rainbows now.
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Post by flounder on Jan 26, 2017 19:24:44 GMT -5
Your right I should relax. I mean the new MM obviously has its stuff together. Just to be clear I bought 4 drexlers (think that's what the piece of junk you start with is called) didn't touch them, just filled my hanger the way they came. If you will notice there is a stalker and a 4x pinta Patton standing in frame the guy just around the corner to the right moved but he was in a Griffin. Yup seems like a fair fight to me. I'm sorry but I have to call bull?poo-poo? on your statement. We've been telling people for days now that rapid hanger changes have little to no impact on what opponents you face, especially within just a few matches. You caused your own issue there, and sadly I think you are well aware of it and just creating red herrings in a sad attempt at trolling. Next. So I can't switch between a 4/5 light hanger, my 4/5 medium hanger and my all heavy hanger without penalty? And that's better than before? I love how when someone posts a pic of their hanger its big time heavies and they say 'I don't see a problem'.
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odin63
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Post by odin63 on Jan 26, 2017 19:35:07 GMT -5
I guess you're referring to me. Still not sure so you may have to say e-peen a few more times I don't use gold as a measure of success. I'm trying to progress my hangar, nothing more nothing less. To that end I want my time spent to be productive. You earned silver, which is FAR more important than gold to progress your hangar. Of course, facing much stronger bots, I earn less gold and silver, and I spend a lot more of the silver I earn on repairing my pitifully outclassed hangar. Wins are also completely meaningless without any gold reward. As already stated, they just force us into even tougher matches. And I find it difficult to believe that many players aren't at least partially motivated by winning gold. Earning gold takes time and effort. Having gold allows you to have options that don't require months of waiting. I suspect that many of those who criticize players for wanting gold are those who don't appreciate the time and effort required to earn it because they have paid for it. Still not seeing any benefits with the new mm for former silver tier players.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 26, 2017 19:39:42 GMT -5
I played my secondary account on iOS today for the first time in 3 weeks - I use it to screw around and am a lvl 20 player with L3 light and medium bots with around L5 weps. Nothing special....60% win rate with about 150 victories or so. I thought we were more than a week into the change so start in with a 0 performance score and see what it was like since my primary account where I'm a L30 pilot with H6/9 lineup was a struggle last week.
Holy crap - the first three matches were just an utter cluster [firetruck] - rhinos, trident carnages, L10 heavies, unicorns, fire breathing dragons, Elvis - you name it, I think I went up against it in those 3 matches and they were venting death at me. Needless to say, I was out in 5 minutes in each match trying to use everything I had to grab beacons, inflict a little damage but primarily stay alive.
If this is what low level players are experiencing, I can see why the posters here and elsewhere are just miserable. I thought I had it bad going up against 12/12 line ups - that was easier than these 3 matches. And there were some good line ups and decent stats on those pilots in those matches vs my pathetic account.
Low level pilots - you have my sympathy. There is no way to compete with that kind of stuff....and I have no idea why all those different strong players were in these matches. Maybe some are tanking, some maybe playing their first games? If this is going to be the case, I can see why some are just walking away.
And to all of us who are just telling low level pilots to relax, it'll get better or stop whining, I would say some are experiencing gaming hell right now.
Damn.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 19:41:45 GMT -5
It has been a week since the MM update, my win rate dropped from 78% -> 46% and I am still seeing and losing to 12/12 heavies who have 70%+ win rates. And when I go to top tier battles, the winner is decided on who has more trident Furies or RDBs. Pressing the button every 10-20 seconds does not require skill, and when those players finally were destroyed, their brawling skill usually rely on them hitting the 'Shoot Aphid' button. I really hope this MM sorts itself out before
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 27, 2017 10:46:18 GMT -5
You earned silver, which is FAR more important than gold to progress your hangar. Of course, facing much stronger bots, I earn less gold and silver, and I spend a lot more of the silver I earn on repairing my pitifully outclassed hangar. Wins are also completely meaningless without any gold reward. As already stated, they just force us into even tougher matches. And I find it difficult to believe that many players aren't at least partially motivated by winning gold. Earning gold takes time and effort. Having gold allows you to have options that don't require months of waiting. I suspect that many of those who criticize players for wanting gold are those who don't appreciate the time and effort required to earn it because they have paid for it. Still not seeing any benefits with the new mm for former silver tier players. Wins are completely meaningless without gold...... I am speechless here. You have my pity. You have made so many assumptions here it's pointless for me to try any format of debate here. Good luck. You'll need it.
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bearre
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Post by bearre on Jan 27, 2017 11:10:06 GMT -5
Of course, facing much stronger bots, I earn less gold and silver, and I spend a lot more of the silver I earn on repairing my pitifully outclassed hangar. Wins are also completely meaningless without any gold reward. As already stated, they just force us into even tougher matches. And I find it difficult to believe that many players aren't at least partially motivated by winning gold. Earning gold takes time and effort. Having gold allows you to have options that don't require months of waiting. I suspect that many of those who criticize players for wanting gold are those who don't appreciate the time and effort required to earn it because they have paid for it. Still not seeing any benefits with the new mm for former silver tier players. Wins are completely meaningless without gold...... I am speechless here. You have my pity. You have made so many assumptions here it's pointless for me to try any format of debate here. Good luck. You'll need it. All that matters is the gold....and getting it free and fast. Sad. I knew this mentality existed but tried not to acknowledge it.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Jan 27, 2017 11:49:32 GMT -5
66% of matches i eject early 33% of matches i win 10 gold That's 100% success rate. Yay. Um... seeing that my job (the one I'm supposed to be doing right now) is catching math errors, I can't... resist... pointing out... That it's actually 99%. Sorry, I tried to stop myself. No, I really did. 100% loser
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 27, 2017 13:55:21 GMT -5
Um... seeing that my job (the one I'm supposed to be doing right now) is catching math errors, I can't... resist... pointing out... That it's actually 99%. Sorry, I tried to stop myself. No, I really did. 100% loser he rounded, duh. I would say that we round for a couple of reasons: One is to estimate, as you suggest: if we have more or less exact numbers, but only need an approximate product, say, then we can save work by rounding the numbers before we do our calculations. This implies that our data are more accurate than we need (at least at the moment). Another is to reduce the accuracy of a result to reflect the accuracy of the data. You can read about this by searching for "significant digits." For example, if we measure the sides of a rectangle as 3.1 and 5.7 inches, then the area can be calculated as 17.67 square inches. But with only two digits of precision in the lengths, we can only be sure of two digits in the answer, so we should round the answer to 18 square inches to show how precise our numbers are. In each case we are reducing the precision of our numbers for some reason. I definitely didn't copy that off the internet
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 14:28:57 GMT -5
Shut Up and Play
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 27, 2017 14:42:39 GMT -5
This is not helpful at all. please delete it.
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phoenix232
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Post by phoenix232 on Jan 27, 2017 14:47:20 GMT -5
@op, you're clearly targeting 'clubbers' with your post, but it has the effect of pissing off normal people who were performing well with regular hangars. I was running high silver pre MM update, and now I'm getting placed against nothing but TT and High Gold. I've been playing relentlessly the last few days, hoping to reach the 'break point' where I get some fair matches, and this has been consistently the case.
Maybe because I don't really like losing, I've managed to hold a 74 percent ratio (down from 90s). Maybe the MM is broke on edge cases. Either way, the whole 'stop whining' thing is exceptionally condescending, and really not fair to those of us being placed in situations where the odds are clearly stacked against us, time and time again.
Just my 2c.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 27, 2017 15:00:25 GMT -5
@op, you're clearly targeting 'clubbers' with your post, but it has the effect of pissing off normal people who were performing well with regular hangars. I was running high silver pre MM update, and now I'm getting placed against nothing but TT and High Gold. I've been playing relentlessly the last few days, hoping to reach the 'break point' where I get some fair matches, and this has been consistently the case. Maybe because I don't really like losing, I've managed to hold a 74 percent ratio (down from 90s). Maybe the MM is broke on edge cases. Either way, the whole 'stop whining' thing is exceptionally condescending, and really not fair to those of us being placed in situations where the odds are clearly stacked against us, time and time again. Just my 2c. I agree it can be frustrating Phoenix, but your stats are likely driving you to these "unwinnable" matches. I've mentioned it before, outside of squad runs, solo playing in TT runs win averages into the 50-60% range due to the "even" competition. When skill is applied to MM, you (as the cream of the crop in your previous tier) are now being forced to play higher skill/equipped players. When I was running up the ladder I was doing fairly well once I hit 9/9 across the board against max hangars. Only advice (outside of the "just wait it out, it'll get better) is to concentrate on hitting 9s and you should be much better equipped to handle max hangars. Congrats btw on maintaining a >70% win rate. I personally haven't had one of those (sustained) in months...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 15:00:26 GMT -5
To all those whining, shut up and play!
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 27, 2017 15:06:39 GMT -5
@op, you're clearly targeting 'clubbers' with your post, but it has the effect of pissing off normal people who were performing well with regular hangars. I was running high silver pre MM update, and now I'm getting placed against nothing but TT and High Gold. I've been playing relentlessly the last few days, hoping to reach the 'break point' where I get some fair matches, and this has been consistently the case. Maybe because I don't really like losing, I've managed to hold a 74 percent ratio (down from 90s). Maybe the MM is broke on edge cases. Either way, the whole 'stop whining' thing is exceptionally condescending, and really not fair to those of us being placed in situations where the odds are clearly stacked against us, time and time again. Just my 2c. 74% - you are doing well in this new world. At most, I'm seeing some TT guys in the 80's because of squad play and stomping on some of us weaker guys (I think they would prefer other type of matches but oh well...we try to give them a run for their money). I'm competitive as heck and I have a 60% win rate right now....I'm getting used to it because the matches are hard. However, at least you and I have line ups that can compete with this stiffer competition - there are a number of players who are just getting clobbered. I echo your sentiment on the "stop whining" statement. Sure there is some whining and I've been guilty of some , but it is not whining from all but just some sheer frustration when you can't compete nor contribute to a game, especially from weaker players having to go up against high powered players. I think a bit of compassion is needed instead of a hammer as most folks just want to vent. Cheers!
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odin63
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Post by odin63 on Jan 27, 2017 16:55:46 GMT -5
Wins are completely meaningless without gold...... I am speechless here. You have my pity. You have made so many assumptions here it's pointless for me to try any format of debate here. Good luck. You'll need it. All that matters is the gold....and getting it free and fast. Sad. I knew this mentality existed but tried not to acknowledge it. For both of you, I don't consider it free and fast when I'm having to work hard to earn it. And it's certainly not "fast" under the new mm for any but top tier players. I also don't find a single win to be "sublime" in and of itself after being stomped 7 to 8 games in a row. I need to earn gold and silver to be competitive, and I cannot be competitive under the new system. A competitive win in a fair and close game with players who are at my own level is satisfying with or without the gold in a system whereby everyone has a fair chance. That is not happening for me with this new mm. I need to earn gold and silver so that I might one day have the opportunity to be as noble and intrinsically motivated as both of you. If the gold has so little meaning for you, why don't you find a way to donate yours to the lower tier players who are struggling to find that divine experience. Luck won't carry them, but a competitive hangar might.
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bearre
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Post by bearre on Jan 27, 2017 17:09:54 GMT -5
All that matters is the gold....and getting it free and fast. Sad. I knew this mentality existed but tried not to acknowledge it. For both of you, I don't consider it free and fast when I'm having to work hard to earn it. And it's certainly not "fast" under the new mm for any but top tier players. I also don't find a single win to be "sublime" in and of itself after being stomped 7 to 8 games in a row. I need to earn gold and silver to be competitive, and I cannot be competitive under the new system. A competitive win in a fair and close game with players who are at my own level is satisfying with or without the gold in a system whereby everyone has a fair chance. That is not happening for me with this new mm. I need to earn gold and silver so that I might one day have the opportunity to be as noble and intrinsically motivated as both of you. If the gold has so little meaning for you, why don't you find a way to donate yours to the lower tier players who are struggling to find that divine experience. Luck won't carry them, but a competitive hangar might. Honestly I am in the lower tier or mid tier (what used to be silver). I have a very modest 4 bot (5 with 750 more gold) hanger of 6/7 machines. I obviously try to accomplish my missions to get gold, and am happy when I get a gold reward to move toward that 5 bot hanger. That said my purose for playing is to have a fun time and hopefully win an even competition. For me if my team wins it is great whether I get gold or not. I certainly would not sacrifice the win to try to pad my own stats, nor would I try to exploit the system to ruin someone else's game for the benifit of farming good. If it takes me a year or more to have 5 12/12 machines that's fine. That is year of fun game play,always improving toward my goal without getting bored. As long as the matches are even (I have my doubts with the new mm) I don't need to be at the top right away.
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Post by odin63 on Jan 27, 2017 17:56:28 GMT -5
For both of you, I don't consider it free and fast when I'm having to work hard to earn it. And it's certainly not "fast" under the new mm for any but top tier players. I also don't find a single win to be "sublime" in and of itself after being stomped 7 to 8 games in a row. I need to earn gold and silver to be competitive, and I cannot be competitive under the new system. A competitive win in a fair and close game with players who are at my own level is satisfying with or without the gold in a system whereby everyone has a fair chance. That is not happening for me with this new mm. I need to earn gold and silver so that I might one day have the opportunity to be as noble and intrinsically motivated as both of you. If the gold has so little meaning for you, why don't you find a way to donate yours to the lower tier players who are struggling to find that divine experience. Luck won't carry them, but a competitive hangar might. Honestly I am in the lower tier or mid tier (what used to be silver). I have a very modest 4 bot (5 with 750 more gold) hanger of 6/7 machines. I obviously try to accomplish my missions to get gold, and am happy when I get a gold reward to move toward that 5 bot hanger. That said my purose for playing is to have a fun time and hopefully win an even competition. For me if my team wins it is great whether I get gold or not. I certainly would not sacrifice the win to try to pad my own stats, nor would I try to exploit the system to ruin someone else's game for the benifit of farming good. If it takes me a year or more to have 5 12/12 machines that's fine. That is year of fun game play,always improving toward my goal without getting bored. As long as the matches are even (I have my doubts with the new mm) I don't need to be at the top right away. That was my point. I've steadily worked my way up to a competitive hangar, by earning the gold to level up and acquire bots and weapons through wins. I concentrated on a hangar with light bots for the faster play in silver tier and have never played down in bronze (deliberately or otherwise,) to farm. I have never enjoyed overwhelming losses or wins. The new mm has trashed my efforts and turned my cultivated assortment to a woefully inadequate hangar for any sort of enjoyable play. I do play the game for pleasure, but I think anyone would have to admit that getting slaughtered in most of your matches is not fun. At all. In fact, I suspect that the win ratio (or in my case, the loss ratio,) is deliberately skewed. With the mm change, I have hovered at the low end of 46% - 56% according to my profile, but I can tell you that I am nowhere close to winning at those percentages. I like to be competitive, and it galls to consistently lose (most by a wide margin to 10/12 - 12/12 hangars,) without having any sort of fair chance to win or upgrade my hangar so I can actually contribute. I am certainly willing to work my way up, because I've done that twice now, with my current profile, and once before with an older one I no longer use. In that sense, wins are meaningless toward getting that competitive (and thus. enjoyable,) hangar if I can't earn gold. Good luck to you.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 29, 2017 13:05:43 GMT -5
To all those whining, shut up and play! You just can't say anything positive, can you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:25:13 GMT -5
To all those whining, shut up and play! You just can't say anything positive, can you. You have pretty blue eyes!
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 29, 2017 13:42:14 GMT -5
You just can't say anything positive, can you. You have pretty blue eyes! Thanks I bought them on ebay for the price of positive contributions.
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Post by mr7q on Jan 29, 2017 14:20:05 GMT -5
If they implement a transparent league system where farming to a lesser extent can still happen, then I'm happy but without farming I will be playing about 50 games less a day and eventually none. I get all my joy from gold rewards. If I'm on a team and we win but I get no gold.. I feel like I lost.. Only time I feel ok about no gold win is when squadding with clan mates I totally agree. Winning a game without getting gold is worse than losing a game. When you lose a game at least you drop down and possibly face easier opponents. When you win and don't get gold you simply fight harder battles with nothing to show for your efforts. Right now my games are like this: 50% of time are losses 40% of the time I win without earning anything 10% of the time I luck out and win 1-3 gold. That's 90% failure rate. Ouch. To be fair, War Robots being a PVP game, there are (ideally) 11 other players in a game with you. With all things equal, you should only be on the top of the leaderboard on the winning team ~8% of the time from that alone. Every time you get 10 gold in a match, there are ten other real people, who hopefully fought just as hard, getting nothing so it should definitely be an achievement to earn, not expect. I have my own issues with the somewhat mercurial nature of the Match Maker these days, but challenging individual players to make them able to consistently get 10 gold every game isn't one of them.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 30, 2017 7:40:28 GMT -5
I totally agree. Winning a game without getting gold is worse than losing a game. When you lose a game at least you drop down and possibly face easier opponents. When you win and don't get gold you simply fight harder battles with nothing to show for your efforts. Right now my games are like this: 50% of time are losses 40% of the time I win without earning anything 10% of the time I luck out and win 1-3 gold. That's 90% failure rate. Ouch. To be fair, War Robots being a PVP game, there are (ideally) 11 other players in a game with you. With all things equal, you should only be on the top of the leaderboard on the winning team ~8% of the time from that alone. Every time you get 10 gold in a match, there are ten other real people, who hopefully fought just as hard, getting nothing so it should definitely be an achievement to earn, not expect. I have my own issues with the somewhat mercurial nature of the Match Maker these days, but challenging individual players to make them able to consistently get 10 gold every game isn't one of them. A more matched game will help more people to get gold rewards after battles and to help mitigate the difference between gold in players.
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FunkenA
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 30, 2017 11:35:05 GMT -5
Ok, first of all, I'm going to repeat something I've said on the rant board: Seeing all the "I've so carefully built (more like, bought) a 5 gep hangar to slaughter newbies and now I'm getting slaughtered" cries here and in other venues is such a balm for my player's soul Second of all: for those "You changed the rules, I want my money back": you spent your money fully knowing anything in the came could and would and will be changed. Also, did those people who bought aphids back then when they were silver weapons had to pay when they were turned gold? Those who bought any of the Bunch bots paid more when they were buffed? So, please, stop. Third of all: you of the "The new MM benefits only the paying people": a) they paying people are complaining so, there must be something wrong and b) paying people essentially pay for time, nothing else. There is nothing that a free player can't get that a gold player cn. Slog it off long enough and you will end up in exactly the same position. Nothing stops you form earning a minimum of 1800 to 2400 gold a month by completing the daily missions, plus another 270 a month if you squad with your clan. Plus the gold that you will undoubtly keep winning, even if possibly at a slower rate than when you could club the newbies all day long. Plus that that you will get from the ever more common contests (Lunar new year? seriously?). Get a grip. With that said: Relax. A) The MM is self adjusting and, in fact, it is already adjusting. I've moved from losing 10 games in a row to being back to about the same win % as before (mid gold hangar). The same is reported from most of the people in the forum that have had the patience of actually completing games, even if evidently on the losing side, rather than rage quitting because their clubbing hangar is being wasted by players of the same level playing with their everyday, heavier, hangar. B) Yeah, your gepard hangars will probably be slightly less effective. Why? Because if it's true that there is an ELO rating and that the MM is skewed on that, all those 90% win rates will probably all go down to about 60% at first and then they will pobably develop the same ranking (as they have the same playing behaviour) end up matched against each other. What we will probably see is games with full swarms of gepards rather than the single gepard hangar massacring everyone else. That, it seems to me, is already happening: I've been back to bronze (well, what used to be bronze... nyway, with lighter bots which I suppose played on the hangar weight part of the equation) as I got one of those beacon missions and what I saw is that, if before the change I got the lonely seal clubbr every 5 games, this time I got 4 games out of 10 where there were 3 or 4 gepard hangars in play. It was actually kind of fun to see them circling each other while I was jumping around with my cossack. C) You want to have fun? Then squad. I've been in two games with squads made of only gepards (from clan currently number 22 and 30something). They basically played raptor pack tactics and they were devastating, including taking down trident and zeus furies (when three ghepards run at you, one might fall, but the ther two will reach the target). Yes, that means you will not be the one getting 10 gold 95% of the times in less than 5 minutes as you will have to share with your teammates... and you know what? Tough. Lonely clubbers are (maybe, I hope, but I don't fully believe it unfortunately) a thing of the past, but raptor packs are probably seeing their new dawn in silver and gold (assuming those tiers and the classification they come from will have any meaning a month from now). D) In any case, there's no need to panic, I'm sure you will find a new way of hijacking the MM to your best advantage in no time. In the meanwhile, try to look less girlish and whiney. MM is self sadjusting always adjusting to endsure you get slaughtered by a higher lvl player ALWAYS..
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 30, 2017 11:40:16 GMT -5
I mean, to each his own, but I just play this game to have fun. If you're only enjoying it if you are able to crush the opposition and not really be challenged, maybe it really is time to light out for the frontier of a new game. i perfer a balanced game with the ability to be interesting and orderly at the same time. war robots does a great job of this, and i personally love the auto targeting, so you don't get sneaked up on. I really don't understand why you think its fun not to progress.. I like to win gold thats the game I fell in love with a year ago and thats the game I willingly spent money on. I was a noob I went up against geps and I came out the other side just fine. I agree the MM needed some fixing but this new MM is just garbage. I can't squad because clan is to varied ... I might leave the game if it stays like this.. Giving the 1 more shot at finding the right balance.. BUT THIS IS NOT IT I play games to farm and build.. If that ceases then whats the point just battle for wins and losses and a painfully slow progression.. Yeah sounds like so much fun [/sarcasm] So you probably can chase us away.. But don't be surprised when you still have lots of unhappy players and a lot less of them.. Players are quitting..
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Jan 30, 2017 12:54:15 GMT -5
MM is self sadjusting always adjusting to endsure you get slaughtered by a higher lvl player ALWAYS.. Sigh. No, it's not. You can check my thread on a medium hangar and see for yourself. I started facing 12/12 heavies and by the 20th game the enemy was around my hangar strenght (slightly lower level heavies o slightly higher level mediums as top bot).
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 30, 2017 13:38:31 GMT -5
MM is self sadjusting always adjusting to endsure you get slaughtered by a higher lvl player ALWAYS.. Sigh. No, it's not. You can check my thread on a medium hangar and see for yourself. I started facing 12/12 heavies and by the 20th game the enemy was around my hangar strenght (slightly lower level heavies o slightly higher level mediums as top bot). you only face stronger bots when you have a high win score because the new mm weighs more heavily on that now
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