New Matchmaking = Socialized Video Gaming

You have been playing for about a week and you have GepS to get back to?

Eh...

Admittedly the mm has improved some over the last week, even I can admit that but I always get up around 60% wins and then I get stacked against bots like this, I'm sure it's partly my fault for having lvl 8 mags but c'mon,

yea, I also had multiple hangars.. not sure that works anymore tho.

The difference between solo play and squad play right now is ridiculous! When squadding, almost every match is at least somewhat competitive, and even when we draw a top tier opponent, it very seldom feels like we didn't put up a fight. We might get beat, but it at least feels like a battle.

Solo missions (I have started to call them "suicide missions", lol) are completely different. Whether I score top damage and my team gets wiped out, or my team wins but my contribution is minimal, it just feels like there is no balance. As a middling pilot with a "silver" mentality, I am not loving the new world, and I have yet to see any improvement. Things are pretty much the same as when this disaster first hit.

I have played gold. I played gold when 5 rhino hangars were everywhere. The gameplay was repetitive, and favoured teams with comms (not as widely used at that point) and maxed equipment. These days, the trident fury is king, and the style of gameplay is even less appealing to me. In case you haven't figured it out by now, I wasn't very good in gold.

So I, along with thousands of other players, slid back down to "silver". I played a fairly optimized hangar, but with a variety of bots rather than a fleet of mag geps. Gameplay was varied, interesting, and fast paced. Sure, some games saw poorly equipped pilots, and sometimes a mag gep stampede left you wondering what happened, but most games were fairly well balanced affairs that went 8+ minutes and often were in doubt until the very end.

Gold tier players have been touting their play style and highly competitive battlefield forever, disdaining any who did not want/like what they liked. Being forced into that world has not changed my opinion, I still don't care for it.

If I were a highly competitive, dedicated War Robot pilot, gold tier would likely be an aspiration, a natural progression for a hard core pilot. As a casual player who enjoys a few quick paced battled every now and then, the game has lost a bit of its lustre. If it wasn't for squadding with fellow clan mates, the game would likely see very little action from me at all.

From a widely varied gaming experience, War Robots has become a "one size fits all" affair.

And, like every effort Pixonic has ever made to address forum/facebook/email complaints,  the cure is worse than the disease ever was.

Cheers!

ps.  full disclosure:  I have never claimed that any success I might have in silver would translate in any way to play in gold/top tier.  Indeed, my experiences suggest that I am not ready, or possibly don't even have the right mindset/game acumen to ever have significant success there.  Does that mean I should stop playing?  Is there only one proper kind of war robots player?  

This is nonsense.  The tests would have to be done over such a long period of time it's ludicrous. They test bot Balance and effectiveness,  same for weapons. A match making  system? Come on man, be serious. 

While I get your underlying thinking thump, you can't dismiss the dynamic nature of live server mm (where there are thousands of variables that affect how it balances).

I've done UAT testing before rollout too. However in UAT you're testing in a static environment that has limited (controlled) changes to it from a limited set of users. Very controlled environment.

Thunderkiss is correct, Test Server provides maxed gear to all players (thereby nullifying gear difference weighting). Additionally, we don't know how long it will take the mm to factor in new win/loss rates to a player's rating.

Test is only open for limited window on the weekend. Additionally, players aren't dedicating their entire weekend play to Test when they can generate in game currency on their prod account. I know I play an hour on average on Test to check out the new changes.

So, no I don't think Test Server is a viable platform to try and test something as dynamic and time reliant as MM. The time horizon needed for MM to update a player's rating correctly (as well as varied hangar setups that need to be accounted for) are simply not present on Test.

I take it back then... altho taht's a surprising statement. I hope, I'm actually confident, you'll be better off in the long run as a new player (welcome, btw)

a) who elected you to be the voice of this "very large number of frustrated users"? Or, to be less dramatic, did you actually conduct a survey of the player base to know of this "very large number of frustrated users" or you are just throwing stuff to the air?

b) is there a very large number of frustrated users? Basing one's opinion on the quantity (thank goodness, not the quality) of rants here or on facebook gets into a lot of perception bias, confirmation bias, sample selection bias and, of course, the silent majority conundrum: if it's there you can't tell, if you can tell it's not silent.

As a self professed republican (you didn't actually have to tell us, all that "winner mentality" and "socialized gaming" kind of gave you out... and I'm a conservative, mind you) you should know that basing statements on silent majorities that might not be there is dangerous business, you had a gigantic proof of that just a couple of month ago.

I'd rather avoit such broad statements. Just saying.

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Eventually, Piconix will know if they pissed off the majority of the users in the most brutal and direct way: by their bank account. And if so, I tend to think they'll do something about it.

Damn.  What are your bot and weapon levels?  Heavies?  Lights?  Mediums?  IDK if matters, but I did notice that if I put even a level 6 heavy in my hanger the competition changes noticeably.

Yeah I truly think that is the case... like i was saying in my posts... I can't tell if adding or taking out heavies makes a difference or not... many say it won't, many say it will. I have had inconsistent results.

But the only thing that IS constant as far as the people who have more even matches, is that it settled over time.

I do stress that 4/8 mediums seem to be a death trap. Weapon levels are more of a factor than bot levels by all accounts. If you are running those, perhaps try either lower level weapons or higher level bots? If any do try this... do it for more than 1 match. MM is too fickle to take one match as a standard.

Agreed I was spending cash to help catch me up but since new mm no more cash from me I mean its ridiculous they players I'm running with now I mean gild tier play and I'm the only one capping beacons?? And and damage and still a loss because of duty pilots or Natasha hiding with long range wep..or my fav stand right outside of range of beacons and look at it like a dummy pixo I agree with trying to get ride of people bronze tier clubbers ..but wow punish everybody because of it pixo says 2 weeks it will get better well it will or I'm done I know this damn we are playing to lose now from the lack of participation because these guys don't know nothing about playing as a team and now we can't even farm gold I guess if you ain't top tier. CAsh spender u ain't getting nowhere in this game

This seems to be the root problem for most people criticizing the new match maker.  Which seems to have been Pixonic's intent, because gold farming by one player diminishes the user experience for 11 other players.  

How does the MM influences anything you just reported? You think a different MM would give you random players who are more proficient? random players have random skills, that's the reasons we join clans, to know who we are playing with!

The only reason why you didn't notice the "dummies" before  (because, yes, they have always been there) is that either they were in front of you as a target or you were too busy clubbing seals to notice what was going on at your back and as long as your dummy copanions stayed in the game and gave your enemy something to distract fire from your gepard, you were fine.

Boo--ohhh, you actually have to work with other now, what a tragedy.