New Matchmaking = Socialized Video Gaming

No offense son, but that's complete nonsense. The stated objective of the MM is to match you up with equivalent opposition. In other words, what player out there, when matched with you, only gives you a 50/50 shot at winning. That pushes you to the very edge of your skillset. 

Giving you worthy competition to challenge you, to push you to do your best? That's the very opposite of "pusification." Feasting on weaker opposition so you can have your "participation trophy" of a 90% win rate sounds like the real "safe space" to me. 

Incidentally, let's try and keep all that "snowflake/participation trophy/safe space" trolling that's so en vogue right now on social media at the door, where it belongs. Differing opinionsi s great, but the inflammatory stuff maybe not so much.

lilryry Right. What you want is outmatched opposition to dominate against. And what you're objecting to is a dynamic system that continually seeks to instead pit you against your equal (as in, combination of gear/skill). We get it.

sadly you don't get it at all...I just don't want the roller coaster of winning a few then getting dominated for a few then rinse repeat. I love how when a lower mid level player says they don't like having to fight lvl 10+ some on here the elitist take that as "I want to club noobs"

Oh god... 5 4/8 gep hangars aren't clubbing? I honestly thought it wasn't possible to lie to yourself....and the irony is killing me! For ?firetruck? sakes, you guys stay in lower tiers to repeatedly pummel noobs, oh wait, I'm sorry, 'Farm' in completely even matches. And now your complaining because your having to fight others with no chance of winning? Does this sound familiar? Jeez, if only the MM matched you with TT players for the same amount of matches you spent in bronze

A mod didn't change that. There is a system implemented that swaps out cussing for more appropriate terms, it's like auto correct. It's there cuz there a kids and whatnot on this forum.

Its easy to minimize 50-60% win rates when you have reached the top tiers, have all the best bots and weapons, and your gold and WSP are just collecting dust because there is nothing else to buy. I know high level players that have tens of thousands in both gold AND WSP.



It goes unsaid just how long it takes to level in this game. New players don't know! It takes HUNDREDS of MILLIONS in silver to level to a top tier hangar. It takes MONTHS of heavy playing or years of moderate to light playing.



Wiki says to level a:

Fury 11>12 = 25 million in silver and 3.7 days

Trident 11>12 = 26 million in silver and 4.7 days



Assumptions and calculations to purchase one Fury at 5000 Gold:

5000 gold X (1 win/6 gold avg) X (10 games played/6 wins) = 1389 games played X (6 minutes per game played avg) X (1 hour/60 minutes) = 139 hours played
 

That is one month of a full time job. Think about what else you could do with that time. 

Now of course you can spend your time OR your money. PIX wants, and needs, our money. I don't blame them for that. They offer this game for FREE (!) if you are willing to spend your time. And there are talented people that developed this game. So we should appreciate we can play this game for free.



But they can price their game too high in both time and money. Since I have only been playing for 6 months or so (at peak Gepard clubbing I guess) and thought PIX accepted farming as part of the game, this now “feels” like they made leveling much more expensive in terms of time.
I have played this game way more than I should have but was unemployed after a large corporate layoff. That will change.


I am willing to take the long slow road, perhaps. PIX can frustrate me with the time to level and tease me to spend money, but I just REALLY don't like being penalized for winning and the swings and seemingly unpredictability of these matches now.



I feel bad for new players. The game just got a lot longer if you don’t have money to “buy up”.  No doubt that is part of Pixonics'  strategy, for players to buy up when they see it takes months to play up. I am fortunate that I probably don’t need much more new, can level what I have, and play at the highest levels, in a few months lol.

What, exactly, is fun about having a 12/12 hangar?  Looking at all the pretty robots in your imaginary fighting robot game?  The journey IS the fun, or at least it is supposed to be.  People enter games to find contests of skill and creativity, not to grind at an obvious but boring advantage over all opposition.  

While you were busy "farming" or whatever you like to tell yourself it was (yes it was clubbing), your journey wasn't fun.  Neither was it fun for the other 11 players in each of those matches you treated like a personal ATM for imaginary wealth.  Instead of enjoying battle, along with the total of 14 gold in spoils to be shared out among 12 human beings according to their contributions, you cheated the system in hopes of taking unfair amounts of gold for yourself with no consideration for the other people involved - while (much more egregiously IMO) ruining the battles themselves, which are the whole point of the game.  

Congrats on surviving your corporate layoff.  The self-righteous part of me wants to believe it was due to greedy jerks taking unfair advantage of everyone else in your company in a vain attempt to fill some bottomless hole in their souls with currency, which is only different from clubbing in that it happened in real life instead of a game.  The human part of me realizes that it just sucks and there is already too much suckage in this world.  


Good luck on the next job (no sarcasm at all here - everyone deserves the chance to be productive).  Meanwhile, please try to find ways of having fun that don't involve taking unfair advantage of other people.  

I agree that the journey is the fun. You assume wrong that I played Geps all the time. I actually don't like playing Geps and the "dance" they require. Unfortunately you could not really get away from them until low gold tier.

My 4/8 preferred hangar had 2 Geps for beacon capture, often 1, but used Boas and a Golem. I used Geps only because I had to fight Geps. There were many games I never brought out the Geps unless the Reds had them. I used gold to buy other bots and play other styles.

And I did not "cheat" the system. Did everyone not have the same opportunity I did? I felt I just had to battle through it, fight my way up. Those were the rules. For all I knew, Pix intended it. They created the Geps specifications, and battle rules, everything. I am in IT, a Business Analyst and capable programmer. If Pix developers wanted something different I knew they could change it quickly. They did not.

You wrongly accuse me. You know nothing about me. I started where everyone starts, at the bottom. I got clubbed. But I figured that was the price I had to pay to succeed. If they could win, so could I. And I would figure out how. I played within the rules Pix set up. I was playing to get up and out. I wanted diversified game play, able to play a medium and gold hangars with different bots and weapons. (That option is gone now.)

Would you tell our military: "We have this thing called night vision. It really works well. But it creates an unfair advantage over our enemy so you are not allowed to use it." Really? No. You give our military the best advantage you can.

People who are critical are often the same people that don't research, work hard learning from failures, and make changes (within the system) to succeed. People who don't believe in the bible never MAKE the time to read it or researched it based on archaeological facts. Its easy to fail, it takes no effort. Don't whine to me because you don't like me winning, legitimately inside the rules.

I busted my 「bum-bum」 to study and improve myself. I just had to battle through it, fight my way up. Those were the rules. I EARNED a degree in Chemistry and an MBA, now experienced in IT. You probably think I should pay even more taxes, and share my income with those who had the same opportunity but did not choose to battle through and up. Don't read that wrong. Many in real life deserve support...but many don't. I have donated hundreds of hours and tens of thousands of dollars to the unfortunate. But if you are used to working as hard as I have, you have less sympathy for people who complain about successful people, when they have the same rules/opportunity. It is the people who did not get the same blessing/opportunity that we need to share with.

I don't cheat, but I work hard at anything I spend my time at. I choose to succeed but not on the backs of others.

I worked for a company with 14,000 layoffs in 2016 due to an accounting scandal. I hate the executives that did that and they deserve jail. Mismanagement and too many others are paying the price.

I am, and will be, a great winner helping my next company succeed, within the law. And I won't hesitate to beat up on my competition, within the law.

You probably did not deserve all that but you are the one who called me a cheater. You should understand the mind set of a winner.

Rant. Rant. Rant.

Wanna bet the executives that sunk your company and left you unemployed were thinking they had to do it (to get their fat bonuses, but ALSO to) give the company "the best advantage you can."?

Btw, I (and some others) have not called you a cheater, we called you an exploiter. Big difference.

My last long Reply was not meant for you Andunedhel. It was to Conflict's Student, who wrote "you cheated" in their comment.

I think the community should be more angry with Pixonics who set the rules and enabled the "exploitation" rather than the players who played in the rules.

If teachers allowed open book exams as an option and students chose to use the open books but never learned the material, and could not get a job, who should you be mad with? The students because they "exploited" the rule? No. The community should be upset with Pixonics for not fixing the situation, or creating it in the first place.

It would be different if this were real life and people were really harmed in some way, then a moral obligation kicks in.

Results in life are often not fair and you need to learn how to work/fight through it. That is a good lesson.

I also would prefer to know where my skills stacked up with out having to be coddled by a handicapping system. i want to know if i beat one fo the top players i did it fair and square not because i had outrageous bot advantages due to handicapping. i also have both ios and android account i rarely play on ios and had played 2 games 1 week ago both losses withlevel 1 stock destrier hangers to check out the new matchmaking elo system.now a week later i just went back to check it out again i cant see much difference fromthe perspevtive of a destrier the opponents ahve gooten softer 7/7 heavy instead of 12/12 like last week but noting id call a ballenced match yet after half a dozen games.would be nice if the developers gave us an option to log into handicapped play or open play with tiers clearly defined im guesing 99% would choose the actual competition.

I actually agree with your premise (in a general sense).

However, in the same example, let's say the school finds that the job market stops hiring your students because their education is interior due to their testing practices. In turn they change the coursework to closed book exams. Now that the rules have changed do you (as the student) quit school because it's suddenly "harder" (arguably the same difficulty level as all other university students)? Do you whine because the "easy" mode testing is gone and you now "actually" have to learn the material?

Seems like that's your answer when we apply your metaphor to the current game changes and the reaction of clubbers to the leveling of the playing field.