Plasma vs. Hellfire Rhino

Plasma rhino offers more damage output over time. Potentially much more.

But I find it to not be a good 'solo' bot at all. (Maybe I'm using it wrong.) It shines as part of a team.

My kingdom for a reverse gear

I recently went from a db Griffin to pairing Aphids with my Orkans on the Griffin,  really like it!  
So much so I did the same to my Hellfire Rhino, too off the mags and added Aphids.  Still trying that out but I think I will like as well.
I am hooked on the Griffin, run 3 in my hanger!

The plasma rhino is a flanking bot, not a direct combat bot.

Here's a guide I made awhile ago.

warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:I%27mWithTheGuyWithTheShirtThatSaysI%27mWithStupid/PDB_rhino_guide

If you're playing the plasma and hellfire Rhino the same you're playing one of them wrong...

As you know the Rhino is a tough bot to play. The temptation is to charge in shield up, but that's generally a ticket to a quick, violent death. The tactic works, especially with pinatas/ Orks, but generally you'll kill only 1-2 bots that way before falling, particularly if you're up against another Orkan bot.

When you're less experienced killing 1-2 bots for the loss of one of your own sounds pretty good, but the stronger you get the less willing you'll be to make an equal trade. Plasma played from beyond Ork range offers an alternative. Rather than going head to head you'll generally play from the flanks- the covered bridge on Yamantau firing down towards the opposition's tame. The beacon sides on Shenzhen firing in towards center. Hull down behind the low berm near center on Canyons firing towards their beacon/ spawn. With all of these you're fighting shield down using cover- you're engaging at ranges and angles that make rocket shots difficult to land, and you're using the shield mainly to get into position quickly, not for cover. Don't charge in too far, and don't be afraid to run and live another day.

Used this way the Rhino will last much longer, at which point the higher DPM of the Plasma begins to tell. Towards the end of the Great Rhino Era more experienced pilots were statistically using more plasma than rockets for this reason. It was the best plasma platform of its time by some margin.

That said, since then quite a bit has changed, and the best plasma platform today is probably the Galahad. While the Rhino is more durable, able to survive 2x maxed Trident Fury vollies rather than 1 like the Galahad, in most cases it's not the weapon of choice. It's still strong in competent hands, however.

There is clearly a place for the Ork version- sometimes you need a bot that can charge straight in, and if that's the case it's the right tool for the job. However the above is why you'll see many suggesting Plasma.

Many are using Griffin in a similar role, obviously, and these days with the Griffin speed buff much less separates them than it once did.

There are still pluses and minuses to each, however. With the rhino's shield raised it does far better getting to some spots than a Griffin would (covered bridge on Yamantau under sniper fire, for example). The mobility and shield also let it advance on threats the Griffin wouldn't (i.e. Treb Fury or Zeus Carnage flankers on Canyons). On the other hand the Griffin, played smart, is much harder to hit with mid-range rockets. So they are not interchangeable in my opinion. YMMV...

DB For shield PDB for ancile hellfire for separated mag for ancile, orkan for shield

Ah, OK. Flanking that is what I do with Galahad. I tended to use Rhino as a PowerRunner/brickfighter taking beacons and over running choke points similar to what I used my Boa for, before I got the rhino. Normally, I just run it into he center beacon, take it and blow 1 or 2 bots up before it goes to the scrap heap.

The Rhino is sort of large and not terribly maneuverable for a flanker? I can see how the Galahad relegated it to second place for that role. I need to check youtube for how to play it.

I don't squad much but I got Golden Sabre back into my clan and we run well together, so maybe we'll both try plasma Rhinos when squadding.

Death Button Rhino is a suicide bot. You have get as many beacons and maim as much bots as possible before going down. The shield is for a speed boost and a last-second effort at wasting enemy time when you are almost dead.

Hellfire Rhino is the easiest bot to use. If you know there is not a lot of midrange, use the Hellfire Rhino to skirt around center to take any enemy bots down. The shield is a speed boost and an actual shield as magnums + shield goes up at 300-350m, and shield goes down in Orkan Range. By far the easiest Rhino setup to use.

Plasma Rhino is too situational to use with all shield bots around. I have never had any good plays with it and a Galahad is a better Plasma 'Rhino' because isn't such a big Orkan magnet.

I'm going to cast my vote for plasma Rhino, because that's the only one I have experience with. All my Orkans are on my DB Griff. I find my plasma Rhino can be VERY effective, but like others said, you have to be aware of the map and don't rush in too far too soon. Anywhere you go in a Rhino is a one-way trip. You can't retreat without turning around and exposing your sensitive parts.

I played the plasma rhino like a PDB Griffin and I sorta got it. Besides the DB set-up is way better on a Griffin and I don't have 2400Au spare to buy another pair of Orkans ATM.

I think a lot of it depends on your play style. I like to get in and mix it up. I'm not afraid to lose a bot for every couple of kills. Sure I mech out on occasion but I can still pull in one of the top slots even after meching out. For those reasons, I got rid of my plasma Rhinos for Plasma Galahads but I kept one Hellfire Rhino and one DB Rhino. For me, the Hellfire is the go to bot for capping the center beacon when everyone is too afraid of getting killed to cap it. I only drop my shield when needed and hopefully I can hold the beacon until the rest of the team can support the capture. Sure it may be a sacrifice but I can normally take a couple of bots down while grabbing the beacon. That being said, quickly becoming my favorite bot to liberate a beacon is the Lancelot with Orkans and an Ancile. Slow yes, but once your team mates see what you are doing, they normally join in.

Hes in the clan ' VOX' that must be where he got the 100%

Fury tridents kills shielded bots energy fujin comes in to join the party and taran. Oh alright alright he'll kill him ( reply of killing fujin before getting a chance ) just ofc if orks and tarans.