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Post by Joopiter on Nov 16, 2017 11:59:47 GMT -5
I'm betting the Haechi's will eventually be nerfed over time. It'll be slight adjustments since the people that spent $1000's don't feel completely screwed over. Eventually the attrition of new players will start to increase when they see how much it costs to be competitive as you move up in leagues. Most of us are stuck because we invested a lot of time and we thought $9.99 here and there for premium or for a little extra gold to get a lance was a bothersome but acceptable expense. At least I did. Now we're talking $100 x 2 to almost get enough components for one new top tier bot that still needs to be leveled and armed.
The numbers will eventually force them to just go out with a bang and ?grape? as many as possible quickly or make adjustments that retain new players. It's a pretty big long term money making opportunity if it's run right. Pixonic has got pretty shortsighted people running it, but that often changes when someone smart with a lot of capital gets involved.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 16, 2017 12:51:14 GMT -5
Its rock paper scissors there is a counter to to all bots. not it isn't (anymore) and there is not (unless you pay)
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 16, 2017 13:43:39 GMT -5
Haechi should have been balanced in line with Carnage in terms of HP, shield, and speed. They have comparable fire power and both have an in-built energy shield.
Of course it wasn't, because of the sheer greed $$$ of the developers. The consequence of this imbalance will be a long, long sequence of nerfs and buffs to many parts of the game. If there is even a willingness to balance it long term, that is.
BTW: EA has lowered the in-game prices for Star Wars Battlefront II pay-to-win gear by 75% after a huge outcry from the players. They weren't quite happy with paying $80 for Darth Vader. $80. Now it's $20. Just saying.
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Post by moflete on Nov 16, 2017 14:18:32 GMT -5
If they nerfed it more, the tsunami of refund claims from whales would flood Pix HQ. IMO, it would be great if they eliminated one dash ability. The double dash is simply ridiculous and one of its kind.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 17, 2017 2:06:23 GMT -5
If they nerfed it more, the tsunami of refund claims from whales would flood Pix HQ. IMO, it would be great if they eliminated one dash ability. The double dash is simply ridiculous and one of its kind. Claims based on what, exactly? Note the third paragraph in particular. Pixo could shutter the day after someone paid 10 grands and that someone would have no recourse. At all. Oh, and if you have a problem with that, you can totally discuss with pixonic, try to reach a pretrial agreement and, if not... " in case of failure to reach agreement during the pre-trial settlement of the dispute – in the court having jurisdiction at the location of Pixonic." In case, I'd suggest waiting until spring, Moskow can be a tad cold in winter.
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 17, 2017 2:34:15 GMT -5
So the Haechi is going to be nerfed. -%5 of speed. 5*45=225 225/100=2.25 As you can see the Haechi's speed get nerfed by 2.25 but on the test server, they nerfed it by 3. I want that 0.75 speed. What is your opinion on this matter? Your overreacting. The test server is running level 8 Haechi. That's why it's going at 41 kph.
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Post by Fry on Nov 17, 2017 3:10:00 GMT -5
So the Haechi is going to be nerfed. -%5 of speed. 5*45=225 225/100=2.25 As you can see the Haechi's speed get nerfed by 2.25 but on the test server, they nerfed it by 3. I want that 0.75 speed. What is your opinion on this matter? Your overreacting. The test server is running level 8 Haechi. That's why it's going at 41 kph. No, I don't, because the Haechi at level 8 has 44 KPH speed and with an upgrade, it gains 1 KPH more speed.Now on the test server, it has 41 KPH speed at level 8, with an upgrade it gains 1 KPH more speed which means 42 KPH.
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 17, 2017 4:34:48 GMT -5
Your overreacting. The test server is running level 8 Haechi. That's why it's going at 41 kph. No, I don't, because the Haechi at level 8 has 44 KPH speed and with an upgrade, it gains 1 KPH more speed.Now on the test server, it has 41 KPH speed at level 8, with an upgrade it gains 1 KPH more speed which means 42 KPH. Hm. My mistake. I've always thought 44 was its max for some reason. 42 is not bad. It's reasonable.
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Post by Fry on Nov 17, 2017 5:51:00 GMT -5
No, I don't, because the Haechi at level 8 has 44 KPH speed and with an upgrade, it gains 1 KPH more speed.Now on the test server, it has 41 KPH speed at level 8, with an upgrade it gains 1 KPH more speed which means 42 KPH. Hm. My mistake. I've always thought 44 was its max for some reason. 42 is not bad. It's reasonable. When the Haechi use its both dashes, it walks slowly like a turtle and the next dash is available after 12 seconds.Any strong opponent can kill it in that moment.
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Post by Fry on Nov 17, 2017 5:58:47 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't like any nerf to the Haechi, Because I paid 15k AU and 60k WSP.These amount of resources take 6 months to gather.
regardless of the Au that I spent to speed up the upgrade process.
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 17, 2017 6:25:14 GMT -5
Hm. My mistake. I've always thought 44 was its max for some reason. 42 is not bad. It's reasonable. When the Haechi use its both dashes, it walks slowly like a turtle and the next dash is available after 12 seconds.Any strong opponent can kill it in that moment. Really? It walks like a turtle? What does that make the Carnage at 40 kph and 20 sec cooldown. And the Griffin at 35 kph and 25 sec cooldown. 12 sec cooldown is peanuts. I mean, how much advantage do you want? You don't think it's overpowered at all? You're not the only one that spent that much. People has spent more with hard earned cash. And they still think the thing needs to get toned down. Your not the only one that has one, I have one, just about everyone has one now. It loses 3 kph and now it sucks, goodness.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 17, 2017 6:41:53 GMT -5
Hm. My mistake. I've always thought 44 was its max for some reason. 42 is not bad. It's reasonable. When the Haechi use its both dashes, it walks slowly like a turtle and the next dash is available after 12 seconds.Any strong opponent can kill it in that moment. A) you are supposed to plan your moves and stay under cover while your dash recoevr B) At walking speed, it still walks faster than all the heavies and half the medium bots. C) it gotta be terrible to sustain the idea that the most OP bot of the game may, in fact, have a 12 seconds window of vulnerability. Assuming there is an enemy in line of fire AND it can overcome the shield. How can one lives with that, I wonder?
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2017 8:14:00 GMT -5
Please use Griffin, then if you can tell me Griffin is better than Heachi facing a Zeus Fury. Oh, even in open map, Heachi can reach to a cover faster and better than a Griffin, jump is bad infront of Zeus. I canâ??t believe someone think just because Zeus and Shocktrain mean Heachi just like any other bot. Talk to the stats, only best of the best could reach 1m avg damage before Dash. However if you have full Dash now, you can reach 1m average 100 times easier. I do use griff's and everything else. You sound like a jealous ?female dog?. Its rock paper scissors there is a counter to to all bots. As far as damage if you play just for that then you are sad anyways. Maybe that is why the dash isn't so great to me as I do not just sit and use it for damage I try to win which means I need a variety to counter whatever bots I may encounter. Later dude. Running 5 Dash is 100 times easier to hit 1m avg damage compared to all other bots, you still called Rock Paper Scissors? If you cant get a good result with Dash, it just mean you are a bad Dash pilot. There are reasons people spend thousands $$ on these bots. If Dash aren’t the best, why would so many people run 4+ Dash (most of them got good win rate and avg dmg)? What platform and league are you in? Dash can’t make you a pro (sorry, $$ can’t buy you skill), if you are bad still bad. But it is still the best bot atm.
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Post by Fry on Nov 17, 2017 9:01:27 GMT -5
When the Haechi use its both dashes, it walks slowly like a turtle and the next dash is available after 12 seconds.Any strong opponent can kill it in that moment. Really? It walks like a turtle? What does that make the Carnage at 40 kph and 20 sec cooldown. And the Griffin at 35 kph and 25 sec cooldown. 12 sec cooldown is peanuts. I mean, how much advantage do you want? You don't think it's overpowered at all? You're not the only one that spent that much. People has spent more with hard earned cash. And they still think the thing needs to get toned down. Your not the only one that has one, I have one, just about everyone has one now. It loses 3 kph and now it sucks, goodness. Wow, are you comparing silver stuff with premium stuff?
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Post by moflete on Nov 17, 2017 10:38:36 GMT -5
If they nerfed it more, the tsunami of refund claims from whales would flood Pix HQ. IMO, it would be great if they eliminated one dash ability. The double dash is simply ridiculous and one of its kind. Claims based on what, exactly? Note the third paragraph in particular. Pixo could shutter the day after someone paid 10 grands and that someone would have no recourse. At all. Oh, and if you have a problem with that, you can totally discuss with pixonic, try to reach a pretrial agreement and, if not... " in case of failure to reach agreement during the pre-trial settlement of the dispute – in the court having jurisdiction at the location of Pixonic." In case, I'd suggest waiting until spring, Moskow can be a tad cold in winter. I am a lawyer myself, I am aware of this legal language. It is hard to tell the tone you wanted to give to your mail, but in any case I am not saying that players claiming for refunds will be successful, but those who feel they have been abused might take a shot. Additionally, I don't know in the jurisdiction governing these agreements, but in the jurisdiction I practice (and many others as well) there are several laws (consumers law and the like) and bookshelves full of judicial precedents protecting consumers against these typical pre-formulated compulsory agreements. Even if you have a right (as Pix has) to modify merchandise, such right must be exercised within certain reasonable parameters. I was applying this absolute common sense principle of law to War Robots, and stating that the new op and very expensive equipment might be nerfed gradually. If Pix does a sudden movement and materially nerfes it, then Pix's behavior may fall within abusive exercise of a right, even after you adhere to that beautiful paragraph you quote. I assume they have lawyers in the applicable jurisdiction to tell them this 1st year law-school advise. btw, Russia may be far for you and me as well, but the playerbase is worldwide so I am trying to opine with a full picture here.
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Post by Alpha on Nov 17, 2017 10:38:49 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't like any nerf to the Haechi, Because I paid 15k AU and 60k WSP.These amount of resources take 6 months to gather. regardless of the Au that I spent to speed up the upgrade process. Well it is been Nerfed and will be Nerfed again and for that reason alone i stayed away from buying / spending ANY resources on the bot.
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Post by moflete on Nov 17, 2017 10:49:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't like any nerf to the Haechi, Because I paid 15k AU and 60k WSP.These amount of resources take 6 months to gather. regardless of the Au that I spent to speed up the upgrade process. I understand you. Imagine the people that spent RM on it. But I think Haechi turned the game upside down, between that, the ember and most of all the altogether ridiculous shocktrain, now is like War Robots 2.0 v War Robots 1.0. IMHO, one thing is complaining due to the resources you spent for a product that now will be worsen. Another completely different thing is to argue whether haechi is OP or not.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 17, 2017 10:53:41 GMT -5
I do use griff's and everything else. You sound like a jealous ã??female dogã?. Its rock paper scissors there is a counter to to all bots. As far as damage if you play just for that then you are sad anyways. Maybe that is why the dash isn't so great to me as I do not just sit and use it for damage I try to win which means I need a variety to counter whatever bots I may encounter. Later dude. Running 5 Dash is 100 times easier to hit 1m avg damage compared to all other bots, you still called Rock Paper Scissors? If you cant get a good result with Dash, it just mean you are a bad Dash pilot. There are reasons people spend thousands $$ on these bots. If Dash arenâ??t the best, why would so many people run 4+ Dash (most of them got good win rate and avg dmg)? What platform and league are you in? Dash canâ??t make you a pro (sorry, $$ canâ??t buy you skill), if you are bad still bad. But it is still the best bot atm. I am on Android Champion and did not pay thousand for ?poo-poo?. I won them when they first hit in the first two days matter of fact. Unless you are running Shocktrains a hanger of dash bots is not all that great with the Meta out there bud. Lets see should we believe the guy who doesn't have a bunch of them or the guy who runs some of them on whether they die easy....... Like I also said before that your mind doesn't seam to comprehend I DO NOT run all dash bots its not smart as you will not win! I like to win not just be a damage ?hot stuff?. I die all the time knowing that I will to get beacons while other pussyfoot MoFos sit back and just go for damage. Go pound sand before you think you know me or how I play bro. On your way home mom says you need to get some milk before heading to the basement. How old are you anyway and you must be a great victim I bet you are a Liberal socialist huh. Done talking to the fool who knows it all even though he hasn't done it.
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2017 11:22:04 GMT -5
Running 5 Dash is 100 times easier to hit 1m avg damage compared to all other bots, you still called Rock Paper Scissors? If you cant get a good result with Dash, it just mean you are a bad Dash pilot. There are reasons people spend thousands $$ on these bots. If Dash arenâ??t the best, why would so many people run 4+ Dash (most of them got good win rate and avg dmg)? What platform and league are you in? Dash canâ??t make you a pro (sorry, $$ canâ??t buy you skill), if you are bad still bad. But it is still the best bot atm. I am on Android Champion and did not pay thousand for ?poo-poo?. I won them when they first hit in the first two days matter of fact. Unless you are running Shocktrains a hanger of dash bots is not all that great with the Meta out there bud. Lets see should we believe the guy who doesn't have a bunch of them or the guy who runs some of them on whether they die easy....... Like I also said before that your mind doesn't seam to comprehend I DO NOT run all dash bots its not smart as you will not win! I like to win not just be a damage ?hot stuff?. I die all the time knowing that I will to get beacons while other pussyfoot MoFos sit back and just go for damage. Go pound sand before you think you know me or how I play bro. On your way home mom says you need to get some milk before heading to the basement. How old are you anyway and you must be a great victim I bet you are a Liberal socialist huh. Done talking to the fool who knows it all even though he hasn't done it. Only dumb people run 4-5 not great Heachi and even some of them reach 1m Average damages with very high win rate. You are the smart one who can’t pilot a Heachi and says it suck ? you honestly need to learn to play. You suck at it doesn’t mean it suck. You can read this YouTuber opinions about Heachi. His opinions, it ruin the game.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 17, 2017 11:27:44 GMT -5
I am on Android Champion and did not pay thousand for ?poo-poo?. I won them when they first hit in the first two days matter of fact. Unless you are running Shocktrains a hanger of dash bots is not all that great with the Meta out there bud. Lets see should we believe the guy who doesn't have a bunch of them or the guy who runs some of them on whether they die easy....... Like I also said before that your mind doesn't seam to comprehend I DO NOT run all dash bots its not smart as you will not win! I like to win not just be a damage ?hot stuff?. I die all the time knowing that I will to get beacons while other pussyfoot MoFos sit back and just go for damage. Go pound sand before you think you know me or how I play bro. On your way home mom says you need to get some milk before heading to the basement. How old are you anyway and you must be a great victim I bet you are a Liberal socialist huh. Done talking to the fool who knows it all even though he hasn't done it. Only dumb people run 4-5 not great Heachi and even some of them reach 1m Average damages with very high win rate. You are the smart one who canât pilot a Heachi and says it suck ? you honestly need to learn to play. Yousuck at it doesnât mean it suck. Stop being a dumb 「bum-bum」. I am not running around with a maxed clan nor into DAMAGE as I keep telling you. You are seriously slow in the up take department. Now did you get mom her milk?
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2017 11:30:26 GMT -5
Only dumb people run 4-5 not great Heachi and even some of them reach 1m Average damages with very high win rate. You are the smart one who canâ??t pilot a Heachi and says it suck ð you honestly need to learn to play. Yousuck at it doesnâ??t mean it suck. Stop being a dumb ?bum-bum?. I am not running around with a maxed clan nor into DAMAGE as I keep telling you. You are seriously slow in the up take department. Now did you get mom her milk? Lol, you really so dumb? Can you even see a good Heachi? If you suck, that ok. Don’t blame the best bot. It is ok to be suck. you too dumb to figure out why top clan run most Dash bot.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 17, 2017 11:37:46 GMT -5
I am a lawyer myself, I am aware of this legal language. It is hard to tell the tone you wanted to give to your mail, but in any case I am not saying that players claiming for refunds will be successful, but those who feel they have been abused might take a shot. Additionally, I don't know in the jurisdiction governing these agreements, but in the jurisdiction I practice (and many others as well) there are several laws (consumers law and the like) and bookshelves full of judicial precedents protecting consumers against these typical pre-formulated compulsory agreements. Even if you have a right (as Pix has) to modify merchandise, such right must be exercised within certain reasonable parameters. I was applying this absolute common sense principle of law to War Robots, and stating that the new op and very expensive equipment might be nerfed gradually. If Pix does a sudden movement and materially nerfes it, then Pix's behavior may fall within abusive exercise of a right, even after you adhere to that beautiful paragraph you quote. I assume they have lawyers in the applicable jurisdiction to tell them this 1st year law-school advise. btw, Russia may be far for you and me as well, but the playerbase is worldwide so I am trying to opine with a full picture here. In the jurisdiction where any claim would be tried (Russia) there is minimal consumer protection legislation, and pretty new at that (2008, if i remember) and judicial precedents are not binding (this is true of all civil law countries, but particularly so in a federation). Also, I'm not exactly sure where pixonic is legally incorporated in Russia: one thing is Moskow or Saint Petersbourg, but the Russian Federation is a pretty large place and if, by any chance, the "location of Pixonic" is somewhere in Siberia, then you also have to take into consideration judicial corruption. Also, the very contractual good faith concept is pretty alien to what I remember of Russian civil law. And, of course, the cost of litigation for anyone not living in Russia would be exorbitant, making the whole proposition essentially moot. Just finding a correspondent lawyer in the jurisdiction the case will be tried could become insanely complicated (see above... ) and, assuming Pixonic would lose, the succumbent doesn't automatically pay for the winner's legal costs in Russia (and most civil law countries, actually), which could amount to many times the actual claim, making it a Pyrrhic victory at best. In effect, I've written my master thesis on teh hurdels Italian exporters face in Russia and litigation was their second worst nightmare after corruption and bribery at the customs. Yes, Pixonic could be thrown out from the android marketplace if google gets flooded by refund requests, but my impression is that, having been sold to mail.ru, Pixonic has been turned into an one hit wonder company, so the cost of such exclusion would be minimal. I didn't mean to strike any particular tone, just trying to explain that the idea of a massive wave of refunds requests is not going to be feasible, whatever Pixonic decides to do with its game.
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2017 11:46:47 GMT -5
Lol, you really so dumb? Can you even see a good Heachi? If you suck, that ok. Donât blame the best bot. It is ok to be suck. You must be 2 years old. Really how stupid are you to not comprehend anything I wrote yet keep running crap out of your piehole? Too bad we could not just meet as I would just pop you int the face and be done. See kid in my day we put up or shut up, you all now just hide behind keyboards. Anyhow assclown you have fun with your delusions of superiority, I am going to get back to work and check on my employees as I am done with my break. Please continue to post on and on about how much you know when you haven't done it. LATER 「bum-bum chapeau」. I thought you can come up something to prove me wrong or Dash is weak, and you think you are not hiding behind keyboard (can you be more dumb?) The best you can do just attack me even you donât know me? God bless your employees and your business. You too dumb to figure out top clan run mostly Dash, I am really doubt you can do anything good in real life. Good luck. Just check your recent post, you always attack people behind keyboard. Learn to be a nice person. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/user/7310/recent
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 17, 2017 12:53:30 GMT -5
When the Haechi use its both dashes, it walks slowly like a turtle and the next dash is available after 12 seconds.Any strong opponent can kill it in that moment. Really? It walks like a turtle? What does that make the Carnage at 40 kph and 20 sec cooldown. And the Griffin at 35 kph and 25 sec cooldown. 12 sec cooldown is peanuts. I mean, how much advantage do you want? You don't think it's overpowered at all? You're not the only one that spent that much. People has spent more with hard earned cash. And they still think the thing needs to get toned down. Your not the only one that has one, I have one, just about everyone has one now. It loses 3 kph and now it sucks, goodness. The same people that ran the Ancilot like it's the Titanic and can't sink are now running 5 Haechis and still suck at it
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2017 13:04:46 GMT -5
I thought you can come up something to prove me wrong or Dash is weak, and you think you are not hiding behind keyboard (can you be more dumb?) The best you can do just attack me even you don’t know me? God bless your employees and your business. You too dumb to figure out top clan run mostly Dash, I am really doubt you can do anything good in real life. Good luck. Just check your recent post, you always attack people behind keyboard. Learn to be a nice person. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/user/7310/recentI am not nice to those who keep insulting or insinuating I am lying. Go prong yourself twit. I never claimed to be nice I am fair and treat each person accordingly. Peace out, if you think Heachi suck, that fine.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Nov 17, 2017 13:07:09 GMT -5
Keep it friendly folks, even if someone doesn't hold the same opinion as you. We don't want to start bringing out hammers..
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Post by T34 on Nov 17, 2017 23:20:24 GMT -5
Claims based on what, exactly? Note the third paragraph in particular. Pixo could shutter the day after someone paid 10 grands and that someone would have no recourse. At all. Oh, and if you have a problem with that, you can totally discuss with pixonic, try to reach a pretrial agreement and, if not... " in case of failure to reach agreement during the pre-trial settlement of the dispute – in the court having jurisdiction at the location of Pixonic." In case, I'd suggest waiting until spring, Moskow can be a tad cold in winter. I am a lawyer myself, I am aware of this legal language. It is hard to tell the tone you wanted to give to your mail, but in any case I am not saying that players claiming for refunds will be successful, but those who feel they have been abused might take a shot. Additionally, I don't know in the jurisdiction governing these agreements, but in the jurisdiction I practice (and many others as well) there are several laws (consumers law and the like) and bookshelves full of judicial precedents protecting consumers against these typical pre-formulated compulsory agreements. Even if you have a right (as Pix has) to modify merchandise, such right must be exercised within certain reasonable parameters. I was applying this absolute common sense principle of law to War Robots, and stating that the new op and very expensive equipment might be nerfed gradually. If Pix does a sudden movement and materially nerfes it, then Pix's behavior may fall within abusive exercise of a right, even after you adhere to that beautiful paragraph you quote. I assume they have lawyers in the applicable jurisdiction to tell them this 1st year law-school advise. btw, Russia may be far for you and me as well, but the playerbase is worldwide so I am trying to opine with a full picture here. He is right. Numerous refunds have been offered by iTunes if they nerf gear too much. Plenty of examples in other games. If you pay $300 for a bot and they nerf the crap out of it of course u r entitled to a refund. It's a scam otherwise.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 18, 2017 2:27:03 GMT -5
That might have more to do with iTunes and their own contractual agreements with the developers than anything else. For android (which I should haveentioned, I was mostly commenting about) these are the refund rules: support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2479637?hl=enIf the purchase has been made more than 48 hours prior, they redirect you here: support.google.com/googleplay/answer/113418 where they pretty much say that all you can do is to leave a bad review for the game.
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Post by moflete on Nov 18, 2017 17:52:46 GMT -5
I am a lawyer myself, I am aware of this legal language. It is hard to tell the tone you wanted to give to your mail, but in any case I am not saying that players claiming for refunds will be successful, but those who feel they have been abused might take a shot. Additionally, I don't know in the jurisdiction governing these agreements, but in the jurisdiction I practice (and many others as well) there are several laws (consumers law and the like) and bookshelves full of judicial precedents protecting consumers against these typical pre-formulated compulsory agreements. Even if you have a right (as Pix has) to modify merchandise, such right must be exercised within certain reasonable parameters. I was applying this absolute common sense principle of law to War Robots, and stating that the new op and very expensive equipment might be nerfed gradually. If Pix does a sudden movement and materially nerfes it, then Pix's behavior may fall within abusive exercise of a right, even after you adhere to that beautiful paragraph you quote. I assume they have lawyers in the applicable jurisdiction to tell them this 1st year law-school advise. btw, Russia may be far for you and me as well, but the playerbase is worldwide so I am trying to opine with a full picture here. In the jurisdiction where any claim would be tried (Russia) there is minimal consumer protection legislation, and pretty new at that (2008, if i remember) and judicial precedents are not binding (this is true of all civil law countries, but particularly so in a federation). Also, I'm not exactly sure where pixonic is legally incorporated in Russia: one thing is Moskow or Saint Petersbourg, but the Russian Federation is a pretty large place and if, by any chance, the "location of Pixonic" is somewhere in Siberia, then you also have to take into consideration judicial corruption. Also, the very contractual good faith concept is pretty alien to what I remember of Russian civil law. And, of course, the cost of litigation for anyone not living in Russia would be exorbitant, making the whole proposition essentially moot. Just finding a correspondent lawyer in the jurisdiction the case will be tried could become insanely complicated (see above... ) and, assuming Pixonic would lose, the succumbent doesn't automatically pay for the winner's legal costs in Russia (and most civil law countries, actually), which could amount to many times the actual claim, making it a Pyrrhic victory at best. In effect, I've written my master thesis on teh hurdels Italian exporters face in Russia and litigation was their second worst nightmare after corruption and bribery at the customs. Yes, Pixonic could be thrown out from the android marketplace if google gets flooded by refund requests, but my impression is that, having been sold to mail.ru, Pixonic has been turned into an one hit wonder company, so the cost of such exclusion would be minimal. I didn't mean to strike any particular tone, just trying to explain that the idea of a massive wave of refunds requests is not going to be feasible, whatever Pixonic decides to do with its game.
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Post by moflete on Nov 18, 2017 17:59:55 GMT -5
Well you are making many assumptions on civil law systems such as mine that, at least here, are altogether wrong. I really hope you are lawyer or have a related degree, otherewise this thread does not make any sense at all, honestly. As you might also know, in general, consumer laws hold liable all the chain involved in the commercialization of the questionable product, so nothing prevents you in principle to sue distributors offering the product in their platforms such as itunes, playstore and the like. Another topic you ommit is the always challenging and unprecise wolrd of international private laws, which deal with cumbersome situations of applicable laws in different jurisdictions and systems. Why do you think all claims land on distributors?
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