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Post by Trogon on Jan 20, 2017 16:20:46 GMT -5
I agree with you, but try reading the other threads before starting your own talking about exactly the same thing.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 20, 2017 16:25:14 GMT -5
First of all, welcome to the forum! While it's probably fair to say we have a surplus of MM-grievance threads right now, I appreciate you sharing your opinion. Your post title reminds me of something I try and bear in mind when I'm confronted with a frustrating situation and imperfect knowledge. Like someone cutting me off on the freeway and speeding away. My kneejerk reaction is to think, "hey, what a jerk, where does he think he's going in a hurry?" What I don't know is why, I just fill in the blank with something easy. But for all I know, he could have a sick person in the car and they're going to the hospital. Or his mother just fell and needs him to come help. Could be a million good reasons, none of them evident. I guess that's the long way round of saying, I see a lot of players upset with the new MM change blaming it on "whiners." Is that something we know is a fact, or just a handy scapegoat? Another theory that's making the rounds is this is a move from Pixo to increase monetization. I definitely don't blame you for not wanting to slog through 80 matches in the hope it gets better.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 16:36:06 GMT -5
Did I tell you guys about my games yesterday? So awesome! I took my level 8 bots out for a spin and got placed with a bunch of destriers and cossaks. I think they were around level 2. Pew-pew-pew I went, and splat-splat-splat went they. It was epic. Also, i cut off some dork on my way to work today.
Sorry. i couldn't resist. I know I am not helping. I will go logout for a while.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 20, 2017 16:38:53 GMT -5
Did I tell you guys about my games yesterday? So awesome! I took my level 8 bots out for a spin and got placed with a bunch of destriers and cossaks. I think they were around level 2. Pew-pew-pew I went, and splat-splat-splat went they. It was epic. Also, i cut off some dork on my way to work today. Sorry. i couldn't resist. I know I am not helping. I will go logout for a while. Someone got ahold of the fermented bamboo juice today... |
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Post by lilryry on Jan 20, 2017 16:50:43 GMT -5
Yup, instead new ppl suffering through the beginning stage of getting killed by seal clubbers now everyone gets to experience being out matched
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Post by WE034 on Jan 20, 2017 16:53:16 GMT -5
Did I tell you guys about my games yesterday? So awesome! I took my level 8 bots out for a spin and got placed with a bunch of destriers and cossaks. I think they were around level 2. Pew-pew-pew I went, and splat-splat-splat went they. It was epic. Also, i cut off some dork on my way to work today. Sorry. i couldn't resist. I know I am not helping. I will go logout for a while. A hole!!!  you're the guy who got my pack of captains wafers that didn't drop from the vending machine too, aren't you!?! |
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Post by WE034 on Jan 20, 2017 17:01:02 GMT -5
I've read many complaints about seal clubbing on this board. I am new to the game and learned many tips on this forum. I 've played about 50 games so far and enjoyed it very much. I have 4 slots with 2 destriers and 2 cossacks all level 2 bots and level 4 gau punishers. I'm using this strategy to build my gold up for the the fifth spot/wsp bots and weapons. Even at that low tier every once I would have no chance at winning due mag gepards but I could live with that as part of the game. I have an 80 % win rate before MM change. After the change , played 8 games, instead of facing mag gepards ,now I'm facing Griffins, Lancelots, Stalkers and all kinds of robots with gold level weapons. One game I played ,someone had level 8 bots and level 10 weapons. I've been reduced to beacon capping(my only chance to make gold), sniping and hiding. I find it hard to believe this is a better MM system because hiding is no fun and I don't have the resources yet to field a competitive hanger. I 've read that it's going to take about 70 or 80 games for the MM to place you properly. I'm not sure I want to slog through not being competitive. Instead of getting torn up by mag gepards every once and a while, I'm getting torn up by gold bots/ weapons all the time. The enjoyment for the game is fading. I know this should be on the rant board but I want as many views and responses as possible. Sucks for the beat down mi amigo, but misery loves company; most everybody in this place has been getting beaten like a red headed stepchild the last couple days. I dropped into canyon with a hanger of lvl1/1 lights against 3-4 12/12 heavies. Strange to laugh at your own demise, but I just didn't know what else to do with it. As the players, play, and the numbers, crunch, and we all get sorted out, I hope it gets better. We got some good stories out of it. Stuff we wouldn't a heard otherwise under the old MM. I sure do hope you stick with it and find something worth staying in for the next hand. If not sit out a few and come back in a few days after the titans and heavy hitters have their place in the rankings sorted out. |
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Post by kchan4487 on Jan 20, 2017 17:42:41 GMT -5
Life is a wheel. Now it's your turn to whine. That's just the way it is.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 20, 2017 17:56:11 GMT -5
I've read many complaints about seal clubbing on this board. I am new to the game and learned many tips on this forum. I 've played about 50 games so far and enjoyed it very much. I have 4 slots with 2 destriers and 2 cossacks all level 2 bots and level 4 gau punishers. I'm using this strategy to build my gold up for the the fifth spot/wsp bots and weapons. Even at that low tier every once I would have no chance at winning due mag gepards but I could live with that as part of the game. I have an 80 % win rate before MM change. After the change , played 8 games, instead of facing mag gepards ,now I'm facing Griffins, Lancelots, Stalkers and all kinds of robots with gold level weapons. One game I played ,someone had level 8 bots and level 10 weapons. I've been reduced to beacon capping(my only chance to make gold), sniping and hiding. I find it hard to believe this is a better MM system because hiding is no fun and I don't have the resources yet to field a competitive hanger. I 've read that it's going to take about 70 or 80 games for the MM to place you properly. I'm not sure I want to slog through not being competitive. Instead of getting torn up by mag gepards every once and a while, I'm getting torn up by gold bots/ weapons all the time. The enjoyment for the game is fading. I know this should be on the rant board but I want as many views and responses as possible. Hang in there is the only thing I can tell you. I would imagine Pixo is gathering the data from matches and will be tweaking things after the MM settles down. Read through the other threads to see what pilots are reporting on when MM starts settling down....and then starts acting up again. Some are reporting better matches....others like yourself are not. I know I went through the same crap you experienced but MM settled down a bit for me as my win rate is below 60% now. I just resigned myself to getting beat down by superior bots and weps....and occasionally superior pilots. The big thing is don't take it personally when you get slaughtered by superior bots and weps - it is a just a crazy time right now. The game will/should get fun again with fairer competition. Cheers! |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jan 20, 2017 18:03:04 GMT -5
I am in your boat with you in the sense of getting repeatedly crushed these past days. It's been so-so with my 6/8 heavy lineup, and terrible with my mediums and lights. Luckily for me I had my insanity lineup, a challenge from my 9yo son, to fall back on:  With these guys, I still fight but the idea is just to relax and try and enjoy the destruction. I've won a few too but you can be sure that 4th was the highest I placed on damage! So maybe try some weird ideas that never make the cut because you know they're not optimal. It's worked for me so far. ? |
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Post by hulkz1 on Jan 20, 2017 18:29:58 GMT -5
Insanity hangar ....omg i should not have seen this. so many toys collecting rust in my collection....bwahahaha!
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Post by WE034 on Jan 20, 2017 18:43:29 GMT -5
Man I gotta say, I like the release of restriction now. I just got a game with all lvl 30s some better equipped than others, but those had lower stats. And, No top tier 12/12 heavies or old style bronze/silver guys. Overall, it was a great challenging match. Great tactics, cooperation, coverage, smart play, right up till the end. Good mix of beefed up mediums, Brit bots and WSP bots/weaps. No clubber hangers, or at least they weren't loaded out so. There was on guy from a clubber clan, but loaded for bear. This is what I rolled with and did okay. We won, but not by much and it went right up till the end.  |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 20, 2017 19:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by truechill on Jan 20, 2017 21:04:01 GMT -5
When other people are upset they are whiners. When I am upset it is a legitimate grievance.
If I can't maintain a 80-90 percent win rate by comfortably camping at the top of a low level tier then match making is obviously broken. You should feel sorry for me because I have to lose games for a week until Elo properly places me, even though I stomped for months.
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Post by lephturn on Jan 20, 2017 23:28:08 GMT -5
I've read many complaints about seal clubbing on this board. I am new to the game and learned many tips on this forum. I 've played about 50 games so far and enjoyed it very much. I have 4 slots with 2 destriers and 2 cossacks all level 2 bots and level 4 gau punishers. I'm using this strategy to build my gold up for the the fifth spot/wsp bots and weapons. Even at that low tier every once I would have no chance at winning due mag gepards but I could live with that as part of the game. I have an 80 % win rate before MM change. After the change , played 8 games, instead of facing mag gepards ,now I'm facing Griffins, Lancelots, Stalkers and all kinds of robots with gold level weapons. One game I played ,someone had level 8 bots and level 10 weapons. I've been reduced to beacon capping(my only chance to make gold), sniping and hiding. I find it hard to believe this is a better MM system because hiding is no fun and I don't have the resources yet to field a competitive hanger. I 've read that it's going to take about 70 or 80 games for the MM to place you properly. I'm not sure I want to slog through not being competitive. Instead of getting torn up by mag gepards every once and a while, I'm getting torn up by gold bots/ weapons all the time. The enjoyment for the game is fading. I know this should be on the rant board but I want as many views and responses as possible. What level are you? im starting to suspect being 30 instantly punts you up pretty high. |
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Post by lilryry on Jan 20, 2017 23:37:10 GMT -5
Honest question, how many of the people complaining about clubbing were actually the ones getting clubbed? Seems to me most noobs dont post on these boards so a lot of the complaints were more just people pissed that people found away to farm resources without being max level...
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Post by [ധ¡к¡] oDDD on Jan 20, 2017 23:44:19 GMT -5
Honest question, how many of the people complaining about clubbing were actually the ones getting clubbed? Seems to me most noobs dont post on these boards so a lot of the complaints were more just people pissed that people found away to farm resources without being max level... When the new player base is repeatedly and unmercifully harassed by said setups, that is bad for the health of the game. Drive away all the new players, no micro transactions, game closes for good. This was more of a concern to those on the forum I believe as MOST well known formers are out of the clubbers tier and we're more concerned for the health of the game they love. |
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Post by lilryry on Jan 20, 2017 23:53:03 GMT -5
Honest question, how many of the people complaining about clubbing were actually the ones getting clubbed? Seems to me most noobs dont post on these boards so a lot of the complaints were more just people pissed that people found away to farm resources without being max level... When the new player base is repeatedly and unmercifully harassed by said setups, that is bad for the health of the game. Drive away all the new players, no micro transactions, game closes for good. This was more of a concern to those on the forum I believe as MOST well known formers are out of the clubbers tier and we're more concerned for the health of the game they love. Clubbing seems so insignificant though, I was past the getting clubbed stage in 3 days to the point I could normally be top damage |
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 21, 2017 0:10:56 GMT -5
Honest question, how many of the people complaining about clubbing were actually the ones getting clubbed? Seems to me most noobs dont post on these boards so a lot of the complaints were more just people pissed that people found away to farm resources without being max level... When the new player base is repeatedly and unmercifully harassed by said setups, that is bad for the health of the game. Drive away all the new players, no micro transactions, game closes for good. This was more of a concern to those on the forum I believe as MOST well known formers are out of the clubbers tier and we're more concerned for the health of the game they love. Yeah but I don't know if this new solution is any better for the health of the game. the complaints are wide spread across all player types with only a few posting praise...as others have said, how much patience can you have while the game gyrates around? A low level pilot getting clubbed by mag geps or by 12/12 pilots is no different - they both lead to bad outcomes....but now the low level pilots being clubbed aren't only noobs but experienced lvl 30 with less than 12/12 hangers. They had escaped the "clubbers" but now the unwitting clubbers in the game are max pilots....except even these max pilots are getting tired of bad matches. And no one has any idea of what the future state looks like as the devs are staying silent. It just seems like we are on a downward spiral with only a few glimpses of positives. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 21, 2017 3:09:52 GMT -5
now the low level pilots being clubbed aren't only noobs but experienced lvl 30 with less than 12/12 hangers. They had escaped the "clubbers" but now the unwitting clubbers in the game are max pilots....except even these max pilots are getting tired of bad matches. And no one has any idea of what the future state looks like as the devs are staying silent. It just seems like we are on a downward spiral with only a few glimpses of positives. this completely sums up the state of the game right now... unfortunately due to pixonic stuffing around with so many different things instead of putting time and effort into producing quality aspects of the game, i have lost the large majority of my interest in this game. I do hope for things to change for the better down the track, but honestly I just can't see where pixonic is taking the game right now. |
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Post by Heishiro on Jan 21, 2017 6:52:40 GMT -5
ok this is a sign.. when an avid player said, i have a lot of my friends quitting this game as we speak  |
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Post by forestwalker on Jan 21, 2017 8:39:31 GMT -5
If you have spent money on the game and you are unhappy with the recent changes. Ask Apple for a refund. Many are already receiving them . The only thing this new match maker has done is pissed off all the High Silver players, to prove a point they are becoming clobbers. Not everyone that ran mag geps were clobbers but we all get lumped into the term. So as usual the cure is worse than he sickness. Now you have many many more clobbers with no limits to what they can run because they know the flaw in pix MM. I used to hunt clubbers now, to prove a point I will club all seals. Wait till your Cossacks and destrier run into my 12/12 lance. Don't run there is no escape. Thank pix for this.
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Post by forestwalker on Jan 21, 2017 8:40:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 8:47:36 GMT -5
$419...seriously, for a free to play game...
Mind paying my student loan bill, I'll dance.
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Post by Heishiro on Jan 21, 2017 8:49:24 GMT -5
Wow.. this is a very bad new for PX..
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Post by lilryry on Jan 21, 2017 9:00:49 GMT -5
Game is unplayable in its current form, I'm less than 2 weeks into this game and was never clubbed until the new mm, now every match I'm out gear by several levels in both weapons and bots...very happy I've only spent $5 as I was considering $50 for the 5th hanger slot
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Post by forestwalker on Jan 21, 2017 9:11:59 GMT -5
I would like to say that when pix pulls their head out of their forth point of contact, the clubbers will go away. But let's face it there will always be some clubbers. I can only speak for the ones I'm in contact with. If you have a problem getting clubbed complain to Pix. Complaints brought about this problem, complaints are the only things that are going to fix it. Pix is loosing a lot of Money right now, I would expect a patch soon. Until then.....  |
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Post by forestwalker on Jan 21, 2017 9:12:40 GMT -5
And no I do not have guilt or shame
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Post by ivx on Jan 21, 2017 10:06:44 GMT -5
If you have spent money on the game and you are unhappy with the recent changes. Ask Apple for a refund. Many are already receiving them . The only thing this new match maker has done is pissed off all the High Silver players, to prove a point they are becoming clobbers. Not everyone that ran mag geps were clobbers but we all get lumped into the term. So as usual the cure is worse than he sickness. Now you have many many more clobbers with no limits to what they can run because they know the flaw in pix MM. I used to hunt clubbers now, to prove a point I will club all seals. Wait till your Cossacks and destrier run into my 12/12 lance. Don't run there is no escape. Thank pix for this. ... and well done on getting a refund. I personally won't be requesting one because I'm hoping they pull their heads out of their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 and get real, but I can definitely relate. |
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Post by forestwalker on Jan 21, 2017 10:07:39 GMT -5
Not my refund but a clan mate. I have only spent $20
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you're the guy who got my pack of captains wafers that didn't drop from the vending machine too, aren't you!?!
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