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Post by FlashAhAhh on Oct 14, 2017 16:07:36 GMT -5
So I went to turn target switching on in settings on the test server and saw this.  Sorry about the volume slider but its the agreements button that's new. Here is where it links you. pixonic.com/en/?terms |
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Post by Replicant on Oct 14, 2017 16:35:28 GMT -5
My Favorite Part:
"Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights."
The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots.
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Post by threl on Oct 14, 2017 16:37:04 GMT -5
“You will not disrupt or attempt to disrupt the Service or any other person’s use or enjoyment of the Service;”
Oh no! Pixonic’s servers are going to get banned now! Is this the end of War Robots?
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Post by jckidd on Oct 14, 2017 16:38:20 GMT -5
Just... wow
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Post by threl on Oct 14, 2017 16:39:45 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. The possibility I’m most afraid of is the introduction of a paid sixth slot. I’m relatively optimistic compared to some people here; I generally enjoy the game and I probably won’t be quitting anytime soon, but if that were to happen, I would immediately delete the app. |
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Post by Replicant on Oct 14, 2017 16:54:59 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. The possibility I’m most afraid of is the introduction of a paid sixth slot. I’m relatively optimistic compared to some people here; I generally enjoy the game and I probably won’t be quitting anytime soon, but if that were to happen, I would immediately delete the app. I wouldn't mind seeing more slots, but with a hard cap on the number of bots you could spawn at 4-5. |
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Post by threl on Oct 14, 2017 16:58:54 GMT -5
Mordacai, that’s a good point. Come to think it, I would totally be supportive if they introduced a monetized sixth slot but with a five cap.
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Post by roadbot on Oct 14, 2017 17:02:58 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Oct 14, 2017 17:19:21 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly. Thats worst |
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 14, 2017 19:27:01 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. The possibility I’m most afraid of is the introduction of a paid sixth slot. I’m relatively optimistic compared to some people here; I generally enjoy the game and I probably won’t be quitting anytime soon, but if that were to happen, I would immediately delete the app. I wouldn't mind seeing more slots, but with a hard cap on the number of bots you could spawn at 4-5. I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something? What does that part of Pixonic statement have to do with slots? |
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Post by Replicant on Oct 14, 2017 19:38:11 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. I wouldn't mind seeing more slots, but with a hard cap on the number of bots you could spawn at 4-5. I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something? What does that part of Pixonic statement have to do with slots? Someone whose trying to decide between buying a K-bot vs. buying a 5th slot and some gold weapons might want to keep in mind that the K-bot is nerf-bait. When the inevitable nerf bat comes down on the K-bot clan, asking for a refund won't be much of an option as their new ToS tells you to go pound sand. The 5th slot will hold its value better. |
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Post by threl on Oct 14, 2017 19:41:08 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. I wouldn't mind seeing more slots, but with a hard cap on the number of bots you could spawn at 4-5. I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something? What does that part of Pixonic statement have to do with slots? Pixo’s TOS has nothing about a sixth slot, don’t worry. Just wandered a bit off-topic. |
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Post by T34 on Oct 14, 2017 20:26:13 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly. Where did you hear that from? That would be pay 2 play just like vega conflict where a player has to wait a week for the fleet to be repaired after a 3 min battle. Unless they pay money that is. That I definitely would not put up with. |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Oct 14, 2017 23:59:54 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly. That would potentially kill the game for good. Not enough players are fuel expended. |
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Post by LunaticSynapse on Oct 15, 2017 8:51:58 GMT -5
That would potentially kill the game for good. Not enough players are fuel expended. Fuel or Energy = R.I.P. War Robots Yeah that would get me to quit for sure. Only redeeming factor so far with all the drama is that I can play as much as I want. Adding fuel would be the end for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 15:02:27 GMT -5
That would potentially kill the game for good. Not enough players are fuel expended. Fuel or Energy = R.I.P. War Robots ^ Every server will look like FBGR, except champs in ios/android are actually competent. 30 second wait time: 4 champs, 1 diamond, 2 gold, 1 silver, 4 Bronze. Well, a bunch of people suggested premium should be more than just measly Ag boost. With that you'll get 150% Fuel too!  That will kill sandbagging too! |
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Post by javelinaut717 on Oct 15, 2017 15:10:58 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly. That would potentially kill the game for good. Not enough players are fuel expended. Of cuz not they're not gonna do refuel thingy, but if adding as for extra repair bill?  |
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Post by anapolon22 on Oct 15, 2017 20:49:54 GMT -5
Fuel or Energy = R.I.P. War Robots ^ Every server will look like FBGR, except champs in ios/android are actually competent. 30 second wait time: 4 champs, 1 diamond, 2 gold, 1 silver, 4 Bronze. Well, a bunch of people suggested premium should be more than just measly Ag boost. With that you'll get 150% Fuel too! That will kill sandbagging too! I'm 7500+ Legendary Pilot and wait for about 5-7min to join battle. After 1am i can't join a battle at all. Is all ready happening. Before 5m my que same Legendary Pilot was 20 sec max. If they don't pull some from his gloves, this game is gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:29:42 GMT -5
If our type gambling is illegal in your state/country, or if you are not old enough to gamble, leave immediately.
If you feel ripped by any of your purchases,or feel/think that our practices are unethical or unlawful in your country/state, you are legally liable for breaking said laws for continuing to use our service.(「fluffernutter」 yo laws, we do what we want).
BUGS? BUGS?
BUY DAMMIT. BUY NOW. BUGS BE DAMNED.
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 15, 2017 23:35:11 GMT -5
I heard they might be considering a system of "fuel" where after you play some bots you have to wait a certain amount of time for it to refuel, or you can pay for it to refuel instantly. That is a little too much... I'm pretty sure 10 mins won't make your bot "run out of fuel".. LOL |
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 15, 2017 23:37:00 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the following line is to prevent "unethical abuse" of in-game content..
"Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights."
Anyhoos, they're really not doing themselves a favour...
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Post by frunobulax on Oct 16, 2017 7:13:01 GMT -5
Just hiding some contractual stuff there means nothing. At least here in Germany, if a company wants to add valid conditions to a contract they have to make sure that the user knows about them (like, on a website he has to click a button that he has read and agreed to the terms and conditions of the contract). And even then, conditions can be considered invalid in court if they are "surprising", i.e. something the user does not expect. Replicant pointed it out, essentially Pixo thinks they can remove Dash bots, Inquisitor and all after taking our money for them without paying back a dime. Also, "YOU [...] WARRANT THAT YOU ARE LAWFULLY ABLE TO BE BOUND BY THESE TERMS OF SERVICE" is hilarious. The whole point of not having full legal capacity (minors, but also people with mental disabilities) is that you can't enter binding contracts, i.e. those people can't "warrant" anything. But, I have to say this is a very interesting insight into how Pixo thinks. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Oct 16, 2017 13:39:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the following line is to prevent "unethical abuse" of in-game content.. "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." Anyhoos, they're really not doing themselves a favour... I would say after the rat basdards who maxed their credit card for game content, with the full intention to get a refund and keep the loot, was the reason. They can take back the content on a refund now. Or cancel the account with legal backing. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Oct 16, 2017 14:50:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the following line is to prevent "unethical abuse" of in-game content.. "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." Anyhoos, they're really not doing themselves a favour... I would say after the rat basdards who maxed their credit card for game content, with the full intention to get a refund and keep the loot, was the reason. They can take back the content on a refund now. Or cancel the account with legal backing. This. also: -You will not disrupt or attempt to disrupt the Service or any other personâs use or enjoyment of the Service; 「fluffernutter」 you to the tankers? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:53:46 GMT -5
I would say after the rat basdards who maxed their credit card for game content, with the full intention to get a refund and keep the loot, was the reason. They can take back the content on a refund now. Or cancel the account with legal backing. This. also: -You will not disrupt or attempt to disrupt the Service or any other person’s use or enjoyment of the Service; ?firetruck? you to the tankers? We'll find out when we start seeing outcries on reddit/FB from people getting "mysteriously" banned ,from people other than "buy, refund, buy" arseholes. I saw a G-play review of someone saying they were banned for being "too good" at the game. We all know that doesn't happen outside of TT or Tanking, so, -shrug- |
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Post by amidf on Oct 16, 2017 19:18:14 GMT -5
I couldn’t hear any of the OP’s post, and when I tried turning up the volume, the slider wouldn’t budge.
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 16, 2017 22:04:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the following line is to prevent "unethical abuse" of in-game content.. "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." Anyhoos, they're really not doing themselves a favour... I would say after the rat basdards who maxed their credit card for game content, with the full intention to get a refund and keep the loot, was the reason. They can take back the content on a refund now. Or cancel the account with legal backing. Mm hmm ~ pretty much the case. But still unsure on disclosure of account information to Pix themselves. Just a theory, and bear in mind that you CAN use another iTunes account ("ITA") to be paying for the signed-in Game Centre ID ("GCI"). Example I borrow my friends phone, sure his phone is signed in with his own Apple ID, but I can seperately log in to War Robots with my own GCI. 1) Rat「illegitimate child」 makes a $100 transaction using his ITA, but for a hangar with another GCI. 2) Rat「illegitimate child」 makes a refund on his ITA. 3) Now the items gained will be for that GCI, but Pix is unable to trace which GCI the purchase was made for. Even if they are able to trace Rat「illegitimate child」's ITA that made the purchase, but there could be many people whose GCI have the same loots, if they were to take back the content, they might just take from a real innocent party. Just saying. It's pretty hard to explain in words..... LOL those who get it, thanks. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Oct 16, 2017 22:53:56 GMT -5
Hmmm, I wonder if this is in response to me informing them that there are no binding obligations between users and Pixonic when it comes to disclosure of my own personal messages to them and their reps replies? Because they tried lying to me and actually told me that if I disclosed any of the correspondence between myself and their reps that it would be "a failure to comply with our non-dislosure agreement between the players and Pixonic Inc." and that I would be liable in a legal suit. What a joke that was. I did it right here and on FaceBook anyways knowing full well they were full of sh*t.
I also pointed out that not one player has ever agreed to diddly squat concerning non-disclosure agreements, account swapping and selling, multiple accounts(of which I own a few), or age limitations.
This looks like a direct response to each point that I made with them with a few more details added.
It's still a joke. More than 90% of their little afterthought is un-enforcable in most courts around the world concerning anything outside of their intellectual property rights.
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Post by nerdatron on Oct 19, 2017 14:50:17 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. Hate to point out what should be obvious but this clause pretty much exists on every TOC/TOS for just about any app or game out there. Its worded almost exactly the same everywhere. Same with them not being liable for this or that etc. Its all pretty common. |
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Post by Replicant on Oct 19, 2017 15:00:29 GMT -5
My Favorite Part: "Pixonic may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate In-Service Content and/or Merchandise at any time, with or without notice. Pixonic shall have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Pixonic exercises any such rights." The best reason for slots > bots? Harder to nerf Slots. Hate to point out what should be obvious but this clause pretty much exists on every TOC/TOS for just about any app or game out there. Its worded almost exactly the same everywhere. Same with them not being liable for this or that etc. Its all pretty common. Sure its boiler-plate. Boiler-plate exists for a reason. Point is its only recently that that reason existed for War Robots, and its only recently that Pixonic has made any effort to make that boiler-plate visible. |
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