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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 9, 2017 15:27:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kanshou on Oct 9, 2017 15:36:02 GMT -5
Sadly, they're not the only ones. I don't see any prevalent Dashes in their hangars so they must have had their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 kicked in the top tier by clans with full Dash hangars. I guess they just got tired of getting owned in 3 minutes.
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Post by zer00eyz on Oct 9, 2017 15:42:36 GMT -5
Sadly, they're not the only ones. I don't see any prevalent Dashes in their hangars so they must have had their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 kicked in the top tier by clans with full Dash hangars. I guess they just got tired of getting owned in 3 minutes. LOL -- hey you know what --- broken dashes are going to cause more of this as everyone starts to move around for fair fights
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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 9, 2017 15:46:34 GMT -5
Sadly, they're not the only ones. I don't see any prevalent Dashes in their hangars so they must have had their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 kicked in the top tier by clans with full Dash hangars. I guess they just got tired of getting owned in 3 minutes. LOL -- hey you know what --- broken dashes are going to cause more of this as everyone starts to move around for fair fights Like I was saying: this will destroy the game if the MM won't be changed back to hangar based system. We not only will have to deal with seal clubbing, we also will have, as a bonus, face dash bots in bronze and silver. Great!
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Post by zer00eyz on Oct 9, 2017 15:56:38 GMT -5
LOL -- hey you know what --- broken dashes are going to cause more of this as everyone starts to move around for fair fights Like I was saying: this will destroy the game if the MM won't be changed back to hangar based system. We not only will have to deal with seal clubbing, we also will have, as a bonus, face dash bots in bronze and silver. Great! Lets put a sharper edge on this -- it isn't any one of these things, alone they would be OK -- all of them together make for a disaster an MM that wasn't so messed up would NOT have these issues, over powered bots, not as many issues ... add them all up (there are more) and you have a major problem.
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Post by Estoplast on Oct 9, 2017 15:59:57 GMT -5
I have a hobby in War Robots. When i see a tanker i take a screenshot. I have more than a hundred of them. Maybe even hundreds, haven't really counted them...
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Post by fvckpixo on Oct 9, 2017 16:20:30 GMT -5
Unfortunately, these poor guys from SOS don’t have another option, because these idiots especially from CDxx and Cartel but also from Vice and Noob are supporting pixo‘s gambling where they can. They also claim being part of the boycott, but in fact they aren’t, they wouldn’t use/buy dashes otherwise!
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Post by T34 on Oct 9, 2017 16:28:40 GMT -5
Sadly, they're not the only ones. I don't see any prevalent Dashes in their hangars so they must have had their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 kicked in the top tier by clans with full Dash hangars. I guess they just got tired of getting owned in 3 minutes. LOL -- hey you know what --- broken dashes are going to cause more of this as everyone starts to move around for fair fights Exactly.
And there is nothing wrong with people moving around to get fairer fights! People will do it across the leagues soon.
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Post by H1151 on Oct 9, 2017 16:38:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately, these poor guys from SOS don’t have another option, because these idiots especially from CDxx and Cartel but also from Vice and Noob are supporting pixo‘s gambling where they can. They also claim being part of the boycott, but in fact they aren’t, they wouldn’t use/buy dashes otherwise! ...and that’s why they had to tank all the way down to Silver to beat the snot out of the new players, who have absolutely no chance against them, and who are in no way responsible of all the poo that’s going on in War Robots? Poor guys from SOS indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 16:44:29 GMT -5
LOL -- hey you know what --- broken dashes are going to cause more of this as everyone starts to move around for fair fights Exactly.
And there is nothing wrong with people moving around to get fairer fights! People will do it across the leagues soon.
It is a daily occurrence now. I see it as a further example of the Leagues being all but meaningless.
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Post by T34 on Oct 9, 2017 18:45:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately, these poor guys from SOS don’t have another option, because these idiots especially from CDxx and Cartel but also from Vice and Noob are supporting pixo‘s gambling where they can. They also claim being part of the boycott, but in fact they aren’t, they wouldn’t use/buy dashes otherwise! ...and that’s why they had to tank all the way down to Silver to beat the snot out of the new players, who have absolutely no chance against them, and who are in no way responsible of all the poo that’s going on in War Robots? Poor guys from SOS indeed. Maybe they found a good way to drop down on mass without wasting time. Now they have week or two of play to get back to diamond 2.
But silver or gold or whatever makes little difference. This will be the norm soon and I've been saying it for a while now. Issue is that some will pull out their 12/12 old gear and than the others respond in kind and there goes the league system. the 12/12 Haechies will follow soon too so they can continue their clubbing.
the OP bots must be balanced. there is no other solution that I can see.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Oct 9, 2017 19:11:32 GMT -5
Let these panty wastes run into a full squad of Mech Mercenaries. We will gladly distribute payback for all the noobs these fairies whip up on in the lower leagues. These types really tick me off.
To their victims I say keep hammering, keep upgrading and give em hell as best you can. Be among those they remember not to f*@k with, that remind them it's time to start tanking again, cuz the competition is getting too rough.
Also, allow me to propose a simple fix for the majority of these weasels (no offense to weasels).
No battle reward for players who drop more than 1 full league rank below their maximum rating. For example, max rank of Master 3 drops below Expert 3 gets no battle reward til they get back to Expert 3. No silver, no gold, no keys. ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA, except for League points so they can climb back to the ranks they belong in.
I believe this would remove the motivation (greed for easy currency) for the majority of the T/C (tanker/clubber) crowd. Yes, sadly there are those who just do it for the lulz, but if that's what they're after, lulz is all they should get. This system also accounts for the normal ups and downs we all experience as we climb the League ladder.
Please feel free to copy and paste this solution to an email to Pixonic. I think it be easy to implement, and would of course be subject to tweaking. It's not a perfect solution, but it'd be a step toward doing something meaningful about the T/C cycle. Those doing it for the lulz would be easy to spot and report, and if Pixonic is sincere about stopping this behavior, they could handle them appropriately.
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Post by crazynutz on Oct 9, 2017 19:41:27 GMT -5
Grow a set and stop crying.
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Post by threl on Oct 9, 2017 20:20:09 GMT -5
I was briefly a member of SOS for a few minutes. Left immediately after I saw the Ancilots in Bronze league
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Oct 9, 2017 20:20:26 GMT -5
Grow a set and stop crying. While I share this sentiment in cases of OP whininess, T/C is a real problem that needs a real solution. Context, man. Context.
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Post by threl on Oct 9, 2017 21:11:09 GMT -5
Let these panty wastes run into a full squad of Mech Mercenaries. We will gladly distribute payback for all the noobs these fairies whip up on in the lower leagues. These types really tick me off. To their victims I say keep hammering, keep upgrading and give em hell as best you can. Be among those they remember not to f*@k with, that remind them it's time to start tanking again, cuz the competition is getting too rough. Also, allow me to propose a simple fix for the majority of these weasels (no offense to weasels). No battle reward for players who drop more than 1 full league rank below their maximum rating. For example, max rank of Master 3 drops below Expert 3 gets no battle reward til they get back to Expert 3. No silver, no gold, no keys. ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA, except for League points so they can climb back to the ranks they belong in. I believe this would remove the motivation (greed for easy currency) for the majority of the T/C (tanker/clubber) crowd. Yes, sadly there are those who just do it for the lulz, but if that's what they're after, lulz is all they should get. This system also accounts for the normal ups and downs we all experience as we climb the League ladder. Please feel free to copy and paste this solution to an email to Pixonic. I think it be easy to implement, and would of course be subject to tweaking. It's not a perfect solution, but it'd be a step toward doing something meaningful about the T/C cycle. Those doing it for the lulz would be easy to spot and report, and if Pixonic is sincere about stopping this behavior, they could handle them appropriately. My biggest qualm with this is that it would stop dropping leagues not to club but to play competitively with more fun, albeit not as effective hangars. That rabbit guy (forgot your name sorry) has made a ton of interesting posts about this. I've sometimes considered it myself, as tragically I began playing seriously long after the era of the Death Ostrich.
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 9, 2017 22:29:12 GMT -5
Yeah many other "top" clans as well. Tanking/fading in matches.
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Post by T34 on Oct 9, 2017 22:38:00 GMT -5
Pix needs to balance the top end or the mid leagues will become a battle ground for the veterans with older gear and chase off the new players.
This is a complex ecosystem an i'd bet Pix didn't consider this to be one of the side effects of introducing excessively priced OP content at the top.
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Post by GHOST ina SHELL on Oct 9, 2017 22:43:32 GMT -5
Someone educate me, please. Tanking VS Fading
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 9, 2017 22:47:34 GMT -5
Someone educate me, please. Tanking VS Fading In my own understanding, Tanking can be in squads or by themselves. Not dropping mechs or popping out of 4 bots and suicide their last bot. Fading is simply dropping one bot in a match, kiss the reds a little bit (30k damage in total for example) and just wait out the match. Not sure if this is the exact/correct explanation, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you very much.
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Post by imnobody on Oct 9, 2017 22:55:58 GMT -5
I'm uninstalling this game when BoT get release on window and Android. Tired of the unfair match play. Got fed up with the last match had two guys on my team only had 4 hangar. The match isn't broken it intentionally there for a reason.
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Post by GHOST ina SHELL on Oct 9, 2017 23:16:20 GMT -5
Someone educate me, please. Tanking VS Fading In my own understanding, Tanking can be in squads or by themselves. Not dropping mechs or popping out of 4 bots and suicide their last bot. Fading is simply dropping one bot in a match, kiss the reds a little bit (30k damage in total for example) and just wait out the match. Not sure if this is the exact/correct explanation, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you very much. Hmm, those both seem terribly inefficient, 'working hard at not working'. Thanks for the explanation WilsonK!
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Post by moses on Oct 10, 2017 0:38:30 GMT -5
Pix needs to balance the top end or the mid leagues will become a battle ground for the veterans with older gear and chase off the new players. This is a complex ecosystem an i'd bet Pix didn't consider this to be one of the side effects of introducing excessively priced OP content at the top. If the league system actually worked properly (gave matches where all players were in a narrow spread of league points not thousands of points in each direction) this would actually solve the issue as it would just lead to a stratified champions league where all the supposed OP hangars trend to the top and play amongst themselves and the stAndard maxed hangars and good players would be in lower champions / masters. Actually making formal two tiered champions might help too - resetting to 5000 and 7000 points each league. This would keep more separation from the high point champions and the guys on the border.
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Post by weaksauce on Oct 10, 2017 1:32:31 GMT -5
I believe the current ranked #1 clan is predominantly silver league with a sprinkle of gold. I thought I read somewhere that tankers drop into a "leavers league". So that they fight other tankers. I'm guessing, based on the OP and others comments, that this is not the case, nonfnctional, or people know how to get around it, and the tankers continue in regular league matches. If the leavers league system worked it would somewhat help, as nobody would ever see them. Not sure why matches are not based on hanger values.
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Post by ma'ElKoth on Oct 10, 2017 1:49:05 GMT -5
What drives me even more nuts is the fact that if you care to report a full, 6 player squad, all from the same clan, that have manipulated their league scores without the slightest doubt, you get a template response from Pix that tells you they have LQ and if these players are not there yet, they have not done it for a sufficient long time. Hell, all - and that includes Pix - knows there are ways to do it that will not trigger their LQ algorithm.
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Post by K A Z on Oct 10, 2017 3:03:39 GMT -5
Someone educate me, please. Tanking VS Fading Tanking is controlled skipping matches, jumping bots and using 1, leaving after given time, etc. In other words - selective, controlled skipping matches using ways to avoid LQ. Fading is using 「dookie」ty gear or using gear in a way to inflict next to no damage by shooting everything except red bots, taking a nap during the game, etc. In other words - playing way below performance level the available gear and experience would allow. Both aim at same thing - dropping the leagues. I would not be too harsh on those guys though - after all their clan name explicitly states that they need help...badly lol And again as it was shouted many times on forums: yes, those guys are 「multiple bum-bums」, but the true problem comes from pix for making a system that allows such practices and greatly awards ppl doing it. On top of that the tiers those guys belong to are on fire now due to recent "funky" bot releases. Newsflash from Pix: be the true 「bum-bum hole」 with low skill and self esteem problems that call for compensation by means of seal clubbing aaand....you shall be rewarded ! Tadaaa
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Post by seanh on Oct 10, 2017 4:31:47 GMT -5
I’m confused, perhaps my sarcasm radar is gone wonky, but are some folk actually suggesting they are doing this because of dashes and the evil MM?
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Post by K A Z on Oct 10, 2017 4:58:07 GMT -5
Iâm confused, perhaps my sarcasm radar is gone wonky, but are some folk actually suggesting they are doing this because of dashes and the evil MM? 1. sOs are doing it because they are 「multiple bum-bums」. 2. Pix are 「multiple bum-bums」 because they allow it. 3. Imo Pix are smellier of 2 because they went way past just allowing it to point where they incentivize tanking with mm/dash/league system. 4. Summary: both parties stink. You can make your own selection to point the better of 2, but I would consider it an equivalent of choice between diarrhea and dysentery.
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Post by H1151 on Oct 10, 2017 6:20:18 GMT -5
...and that’s why they had to tank all the way down to Silver to beat the snot out of the new players, who have absolutely no chance against them, and who are in no way responsible of all the poo that’s going on in War Robots? Poor guys from SOS indeed. Maybe they found a good way to drop down on mass without wasting time. Now they have week or two of play to get back to diamond 2.
But silver or gold or whatever makes little difference. This will be the norm soon and I've been saying it for a while now. Issue is that some will pull out their 12/12 old gear and than the others respond in kind and there goes the league system. the 12/12 Haechies will follow soon too so they can continue their clubbing.
the OP bots must be balanced. there is no other solution that I can see.
I'm pretty sure I know how they did the tanking, but I'm not going to advertise it here for obvious reasons. I also think these guys will stay in Silver/Gold, and not rise any higher. They are most likely in LQ, but in my understanding are able to play amongst general population, when they squad. To me these guys behave in a pathetic way, just as [CK]erazor said in his thread title. In essence they are just like Pixonic. They exploit the new players just like Pix is exploiting the general player population, leaving their victims no option except to put up with it, pay their way out of it, or quit playing (or tank, but that's not an option for the new players). I agree OP bots should be balanced for sure, but I'm afraid that wouldn't solve the problem entirely. To me the underlying cause is the MM, as it has been for a long time already. It's an old verse sung ad nauseam, but MM should not be quite so aggressive in placing people against OP opponents, i.e. it should not be tweaked so much towards P2W. Also MM should prevent people from tanking excessively. You should be able to go down in food chain, but only if you would adjust your hangar accordingly. In other words, MM should factor in a combination of skill and realistic hangar strength. And the skill factor should be measured at least partially from a longer period of player history, not just the last 50 matches or so. The MM should of course still encourage P2W to keep the company viable, only not quite so brutally as it does now, killing the player base. Why Pix does not do that, but opts for sucking the game dry, gives cause for a grim prediction for the future of War Robots.
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Post by Estoplast on Oct 10, 2017 10:34:02 GMT -5
I just had a thought. Not sure it really applies. In very lower leagues you get dash blue light specials. So one with AU could get one for free, if tanking deep enough.
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