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Post by fatdogmagic on Sept 14, 2017 15:40:57 GMT -5
Word we have from Pixonic is that 3.2 will hopefully be released on Android on 25 Sept and will include a "new mechanic" for attaining Dash bots. Of course this inside info is subject to changes and the fluidity of circumstances (like the fact that even Pix was shocked when 3.1 was approved so fast by Apple). This "new mechanic" was mentioned after we fed back to them the immense dissatisfaction that had arisen as a result of the Black Market. More to follow..... Thanks for the update! Any info you can share is always appreciated!
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Post by amidf on Sept 14, 2017 16:11:24 GMT -5
What I -really- want (what I really really want) is that terrible "Pilot JAHDKJHSAK has won a Trident" to stop scrolling through my hanger screen, incredibly tacky IMO. Oh, no. You didn't just go Spice Girls on me, did you? It's just too early in the morning for that. He gave you the ol' zig-a-zag ah.
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Post by hi5 on Sept 14, 2017 17:12:42 GMT -5
Judging by how matches in diamond and up are absolutely PACKED with dash bots, I believe in fact while many want it cheaper, they are willing to pay good money for them. the pricing from a marketing standpoint was correct. I respectfully disagree that the pricing is correct. I can't imagine that of the millions of players a significant percentage already have them, but would not wager a guess. But it's all but been confirmed that they will nerf them and it's highly likely those individuals will react. You want to make customers happy to pay you and happy to play. They built up the suspense and made them very powerful to yield a big payoff - and clearly it has worked. But now they are in a corner, as the majority will not pay those prices and those who spent now will not like a lowered price or lesser power. I totally agree with your previous comment. If things were priced closer to $7.5 I myself would probably buy one - and I LOATHE paying for additional content in mobile games. I am willing to buy a whole game or suffer advertisements, but buying individual components bugs me. I own being a cheapskate and understand the devs deserve to get paid, but this model is too easily abused - especially on mobile where games can close up with little notice and you have nothing. At least with console games you know you can always play what you bought because the big companies are much less likely to close up shop/servers. Mobile games do not share this longevity.
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Post by llama4president on Sept 15, 2017 4:05:47 GMT -5
SuperHero thanks for sharing the info. Great news
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Post by piginapoke on Sept 15, 2017 4:34:53 GMT -5
Oh, no. You didn't just go Spice Girls on me, did you? It's just too early in the morning for that. He gave you the ol' zig-a-zag ah. For some reason, all those years ago when Wannabe first aired on radio I misheard zig-a-zig ah as "lick a sick ox ah" I thought it odd to be honest but then agian, considering the type of music at the the time, plausibile to a degree.
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Post by piginapoke on Sept 15, 2017 4:36:03 GMT -5
SuperHero Thanks for the info. I think they are going to do with dashbots like they did with the tempest. Either grind hard for it or if you want it now, show me the colour of your credit card.
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Post by Crow T. Robot on Sept 15, 2017 4:43:50 GMT -5
7000 ip (AU) for a medium WW bot ...14k for heavy doesn't strike you as steep? I think every piece of equipment in this game is extremely step. Those hourly offers are ridiculous. I really love this game but I didn't realize it would be a lifetime quest to obtain a Lancelot or a tempest. I guess I'll get a Korean bot when I purchase that real life Ferrari....
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 15, 2017 5:04:07 GMT -5
Word we have from Pixonic is that 3.2 will hopefully be released on Android on 25 Sept and will include a "new mechanic" for attaining Dash bots. Of course this inside info is subject to changes and the fluidity of circumstances (like the fact that even Pix was shocked when 3.1 was approved so fast by Apple). This "new mechanic" was mentioned after we fed back to them the immense dissatisfaction that had arisen as a result of the Black Market. More to follow..... * Parody* Pix: " Pilots! We've heard your dissatisfaction over the Black Market! And we have just the solution for you in this update!" Introducing.... The Black Chests!! Open them with Au and stand a chance to pull your dash bots!
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Post by K A Z on Sept 15, 2017 5:45:40 GMT -5
Pix has really made a money printer here and amount of cash some ppl spend is ridiculous if not stupid. I'm not playing War Robots much these days and try to keep it rather relaxed, stay out of the "wanna have, must have" circus. As many, many other threads suggest, there is a certain amount of frustration in the player base. The time ppl spend on attempts to achieve some illusive in-game goals is astonishing. Side effects is some pretty good read on this forum...but still, is it worth the effort behind it? It's a game. Things you buy don't really exist. It's not even a theater ticket, since with lottery you cannot really know what you'll get. Game should be considered imo a form of entertainment. Is it really so unique to be worth spending money which could buy you a new/used console of newest generation plus some games for it? I just bought 1TB PS4 slim, practically new with HZD for just above 200$...it cannot be nerfed, doesn't have tons of bugs that will be solved with next update...bringing new bugs. I can also buy other games for it for less then few-day War Robots premium cost. Those games will stay, can be sold as well as the hardware...and yah, it uses 60" screen I know there is a crowd psychology behind it, they created a demand with all this dash-bot hype and now after seeing few of those OP bots in the wild some ppl are spending hundreds of $ just to have access to this non-existing goods, which value is a subject to constant speculation on dev side (yep, it'll be nerfed). IMO in the very core, this game, like every other, is simply meant to be source of fun. There are tons of other games on this or other platforms to deliver same effect. Give you same feeling if you like...and if you want something competitive, try some PC or console titles in multi-player mode. There simply are better/more optimal ways to get the fun factor...I mean same amount of fun/satisfaction/challenge, etc. All in all the whole thing with War Robots went now brutally on the P2W side for those who strive to stay on top...if you want to maintain the edge, have a true winning chance = mm says you must pay. Guys it's your cash, but don't you feel this spiral spins sometimes beyond ridiculous? What I'm trying to say is just chill a bit, take a fresh look at a broader picture and find your fun in all of it instead of clicking the $$$ on the electronic bait. Nerf & buff, divide & conquer...
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 15, 2017 9:58:18 GMT -5
Wild bots seemed reasonably done. What's problem with them? I'd like to have a Doc, but IMHO the WW's are glass cannons, and I just can't justify the cost for the low HP. Update: I saw this "Blue Light" special for the first time last night. I was sorely tempted to buy the Doc. At the rates prior to the "Blue Light" specials, 1200 Au was $9.99 US. Going by that, Doc would be only $29.00. A very tempting offer for me. I didn't pull the ripcord though. I'd prefer to see if the WW's see any "rebalancing" first. Still, I may give in if I see the offer again. Then again, maybe not. I have too many upgrades in the wings as it is.
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Post by Poopface on Sept 15, 2017 11:26:39 GMT -5
I just bought 1TB PS4 slim, practically new with HZD for just above 200$...it cannot be nerfed, doesn't have tons of bugs that will be solved with next update...bringing new bugs. I can also buy other games for it for less then few-day War Robots premium cost. Those games will stay, can be sold as well as the hardware...and yah, it uses 60" screen I've preordered the GOTY version of Fallout 4 (XBone) with the same basic rationale.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Sept 15, 2017 12:00:52 GMT -5
Task 100: pilot a Stalker and do at least 1.2 million damage and 10 beacons.
Boom here is your dash!!!
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Post by SuperHero on Sept 15, 2017 12:14:20 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 12:18:10 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That's crazy. Do they get to keep what they spun? I hope Pix can identify those accounts. People can be such jackasses.
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Post by SuperHero on Sept 15, 2017 12:23:37 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That's crazy. Do they get to keep what they spun? I hope Pix can identify those accounts. People can be such jackasses. Yes, they keep what they spin. Kinda hard to backtrack if they have already used the gold won from spins to speed upgrades etc... I agree they are jackasses. But their rationale to Apple for getting their refunds is that Pix misrepresented how easy it would be to get a Dash. And I kinda have to agree with that one. I dont think anyone has a problem spending money if you KNOW what you are going to get for the money spend (ie a Dash). But to spend money for a CHANCE is quite silly. Especially when some folks get a dash from a single Silver spin and we have had cases of folks spending $400 and getting zero dashes. I dont agree, but I do empathize. But yeah, the situation is totally being exploited. Though Apple makes it clear that they will only do the refund ONCE for that reason given.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 12:36:18 GMT -5
I understand your point, but I don't really buy that logic SuperHero. This isnt the first time we have had chests. Everyone knows the super prizes are not easy to hit. I dont like the Black Market rollout that Pix has used for new content for the past year, but it is what it is. Bigger spenders get premium content sooner than the masses. People pretending to feel deceived and getting refunds are just gaming the system. By employing their deceit, they really just punish the rest of the honest playerbase, since there are more Dashes out there than Pix was paid for, so Pix will need to recoup that in their pricing going forward.
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Post by SuperHero on Sept 15, 2017 12:49:25 GMT -5
I understand your point, but I don't really buy that logic SuperHero . This isnt the first time we have had chests. Everyone knows the super prizes are not easy to hit. I dont like the Black Market rollout that Pix has used for new content for the past year, but it is what it is. Bigger spenders get premium content sooner than the masses. People pretending to feel deceived and getting refunds are just gaming the system. By employing their deceit, they really just punish the rest of the honest playerbase, since there are more Dashes out there than Pix was paid for, so Pix will need to recoup that in their pricing going forward. I agree with you mate. I'm not saying i condone it, but I truly suspect it's many folks way of just giving Pix the finger. But what are they recouping? It's just digital code. LOL.... But to reiterate, I dont agree with the practice
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Post by zer00eyz on Sept 15, 2017 12:56:11 GMT -5
That said, my irritation with the MM (both on my main account and far newer silver-level account) far outweighs any interest I may have in new content being released. Lipstick and acrylic nails on the pig. Your supposition is that MM is broken. From your perspective it may be, but from pix's it is not. It is designed to create just enough pressure on players that they are driven to pay for upgrades and bots. The current korean bot positioning was an attempt to target the asian market, and to help pix identify whales. If I had to guess they cashed out the first week and the bottom fell out sales this time on the black market and they are looking for a new way to chase cash. If you aren't happy with MM then manipulate it, it is the only way to send a message to pix.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Sept 15, 2017 12:57:09 GMT -5
I understand your point, but I don't really buy that logic SuperHero . This isnt the first time we have had chests. Everyone knows the super prizes are not easy to hit. I dont like the Black Market rollout that Pix has used for new content for the past year, but it is what it is. Bigger spenders get premium content sooner than the masses. People pretending to feel deceived and getting refunds are just gaming the system. By employing their deceit, they really just punish the rest of the honest playerbase, since there are more Dashes out there than Pix was paid for, so Pix will need to recoup that in their pricing going forward. I agree with you mate. I'm not saying i condone it, but I truly suspect it's many folks way of just giving Pix the finger. But what are they recouping? It's just digital code. LOL.... But to reiterate, I dont agree with the practice if you accidentally click to buy something, that makes sense. but asking for a refund ion any lottery is stupid. agree totally, as you don't go to vegas to get money, lose, and ask for your money back.
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Post by zer00eyz on Sept 15, 2017 13:00:53 GMT -5
Especially when some folks get a dash from a single Silver spin and we have had cases of folks spending $400 and getting zero dashes. I would venture to guess that if we could look at lifetime spending, device used to spin/play with, and the state of your Facebook account (real or fake) that we would quickly find that there is a strong corollary to outcome on spins.
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Post by Poopface on Sept 15, 2017 13:05:18 GMT -5
That said, my irritation with the MM (both on my main account and far newer silver-level account) far outweighs any interest I may have in new content being released. Lipstick and acrylic nails on the pig. Your supposition is that MM is broken. From your perspective it may be, but from pix's it is not. It is designed to create just enough pressure on players that they are driven to pay for upgrades and bots. If you aren't happy with MM then manipulate it, it is the only way to send a message to pix. How, exactly, does one go about manipulating the MM on a silver-level account?
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Post by zer00eyz on Sept 15, 2017 13:46:09 GMT -5
Your supposition is that MM is broken. From your perspective it may be, but from pix's it is not. It is designed to create just enough pressure on players that they are driven to pay for upgrades and bots. If you aren't happy with MM then manipulate it, it is the only way to send a message to pix. How, exactly, does one go about manipulating the MM on a silver-level account? The same way one does it at almost every other level. Pix has an issue in that they are trying to balance too many things with the MM system. Power, skill, profit, player satisfaction, DAU counts (something they need to pay attention to). Make it your goal to NEVER finish in the top three and still win. That doesn't mean underplaying your hanger, it doesn't mean wasting bots. It means you have a high win/low damage hanger and the play style to go with it. It will take a good number of matches before the system starts to feed you "softballs" --- games where your the lone silver player mixed in with bronze players. Never ever stop playing on a win... Always stop playing after a mismatched loss (a loss where your the lone silver with higher ranked players). Make sure you quit out of the game for at least 5 minutes after this happens. That doesn't mean play on your other account that means STOP PLAYING War Robots all together. Your frequency of hanger changes may be a factor as well. If you keep getting fed bad games regardless of the above change something. It doesn't matter what or if it is or isn't effective just make the change.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Sept 15, 2017 13:49:32 GMT -5
What I -really- want (what I really really want) is that terrible "Pilot JAHDKJHSAK has won a Trident" to stop scrolling through my hanger screen, incredibly tacky IMO. Oh, no. You didn't just go Spice Girls on me, did you? It's just too early in the morning for that. With any luck that song stayed with you all day, Make it last forever, friendship never ends
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Post by hyderier on Sept 15, 2017 14:17:11 GMT -5
If you aren't happy with MM then manipulate it, it is the only way to send a message to pix. If you mean tanking, then I think Pix is just fine with you tanking... So yes, you are sending them a message: your MM mechanism works as intended, encouraging tanking, clubbing and spending money to get out of the clubber zone.
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Post by zer00eyz on Sept 15, 2017 14:20:59 GMT -5
If you aren't happy with MM then manipulate it, it is the only way to send a message to pix. If you mean tanking, then I think Pix is just fine with you tanking... So yes, you are sending them a message: your MM mechanism works as intended, encouraging tanking, clubbing and spending money to get out of the clubber zone. Tanking and fading aren't the only ways to manipulate MM. The gaps are so wide and obvious that you can park a rajin in them and still fit a lance around both sides. Pix is still using blunt instruments to achieve its goals.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 15, 2017 14:28:14 GMT -5
Oh, no. You didn't just go Spice Girls on me, did you? It's just too early in the morning for that. With any luck that song stayed with you all day, Make it last forever, friendship never ends Nah. I don't really wanna. I see what Mel B is going through right now. Right or wrong, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And Posh is too posh for my liking.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Sept 15, 2017 14:30:49 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That's plain and simple fraud. A violation of implicit contractual agreement...Pix is in the business of selling non physical 1's and 0's...They have to take full advantage of the limited time to maximize a highly perishable digital privilege through artificially inducing scarcity in a thing that is infinitely reproducible. A paying player is actually renting access to digital non tangible content and is never the property of the buyer ever. If indeed players have full hangers of 12/12 Dash hangers hours after release by fraud refunding , this is out and out banable offenses.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Sept 15, 2017 15:07:07 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That's plain and simple fraud. A violation of implicit contractual agreement...Pix is in the business of selling non physical 1's and 0's...They have to take full advantage of the limited time to maximize a highly perishable digital privilege through artificially inducing scarcity in a thing that is infinitely reproducible. A paying player is actually renting access to digital non tangible content and is never the property of the buyer ever. If indeed players have full hangers of 12/12 Dash hangers hours after release by fraud refunding , this is out and out banable offenses. From what I understand, Apple will not release to outside companies who asked for and received refunds so it's basically impossible to trace, Pix just gets the refund notice from Apple and has to pay it back. From Apple's perspective it's probably the correct way to do business because of consumer confidentiality etc.
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Post by shakingrabbit on Sept 15, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That sucks ballz for them but somehow I don't feel all that bad for them either. They tried playing us good players by trying to game the system against us and got played themselves...HA! And now, they're going to "fix" the delivery mechanic because we were grumbling? Ha! Does not make me feel sympathetic for them at all. So not only are they losing a bunch of money but also a lot of player good will. Oh irony!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 15:15:32 GMT -5
Most people dont seem to realize that a HUGE number of players bought $500-1000 worth of keys, spun them, got their dash bots and then asked Apple for a refund. And in nearly all cases I have heard, Apple gave them all the money back. That's plain and simple fraud. A violation of implicit contractual agreement...Pix is in the business of selling non physical 1's and 0's...They have to take full advantage of the limited time to maximize a highly perishable digital privilege through artificially inducing scarcity in a thing that is infinitely reproducible. A paying player is actually renting access to digital non tangible content and is never the property of the buyer ever. If indeed players have full hangers of 12/12 Dash hangers hours after release by fraud refunding , this is out and out banable offenses. I would go a step further and say you are not even renting the bots/content. We are paying for enjoyment. Plain and simple. Like pumping quarters into an arcade game. You dont own the game, or even rent it. You just get the enjoyment of using it. The jerks that grabbed refunds from Apple just found away to get all their quarters back after getting their arcade time. Its the same as sneaking into a theater or sporting event.
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