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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 11:22:12 GMT -5
Now I'm stuck between 2 orkans and 5th slot this is adrians answer to me I said should I get 2 orkans or 5th slot first he said well I won kumiho yesterday so should I buy orkan or 5th slot im early silver my hanger I have 2800 gold
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Post by Poopface on Sept 8, 2017 11:28:34 GMT -5
I've always been a big proponent on getting the 5th slot. Presently, I'm saving for my 5th on my alt account (2100 gold to go!).
Although Orkans are fantastic, there's a lot of other things you can do with a 5th slot. The extra damage you do from two Orkans won't give you the extra flexibility of having another "in case an odd situation arises" mech to pull out or another to keep you from meching out.
Yes, you may not need a 5th mech if you're hammering somebody from <300m away with two Orkans, but the fact remains that having a lone ranged mech in a knife-fighting hanger for if/when you need to silence a PITA sniper could make the difference in your team's win or loss.
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Sept 8, 2017 11:32:21 GMT -5
I would get the Orkans, especially 2 of them, I'm currently in Diamond 3, and everything is either Orkans, or Tarans. Orkans are extremely useful just because they reload so fast (.6 shots a second after ammo clip empties), and their high damage, these guys are so universally versatile, and powerful, yet they keep getting buffed.
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 8, 2017 11:37:57 GMT -5
I completely advocate the 5th slot. With the black market rolling on, you might just win an Orkan or two, but you can't win a 5th slot.
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Post by amidf on Sept 8, 2017 11:43:21 GMT -5
I got 2 orkans and a galahad before I got my fifth slot. I would no longer recommend the galahad, but the orkans would still be OK. They are powerful weapons and have been for a long time. Getting them now gets you a head start on leveling them up. If you're lucky enough to win orkans in the BM or an event, you can use more than 2.
However, the next gold purchase after orkans should be slot 5. No lances, furies, aphids, zeuses, anciles, gekkos, or rogatkas should tempt you. And forget about gepards and garies. Those are trash.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 8, 2017 11:45:33 GMT -5
Kumiho and orkans were MEANT to be together. I didn't get my 5th slot until around Gold 2 to Gold 1. I didn't miss it much. The thing with the 5th slot is that yes, you get extra flexibility, but you also have 1 more bot and set of weapons to upgrade. Orkans are a game changer, especially in Silver league. You have a pretty good hangar, and after the orkans, I'd probably ditch the Natasha for a Carnage. Then, when you get the 5th slot, put the Natasha back as a sniper bot or something. A dual thunder Nat may seem like a great brawler, but it isn't. With the thunders so far apart, you actually don't hit the smaller bots all that much, and a 1v1 with virtually anything else with 1 thunder will not go too well for you. The pinatas won't go to waste. As you progres, you'll eventually get another set of orkans (or swap out the tarans for some variety). The first time you melt a bot with a DB setup up, I guarantee an orgasmatic rush will flood from your thumb to your brain.
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Sept 8, 2017 11:48:47 GMT -5
Kumiho and orkans were MEANT to be together. I didn't get my 5th slot until around Gold 2 to Gold 1. I didn't miss it much. The thing with the 5th slot is that yes, you get extra flexibility, but you also have 1 more bot and set of weapons to upgrade. Orkans are a game changer, especially in Silver league. You have a pretty good hangar, and after the orkans, I'd probably ditch the Natasha for a Carnage. Then, when you get the 5th slot, put the Natasha back as a sniper bot or something. A dual thunder Nat may seem like a great brawler, but it isn't. With the thunders so far apart, you actually don't hit the smaller bots all that much, and a 1v1 with virtually anything else with 1 thunder will not go too well for you. The pinatas won't go to waste. As you progres, you'll eventually get another set of orkans (or swap out the tarans for some variety). The first time you melt a bot with a DB setup up, I guarantee an orgasmatic rush will flood from your thumb to your brain. I just read "Orgasmatic rush will flood from your thumb to your brain", and I knew whatever you were saying was correct.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 12:17:30 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to buy orkans for kumiho
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Post by DBCooper on Sept 8, 2017 14:07:40 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to buy orkans for kumiho That kind of mobility and the firepower of two orkans have GOT to be a lot of fun together !!
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 8, 2017 14:29:40 GMT -5
Just remember. Despite all the comparisons to the Rogatka, you cannot play it like a Rogatka. A Rogatka is more a general purpose bot, a jack of many trades. It's a good beacon capper, decent ambusher, decent corner shooter, etc... I wish I had a Kumiho, and if I did, I'd probably run it the way I used to run my Gareth. Run to cover, corner shoot when possible - aim not for the red square, but just outside it to get that sweet splash damage. Never expose yourself too long and don't over use the dash cause it might not be available when you need it most. Zip out of cover, unload, and zip back, then run til your orkans reload.
Dang.. I really want one!
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 14:32:26 GMT -5
Just remember. Despite all the comparisons to the Rogatka, you cannot play it like a Rogatka. A Rogatka is more a general purpose bot, a jack of many trades. It's a good beacon capper, decent ambusher, decent corner shooter, etc... I wish I had a Kumiho, and if I did, I'd probably run it the way I used to run my Gareth. Run to cover, corner shoot when possible - aim not for the red square, but just outside it to get that sweet splash damage. Never expose yourself too long and don't over use the dash cause it might not be available when you need it most. Zip out of cover, unload, and zip back, then run til your orkans reload. Dang.. I really want one! i hope you can get one too
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Sept 8, 2017 15:04:35 GMT -5
With the implementation of BR I'm standing firm by 5th slot first. Currently, my win % is down to like a 38% cause I keep getting stuck on these freakin teams with players with 4 slots in diamond.
I'm so sick of losing game after game, being the last one left while the rest of my team has meched out cause they are too damn impatient to get the 5th slot or because the want a Lancelot instead.
If you (or anyone) are able to buy Orkans or whatever else first AND STILL have time to open the 5th slot once you get to D3 or very shortly after, than I have absolutely no problem with that.
Otherwise, I don't care if your God tells you to get Orkans first, lol. If you're in D2 and up, even if you've got all the gold bots and weapons in the game but you've only got 4 slots, I DONT WANT YOU ON MY TEAM.
I'm sorry but I'm frustrated with my teammates constantly meching out lately and I happened to catch this thread right after I just lost 3 in a row being the last one left on my team.
This of course is just my (obviously strong) opinion and from a teammates perspective. I mean it too. I'd rather have someone on my team running all 5 slots with Ag and WSP bots and weapons than 4 slots filled with Au bots and weapons.
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 8, 2017 15:17:11 GMT -5
With the implementation of BR I'm standing firm by 5th slot first. Currently, my win % is down to like a 38% cause I keep getting stuck on these freakin teams with players with 4 slots in diamond. I'm so sick of losing game after game, being the last one left while the rest of my team has meched out cause they are too damn impatient to get the 5th slot or because the want a Lancelot instead. If you (or anyone) are able to buy Orkans or whatever else first AND STILL have time to open the 5th slot once you get to D3 or very shortly after, than I have absolutely no problem with that. Otherwise, I don't care if your God tells you to get Orkans first, lol. If you're in D2 and up, even if you've got all the gold bots and weapons in the game but you've only got 4 slots, I DONT WANT YOU ON MY TEAM. I'm sorry but I'm frustrated with my teammates constantly meching out lately and I happened to catch this thread right after I just lost 3 in a row being the last one left on my team. This of course is just my (obviously strong) opinion and from a teammates perspective. I mean it too. I'd rather have someone on my team running all 5 slots with Ag and WSP bots and weapons than 4 slots filled with Au bots and weapons. Its too late, the OP already brought the Orkans. I'm frustrated as well with teammates meching out when there is still 4 minutes left in the game and we HAD THE BEACON ADVANTAGE.
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Post by inspirace on Sept 8, 2017 15:47:20 GMT -5
in general, I would say the 5th slot.
but if the OP already got a Kumiho before the 5th, then why postponing the fun? with an Orkan Kumiho, the OP will wreck the silver league, where many others may not have the 5th anyway.
still, the 5th should be the right next priority.
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Post by mechtout on Sept 8, 2017 17:18:40 GMT -5
Pinata thunder leo can get you by until the 5th slot
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 8, 2017 18:30:22 GMT -5
Now I'm stuck between 2 orkans and 5th slot this is adrians answer to me I said should I get 2 orkans or 5th slot first he said well I won kumiho yesterday so should I buy orkan or 5th slot im early silver my hanger I have 2800 gold Is Adrian a politician? Because that's about as wishy-washy flip-floppy as it gets. 5th slot. You really won't regret it. Catch those specials just right and you can get more Au for $0.99. Just bought 350 Au that way myself for my Steel Cat profile to help get much closer to my 5th slot.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 18:30:40 GMT -5
With the implementation of BR I'm standing firm by 5th slot first. Currently, my win % is down to like a 38% cause I keep getting stuck on these freakin teams with players with 4 slots in diamond. I'm so sick of losing game after game, being the last one left while the rest of my team has meched out cause they are too damn impatient to get the 5th slot or because the want a Lancelot instead. If you (or anyone) are able to buy Orkans or whatever else first AND STILL have time to open the 5th slot once you get to D3 or very shortly after, than I have absolutely no problem with that. Otherwise, I don't care if your God tells you to get Orkans first, lol. If you're in D2 and up, even if you've got all the gold bots and weapons in the game but you've only got 4 slots, I DONT WANT YOU ON MY TEAM. I'm sorry but I'm frustrated with my teammates constantly meching out lately and I happened to catch this thread right after I just lost 3 in a row being the last one left on my team. This of course is just my (obviously strong) opinion and from a teammates perspective. I mean it too. I'd rather have someone on my team running all 5 slots with Ag and WSP bots and weapons than 4 slots filled with Au bots and weapons. I'm in gold1 and there are few people with 5th slot but there are lots of people with gold weapons
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 18:32:27 GMT -5
Now I'm stuck between 2 orkans and 5th slot this is adrians answer to me I said should I get 2 orkans or 5th slot first he said well I won kumiho yesterday so should I buy orkan or 5th slot im early silver my hanger I have 2800 gold Is Adrian a politician? Because that's about as wishy-washy flip-floppy as it gets. 5th slot. You really won't regret it. Catch those specials just right and you can get more Au for $0.99. Just bought 350 Au that way myself for my Steel Cat profile to help get much closer to my 5th slot. Nope I won't buy anything for real money but I just bought 2 orkans and they work quite awesome with kumiho
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 8, 2017 18:41:17 GMT -5
Nope I won't buy anything for real money but I just bought 2 orkans and they work quite awesome with kumiho Oopsy, I should have expanded on that statement. Google has been giving me $0.99 at times for special promotions and I don't what, but I sure like it. It's been accumulating now for a while and I have over $17.00 Google bucks in my account. So I spent $0.99 of it today to get 350 Au. ? So technically I'm not spending any of my money on the game. ?
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 8, 2017 18:47:14 GMT -5
Nope I won't buy anything for real money but I just bought 2 orkans and they work quite awesome with kumiho Oopsy, I should have expanded on that statement. Google has been giving me $0.99 at times for special promotions and I don't what, but I sure like it. It's been accumulating now for a while and I have over $17.00 Google bucks in my account. So I spent $0.99 of it today to get 350 Au. ? So technically I'm not spending any of my money on the game. ? How do you do it? Google doesn't offer me money...
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 8, 2017 19:04:41 GMT -5
Oopsy, I should have expanded on that statement. Google has been giving me $0.99 at times for special promotions and I don't what, but I sure like it. It's been accumulating now for a while and I have over $17.00 Google bucks in my account. So I spent $0.99 of it today to get 350 Au. ? So technically I'm not spending any of my money on the game. ? How do you do it? Google doesn't offer me money... I have no idea. I have 8 Google Play gaming profiles that I use and they just give me $0.99 at times to apply towards apps every so often. They do the same for books, movies, music and other stuff. I've gotten lots of free stuff from Google without asking for it.
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Post by MCYL on Sept 8, 2017 19:18:25 GMT -5
I think it's all dependent on whether you can counter a red with Orkans. If you can maintain situation awareness the range of Orkans can be easily positioned against. For my new smurf acc. The main anti DB Griff is a Punisher Griff. Do I lose to DBs? Yes I do, when I'm stuff up and don't check my arcs or didn't look for escape avenues. With the equipment you have plus a dashbot, in reality you can do whatever what you want in silver. I'd probably go Orkans and just have fun with the Kumiho, that bot can last an entire match on its own. Where I'm at I assume every match against everyone I'm outgunned, outran and thin skinned. So for me 5th slot was a dead ringer.
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Post by imnobody on Sept 8, 2017 19:45:01 GMT -5
Unless the orkan can give you the man with the golden gun one shot kill between each reload time to compensate your 4 hanagrs , than im sorry to say, you made a mistake by getting the orkans first. The odds you winning with 4 slot isn't going get you far in to the game. I just bough 5th slot after my two orkans ( running with 4 hangar suck). with my four hanagar I had to play cautious with the 5 slots I can comfortably sit back and run my hangar with the breeze.
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Post by Heishiro on Sept 8, 2017 20:53:29 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to buy orkans for kumiho good choice, what is the purpose of that good bot if it cant have a good weapon. the choice is either have a 4 bot hangar with competitive bots or run a 5 hangar meh meh bots/weapon. also remove the natasha and get another griffin.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 8, 2017 21:21:03 GMT -5
I've always believed the 5th slot first was best, and would usually recommend it. But lately I've seen a LOT of 4-slot hangars doing really well in damage, mostly because they've been able to level up 4 bots and loadouts faster than five. I don't know where the threshold is where you need that 5th slot to survive, or if there even is one, but I'm seeing more and more 4's in Diamond.
If I ever start another account, I might get crazy and see how far I can go with 2 slots.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Sept 8, 2017 21:30:31 GMT -5
Get 2x orkans for your kumiho
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 21:35:40 GMT -5
Thanks you all for suggests I have bought orkans
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 8, 2017 21:37:09 GMT -5
Get 2x orkans for your kumiho how many levels orkan wants to be effective now I can give 60k damage per salvo
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Post by Landy on Sept 8, 2017 22:14:28 GMT -5
If you are looking for max damage, I have found it best to make the bots that you use, be the strongest ones. If you don't mech out or use 5 bots on many games, there is not much use in having or upgrading that 5th slot. I notice that other 4 or 3 bot hangars can deal out a lot of damage, especially when the game is short and I have only used maybe 2 bots. That is probably because they also only used 2 bots but their 2 bots were leveled up.
With my knifer setup, I can charge into battle and probably use only 3 or 4 bots by the time the match ends. If I used all 5, either we were getting decimated or I tried to go 1 vs 3 every time.
With that said, I do have 5 slots and I level all my bots to at least level 9 because I have a need for speed. I do focus on leveling up my first 2 bot's weapons and that has given me the greatest damage.
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Post by Landy on Sept 8, 2017 22:17:47 GMT -5
I should say that the 5th slot could be useful from a max damage perspective for someone like me that runs all knifers. I could turn that 5th slot into a medium range bot with some Tulus and increase damage on maps like Yama. As it is, having all knifers on Yama has been difficult.
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