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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Sept 9, 2017 0:04:13 GMT -5
Get 2x orkans for your kumiho how many levels orkan wants to be effective now I can give 60k damage per salvo I have 3x orkans level 9,9,7 |
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Post by snk on Sept 9, 2017 0:19:09 GMT -5
I think both 5th slots and first 2 Orkan are both very good. I start a Facebook Gamesroom account couple weeks ago, I bought 2 Orkan after 4 slot. Just because I can level them earlier. I reach Master League in just 230 win with winning rate around 70%. I earn 8-10Au every winning game, with Cossack as beacon runner and DB Griffin as main damage dealer, with the help of Punisher Griffin and low level Thunder Carnage (just earn enough WSP few days ago). I have RDB in storage and which will be in my hanger after I get 5th slot (only 2000+ Au to go).
Yeah, having Orkan really help push my damage to top 3 damage every game, which mean more Au every winning match or reach 5000Au faster.
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Post by MCYL on Sept 9, 2017 0:42:41 GMT -5
Unless the orkan can give you the man with the golden gun one shot kill between each reload time to compensate your 4 hanagrs , than im sorry to say, you made a mistake by getting the orkans first. The odds you winning with 4 slot isn't going get you far in to the game. I just bough 5th slot after my two orkans ( running with 4 hangar suck). with my four hanagar I had to play cautious with the 5 slots I can comfortably sit back and run my hangar with the breeze. I thought so too. But with the levels his weapons and bots are at, and a kumiho no less, there'll be very little chance of meching in silver. I used to plan the long game with War Robots, but seeing how Mech, weapon balances and matchmaking can be thrown out in the drop of a hat, why bother. Might as well have some fun while you can. In the past I made the mistake of treating War Robots like CS:GO, DOTA etc. I'm wondering if I'm too late or too old to take up overwatch on PS4. It looks a lot more appealing in balance, MM and teamwork. Ironically a lot cheaper too. |
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Post by anjian on Sept 9, 2017 4:06:24 GMT -5
With the implementation of BR I'm standing firm by 5th slot first. Currently, my win % is down to like a 38% cause I keep getting stuck on these freakin teams with players with 4 slots in diamond. I'm so sick of losing game after game, being the last one left while the rest of my team has meched out cause they are too damn impatient to get the 5th slot or because the want a Lancelot instead. If you (or anyone) are able to buy Orkans or whatever else first AND STILL have time to open the 5th slot once you get to D3 or very shortly after, than I have absolutely no problem with that. Otherwise, I don't care if your God tells you to get Orkans first, lol. If you're in D2 and up, even if you've got all the gold bots and weapons in the game but you've only got 4 slots, I DONT WANT YOU ON MY TEAM. I'm sorry but I'm frustrated with my teammates constantly meching out lately and I happened to catch this thread right after I just lost 3 in a row being the last one left on my team. This of course is just my (obviously strong) opinion and from a teammates perspective. I mean it too. I'd rather have someone on my team running all 5 slots with Ag and WSP bots and weapons than 4 slots filled with Au bots and weapons. My thoughts, my feelings and my experience exactly. Help the team best, get a fifth slot. |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 9, 2017 8:11:58 GMT -5
If you plan on spending rm for black market, then buy 5th slot. Orkans are common.
If however you don't plan, then get orkans. Orkans on a kumiho are game endingly abusive. And I'm not joking about that.
Stalker plus Gareth etc== beacon cap, maybe catch a lone Rambo . Harass alittle and die.
Kumi with orkans ... cap multiple beacons kill all rambos, possibly kill weakened/ reloading Griffins, destroy ancilots with back turned on you,
Force multiple bots to chase you, force center beacon combat. The list goes on. Basically this bot is just better than any other beacon capper setup, and better combatant than all medium / might bots excepting Death Star pattons. Maybe a (weak) fantasy land argument can be made for ancile golem, but really where do you see that lol?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 8:28:12 GMT -5
Now I'm stuck between 2 orkans and 5th slot this is adrians answer to me I said should I get 2 orkans or 5th slot first he said  well I won kumiho yesterday so should I buy orkan or 5th slot im early silver my hanger  I have 2800 gold Don't listen to Adrian Chong. He is a Champion league player. You are in Silver league. 5th slot and put 2 Tarans on your Kumiho and next you will need Thunder Carnage or you can upgrade Punishers to shred enemy bots into pieces. In 18 days you will have 2200 gold for the 5th slot if you win 7 battles each day. |
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 9, 2017 8:55:15 GMT -5
Now I'm stuck between 2 orkans and 5th slot this is adrians answer to me I said should I get 2 orkans or 5th slot first he said well I won kumiho yesterday so should I buy orkan or 5th slot im early silver my hanger I have 2800 gold Don't listen to Adrian Chong. He is a Champion league player. You are in Silver league. 5th slot and put 2 Tarans on your Kumiho and next you will need Thunder Carnage or you can upgrade Punishers to shred enemy bots into pieces. In 18 days you will have 2200 gold for the 5th slot if you win 7 battles each day. 2late4me also I said I'm in silver league to adrian |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 9, 2017 9:02:09 GMT -5
Don't listen to Adrian Chong. He is a Champion league player. You are in Silver league. 5th slot and put 2 Tarans on your Kumiho and next you will need Thunder Carnage or you can upgrade Punishers to shred enemy bots into pieces. In 18 days you will have 2200 gold for the 5th slot if you win 7 battles each day. 2late4me also I said I'm in silver league to adrian Well, if you bought the orkans slap them on the kumi and go smash beacons for 5 gold a match. You can earn 60 gold from your daily - a kumi plus orkans in silver should yield 5 AU average every match. You should be a top damage dealer too. Downside is your gonna get your behind booted out of silver mighty fast hahahaha |
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 9, 2017 9:25:50 GMT -5
2late4me also I said I'm in silver league to adrian Well, if you bought the orkans slap them on the kumi and go smash beacons for 5 gold a match. You can earn 60 gold from your daily - a kumi plus orkans in silver should yield 5 AU average every match. You should be a top damage dealer too. Downside is your gonna get your behind booted out of silver mighty fast hahahaha nope I'm still gaining silver and 5 gold per win |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 9, 2017 9:27:21 GMT -5
Well, if you bought the orkans slap them on the kumi and go smash beacons for 5 gold a match. You can earn 60 gold from your daily - a kumi plus orkans in silver should yield 5 AU average every match. You should be a top damage dealer too. Downside is your gonna get your behind booted out of silver mighty fast hahahaha nope I'm still gaining silver and 5 gold per win Rock it while you can, gold sucks lol |
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Post by hon_shu on Sept 11, 2017 14:47:25 GMT -5
Hm, I have 5 slots and I find it very limiting. Where do I put my Disco Leo? And my Punisher Griffin? And my Galahad? And my Stalker? Glad I don't have any Dashes, because where would I put those?! Can't imagine having fewer slots really any more.
Orkans are super-useful especially in BR, but there's a lot of alternatives and it's hardly the end of the world if you can't run Orkans for a month or so longer. Yes, keep playing those daily tasks if you don't want to spend a little cash on extra Gold. Learn to use Plasma, Bullets, RDB, Thunders, Pinatas, or whatever gets you going and run a Stalker in the meantime to get you ahead on the beacon Gold reward. Orkans have a learning curve, too, so they're hardly the silver bullet many guys with 4 slot hangars are looking for.
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 11, 2017 15:44:59 GMT -5
I would get the Orkans, especially 2 of them, I'm currently in Diamond 3, and everything is either Orkans, or Tarans. Orkans are extremely useful just because they reload so fast (.6 shots a second after ammo clip empties), and their high damage, these guys are so universally versatile, and powerful, yet they keep getting buffed. Having played on fb gameroom without Orkans, and getting some Orkans now with chest gold, I have to agree that they make a huge difference. With an Orkan build I can often take out 2-3 enemy robots with my DB Griffin. With another robot for the 5th slot it's usually one more enemy that dies. But my take is that it is not worth to make this a religious war. As long as Orkans and 5th slot are the first gold purchases any player should be fine, no matter in whoch order he does it. |
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Post by axeofblood on Sept 11, 2017 20:03:11 GMT -5
I followed that advice. I found sure having that 5th slot helps but by the time you have a use for it the game is either going your way or it is a slaughter and you are the last standing. Sure the setup gives you that extra range or brawler but the orkans even that all out over time in games played. You will almost always unload them on a target if they are on something quick like the griff. I earned my 5th slot a month ago to but the grind was not so bad in that the instant revenge the db brings you when you really feel like godzilla. Silver weapon delays just dont cut it when you feel like you are out for blood. I am always satisfied with a db performance no matter the odds against me.
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Sept 11, 2017 20:33:58 GMT -5
I would get the Orkans, especially 2 of them, I'm currently in Diamond 3, and everything is either Orkans, or Tarans. Orkans are extremely useful just because they reload so fast (.6 shots a second after ammo clip empties), and their high damage, these guys are so universally versatile, and powerful, yet they keep getting buffed. Having played on fb gameroom without Orkans, and getting some Orkans now with chest gold, I have to agree that they make a huge difference. With an Orkan build I can often take out 2-3 enemy robots with my DB Griffin. With another robot for the 5th slot it's usually one more enemy that dies. But my take is that it is not worth to make this a religious war. As long as Orkans and 5th slot are the first gold purchases any player should be fine, no matter in whoch order he does it. I agree, but it also depends on where you are when you choose between 5th slot or 4 orkans. In around gold 2 situations, I would recommend the 5th slot, but above it, I would said go for orkans. |
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 11, 2017 22:53:44 GMT -5
For me personally when I was still having a 4 slot hangar, I always believed in firepower. But that proved to be futile, ever since I got my 5th slot, I'm able to actually play MUCH longer.
I'd support 5th slot but at the same time I'm not biased.
If you feel more satisfied going for weapon loadouts prior to 5th slot, by all means go ahead, it's your hangar, your game, your style. Rock it because you own it.
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 12, 2017 3:43:30 GMT -5
I followed that advice. I found sure having that 5th slot helps but by the time you have a use for it the game is either going your way or it is a slaughter and you are the last standing. Sure the setup gives you that extra range or brawler but the orkans even that all out over time in games played. You will almost always unload them on a target if they are on something quick like the griff. I earned my 5th slot a month ago to but the grind was not so bad in that the instant revenge the db brings you when you really feel like godzilla. Silver weapon delays just dont cut it when you feel like you are out for blood. I am always satisfied with a db performance no matter the odds against me. On beacon rush, yes. With domination, no. Often my 5th bot is the one that wins the game. Also, the crucial thing about the 5th slot is that it allows more variety. To be able to spawn the robot that is just right for the current situation is a big plus. Unless you play 4 RDB Griffins anyway and would just get a 5th  |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 12, 2017 4:05:49 GMT -5
Looo at it like this:
An Irish loadout might increase your total damage by 2.5%
4 bots, and one bot has an orkan, and somehow that one weapon increases damage by 10% therefore 10%/4
1 extra bot increases your damage by 20%. And increases your health pool and your response pool (now you can sink a slot into sniping)
1 bot extra is almost always better
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 12, 2017 4:52:43 GMT -5
Looo at it like this: An Irish loadout might increase your total damage by 2.5% 4 bots, and one bot has an orkan, and somehow that one weapon increases damage by 10% therefore 10%/4 1 extra bot increases your damage by 20%. And increases your health pool and your response pool (now you can sink a slot into sniping) 1 bot extra is almost always better whatever I already saved 1k gold |
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 12, 2017 5:30:50 GMT -5
Nah. You can do something with Orkans that you can't do with, say, Punishers: Totally obliterate an enemy within 4 seconds. If you're up against a Punisher Griff, you can kill him just when his Puns hit accelerated fire, taking maybe 30% damage in the process. Against a Thunder Punisher Leo it will take 2 loadouts, but you can give him one from 300m and the second when/if he approaches.
If a weapon allows you to take out several opponents (as opposed to one opponent) with your robot, it is worth considering it before the 5th slot.
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Post by lindenwood on Sept 12, 2017 8:32:37 GMT -5
But lately I've seen a LOT of 4-slot hangars doing really well in damage, mostly because they've been able to level up 4 bots and loadouts faster than five. I don't know where the threshold is where you need that 5th slot to survive, or if there even is one, but I'm seeing more and more 4's in Diamond. This. I didn't notice any increase in damage after the 5th slot, or any particularly-reduced odds of meching out. Getting better reduced meching, but I still have more bots and weapons to level which was indeed noticable. |
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 12, 2017 11:11:30 GMT -5
Nah. You can do something with Orkans that you can't do with, say, Punishers: Totally obliterate an enemy within 4 seconds. If you're up against a Punisher Griff, you can kill him just when his Puns hit accelerated fire, taking maybe 30% damage in the process. Against a Thunder Punisher Leo it will take 2 loadouts, but you can give him one from 300m and the second when/if he approaches. If a weapon allows you to take out several opponents (as opposed to one opponent) with your robot, it is worth considering it before the 5th slot. well my orkans are 7 level now but I'm disappointed because I suppose I can kill nearly any enemy with 2 orkans as I read in somewhere but I can kill a griffin barely what level they should be for effective |
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 12, 2017 15:33:36 GMT -5
At that level, 1-2 levels higher than the enemy bot. You need either Pinatas or Aphids to help the Orkans though.
As robot HP and weapons progress, weapons become more efficient at higher levels. At level 10-11 it suffices if the weapons are at the same level.
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Post by imnobody on Sept 12, 2017 23:48:13 GMT -5
At that level, 1-2 levels higher than the enemy bot. You need either Pinatas or Aphids to help the Orkans though. As robot HP and weapons progress, weapons become more efficient at higher levels. At level 10-11 it suffices if the weapons are at the same level. when you upgrade to 12/12 and you're put up against the same level as you it breaks even. Unless the MM decide to cheese you.... and you're up against a lower level tier, then thats a different story. |
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 13, 2017 2:58:41 GMT -5
Orkans/Pinatas do 168k burst damage. As they reload while firing, they will reload for another ~10% damage during the 3.2 seconds burst, so the true damage potential is ~184k in 4 seconds. That toasts all Griffins, Furys, Lancelots and the like (~170k HP), but not Raijin, Leo or Bulgasari.
As a practical matter, my robots at level 10 will suffice though. If I can damage a robot far enough that it has only 10% of its HP, it's usually crippled and can't do a lot more damage, so I can just keep firing.
At level 6 I found that I need a second burst.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 14, 2017 17:53:08 GMT -5
At that level, 1-2 levels higher than the enemy bot. You need either Pinatas or Aphids to help the Orkans though. As robot HP and weapons progress, weapons become more efficient at higher levels. At level 10-11 it suffices if the weapons are at the same level. so 9-10 levels should be enough currently I'm using them on kumiho |
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Post by snk on Sept 14, 2017 22:04:34 GMT -5
Au is so easy to earn in Facebook Gamesroom, I start the account 24th August, now level 30 in champions league. Purchase upto 4 slot> 2 Orkan> 5th slot yesterday.
I earn a lot of Au for climbing the league.
I earn a lot of Au for running a Cossack as beacon runner.
I earn a lot of Au because my DB Griffin contributed so much damage and put me top 2 damage almost every time I solo. (Which help my League rating = more Au)
I even bought first 2 WSP from Au, so I have a Thunder Carnage in my hanger too.
I know climbing League in Android or iOS is much much harder than Gamesroom, but the theory still the same. Good weapons and a good beacon runner can earn us faster Au.
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