lordevilbajskorv
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Post by lordevilbajskorv on Jan 20, 2017 6:49:20 GMT -5
I was off the game for close to three months and just came back last week. I play in Gold and was a.b.s.o.l.u.t.e.l.y. SHOCKED to find how OP the Aphids had become. One quad salvo basically takes out a L12 Griffin. I hope they nerf the fxxk out of it when the update reaches IoS.
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Thunder Carnage
GI. Patton
Out of the shadows, a horror emerged...
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Pilot name: Pilot Hunter 203
Platform: iOS
Clan: Wut?
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Server Region: Asia
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 20, 2017 7:01:40 GMT -5
Aphids aren't OP. As I have stated on multiple platforms, including my clan chat, Griffins are a tad too squishy for knife fighting. And aphids can be dodged like nobody's buisness if you are aware of your surroundings. Heck, I've killed aphid gels in my stalker and left without a scratch
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lordevilbajskorv
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Post by lordevilbajskorv on Jan 20, 2017 7:12:33 GMT -5
I agree to disagree...
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whitecrow666
GI. Patton
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Favorite robot: Gareth
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Post by whitecrow666 on Jan 20, 2017 7:20:11 GMT -5
I noticed with gareth speed buff i am avoiding aphids hell lot more and they don't really hurt or damage me like before patch.
Before a Aphid patton would kill my gareth.
Now they can't hit me and i kill them.
I don't use aphids.
But as gareth bot user i can say your wasteing your time shooting them at gareth bot now .
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 20, 2017 10:08:07 GMT -5
My experience (android) playing on 2.5 is that they seem to fly a little flatter and hit walls a bit more often. But maybe they haven't been changed yet and that is just operator error. However, if I am standing still they still hurt a lot. Also the increase in most bots HP at low and medium levels takes a bit of the sting off.
IMO they seem to be fine now. Still brutal if you get hit by them but not quite as simple as lock and chuck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 0:00:43 GMT -5
They ain't getting much height now. Thanks again PIX!
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johnny5
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Post by johnny5 on Jan 22, 2017 0:51:51 GMT -5
I don't notice much more or less in damage, but I do notice I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them anymore. They don't track over low obstacles any more, and you basically need to be in "line of site" to hit anything around a corner. If I try to "arc" my shot over or around anything now, they either fire straight into a wall, or I loose Target Lock.
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Post by blastronaut on Jan 22, 2017 1:22:10 GMT -5
I don't notice much more or less in damage, but I do notice I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them anymore. They don't track over low obstacles any more, and you basically need to be in "line of site" to hit anything around a corner. If I try to "arc" my shot over or around anything now, they either fire straight into a wall, or I loose Target Lock. Working as intended.
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Post by [ധ¡к¡] oDDD on Jan 22, 2017 2:23:36 GMT -5
I don't notice much more or less in damage, but I do notice I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them anymore. They don't track over low obstacles any more, and you basically need to be in "line of site" to hit anything around a corner. If I try to "arc" my shot over or around anything now, they either fire straight into a wall, or I loose Target Lock. Well I've been running the "Pot Head Warrior" or AA Leo Ancile Aphid Leo since the Client update and have to say that the taller Leo still lobs Aphids overyou usual spots that I would use my Aphid Patton before. Only difference is I can Loiter in the open like a beast and just cause disruption as well as damage. If Ancile stays the same, expect to be hammered like usual by aphids just from harder to vanquish leos.
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Post by Asturias on Jan 22, 2017 2:53:35 GMT -5
I own 4 aphids and I know how easy it is to rack up damage simply by hiding, reloading, chucking, repeat. All non-LOS weapons need to be kept as an annoyance but incurring relatively low damage (like hydras and spirals). Suddenly, maps like Springfield are a breath of fresh air. All the other tighter maps are an aphid chuck-fest. Yeah, Powerplant very quickly changed from my favourite to my least enjoyed map after Aphids started becoming popular again. Just Aphids flying everywhere suppressing all movement, only Stalkers can get anywhere without being molested. I started running an Aphid Gep in my hangar just for PP and it's been so effortlessly simple there. Lots of free damage without ever having to face real danger, you can easily last 7min in the same bot and come in top 3 damage with just that single Aphid Gep. (And my Aphids aren't even that high-levelled yet.) It feels even more OP and untouchable than a 3T Fury on Canyon.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 22, 2017 8:52:50 GMT -5
I own 4 aphids and I know how easy it is to rack up damage simply by hiding, reloading, chucking, repeat. All non-LOS weapons need to be kept as an annoyance but incurring relatively low damage (like hydras and spirals). Suddenly, maps like Springfield are a breath of fresh air. All the other tighter maps are an aphid chuck-fest. Yeah, Powerplant very quickly changed from my favourite to my least enjoyed map after Aphids started becoming popular again. Just Aphids flying everywhere suppressing all movement, only Stalkers can get anywhere without being molested. I started running an Aphid Gep in my hangar just for PP and it's been so effortlessly simple there. Lots of free damage without ever having to face real danger, you can easily last 7min in the same bot and come in top 3 damage with just that single Aphid Gep. (And my Aphids aren't even that high-levelled yet.) It feels even more OP and untouchable than a 3T Fury on Canyon. Not even close. You just can't run willy nilly without a care. Be aware, because they still work great, just not AS great as before, but I've adjusted pretty well.
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johnny5
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Post by johnny5 on Jan 22, 2017 10:23:39 GMT -5
I don't notice much more or less in damage, but I do notice I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them anymore. They don't track over low obstacles any more, and you basically need to be in "line of site" to hit anything around a corner. If I try to "arc" my shot over or around anything now, they either fire straight into a wall, or I loose Target Lock. Working as intended. Intended or not, the game already has 5 other "line of site" weapon systems. I clearly do not have the finesse to utilize this weapon after this update. I'll be going back to the longer range weapons now. Just saying.
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Post by blastronaut on Jan 22, 2017 12:51:16 GMT -5
Use spirals if you are that bad at aiming.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 22, 2017 13:05:52 GMT -5
Use spirals if you are that bad at aiming. You have to shoot a heavy bot lots of times with spirals to kill it...not even close in terms of hitting power to most weps. Aphids even with reduced accuracy pack a punch. Although I guess if you can't aim, spirals, zenith and noricums might be the only weps you can use in this game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 17:30:02 GMT -5
Drives me nuts. Have a really good thing, or even improve a good thing, then........in short order gotta mess with it. Updates are a love/hate thing. You look forward to something new, or a fix, and you are weary of what's gonna go wrong or be bad/ruined. MM changes way too much.
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Post by kchan4487 on Jan 22, 2017 18:36:56 GMT -5
Drives me nuts. Have a really good thing, or even improve a good thing, then........in short order gotta mess with it. Updates are a love/hate thing. You look forward to something new, or a fix, and you are weary of what's gonna go wrong or be bad/ruined. MM changes way too much. There is such a thing as being too good an upgrade.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 19:23:16 GMT -5
Drives me nuts. Have a really good thing, or even improve a good thing, then........in short order gotta mess with it. Updates are a love/hate thing. You look forward to something new, or a fix, and you are weary of what's gonna go wrong or be bad/ruined. MM changes way too much. There is such a thing as being too good an upgrade. Nay, that's like saying your car is too fast, or your.......is too......., or your......is too...........!
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Post by kchan4487 on Jan 22, 2017 20:01:46 GMT -5
There is such a thing as being too good an upgrade. Nay, that's like saying your car is too fast, or your.......is too......., or your......is too...........! No it's not the same thing. Nobody else is affected by you having a faster car. Bringin aphids pre nerf is like bringing a gun to a knife fight. Nobody really stood a chance. Even when you have multiple enemies. Now, post nerf, it's more like bringing a sword to a knife fight. It's still more powerful than the other weapons, but a sufficiently skilled player can beat someone using it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 20:09:56 GMT -5
I will take one of custom Tantos I made against a dude with a 380 auto anyway, well, excluding Mondays. Seriously, you will not have an even fight all the time. There are some people that can use only their hands. Its not only the weapon, or bot, a lot is the pilot. Applies all over. Some are easily demonstrated, others you wouldnt want one.
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 23, 2017 0:02:25 GMT -5
As I understand that on Android the Aphid nerf has already taken effect. I am still savaging people with them, however they are not the effortless point and chuck from before. Also, taking them square on the shield significantly cuts down the damage but you need enough skill to point your shield so that they hit square.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 23, 2017 2:42:01 GMT -5
Lancelot's worst nightmare ever iF their accuracy Is increased..
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Post by FenixFall on Jan 23, 2017 6:36:56 GMT -5
What do you mean IF? Last few days I've noticed that aphids COMPLETELY bypass my Lance's frontal shields, even fired from in front of me. Doesn't hit the shields at all. At all.
Just finished a match with some turd running level 1 pattons and all level 11 aphids. One shot took my Lance with full health to around 40 percent. The was no cover and dash was on cool down. I brought out my Fujin next and he blindsided me again, took me to around 30 percent. Threw up my shield at full strength and the aphids wiped the shield and Fujin both on next volley.
Then I brought my Griffin out. Know what sucks when you're running level 1 pattons? Some maniac in a Griffin sitting in your spawn after blowing your head off. He did over 600k damage but lost the match.
Aphids are pretty sick. Against Lance? Death. They ignore the shield Every. Single. Time.
Otherwise I have no problem with them. That match forced me to adapt and it was fun sneaking around corners and waiting for him to fire at me or a team mate, counting the seconds as he reloaded and dashing from point to point. And one jump from the Griffin means he isn't firing for at me for at least a few seconds more.
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 23, 2017 9:21:53 GMT -5
What do you mean IF? Last few days I've noticed that aphids COMPLETELY bypass my Lance's frontal shields, even fired from in front of me. Doesn't hit the shields at all. At all. Sorry I should have specified, Rhino and Galahad. I don't have a Lancelot to provide feedback on. I assumed (incorrectly) you could do it with Lance too. I don't think Gareth actually has to worry at all anymore as long as they stay moving but I don't have one so I can't say that with authority. Also, Aphids on a Griffin during a jump recreate that high arc and greatly improve your chance of chucking them over objects even if they aren't LoS.
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Post by kchan4487 on Jan 23, 2017 10:15:14 GMT -5
What do you mean IF? Last few days I've noticed that aphids COMPLETELY bypass my Lance's frontal shields, even fired from in front of me. Doesn't hit the shields at all. At all. Sorry I should have specified, Rhino and Galahad. I don't have a Lancelot to provide feedback on. I assumed (incorrectly) you could do it with Lance too. I don't think Gareth actually has to worry at all anymore as long as they stay moving but I don't have one so I can't say that with authority. Also, Aphids on a Griffin during a jump recreate that high arc and greatly improve your chance of chucking them over objects even if they aren't LoS. If a properly piloted Cossack vs so-so pilot can completely evade aphids now, I don't see why a Gareth has anything to worry about with his speed.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 23, 2017 17:32:24 GMT -5
What do you mean IF? Last few days I've noticed that aphids COMPLETELY bypass my Lance's frontal shields, even fired from in front of me. Doesn't hit the shields at all. At all. Just finished a match with some turd running level 1 pattons and all level 11 aphids. One shot took my Lance with full health to around 40 percent. The was no cover and dash was on cool down. I brought out my Fujin next and he blindsided me again, took me to around 30 percent. Threw up my shield at full strength and the aphids wiped the shield and Fujin both on next volley. Then I brought my Griffin out. Know what sucks when you're running level 1 pattons? Some maniac in a Griffin sitting in your spawn after blowing your head off. He did over 600k damage but lost the match. Aphids are pretty sick. Against Lance? Death. They ignore the shield Every. Single. Time. Otherwise I have no problem with them. That match forced me to adapt and it was fun sneaking around corners and waiting for him to fire at me or a team mate, counting the seconds as he reloaded and dashing from point to point. And one jump from the Griffin means he isn't firing for at me for at least a few seconds more. Ahem, I mean if their accuracy get increased.
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Post by FenixFall on Jan 23, 2017 17:52:44 GMT -5
Fair enough but honestly I think every single missile connects. I think the arc causes them to strike just above the shields, allowing to bypass them and do full damage but I haven't seen any issues regarding accuracy. More accuracy really won't matter to a Lancelot.
As for the other shields, Rhino and Galahad shields have visibly better coverage. The Rhino shield is up high and Galahad just walks around with a brick wall covering his entire front. Those both work against Aphids pretty well in my experience.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 24, 2017 21:23:26 GMT -5
Ah alright
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 21:52:42 GMT -5
I finally succumbed to the aphid-chuck fest & bought my 2nd to run on db Griffin. Still not sure how much I like it, but cant deny the damage. I run 6/8-9 heavys, 1 Rhino, at that level they get torn up by aphid geps & pattons. In high gold on IOS, I have been seeing this a lot on griffins matched with orkan, Taran's. Hydra' s and tulumba's every once in a while. Also have been seeing them on rhino's, and three on Leo's, with either a Zeus or ECC. Of course I still see them on some leveled up gep's and definitely Patton's. I know that 2 agile pattons can take out my Lancelot before I can get to them. And my Rhino if they can get some side shots at me. All the while hiding behind walls or other obstructions. Power plant map is a good map for them I think. On on the yam map it seems standing at the bottom of the ramp is a viable shot to defend center beacon. I think most people who use them are already use to their flight path, especially the ones that grew up with at spirals in the lower tiers. I have a patton and a gep I will use occasionally and don't mind chucking them. I'm need to better at hiding after I do. For newer users I think it will just take a little more getting use to. Damage will remain the same and for experienced users there will only be a slight adjustment to still be annoying and devastating. I like to chuck em hate to get hit by em my opinion only, take it with a grain of salt, or completely ignore it. And the way my day has been going this might not even be revelant to this thread or anybody. So I'll apologize in advance or not. *Old man thinks he has had too many senior moments today.*
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 31, 2017 13:25:57 GMT -5
I'm still getting toasted by aphids. Even in my Galahad, I find the shield doesn't really block that much. Anyone else notice this? I've had to remove my magnums and go with 2 aphids of my own just to stand a chance.
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Post by piginapoke on Jul 31, 2017 14:22:47 GMT -5
Hello you cute Koalabear you. The nerfs in the original post were way back in January. This is a bit of an old post but you must have used the search feature so well done! Recently the aphids were buffed by around 5%. They are still a bit difficult to aim but with LVL 10 aphids you can do a lot of damage. I prefer using them with a Patton but to each his own. I have also bolted a pair of aphids in tandem with 2 tarans on a Griffin. Funny auto spell check corrected tarans to trans. That would look odd on a Griffin.
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