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Post by Demosthenes on Aug 26, 2017 14:44:24 GMT -5
Judging by your stats and league the griffins you generally see are going to be level nine and lower. Your "specialized" hanger will take you up to maybe diamond league before griffins at level 10 with comparable weapons will destroy most everything in your hanger. You're entitled to your opinion and dislike of the robot. I can't change that. But you make statements calling them inferior, but then later on stating it's not that it's a bad robot you just don't like it. So which one is it? What I clarified on was that I saw their being exceptionally common makes them inferior. I never said that they don't fight well, but they are easy to kill if you have the right bots. Plasma? Use the Galahad. Rocket? Use the Fujin. That is true of any 'bot. That is kinda the point. Galahad, use a RDB, Fujin use a PDB. There is no best 'bot or load-out, there are only preferences. Everyone is free to choose what they like, whether or not anyone else likes their choices is an opinion not a fact. I choose not to play any lancelots because I like fast, manouverable 'bots, and think playing a hangar with three Lances (and a lot of highly-ranked players do) would be deeply dull to me. That doesn't make it a bad choice if that's what they enjoy. Running loads of Griffins is not inferior or stupid however annoying you might find it. If you find them so easy to kill it should be the exact opposite of annoying.
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Post by sidebandit on Aug 26, 2017 14:51:17 GMT -5
5th slot priority gives you so much more. What you paid out on that hanger would have gone along a way to that extra slot. Any gold you get from now on put towards the 5th and bear in mind a Grif is a silver purchase ( easily obtainable).
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Post by _psychø on Aug 26, 2017 19:37:51 GMT -5
Easy to kill? Bro, sorry but one good RDB/DB player is able to destroy 3 out of 4 of your bots.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 19:58:34 GMT -5
I do agree with the title of your thread, but I disagree with the contents. I do not like stagnant meta of the upper leagues consisting of *just* Griffins and Lancelots. However, your statement below the first line is completely false. Griffins are one of the best, overpowered to a certain extent, robots in the game. It may be just because you are just in Silver League where you'll see tons of swiss-army Griffins but you're not going to convince anyone above. One or two skilled DB Griffins will take out your entire lineup.
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 27, 2017 1:54:31 GMT -5
Hmmmm.. If there so easy to kill, why would they be annoying? If there so inferior, why would they be so common? I think what we have here is a case of Griffin Envy mixed with the agitation that they wreck your 4 slot hangar often and your not comfortable with bots that have jump drive. Just sayin.. But carry on with your rant..im all ears.. and I got plenty of popcorn....:-) You think that I couldn't buy a Griffin if I wanted one? Each one of my bots specializes in taking down one type of Griffin it another... Well I can tell you that your plasmahad and Gareth, will not take my RDB Griffin down.
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Post by @pricker on Aug 27, 2017 2:23:14 GMT -5
You think that I couldn't buy a Griffin if I wanted one? Each one of my bots specializes in taking down one type of Griffin it another... Well I can tell you that your plasmahad and Gareth, will not take my RDB Griffin down. My butch trebs will take your rdb griff down
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 27, 2017 2:46:37 GMT -5
Well I can tell you that your plasmahad and Gareth, will not take my RDB Griffin down. My butch trebs will take your rdb griff down On 2 maps maybe, and that is maybe... you cool down and re-load time are tad too long. Other 3 maps you're screwed. ... Butch is soft target.
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Post by @pricker on Aug 27, 2017 3:09:56 GMT -5
My butch trebs will take your rdb griff down On 2 maps maybe, and that is maybe... you cool down and re-load time are tad too long. Other 3 maps you're screwed. ... Butch is soft target. On small maps you wont see a butch, youll see probably taran/ork doc popup after you unloaded your weaps on the guy in the center, just saying
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 27, 2017 4:43:36 GMT -5
On 2 maps maybe, and that is maybe... you cool down and re-load time are tad too long. Other 3 maps you're screwed. ... Butch is soft target. On small maps you wont see a butch, youll see probably taran/ork doc popup after you unloaded your weaps on the guy in the center, just saying Those ugly wild west bots? I eat them for brunch...
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Post by @pricker on Aug 27, 2017 5:34:58 GMT -5
On small maps you wont see a butch, youll see probably taran/ork doc popup after you unloaded your weaps on the guy in the center, just saying Those ugly wild west bots? I eat them for brunch... Mine are painted not that ugly , but you cant eat doc with rdb on small maps
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 27, 2017 6:14:57 GMT -5
Your right. We dont know when you bought 4000 au in paint jobs but we definitely know it was before you thought about a 5th slot. To be honest, the reason your getting so much flack is the tone of your comments. Your entitled to your opinion that you dont like Griffins, the problem is your mixing your opinion in as fact, stating its a "inferior" robot when all the data shows just the opposite. Further, you paint broad strokes about your knowledge of killing all sorts of Griffin load outs when you have 500 victories under your belt and are still in silver league. There is so much more to the game past the point your at. FWIW, I too didnt like Griffens when I was in Silver ( back before the MM change) and prefered Rogs over them all day. They were easy to kill with my Mag Geps and I thought little of them till I got into the upper leagues, Thats when you start to see how powerful and versatile they truly are and you start seeing pilots that really know how to run them. I'm not asking you to like them, just dont make statements like " its an inferior, stupid bot" When its obvious you dont have the experience in the game to make such bold statements. Well orkan/plasma rog > db griff, plasma griff > rog Depends. If you're talking about them going head to head, then I generally agree with you. But if you're talking about going up against a maxed out Ancilot, then DB Griffin is a lot > than Ork Rog. That's why I run both.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 27, 2017 6:22:34 GMT -5
Those ugly wild west bots? I eat them for brunch... Mine are painted not that ugly , but you cant eat doc with rdb on small maps No, MY 「wee-wee」 is bigger..... [sighs] fellas always love a pissing match haha
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Post by @pricker on Aug 27, 2017 6:50:04 GMT -5
Well orkan/plasma rog > db griff, plasma griff > rog Depends. If you're talking about them going head to head, then I generally agree with you. But if you're talking about going up against a maxed out Ancilot, then DB Griffin is a lot > than Ork Rog. That's why I run both. i was saying "orkan/plasma rog kills db griff, plasma griff kills rog"...against ancilot db griff is better ofcourse
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 27, 2017 7:05:27 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? I also have a genuine hatred of Griffins. However, my negative stance towards them has softened with time. My prejudice primarily stems from the fact that I hate to do anything if it seems that everyone else is doing it. I like to find my own way. I made it to iOS Expert 3 without running a Griffin, Rhino OR Lancelot. I'm still proud of that. But since then, through trying out the Rhino on the recommendation from some forum members, I applied those principles I learned and tried a Griffin again, and I can pilot it better now. While I still don't really enjoy using it, I don't deny that it fulfills an effective role in my hangar that is absolutely necessary for each game now in Expert 2. That's why I'm looking forward to the dashbots so much. I'm really hoping one of the two larger bots will fulfil the role my Griffin plays so I can replace him. Aside from my personal prejudice for meta setups, I also don't like that the hide and seek gameplay of Griffins stalls the action in matches, and also puts the onus on everyone else to cap the beacons. I have lost many matches due to too many Griffin pilots expecting everyone else to cap the beacons for them. But this is not saying that Griffins are not good for capping beacons, it is saying that many pilots use Griffins too passively just to score damage when the team needs to advance together to control the territory. Annoying? Definitely. Stupid? Depends on the pilot. Inferior? Not even close - this is just a prejudicial comment.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 27, 2017 7:11:59 GMT -5
Depends. If you're talking about them going head to head, then I generally agree with you. But if you're talking about going up against a maxed out Ancilot, then DB Griffin is a lot > than Ork Rog. That's why I run both. i was saying "orkan/plasma rog kills db griff, plasma griff kills rog"...against ancilot db griff is better ofcourse Yes, I was pretty sure that's what you meant. But practically speaking, your Rog or DB Griffin will encounter Ancilots much more frequently than they encounter each other, especially in upper tiers. So instead of quarrelling with your fellow jumping buddies, just team up against the real scourge of this game, those vacuous Ancilot pilots
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Post by @pricker on Aug 27, 2017 7:45:54 GMT -5
i was saying "orkan/plasma rog kills db griff, plasma griff kills rog"...against ancilot db griff is better ofcourse Yes, I was pretty sure that's what you meant. But practically speaking, your Rog or DB Griffin will encounter Ancilots much more frequently than they encounter each other, especially in upper tiers. So instead of quarrelling with your fellow jumping buddies, just team up against the real scourge of this game, those vacuous Ancilot pilots I dont run rog to kill db griffs or ancilots, when i run rog i go for center beacon when game starts and what i see first are rdbs rockets, for tarancilots i have db rhino wich almost all the time gets the job done
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 27, 2017 8:26:08 GMT -5
Yes, I was pretty sure that's what you meant. But practically speaking, your Rog or DB Griffin will encounter Ancilots much more frequently than they encounter each other, especially in upper tiers. So instead of quarrelling with your fellow jumping buddies, just team up against the real scourge of this game, those vacuous Ancilot pilots I dont run rog to kill db griffs or ancilots, when i run rog i go for center beacon when game starts and what i see first are rdbs rockets, for tarancilots i have db rhino wich almost all the time gets the job done Nice choice. Charge into their chest and pry that giant tin-can open
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 27, 2017 19:23:25 GMT -5
Mine are painted not that ugly , but you cant eat doc with rdb on small maps No, MY ?wee-wee? is bigger..... [sighs] fellas always love a pissing match haha We most certainly do...
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 27, 2017 19:24:21 GMT -5
Those ugly wild west bots? I eat them for brunch... Mine are painted not that ugly , but you cant eat doc with rdb on small maps Still ugly.... you can polish the turd as much as you like, it is still a turd.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:36:32 GMT -5
Easy to kill? Bro, sorry but one good RDB/DB player is able to destroy 3 out of 4 of your bots. I'd like to see them try
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Post by Heishiro on Aug 27, 2017 20:47:16 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? i think only top tier players do understand the purpose of the Griffin. honestly i dont think silver league guys need a griffin specially if they are just low level once you reach top tier or if you will reach top tier im sure you will know the griffin is one of the best bot.
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Aug 27, 2017 20:57:32 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? I usually pride myself on not posting usual one-liners but to answer your question... "No."
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 27, 2017 20:59:47 GMT -5
I do agree with the title of your thread, but I disagree with the contents. I do not like stagnant meta of the upper leagues consisting of *just* Griffins and Lancelots. However, your statement below the first line is completely false. Griffins are one of the best, overpowered to a certain extent, robots in the game. It may be just because you are just in Silver League where you'll see tons of swiss-army Griffins but you're not going to convince anyone above. One or two skilled DB Griffins will take out your entire lineup. Hell a powerhouse DB Griffin can take down an Ancilot with no sweat! Been a victim in heavy brawls!
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 27, 2017 21:00:53 GMT -5
Easy to kill? Bro, sorry but one good RDB/DB player is able to destroy 3 out of 4 of your bots. I'd like to see them try Wait till you run into Masters/Champions piloting a maxed DB Griffin, totally different from lower tiers, trust me. I've seen the best of both worlds!
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Post by @pricker on Aug 28, 2017 2:03:41 GMT -5
Mine are painted not that ugly , but you cant eat doc with rdb on small maps Still ugly.... you can polish the turd as much as you like, it is still a turd. It dosent metter how ugly it is as long as it can compete, that ugly thing can equip 4x orkans and turn your beautifull bot into smoke before you notice, its almost like a magician...there is you -> no more you just saying
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 28, 2017 2:08:03 GMT -5
Still ugly.... you can polish the turd as much as you like, it is still a turd. It dosent metter how ugly it is as long as it can compete, that ugly thing can equip 4x orkans and turn your beautifull bot into smoke before you notice, its almost like a magician...there is you -> no more you just saying 300m vs 500...again RDB wins..... PS love this kind of piss contest
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Post by @pricker on Aug 28, 2017 2:40:53 GMT -5
It dosent metter how ugly it is as long as it can compete, that ugly thing can equip 4x orkans and turn your beautifull bot into smoke before you notice, its almost like a magician...there is you -> no more you just saying 300m vs 500...again RDB wins..... PS love this kind of piss contest That depends on the map, i dont go with 300m range to kill a 500m range without cover, just spawning butch and have some fun from 1000m with rdbs.
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 28, 2017 2:42:52 GMT -5
300m vs 500...again RDB wins..... PS love this kind of piss contest That depends on the map, i dont go with 300m range to kill a 500m range without cover, just spawning butch and have some fun from 1000m with rdbs. Back to square 1 I see?
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Post by @pricker on Aug 28, 2017 2:58:37 GMT -5
That depends on the map, i dont go with 300m range to kill a 500m range without cover, just spawning butch and have some fun from 1000m with rdbs. Back to square 1 I see? nop, i just pointed out how i deal with rdbs on different situations, and before we close this conversation rdbs are going to be nerfed next update -5% dmg but i hope they nerf splash radius...than a rog will make rdbs life much harder even in long range maps, anyway rdb is good to have in your hanger its a strong mf
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 28, 2017 3:04:33 GMT -5
nop, i just pointed out how i deal with rdbs on different situations, and before we close this conversation rdbs are going to be nerfed next update -5% dmg but i hope they nerf splash radius...than a rog will make rdbs life much harder even in long range maps, anyway rdb is good to have in your hanger its a strong mf Well, if this is the case, here come dash bots instead
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