@pricker
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Post by @pricker on Aug 28, 2017 3:08:59 GMT -5
nop, i just pointed out how i deal with rdbs on different situations, and before we close this conversation rdbs are going to be nerfed next update -5% dmg but i hope they nerf splash radius...than a rog will make rdbs life much harder even in long range maps, anyway rdb is good to have in your hanger its a strong mf Well, if this is the case, here come dash bots instead Oh yes, cant wait to get 1 or 2 dash mk2
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 28, 2017 3:12:16 GMT -5
Well, if this is the case, here come dash bots instead Oh yes, cant wait to get 1 or 2 dash mk2 I will get 1 of each, and if I have enough gold ( if they are sold for gold) maybe decide which ones I want. Maybe MK1 is not good as it seem, as it packs only 2 med weapons, and you god be right, Mk2 and Mk3 ( Tarans/Orcans/Scrouge) not mixed, but 3 of the same kind.
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@pricker
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Posts: 83
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Pilot name: @pricker
Platform: Android
Clan: wikittens
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Favorite robot: rogatka
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Post by @pricker on Aug 28, 2017 3:16:40 GMT -5
Oh yes, cant wait to get 1 or 2 dash mk2 I will get 1 of each, and if I have enough gold ( if they are sold for gold) maybe decide which ones I want. Maybe MK1 is not good as it seem, as it packs only 2 med weapons, and you god be right, Mk2 and Mk3 ( Tarans/Orcans/Scrouge) not mixed, but 3 of the same kind. I want only mk2 because it combines fun with power, mk 1 is fun but less firepower, mk3 has firepower but its to slow
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 4:17:33 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? No
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Post by piginapoke on Aug 28, 2017 4:41:53 GMT -5
@taco2 In the end we choose the bots that best suite our style and what we have available.
The Griffin is a versatile bot and piloted by a good pilot, they can last a while. Sure they can be wrecked by plasma or missiles (if they are caught after a jump or sleeping) or by trebs but, until the new jumping robot comes into play, the griffin will remain a staple of many hangers.
Enjoy the game. Kill as many griffins as you can but do not underestimate them.
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Post by hurtbot on Aug 28, 2017 15:29:33 GMT -5
I have to admit that, given all the shady cash-grab antics we've seen from Pixonic, we haven't seen them attempt to supplant the venerable Griffin with something that people would actually have to pay gold for.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Aug 28, 2017 15:32:46 GMT -5
I have to admit that, given all the shady cash-grab antics we've seen from Pixonic, we haven't seen them attempt to supplant the venerable Griffin with something that people would actually have to pay gold for. They'd rather see you gamble away your life savings on the black market only to STILL find yourself without a dashbot to replace your Griffin....
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Post by sidebandit on Aug 28, 2017 15:53:35 GMT -5
I have to admit that, given all the shady cash-grab antics we've seen from Pixonic, we haven't seen them attempt to supplant the venerable Griffin with something that people would actually have to pay gold for. They'd rather see you gamble away your life savings on the black market only to STILL find yourself without a dashbot to replace your Griffin.... NOPE, anit gonna happen with me. Naturally I'll spin the wheel with keys I win but that's it. I think the p**s off for me at least, is that Pix have hyped these bots up so much after the last couple of months then say you can only get one by gambling real cash. I understand the limited introduction but they really needed to say "limited" from the get go. As someone already pointed out, yet another currency.
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Post by rollinfknpower on Aug 30, 2017 1:40:27 GMT -5
Silly topic but fun read. All of you messaging here should know there is a counter to every setup. Db Griffin will tear apart anything on the battlefield if it can get sustained fire to unload all of its weapons. It is also very vulnerable after as it is almost out of all ammo and probably without jump as well. I personally like the twin ork rog over the Griff but that's just my style. I like the faster bot. Ancilots are tough but firepower is severely lacking and with slow movement and large target are easily taken out with a bit of patience. No bot is superior in any loadout. What makes the Griff so great is it's versatility and cost. Cheap bot that can accommodate many different weapon platforms. Jack of all trades. I'll take a rog over a Griff for ambush or hit and run, a lance or rhino to spearhead a beacon push or occupation, Ect. One platform the Griff has no match in is midrange. Tulus and pins were made for the Griff. A well piloted rdb can own a battlefield. For a silver bot that's not too shabby. I have two in my hanger right now. A rdb and believe it or not a punisher Griff. No db Griff. I have the punisher because it just shreds ancilots. Want to try it against a rhino with new shield damage. Anyhow Griffs are good bots. Not the super bots some say but definitely not inferior either. Bang for the buck? By far the best bot in the game
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Aug 30, 2017 14:49:50 GMT -5
Griffins are so prevalent for a reason, they're super effective at many builds, and easily accessible & affordable by anyone. In higher league play, their value is even more justifiable when you factor investment costs. Probably why, at least in part it seems to me, that players start buying & working on them early in lower leagues; minimize silver currency waste and have stuff that'll last to end-game.
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Post by BingiDredd on Sept 1, 2017 12:38:37 GMT -5
I got one griffin in my hanger (hardly used) and yeh I hate these leaping vermin and since the rebalance they're everywhere just like vermin and must be eradicated, just like vermin. On Long maps like Springfield a few geks/trebs up their jaxcy they don't like that. As it goes imo geks/trebs are best anti leaping vermin weapons going and up yours if you complain about geks.
Happy hunting folks
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Post by waffles on Sept 4, 2017 23:29:21 GMT -5
My first eye-opening experience with the Griffin was on Canyon. I capped center beacon with a Thunder/Mag Leo, then bam-bam-bam, a red RDB Griffin from 400 meters just took a third of my health, and promptly hid behind cover. After a few seconds, bam, he took another third of my health. Finally I got hit a third time, and that was the end of me. He obliterated the rest of the blues who tried to get close to center beacon. I was so impressed that I got my RDB soon afterwards.
My second eye-opening experience was Power Plant. In a fully healthy DB Rhino, I charged to within 300m and unloaded on a DB griffin. Well, he jumped over me and unloaded as well. Needless to say, I was sent back to spawn, while he got away nary a scratch. I replaced my DB Rhino soon afterwards with a DB Griffin.
You'll have many such experiences. You'll eventually come to respect the bot. It's jump and 4 hardpoints make it a lethal killing machine.
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Post by Demosthenes on Sept 5, 2017 2:44:48 GMT -5
My RDB Griffin is a staple in my hangar. At the moment the sole mid-ranger. What I really like about the Griffin, especially in light of pix's sordid black market, is its accessibility: everyone can have as many as they like for Ag. I think having such an effective, versatile, affordable 'bot was by accident rather than design given pix's current behaviour.
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Post by anjian on Sept 9, 2017 4:13:48 GMT -5
I have to admit that, given all the shady cash-grab antics we've seen from Pixonic, we haven't seen them attempt to supplant the venerable Griffin with something that people would actually have to pay gold for. Just wait for the Inquisitor.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Sept 9, 2017 8:04:15 GMT -5
Careful with all this crying about Griffins...remember the Gepard...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 15:17:09 GMT -5
Why, just why, has this thread been people hating on my hangar? I never said that all people should copy my hangar. I never even said that it made me win more. I never needed people to convince me that I should get a 5th slot. This thread is about Griffins. If you have something to say about my hangar, my league, or anything else than keep it to yourself. If you want to argue Griffins, then go ahead. Thanks!
P.S. Start a new thread to talk about dash bots. Not here!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 15:47:14 GMT -5
Why, just why, has this thread been people hating on my hangar? I never said that all people should copy my hangar. I never even said that it made me win more. I never needed people to convince me that I should get a 5th slot. This thread is about Griffins. If you have something to say about my hangar, my league, or anything else than keep it to yourself. If you want to argue Griffins, then go ahead. Thanks! P.S. Start a new thread to talk about dash bots. Not here! Well, you started being off being very condescending, offensive even, to people who like to play Griffins, so what did you expect? Btw, people are making comments about your hangar (4 slots, type of bots) to show you that you have very little basis for making claims about what bots are "Annoying, stupid, and inferior".
P.S. You don't own the thread just cause you started it. You decide where it starts off, can't control where it goes after that.
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Post by BingiDredd on Sept 9, 2017 17:39:21 GMT -5
Jump on band wagon why don't you all like you've already have as to the reason he's p***ed off
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Post by BingiDredd on Sept 9, 2017 17:45:32 GMT -5
And you current users of Griff suck, bouncing across Springfield trying to get revenge on me for microwaving ya butts thinking 'I'm gonna get ya'. I'll toast you up until another team mate of mine finishes what I started. Oh, in your rage you forgot I had team mates? Too focused on me you were. Nexxxxt!!
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Post by sidebandit on Sept 9, 2017 18:30:41 GMT -5
I got one griffin in my hanger (hardly used) and yeh I hate these leaping vermin and since the rebalance they're everywhere just like vermin and must be eradicated, just like vermin. On Long maps like Springfield a few geks/trebs up their jaxcy they don't like that. As it goes imo geks/trebs are best anti leaping vermin weapons going and up yours if you complain about geks. Happy hunting folks Anyone try a leaping vermin with scourges and geks
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Sept 9, 2017 18:39:54 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? It's this kind of closed-mindedness that stops you from excelling. Just because you hate griffins doesn't mean they serve no good purpose. Look at the PROS, They are EXTREMELY CHEAP, EXTREMELY VERSATILE, Relatively low skill requirement. CONS? You don't like 'em.
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on Sept 9, 2017 18:41:12 GMT -5
I got one griffin in my hanger (hardly used) and yeh I hate these leaping vermin and since the rebalance they're everywhere just like vermin and must be eradicated, just like vermin. On Long maps like Springfield a few geks/trebs up their jaxcy they don't like that. As it goes imo geks/trebs are best anti leaping vermin weapons going and up yours if you complain about geks. Happy hunting folks Anyone try a leaping vermin with scourges and geks I have, the vermin isn't great for advertising LGBTQ colors though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 23:57:18 GMT -5
Going through the game, I have grown to hate Griffins. They are common, easy to kill, and annoying. I think of them the same way that I think of house insects: Annoying, stupid, and inferior. I have none in my hangar. Does anyone else feel the same? It's this kind of closed-mindedness that stops you from excelling. Just because you hate griffins doesn't mean they serve no good purpose. Look at the PROS, They are EXTREMELY CHEAP, EXTREMELY VERSATILE, Relatively low skill requirement. CONS? You don't like 'em. Griffins have a low skill requirement and a fairly low skill ceiling. All of the 9/9 hangars in silver/low gold, and all of the crap spam up to diamond of 10/10- max griffin hangars isn't solely from tankers. RDBs in particular have a low skill cieling post 2.9, as they take very little effort to aim, and no longer have the drawback of the old 18 sec reload of the Tulus. I've grown to despise Griffins out of their sheer ease of use, and only use them as placeholders for Rhino/weapons that need to be leveled. Easy doesn't equate to awesome for me as it does for others. Mail.ru has gone out of their way to keep the other AG bots inferior, with the changes to Ag lights being straight nerfs, and the changes to Ag mediums being lackluster at best. But alas, they only look at raw stats, and rarely do the people that make decisions on the game, play the game. Sure, destrier and Lancelot could have similar win rates and similar usage ratings server wide, but you won't (or will be sorely dissatisfied when you do) see the former over the latter on your team.
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Post by Demosthenes on Sept 10, 2017 3:59:10 GMT -5
I am not sure about the "low skill" ceiling. I think it takes a lot of skill to use, say, a PDB Griffin, effectively. Certainly more patience than I have.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 7:10:38 GMT -5
And you current users of Griff suck, bouncing across Springfield trying to get revenge on me for microwaving ya butts thinking 'I'm gonna get ya'. I'll toast you up until another team mate of mine finishes what I started. Oh, in your rage you forgot I had team mates? Too focused on me you were. Nexxxxt!! you cannot possibly be this 「slow」 in real life, so act accordingly and stop being a troll.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 7:12:41 GMT -5
It's this kind of closed-mindedness that stops you from excelling. Just because you hate griffins doesn't mean they serve no good purpose. Look at the PROS, They are EXTREMELY CHEAP, EXTREMELY VERSATILE, Relatively low skill requirement. CONS? You don't like 'em. Griffins have a low skill requirement and a fairly low skill ceiling. All of the 9/9 hangars in silver/low gold, and all of the crap spam up to diamond of 10/10- max griffin hangars isn't solely from tankers. RDBs in particular have a low skill cieling post 2.9, as they take very little effort to aim, and no longer have the drawback of the old 18 sec reload of the Tulus. I've grown to despise Griffins out of their sheer ease of use, and only use them as placeholders for Rhino/weapons that need to be leveled. Easy doesn't equate to awesome for me as it does for others. Mail.ru has gone out of their way to keep the other AG bots inferior, with the changes to Ag lights being straight nerfs, and the changes to Ag mediums being lackluster at best. But alas, they only look at raw stats, and rarely do the people that make decisions on the game, play the game. Sure, destrier and Lancelot could have similar win rates and similar usage ratings server wide, but you won't (or will be sorely dissatisfied when you do) see the former over the latter on your team. Tin, I don't know about the rest, but claiming that griffins have a low skill ceiling is just dumb. Plasma and db griffs have some of the highest skill ceiling in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 7:50:56 GMT -5
Tin, I don't know about the rest, but claiming that griffins have a low skill ceiling is just dumb. Plasma and db griffs have some of the highest skill ceiling in the game. I think Tin is implying that Griffins have a lower skill requirement as compared to other robots. There is some skill needed to pilot Griffins in top tier, but if you compare the skill and luck needed to pilot, say, a Rog or a Stalker there, you'll be needing much more skill than a Griffin pilot. Much more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 8:44:48 GMT -5
Tin, I don't know about the rest, but claiming that griffins have a low skill ceiling is just dumb. Plasma and db griffs have some of the highest skill ceiling in the game. I think Tin is implying that Griffins have a lower skill requirement as compared to other robots. There is some skill needed to pilot Griffins in top tier, but if you compare the skill and luck needed to pilot, say, a Rog or a Stalker there, you'll be needing much more skill than a Griffin pilot. Much more. Skill requirement is quite different from skill ceiling. Stalkers are irrelevant in top as they're not used. Rog is tricky to use well, yes, but it is much more forgiving when making a mistake. In any case, the argument is rubbish. People here seem to think that using a griffin to it's maximum potential is trivial. There are more variables than I think any of the people talking trash about griffins here understand. It is probably the hardest thing to do in this game and there are very few people in the game that are able to do it consistently. I don't include myself in that category and even I could mop the floor with any of you.
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@pricker
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Post by @pricker on Sept 10, 2017 9:27:13 GMT -5
Talking about skill using griff, let me be clear you need skill to pilot enything in this game, griff compared to other bots are by far easy to pilot (easy thats why they are so popular, easy and effective!) Skill needed to use a griff? stay behind cover jump pew pew red dead or jump to engage pew pew red dead or engage pew pew red not dead use jump to escape, very hard...impossible to learn. How to kill a griff? Wait till he uses its jump engage pew pew griff dead
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 9:57:25 GMT -5
Talking about skill using griff, let me be clear you need skill to pilot enything in this game, griff compared to other bots are by far easy to pilot (easy thats why they are so popular, easy and effective!) Skill needed to use a griff? stay behind cover jump pew pew red dead or jump to engage pew pew red dead or engage pew pew red not dead use jump to escape, very hard...impossible to learn. How to kill a griff? Wait till he uses its jump engage pew pew griff dead Well... If that's the case, why don't you show a pic with your awesome stats after playing griffins for a while. Should be easy, right?
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