Griffins, Griffins, everywhere! Let's show some diversity!

Your stats are fine for your bot/weapon levels and suggest that you're a good player, but my point is that if griffins are so easy to play it should be easy for you to get at least a 1.5 mill game/750 avg with a couple of them in there, right?

My £ 0.02: I think the skill-factor for Griffins, particularly for short-ranges, is not that which is needed to manoeuvre the 'bot, or that which is needed to control the 'bot, it is in knowing when to do so. More so than for many other 'bots. It is very unforgiving of mistakes.

I no longer try using a PDB Griffin 'cos I just die, fast.

The Rogatka, my favourite fun 'bot, takes more skill to control and manoeuvre to utilise all its strengths, but the shorter jump cool-down and higher base speed makes it more forgiving of mistakes.

Which makes it OK???

All pilots have to know what you wrote above, not only those ho play griffs!

I actually went back to my original account, that hasnt been touched in 2 years. All of the tinkering etc is at an end for me, so I'm behind the curve for no other reason than wanting my original IGN. Highest Ive taken 6/6 griffins is Diamond 3. 6/6 bots, Diamond 3, 6/6 bots, 900k damage. If griffins were difficult we wouldn't see as many of them. They take basic map knowledge and cover and abuse them better than any other bot in the game. The bot is easy, and promotes very little growth past general positional awareness. It is tied for most firepower in the game, and can ignore cover with almost every set it can equip, which is why it's performance is the most consistent in the game.

Difficult bots aren't relevant because they're difficult. Rog is a downward trend because not being able to DB bots makes it LESS forgiving, forcing it to reposition more (more moves = more chance to fail/get countered), whereas a griffin can usually win a 1 v 1 damage race, and is the bot that is forcing other bots to reposition.
Stalker isnt used because of how 「slow」 Rocket splash (RDB Griffin) is, and how incredibly common it is to get hit by these rockets when they explode 3 to 4 bot lengths away. Same goes for every other light/medium bot in the game that doesn't lag tele...I mean cheat...I mean dash...

If you enjoy a hangar full of Griffs, no one is stopping you. I stand by them being easy and forgiving, because I used them when they only went 25kmph, and had 15-20 second reloads where they could be punished. Now they move at 35kmph, and have no window to punish/evade if they're "skilled" enough to stop firing when the first few rounds don't connect, or "skilled" enough to not try to brawl on reload fire. It has the mid-line in terms of healtg, and is one of few bots that can DB effectively, and because of that, every bot that can't kill in 4 seconds, or be rigged to live after sustaining fire that can kill in 4 seconds, is "not relevant"

Well, I'm not going to jump in between you while you're sniping at each other (pun was unintended at first, but I realized that it was apprapo, so I left it in). I will say, that I have at least one of most of the Bots and weapons released prior to the WW release. Fujin, Raijin, and Lancelot being the exceptions. While, I am hardly a professional at the game, having played for a little over six months, and currently being at Android Diamond III. But I must say, that of all the robots in my hangar, I have found the Griffin to be the most user friendly and versatile of all the robots. It can also sometimes be a very frustrating beast, both while piloting one, but mostly when fighting against one. I have six variously dressed Griffs, and usually use three or four in every battle. The fact that I have six Griffs and no more than two of any other Bot testifies to my faith in them. Some may question my intelligence or strategy, but not my trust in the Griffin. Just because I don't use my Rhino, Natashas, or Leos regularly, it doesn't necessarily mean I have no use, or distrust them. I still have a Cossack, Destrier, and Shutze, but I don't use them often. Not because I don't trust them. I might have a need for them someday, just not now. Just because my current playing style doesn't require their services, doesn't mean they won't be required in the future.

We all have our likes and dislikes, and different playing styles. Some people dislike Griffs, others dislike snipers. Some favor Rhinos over Griffs, some, the other way around. There are those who prefer sniping, others prefer midrange fighting, while others prefer knife fighting. The bottom line is, War Robots wouldn't be what it is today without all three, the knife fighters in the trenches capping beacons, while the long and midrange snipers support them by slowing down or stopping enemy reinforcements. The Brit Bots more than likely couldn't win the battle on their own without the short and midrange support of the Griffs and Rhinos, and the Griffs and Rhinos receive armored assistance from the Brit Bots. And the short and midrange fighers are supported by Nattys, Leos, and Butches up on the hills. There's no right or wrong Bot, and no right or wrong weapon.  How one uses their Bots and weapons... Ah, that's another thing altogether.

Though it sounds very cliche', this game is a UN (despite their difference in opinions) of Bots and weapons, each one working together as a team to win.

Tin, I have much respect for the matchmaker analysis you did way back.
This, however... You are, if your profile is up-to-date, in the Silver league. If so, you have no basis for a relevant opinion of what bots are easy or hard to play in higher tiers.

Jesus Christ, you guys are brutal. The OP was just expressing his opinion, which is what rant threads are for.

Why are you guys getting your panties in such a bunch? Because he said Griffins are stupid? Really don't think he was calling all Griffin players stupid, just the bots. He seems young and that's just the way kids talk about stuff they don't like.

And even if he was calling you stupid, so firetrucking what. Are you really that insecure and/or thin-skinned that some internet rando insinuating you're stupid requires you to launch a nuclear counterstrike?

Get some freaking perspective, people.

He didn't start a thread calling everybody on the forum a bunch of disease-carrying monkey molesters. Didn't accuse anybody of cheating at War Robots to make up for their small genitalia. Didn't even insult our mamas. He just used a little hyperbole to describe a bot he doesn't like.

Everybody on the forum does that from time to time.

If you don't agree with him about Griffins - I don't - just move on to the next thread. Or post a rational response explaining why you feel differently, as a couple guys did. But damn, how about we save the vitriol for the real trolls?

Alrighty folks, keep it civil

Perhaps the most epic Necro ever, lol

Well I don't think I have seen a Griffin in battle for well over a year.... Saying that, since this thread was started, the Griffin has had 1 module slot added and a legendary pilot that makes it way OP in this current meta 

Like most players, I started with Griffins as well, slowly built semi decent hangars by winning/building better bots.

I'd love to still run bots like Kumiho and Rogatka but sadly, no magic ability means you don't last very long in Champions League and you probably get reported for tanking to boot.