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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 3, 2017 1:00:20 GMT -5
Most caps AND within 2/3rds of most Blue damage? ....oh, right. And that's four caps on *Springfield*! That right there? 8 point hit to my league score. Most caps on loss should prevent a major league point loss just like most damage would. Ratsafratsa!
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Post by hyderier on Aug 3, 2017 1:07:36 GMT -5
Ummm. So losing side needs to lose that about 30 league points net total (CBA to check the exact number). How would you distribute the loss then?
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 3, 2017 1:23:03 GMT -5
Ummm. So losing side needs to lose that about 30 league points net total (CBA to check the exact number). How would you distribute the loss then? Interesting question.... Top 2 damage and top cap on team earn bonuses of +4 to +6, total of +15 to team. (I think top damage and caps for the total game should get a bonus, too, but that would compute differently.) - then each losing Blue gets -2 points. (+3 team total) - then least damage/caps gets -8 points (-13 team total) - then 2nd least damage/caps gets -6 points (-25 total) - then 3rd least damage gets -3 points (-28 total) - ....and 3rd most damage gets -2 points (-30 total) ...or thereabouts. Look, I got out-damaged. I'm not saying I deserve +10. I'm saying that the loss was a bit unreasonably large, particularly for what was objectively a great showing.
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Post by zr on Aug 3, 2017 1:28:16 GMT -5
I,m seeing this a lot, just got in to Diamond 2 on Android I,m getting -22 with 450k damage, 5 kills, 4 beacons, sucks! But what can you do? Playing solo
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Post by hyderier on Aug 3, 2017 1:43:17 GMT -5
Now don't get me wrong. I can also sympathize with the situation. Sometimes everybody on losing side is very close to each others. Yet one gets +10, other gets -22. It happens to everybody.
But that's also how it is with winning. Sometimes it's also a matter of split seconds wether one gets for example +2 or -22.
The way to look at this is, it doesn't favor playing it safe. It's like, you win or you lose. And you do more damage or you do less damage than somebody else.
It averages out over many games. That is how you stop rising in leagues when you can't out-damage people matched with you any more.
Of course then there's the tangent on how MM mixes leagues, and how it isn't really fair if a Gold player loses/gains as much league points whether they lose/win against an Expert or a Bronze... Which I think is a real unfairness issue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 1:47:11 GMT -5
Just play....
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Post by wildboar on Aug 3, 2017 2:18:08 GMT -5
"[*DV*] Ha ha looser" .... made me smile ... not sure he meant looser
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Post by mijapi300 on Aug 3, 2017 22:36:31 GMT -5
I think that's just an indicator of an overall really fun and hard fought battle. I don't mind losing league points if it's a tradeoff for being part of a in match. League points really mean nothing, aside from attempting to sort you within the matchmaker.
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Post by mechtout on Aug 3, 2017 23:10:50 GMT -5
-8 aint bad, sometimes you lose much more than that placing fourth, so i think you get credited for the beacons.
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Post by moses on Aug 4, 2017 1:38:46 GMT -5
-8 aint bad, sometimes you lose much more than that placing fourth, so i think you get credited for the beacons. You do get credit for the beacons. Most beacons capped out of the 12 players gets +3 league points. There is also +2 and +1 for second and third place beacons. If two players have equal beacon capture then they are sorted by damage (from Pixonic release notes). i think actually the solution to a lot of these complaints would be to rebalance the league points split - trim a few points from the top 2-4 winners and use this pool of something like 4-10 league points to bump up the beacon capped bonus. I also think beacon metric should be updated to include a point for taking down a red beacon . So 1 point for turning red beacon white, 1 more for white to blue. This will give a bigger number spread and hence should reduce the frequency of multiple players sharing top beacon spot.
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Post by _psychø on Aug 4, 2017 6:18:24 GMT -5
Sometimes you end up losing more than 15 points when you try hard to get beacons so you even forget about damage.
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Post by NerfDroid [Retired] on Aug 7, 2017 1:57:25 GMT -5
"[*DV*] Ha ha looser" .... made me smile ... not sure he meant looser That's the first thing I noticed as well.
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