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Post by _psychø on Jul 28, 2017 7:11:21 GMT -5
So.. that's the question, what will you do if the dash bots will cost 14k gold? Will you also buy any of them? If not, then What will you spend your gold on? I'd probably get a Rog and two orkans..
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Post by hyderier on Jul 28, 2017 7:15:58 GMT -5
I have 6k Au soonish. I make maybe 80 Au/day on average. The next meta shifter, the Descend/Inquisitor bot is probably available by the time I have 14k saved up...
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Post by hyderier on Jul 28, 2017 7:32:11 GMT -5
I have some vague idea what I will spend my saved gold on if dashes are out of reach.
If Lancelot is still good, I may get my 1st, but I doubt that. It's going to be the era of speed. Galahad and Carnage (with its rush) are going to be the slowest bots worth investing on, maybe Rhino too. Except rocket era probably continues (...or resumes on Android), which makes shield bots niche.
So I might use Au to get a 2nd pair of Orkans and maybe a 2nd Rogatka (or use Griff DB), if that remains a viable setup. This is the only thing I would dare to buy if I had to spend that ~5k Au today.
Scourge and Tempest are of course on the table too. No idea of the price, but probably not cheap. Tempest can't be more expensive than Zeus if Au, or it is not a goid buy. It could be more expensive than Trident if WSP, but not much. Any Tempest setup is competing with a very mobile Molot Griffin, or the Zeus-Gecko setup in Au side.
I see a Scourge Rhino or Griffin as a possibility: get close, unleash pain.
Whatever I do, I won't be the first to test what works and what doesn't...
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Jul 28, 2017 8:24:37 GMT -5
If it's 14k Au i will not buy it.
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Post by seanh on Jul 28, 2017 8:50:07 GMT -5
I clicked yes as since the event I have a pile of gold, not far off 14k. So I would buy one with the stockpile. If I didn't have a stockpile? Not so sure, would never be able to grind to 14k, so it would be RM spend and I would be very slow to do that. Plenty of other things in the real world I could spend that cash on.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Jul 28, 2017 8:52:58 GMT -5
If the Dash bots are that pricey, either a counter will be figured out or else a lot of people (myself included) will spend a lot less time playing War Robots.
Just a couple thoughts while we're here:
The Dash mechs with one jump were okay, and I loved them. With two rapidly successive jumps, they're outright ludicrous.
I had a thought. Recently I just started playing another game online, and their business model is quite interesting. Here's what they're doing:
Three in-game currencies. One can be earned ONLY through battle, one is earned through reward chests earned through logging in or playing a certain number of matches per day, and the other currency can ONLY be purchased for RWD. Each character in the game is purchasable for the Battle currency and one of the two other currencies.
What's really different, however, is that this game DOES NOT offer huge advantages to those who pay to play. You can pay RWD to buy certain characters, but due to how the game is structured you'll still only be as good as your skill makes you. Paying money will get you a cool character, but using it right is still up to you. The RWD purchase the devs decided to push is their premium membership. Which offers increased rewards for each match, etc., the usual stuff. It's not a huge advantage, but it also doesn't cost much for premium membership.
Which is brilliant. Rather than creating equipment or characters which can only be purchased for RWD and which provide an immediate advantage, they want players instead to play the game and buy premium memberships. That's what they've decided to focus on.
Imagine what War Robots might look like with something similar:
Current Premium membership Ag payouts;
+20% Au payouts for Premium members for match rewards and leveling up;
+2 upgrade slots;
-10% upgrade price
Within the first month (or two) after release, new mechs and gear can only be purchased by members with a Premium account.
Occasional releases of skins that can be acquired only with a Premium membership
Membership would cost $15 per month or close to it. And then the ridiculous time-limited currencies they've taken to using could be scrapped, nor would there be any need to make new mechs exorbitantly priced. They need to focus on Premium membership benefits, and the rest of the game will take care of itself.
But, back on topic, no. I'd never pay 14k Au for a single mech. That's almost three Lancelots or Furies. Again, if they cost that much and there's no way to counter them with current mechs and gear, I'll be bidding a sad farewell to War Robots.
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Post by ☆ CORVUSNEX ☆ on Jul 28, 2017 9:09:03 GMT -5
If the Dash bots are that pricey, either a counter will be figured out or else a lot of people (myself included) will spend a lot less time playing War Robots. Just a couple thoughts while we're here: The Dash mechs with one jump were okay, and I loved them. With two rapidly successive jumps, they're outright ludicrous. I had a thought. Recently I just started playing another game online, and their business model is quite interesting. Here's what they're doing: Three in-game currencies. One can be earned ONLY through battle, one is earned through reward chests earned through logging in or playing a certain number of matches per day, and the other currency can ONLY be purchased for RWD. Each character in the game is purchasable for the Battle currency and one of the two other currencies. What's really different, however, is that this game DOES NOT offer huge advantages to those who pay to play. You can pay RWD to buy certain characters, but due to how the game is structured you'll still only be as good as your skill makes you. Paying money will get you a cool character, but using it right is still up to you. The RWD purchase the devs decided to push is their premium membership. Which offers increased rewards for each match, etc., the usual stuff. It's not a huge advantage, but it also doesn't cost much for premium membership. Which is brilliant. Rather than creating equipment or characters which can only be purchased for RWD and which provide an immediate advantage, they want players instead to play the game and buy premium memberships. That's what they've decided to focus on. Imagine what War Robots might look like with something similar: Current Premium membership Ag payouts; +20% Au payouts for Premium members for match rewards and leveling up; +2 upgrade slots; -10% upgrade price Within the first month (or two) after release, new mechs and gear can only be purchased by members with a Premium account. Occasional releases of skins that can be acquired only with a Premium membership Membership would cost $15 per month or close to it. And then the ridiculous time-limited currencies they've taken to using could be scrapped, nor would there be any need to make new mechs exorbitantly priced. They need to focus on Premium membership benefits, and the rest of the game will take care of itself. But, back on topic, no. I'd never pay 14k Au for a single mech. That's almost three Lancelots or Furies. Again, if they cost that much and there's no way to counter them with current mechs and gear, I'll be bidding a sad farewell to War Robots. I have 14k Au sitting around doing nothing (all earned, no $$ spent) and would consider buying a Dash bot if it cost that much. I have nothing else to spend my Au on. However, I probably would not do so for the reasons you mentioned: 14k is almost the price of 3 Lances or Furies and 1 Dash can't have enough combat power to justify that price. And in the unlikely event that it DOES have 14k Au worth of power, then I will probably stop playing War Robots as it would clearly be a P2W situation. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 28, 2017 9:23:47 GMT -5
I have been saving for a dash bot (or 2 depending on the cost) and the Scourge too and am almost at 14K Au. If the actual price ends up being 14K for one, I will likely still get one, though I will not buy one right away due to the risk of picking the wrong one. I will wait to see how they play on the field first and let others test them out for me so I can find the best value. I'm in no hurry.
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Jul 28, 2017 10:07:06 GMT -5
I never bought a Wild West bot.. tho I won a Jesse and a DOC in events..
I will never buy a bot for 14k.. NOT spending a hundred bucks for a bot.. Hell for that matter I will never spend 5k for a Bot.. I won the Lance I have..
Now mind you, i will buy 100 bucks in AU for the events, as those have some real world value to them and I have done very well with them..
I will spend $$ on upgrading weapons.. just not on Bots..
At the end of the day, when I see skilled players doing what they do in Griff's.. why spend the money on the bot.. for me.. spend it on weapons that kill those high $$ Bots
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Post by agentorange on Jul 28, 2017 10:09:42 GMT -5
Yes. I have been saving gold for a bit of time now and have about 14k and nothing else I really desire. If this bot is half as OP as its stats and test reports indicate then extreme pricing is in everyones best interest. Drowning the game with cheap and powerful bots would drive a stake thru WRs heart. Much better to keep it rare so full dash hangars are far and few between.
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Post by 0ppressor on Jul 28, 2017 10:15:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I just hope they don't cost Influence Points (or at least more than 3500).
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Post by snake5431 on Jul 28, 2017 10:32:22 GMT -5
I have a hard time getting gold and I still don't have 5 slots. I would rather get a rog, fury, orkans, or gekkos if I spent money on gold. Can you please add more things that cost silver or workshop points?
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Post by agentorange on Jul 28, 2017 10:33:39 GMT -5
Bottom line they need a built in rarity mechanism or the game will become over saturated with with this new breed of "high skill" bots that strangely seems to coincide with a general dumbing down of existing and long established gameplay.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jul 28, 2017 10:35:47 GMT -5
I voted No. Mostly because I feel that I can get by on my current bots and a few Scourge weapons.
Another factor is that I can see the new Descend Heavy bot being good choice and I think I can wait until that bot lands before I make another bot purchase after seeing how they all interact.
The bottom line is that I believe I have plenty of time and that I don't feel that I need to rush out and buy any of the new stuff immediatly.
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Post by Domino on Jul 28, 2017 10:37:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately if it's 14k, people will buy it and they will spend even more money to level it up instantly. As I saw after 1 day with Tempest (3x lv 12 Tempest Fury). If nobody buys it, they will just reduce the price to the point it will sell. Supply and demand.
I have 10k saved for whats about to come up howeverto spend 14k on a bot would only justify the marketing BS (assuming).
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Post by snake5431 on Jul 28, 2017 10:39:32 GMT -5
If the Dash bots are that pricey, either a counter will be figured out or else a lot of people (myself included) will spend a lot less time playing War Robots. Just a couple thoughts while we're here: The Dash mechs with one jump were okay, and I loved them. With two rapidly successive jumps, they're outright ludicrous. I had a thought. Recently I just started playing another game online, and their business model is quite interesting. Here's what they're doing: Three in-game currencies. One can be earned ONLY through battle, one is earned through reward chests earned through logging in or playing a certain number of matches per day, and the other currency can ONLY be purchased for RWD. Each character in the game is purchasable for the Battle currency and one of the two other currencies. What's really different, however, is that this game DOES NOT offer huge advantages to those who pay to play. You can pay RWD to buy certain characters, but due to how the game is structured you'll still only be as good as your skill makes you. Paying money will get you a cool character, but using it right is still up to you. The RWD purchase the devs decided to push is their premium membership. Which offers increased rewards for each match, etc., the usual stuff. It's not a huge advantage, but it also doesn't cost much for premium membership. Which is brilliant. Rather than creating equipment or characters which can only be purchased for RWD and which provide an immediate advantage, they want players instead to play the game and buy premium memberships. That's what they've decided to focus on. Imagine what War Robots might look like with something similar: Current Premium membership Ag payouts; +20% Au payouts for Premium members for match rewards and leveling up; +2 upgrade slots; -10% upgrade price Within the first month (or two) after release, new mechs and gear can only be purchased by members with a Premium account. Occasional releases of skins that can be acquired only with a Premium membership Membership would cost $15 per month or close to it. And then the ridiculous time-limited currencies they've taken to using could be scrapped, nor would there be any need to make new mechs exorbitantly priced. They need to focus on Premium membership benefits, and the rest of the game will take care of itself. But, back on topic, no. I'd never pay 14k Au for a single mech. That's almost three Lancelots or Furies. Again, if they cost that much and there's no way to counter them with current mechs and gear, I'll be bidding a sad farewell to War Robots. I have 14k Au sitting around doing nothing (all earned, no $$ spent) and would consider buying a Dash bot if it cost that much. I have nothing else to spend my Au on. However, I probably would not do so for the reasons you mentioned: 14k is almost the price of 3 Lances or Furies and 1 Dash can't have enough combat power to justify that price. And in the unlikely event that it DOES have 14k Au worth of power, then I will probably stop playing War Robots as it would clearly be a P2W situation. I can counter any robot with my defiance and knife fighter bots so if I can't afford these bots, I say bring it on. |
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Post by Poopface on Jul 28, 2017 12:26:58 GMT -5
I can counter any robot with my defiance......., I say bring it on.  |
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Post by Ron Gaul on Jul 28, 2017 12:27:17 GMT -5
snake5431, have you seen the Dash mechs in action? I tested them fairly extensively, and if the pilot is halfway decent, virtually nothing in the game can compete. Except another Dash.
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Post by _psychø on Jul 28, 2017 13:44:42 GMT -5
Yes. I have been saving gold for a bit of time now and have about 14k and nothing else I really desire. If this bot is half as OP as its stats and test reports indicate then extreme pricing is in everyones best interest. Drowning the game with cheap and powerful bots would drive a stake thru WRs heart. Much better to keep it rare so full dash hangars are far and few between. I do agree with that but if they'd be 14k, it's just too much, that price is listed as the same for all of the three so the small mk1 Dash would also cost 14k which is not fair, nobody would be happy if the Jesse costs the same as the butch. Honestly, I just hope they don't cost Influence Points (or at least more than 3500). I have 12 IP  but in general, I wouldn't like them to cost IP unless they change the the way they're earned so you can earn them in the same/similar amounts of gold, by playing the game. |
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Post by fatdogmagic on Jul 28, 2017 13:57:14 GMT -5
I answered yes. I have 21k gold that I have been saving for months to get a dash bot or two and a few scourges to go with them. I don't have anything else to spend the gold on so I will bite the bullet and pay the price.
However, I don't think the MKI and MKII will cost 14k. I could see 5k, 10k, and 15k for the 3 but that's a total guess
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Post by hyderier on Jul 28, 2017 14:04:11 GMT -5
I have 12 IP but in general, I wouldn't like them to cost IP unless they change the the way they're earned so you can earn them in the same/similar amounts of gold, by playing the game. But you can buy IP with Au, so you can get them by just playing the game. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 28, 2017 14:06:38 GMT -5
I voted No. Mostly because I feel that I can get by on my current bots and a few Scourge weapons. Another factor is that I can see the new Descend Heavy bot being good choice and I think I can wait until that bot lands before I make another bot purchase after seeing how they all interact. The bottom line is that I believe I have plenty of time and that I don't feel that I need to rush out and buy any of the new stuff immediatly.
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Post by _psychø on Jul 28, 2017 14:10:56 GMT -5
I have 12 IP but in general, I wouldn't like them to cost IP unless they change the the way they're earned so you can earn them in the same/similar amounts of gold, by playing the game. But you can buy IP with Au, so you can get them by just playing the game. I forgot about that but still, we can also buy silver with gold, its not really fair to purchase the currency you need so in addition to that, id like to see an in game way of earning them. |
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Jul 28, 2017 15:48:12 GMT -5
In the end REMEMBER they already stated that the DASH BOT's will likely get a NERF after their initial release.. So what are you all buying? Knowing they have stated that.. in the end what is the REAL value.. How much are they going to nerf it.. In the end how much better is it really going to be.. And if it is all that kickass.. how many people is it going to chase away from the game?  How many players can afford the 100 bucks for a Bot?? The vast majority cannot not.. so you alienate those that in the end truly make up the War Robots player base.. Personally I think them releasing a "elite" bot into the mix is a huge mistake.. |
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Post by infraviolet on Jul 28, 2017 15:58:05 GMT -5
Nope. I'll buy my first Galahad instead.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jul 28, 2017 18:21:24 GMT -5
Personally I think them releasing a "elite" bot into the mix is a huge mistake.. I share the same view. And they probably do too, which is likely why they didn't make the Wild West bots too strong. They made them Different. With a unique playstyle (aside from that damned Treb Butch, but that was pretty unavoidable to make the bot as a whole viable at all..). |
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Post by T34 on Jul 28, 2017 18:48:30 GMT -5
I have been saving for a dash bot (or 2 depending on the cost) and the Scourge too and am almost at 14K Au. If the actual price ends up being 14K for one, I will likely still get one, though I will not buy one right away due to the risk of picking the wrong one. I will wait to see how they play on the field first and let others test them out for me so I can find the best value. I'm in no hurry. Exactly my thinking. Just got a bit more gold but the principle is very similar. If reasonably priced I will buy all three so I can have more fun. If 14k I will sit back and watch how it all unrevels. Within a few weeks the first real world feedbacks should be coming through. If they are not OP than I reckon lancelots will be sitting in a very firm position and will buy a mk1 for the fun of it. If the dashes are not OP I have this feeling that the griffs will still have a harder time which will make the lance and the Galahad stronger than b4. If they are op well than there goes the whole meta and the age of dash begins. Than its all about picking the right ones again and the ability to buy em. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jul 28, 2017 19:04:39 GMT -5
The Dash bots will not cost 14,000 Au, so while the speculation is fun, it's somewhat pointless at that amount.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jul 28, 2017 19:09:47 GMT -5
The Dash bots will not cost 14,000 Au, so while the speculation is fun, it's somewhat pointless at that amount. I think they got that idea from the fact that the Butch is 14,000 IP, which roughly correlates to 14,000 Au (dependant on how it is purchased, of course.) Trivial as it sounds, there's nothing necessarily stopping Pix from making the dash bots 14, 000 Au... (I was thinking more around the Doc's price range however. ;p) |
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Post by T34 on Jul 28, 2017 19:18:09 GMT -5
The Dash bots will not cost 14,000 Au, so while the speculation is fun, it's somewhat pointless at that amount. I think they got that idea from the fact that the Butch is 14,000 IP, which roughly correlates to 14,000 Au (dependant on how it is purchased, of course.) Trivial as it sounds, there's nothing necessarily stopping Pix from making the dash bots 14, 000 Au... (I was thinking more around the Doc's price range however. ;p) If I remember correctly this 14k matter came up b4 and dredd_77 confirmed from reliable sources that 14k for each is not the correct price. speculation is fun tho as is trying to discuss the best strategy in relation to release price and effectiveness of the dashes. |
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but in general, I wouldn't like them to cost IP unless they change the the way they're earned so you can earn them in the same/similar amounts of gold, by playing the game.
