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Post by Dredd77 on Jul 28, 2017 19:27:12 GMT -5
I think they got that idea from the fact that the Butch is 14,000 IP, which roughly correlates to 14,000 Au (dependant on how it is purchased, of course.) Trivial as it sounds, there's nothing necessarily stopping Pix from making the dash bots 14, 000 Au... (I was thinking more around the Doc's price range however. ;p) If I remember correctly this 14k matter came up b4 and dredd_77 confirmed from reliable sources that 14k for each is not the correct price. speculation is fun tho as is trying to discuss the best strategy in relation to release price and effectiveness of the dashes. RIght, I'm just debunking the premise with fact, so that folks don't overly anxious. All the other good stuff in the thread, like meta speculation, is perfectly useful!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 21:31:41 GMT -5
This is PIX, so reliable went out the window. Don't see many WB bots out there. Still PIX hasn't learned. No reason to think in my mind that they couldn't do it again. As for the Descent, who knows on its price, or what stupid games PIX will play with it. I lime it as its more nimble that the Lance. As far as the Lance, if they ever get the Scourge, grab a a pair, toss on a Zeus, and if the TS holds true, you got a Dash toaster.
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Post by Kanis on Jul 28, 2017 21:50:15 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah, Dash. The old pale bot. I luv him though. But honestly, I just have 1k gold and earn maybe 60 gold a day, and I usually waste all my Au on buying gekkos and aphids. So...no.
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Post by agentorange on Jul 28, 2017 21:59:53 GMT -5
So when we have the Butch on sale for $70 and its stated the normal price is $100 why is 14k gold so far fetched? Why do so many think the above pricing will kill this game when so many other iap games wring both small and large fortunes out of its player base? Here we are using both past and current pricing models to determine what a dash may cost yet I guess we can just be thankful that our inside scooper can tell us what its not...
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Post by T34 on Jul 28, 2017 23:12:19 GMT -5
Looking at the results it is obvious the price will not be $14K. Glad that is settled But the release date is another aspect to consider. Russel had an interesting idea. 15 august is a Korean national day of sorts (independence or something ). All main celebratory dates coincide with an event in the pixonic universe. .or vice versa. And pixo also said the release will be late July/august. Hmmmmmmm,....speculation is great. Dredd_77 dispel this one. Russel
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Post by ulitmateloser on Jul 29, 2017 19:56:51 GMT -5
dream on. it will cost ingame currency token
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 29, 2017 20:03:21 GMT -5
They won't.
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Post by _psychø on Jul 29, 2017 20:44:46 GMT -5
Hopefully, although there's nothing stopping them.
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Post by MCYL on Jul 30, 2017 1:15:27 GMT -5
So.. that's the question, what will you do if the dash bots will cost 14k gold? Will you also buy any of them? If not, then What will you spend your gold on? I'd probably get a Rog and two orkans.. It'll mean I'll only have enough reserve to buy one for each acc. Problem is deciding which two of three.
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Post by MCYL on Jul 30, 2017 1:18:51 GMT -5
The Dash bots will not cost 14,000 Au, so while the speculation is fun, it's somewhat pointless at that amount. Yup, they're so much more desirable than a WW they'll start at 18K, ranging up to 24K for the heavy.
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 6:42:47 GMT -5
Looking at the results it is obvious the price will not be $14K. Glad that is settled But the release date is another aspect to consider. Russel had an interesting idea. 15 august is a Korean national day of sorts (independence or something ). All main celebratory dates coincide with an event in the pixonic universe. .or vice versa. And pixo also said the release will be late July/august. Hmmmmmmm,....speculation is great. Dredd_77 dispel this one. Russel Credit where credit's due, idea is not mine. I heard it on Discord from @jarvis as a speculation. On the bots thing, I got a bet on the price, and I am pretty sure those bots would be way more expensive than BritBots, and pretty well comparable to WW bunch. Maybe not 14000 gold, but 13500 for the Bulgasari ;)
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Post by jhonsnow on Jul 30, 2017 7:04:40 GMT -5
I would pay if I had. But the fact is I can never have 14k au. Not in next 3-4 years ?
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Post by MCYL on Jul 30, 2017 7:19:06 GMT -5
I would pay if I had. But the fact is I can never have 14k au. Not in next 3-4 years ? It works out to only 8 months tasks only.
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Post by sharpmango on Jul 30, 2017 8:38:41 GMT -5
WHat if they don't.. What will we whine about then???
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Post by _psychø on Jul 30, 2017 9:09:19 GMT -5
I would pay if I had. But the fact is I can never have 14k au. Not in next 3-4 years ? It works out to only 8 months tasks only. I like how you use the word Only..lol WHat if they don't.. What will we whine about then??? Then we will whine about them being too cheap and available everywhere and how OP are they
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Post by snake5431 on Jul 30, 2017 10:42:32 GMT -5
snake5431, hav u sen the Das mech in acion? I tested them farly extesively, and if the pilot is hafway decent, virtualy nothig in the game can compet. Ecept another Dash. Yes, but I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and you changed my post before quoting it. And light bots could chip them down, Especially stalker. I think we may see a lot more light bots on the field with rockets.
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 11:28:59 GMT -5
snake5431 , hav u sen the Das mech in acion? I tested them farly extesively, and if the pilot is hafway decent, virtualy nothig in the game can compet. Ecept another Dash. Yes, but I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and you changed my post before quoting it. And light bots could chip them down, Especially stalker. I think we may see a lot more light bots on the field with rockets. Very good, thank you, I enjoyed it :-D
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 11:31:46 GMT -5
<irony>
IMPORTANT:
Conspiracy theory. Pixonic is funding this survey. Please click "no, I wouldn't" so they alter the pricing to reasonable level. And please keep clicking "no I won't" on any new survey, unless the price would go down to 1250-2500-5000 model, like with BritBots.
Thank you!
(and read in the black)
</irony>
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Post by agentorange on Jul 30, 2017 13:16:24 GMT -5
Can anyone come up with a rational excuse as to why dash with be cheaper than current butch pricing? I guess thats what im struggling most with...
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Post by agentorange on Jul 30, 2017 13:21:45 GMT -5
and ill add that a dash priced at 10-12k is still extreme and might as well be 14k for all intensive purposes. So when we get told that 14 is a laughable fabrication I hope the speaker realizes anything even close to that will make the statement nothing more than deflection Pixonic style...
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Post by _psychø on Jul 30, 2017 13:40:26 GMT -5
<irony>
IMPORTANT: Conspiracy theory. Pixonic is funding this survey. Please click "no, I wouldn't" so they alter the pricing to reasonable level. And please keep clicking "no I won't" on any new survey, unless the price would go down to 1250-2500-5000 model, like with BritBots. Thank you! (and read in the black) </irony> Hey Russel, can you please link me to that survey? I didn't get it in my news section.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Jul 30, 2017 14:16:41 GMT -5
I don't think that I could put out 14K AU even if my life depended on it. I'm currently at 5.3K AU, and not likely to reach 14K any time soon. My original plan was to get a Lance when I got to 5K. But I've held back for a few reasons: 1) I received mixed feedback on whether or not having a Lance would benefit my fighting style. 2) Will Lance be viable as a offense/defense against Dash and any other future Bot? 3) As I rarely lay out cash for AU (80+ % of it was earned in battle or completing daily tasks), I find it extremely difficult to spend that much on anything. I did a lot of soul searching after buying my Gala, and that was half the price of a Lance. Can you imagine me laying out 14K AU (I know. The actual price hasn't officially been posted) for a Bot that I may not even like? I've used Dash on the test server, but that was at level 8, and under test parameters. What will the final product be like? I got a Rhino after saving up 15K WP, and have regretted it ever since. This was before I knew about the test server, and had only seen it in action by someone who knew that they were doing. That 15K WP investment is collecting dust in an unused corner of my hangar, right next to the Trident and Trebuchet that I thought I absolutely had to have, and would make me master of the battlefield.
Well, I'm not master of the battlefield, nor am I ever likely to be. Spending a king's ransom on the newest Bot to come out won't change that.
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 14:18:20 GMT -5
Can anyone come up with a rational excuse as to why dash with be cheaper than current butch pricing? I guess thats what im struggling most with... Why, I can. There were no pack of robots priced same as other pack. Fury-Rog-Gepard were NOT a pack, though they were priced 1200-2500-5000. Stalker and Rhino were priced 7500 and 15000 Fujin-Raijin were priced 13000 and 15000 Britbots were priced 1250-2500-5000 WW bots were 3500-7000-14000 So my wild guess is dashes would either be same price for each bot, or 2500-5000-10000 event coins\gold
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 14:26:06 GMT -5
<irony>
IMPORTANT: Conspiracy theory. Pixonic is funding this survey. Please click "no, I wouldn't" so they alter the pricing to reasonable level. And please keep clicking "no I won't" on any new survey, unless the price would go down to 1250-2500-5000 model, like with BritBots. Thank you! (and read in the black) </irony> Hey Russel, can you please link me to that survey? I didn't get it in my news section. Why, I was talking about current one, it has "vote" on top. And the new ones are just the speculation.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Jul 30, 2017 14:28:33 GMT -5
Can anyone come up with a rational excuse as to why dash with be cheaper than current butch pricing? I guess thats what im struggling most with... Why, I can. There were no pack of robots priced same as other pack. Fury-Rog-Gepard were NOT a pack, though they were priced 1200-2500-5000. Stalker and Rhino were priced 7500 and 15000 Fujin-Raijin were priced 13000 and 15000 Britbots were priced 1250-2500-5000 WW bots were 3500-7000-14000 So my wild guess is dashes would either be same price for each bot, or 2500-5000-10000 event coins\gold
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 14:52:02 GMT -5
Why, I can. There were no pack of robots priced same as other pack. Fury-Rog-Gepard were NOT a pack, though they were priced 1200-2500-5000. Stalker and Rhino were priced 7500 and 15000 Fujin-Raijin were priced 13000 and 15000 Britbots were priced 1250-2500-5000 WW bots were 3500-7000-14000 So my wild guess is dashes would either be same price for each bot, or 2500-5000-10000 event coins\gold Okay, fixed my writing just for you :-D
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Jul 30, 2017 14:53:54 GMT -5
Actually, I was agreeing with you. Based on the formula used, your statement makes perfect sense. And, I hope, accurate. Only then would I be able to maybe afford them some day.
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Post by _psychø on Jul 30, 2017 14:55:52 GMT -5
Hey Russel, can you please link me to that survey? I didn't get it in my news section. Why, I was talking about current one, it has "vote" on top. And the new ones are just the speculation. I thought you were talking about a survey from pixo about the dashies price
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 15:15:52 GMT -5
Why, I was talking about current one, it has "vote" on top. And the new ones are just the speculation. I thought you were talking about a survey from pixo about the dashies price :p :D Sorry, no, I was just having fun :-D You can use your mouse to select all the text in my original post to see black on black "irony" tag :-D This kind of surveys are pretty pointless because: 1) People tend to be telling random information. Example - right now I'm at 12K gold, so most probably I hit 14-15K when Dash will be here. And if I got some alcohol I could as well buy the Dash, because why not? It's just a game. 2) Forum survey is not representative. Too few people here, compared to all playerbase. So the survery could be 100% "NO", but the day after Dashes release you will be swarmed by them, even if no forumite buys one. 4) Pixx got all the information they need, namely: Average check from the paying customer; Amount of gold average\top\bottom player make and average stockpile of Gold players got. So their strategy WOULD NOT be based on any survey. 5) I just did the old trick and forgot to put #3 in this list; I wonder have you noticed that? 6) Real money price could and will be dropped like with the Butch - you could've bought it for $69.99 recently. And you can scavenge some IP and get it for cheap. So it is not set in stone. 7) Even though I am not GOING to buy Dash, I still would like to win one (three, actually) from the chest or grind as a prize during the event. So that would render the price question a bit pointless, again.
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Post by Russel on Jul 30, 2017 15:23:28 GMT -5
Actually, I was agreeing with you. Based on the formula used, your statement makes perfect sense. And, I hope, accurate. Only then would I be able to maybe afford them some day. Oh, thanks. Actually I got some reasoning for the numbers, but it might sounds funny. I see that with the introduction of BritBots pricing was changed to be: Heavy = Mediumx2 =Lightx4 We can see that Gepard was NOT actually x2 of a Rog. But BritBots and WW bots were. And as for the numbers, Dredd said that bots would not be 14K, and I see that prices are tend to be rounded up at least a bit. But Dashes are pretty tough bots, so to not upset the game balance and only allow limited amount of them into the battle, Pix should make price a bit "pricey". So 5000-2500-1250 won't do. That's where my guesstimate kicks in, and I decided that between 5000 of an "old" price and 14000 "impossible" according to Dredd price, the 10000 is the sweet spot for the most expensive one.
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