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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 6, 2017 0:16:02 GMT -5
clubbing is part of the game and i defentily think it draws more people in which part of clubbing in your opinion draws more people into the game? I am quite an avid gamer, and so the first thing i did as a new player was find out what weapon setups were topping the scoreboards and figure out why that was. I was not deterred by gepards, simply frustrated that my opponents could carry blatantly better weapons on a far superior bot in comparison to my destriers and cossacks  . |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 6, 2017 0:23:48 GMT -5
Listen im a new player and was encouraged by clubbing what ever you call it i got lucky and started playing heavy arpund christmas event it bought me 3 gepards and 2 aphids thanks guys anyhow back to topic i hated logging on finding a guy or 2 running wild.around then i thought to my self i can do this too and i did ive played in plenty of single battles where i was the leading cast it gives me hope to know when i see a gepard running around makes the game more intresting playing stock robot its a joke and the real problem is the start of game is stupid defentily should start with more gold and inform people to upgrade the right ?poo-poo? not just random stuff instarted leveling 4 spirals on a patton first 2 weeks wasted then i joined a clan and my clanie told me the ropes im a quick learner but still clubbing is part of the game and i defentily think it draws more people in I disagree with your conclusion, in that gamers have lots of choices. A new player that gets clubbed to oblivion is just as likely to find something else to do rather than pony up RM on a game they just started and "learn to love the bomb." That said, we agree completely about the dreadfulness of the "auto recommend" system. I've not heard Word One in its defense, and in fact have managed to inadvertently level things twice when I did not want to, because of its presence on the screen and an accidental slip of the finger. |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 6, 2017 0:33:56 GMT -5
Dude, read the one star reviews on the app and play stores.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Jan 6, 2017 0:53:16 GMT -5
Listen im a new player and was encouraged by clubbing what ever you call it i got lucky and started playing heavy arpund christmas event it bought me 3 gepards and 2 aphids thanks guys anyhow back to topic i hated logging on finding a guy or 2 running wild.around then i thought to my self i can do this too and i did ive played in plenty of single battles where i was the leading cast it gives me hope to know when i see a gepard running around makes the game more intresting playing stock robot its a joke and the real problem is the start of game is stupid defentily should start with more gold and inform people to upgrade the right ?poo-poo? not just random stuff instarted leveling 4 spirals on a patton first 2 weeks wasted then i joined a clan and my clanie told me the ropes im a quick learner but still clubbing is part of the game and i definitely think it draws more people inHere we go again.. |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 6, 2017 2:51:11 GMT -5
HOLY MOTHER OF SARCASM CAN YOU GUYS TAKE A JOKE.
SERIOUSLY.
oh my word you guys'll be suckers on 4/1
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 6, 2017 2:54:43 GMT -5
Psch oh yes I have an "informed opinion", I'm part of VTSC and I rule the waves, the waves of TRASH NOOBS COMING IN OHHHH and like it encourages me so I think it's good for the game, these one star reviewers have no idea what they're talking about.
OF COURSE THIS GUY'S JOKING.
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 6, 2017 6:14:17 GMT -5
Pix has told us that the MM is kinda of screwy right now. I tried to go to silver to squad with our silver clan but was unable to do so. I was stuck in gold no matter what I did. And when I squadded with them, we got thrown into gold as well. Debasir commented that some players have also been stuck and unable to go lower than a certain tier.
But Camper's suspicion might be right that something sneaky has happened. Another player on LINE mentioned having been unable to go to silver for nearly 5 months
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 6, 2017 6:15:53 GMT -5
But back to the topic, I agree that an anti-clubbing clan would be nice but impossible to have. As some have said, you would need to have he same setup as them to compete with them. And doing that means u would be bullying any randoms that might be on THEIR team as well, making u just as much of a clubber.
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Post by Divine Thunder on Jan 6, 2017 6:44:41 GMT -5
First, though i did claim the title of clubbing, more because that is what happened when i tried to be an anti-clubber, the truth is i am not a clubber or do not intend to be.
I am like so many other experienced pilots who farm. But the difference between clubbing and farming is only a matter of samantics. Farming and clubbing are essentially the same because they both seek to accomplish the same goal - gold and silver.
Now, to the subject of a clan specifically to counter clubber. Yes, it was only a pipe dream but many of the points already made are very valid, like what does the squad do if there are no clubbers in a match or once the clubbers are meched? Do we just walk around enjoying the scenery?
The whole idea is not practical because to beat a bully you need a bigger bully.
Ok, with that said, allow me to move on to another subject. I suggest we drop this subject because even if this thread was intended to be funny, the subject of clubbing/farming has long moved tpfrom the arena of humor. Too many people take it far to seriously and it quickly devolves into name calling and flame wars.
Sometimes, it is better to allow ideas to simple stay in the mind.
Besides, as i understand the upcoming MM, "clubbers" and "farmers" will need to find a new way to harvest gold and silver.
Peace
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Post by Divine Thunder on Jan 6, 2017 6:52:23 GMT -5
Psch oh yes I have an "informed opinion", I'm part of VTSC and I rule the waves, the waves of TRASH NOOBS COMING IN OHHHH and like it encourages me so I think it's good for the game, these one star reviewers have no idea what they're talking about. OF COURSE THIS GUY'S JOKING. Your 6th slot - i have been dying to know what the VT stands for. I know SC is seal clubber for that is in your clans full name. But what is VT. |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 6, 2017 6:57:01 GMT -5
Virtual troublemakers?
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 6, 2017 7:48:44 GMT -5
Psch oh yes I have an "informed opinion", I'm part of VTSC and I rule the waves, the waves of TRASH NOOBS COMING IN OHHHH and like it encourages me so I think it's good for the game, these one star reviewers have no idea what they're talking about. OF COURSE THIS GUY'S JOKING. Your 6th slot - i have been dying to know what the VT stands for. I know SC is seal clubber for that is in your clans full name. But what is VT. oml I'm gonna kill myself THIS IS SALTY, IM BEING SARCASTIC. IM STILL IN 2WIK. i have no clue what VT stands for. |
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Jan 6, 2017 11:39:08 GMT -5
Your 6th slot - i have been dying to know what the VT stands for. I know SC is seal clubber for that is in your clans full name. But what is VT. oml I'm gonna kill myself THIS IS SALTY, IM BEING SARCASTIC. IM STILL IN 2WIK. i have no clue what VT stands for. Easy on the caps sochilli (Saltesers) |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 6, 2017 12:16:15 GMT -5
I will refrain from getting into yet another one of those arguments, as I think most folks know where I stand on this. My own review of the app at the Google Play store is two stars because of it. The one time I contacted Tech Support about a network issue (that ended up being on my end), I also mentioned my extreme displeasure at how much seal-clubbing was tolerated. They said they were working on it, and I notified them that for every release that came out without fixing this issue (as there are some very easy obvious steps they could take, such as looking at total hangar strength instead of the strength of the strongest slot), I would lower my 4-star review by one star. I've been true to my word twice since, gradually rewording the whole review to be more negative each time, and will most certainly duly lower it to one star if this much ballyhooed MM fix ends up being vaporware.
But to be more on-topic, as several of my clan mates have been encouraging me to start a new clan for various reasons that are neither here nor there, I am very interested in incorporating the goal of anti-clubbing (albeit secondary to learning and improving). I have a few ideas on how it might work (most notably, just paying attention to how the match is going and, much like happens in football, refrain from running up the score too much), but not having a whole lot of success against full-5-slot Gep hangars or multiple clubbers, I will probably need to learn a lot more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 12:28:55 GMT -5
1: ..(as there are some very easy obvious steps they could take, such as looking at total hangar strength instead of the strength of the strongest slot).. 2: ...I have a few ideas on how it might work (most notably, just paying attention to how the match is going and, much like happens in football, refrain from running up the score too much), but not having a whole lot of success against full-5-slot Gep hangars or multiple clubbers, I will probably need to learn a lot more.
1) I really do not see how looking at total hangar strength would improve the Seal Clubbing situation - instead of 5x4/12 maggeps, you'd face 2x12/12 Plasma Galahads / Griffins and 3x1/0 destriers (depending on implementation and boundaries). This could very well lead to an even worse situation. This is not to say that MM couldn't do a better job of it (I'd suggest grouping all players by levels and then by hangar strength, so level 30 players would be unable to play against sub-level 28 players for instance, but that is a different topic). 2) I've been over this again and again, but no matter how I approach it, I cannot see this working out. Either you face clubbers, in which case you give it your best and probably beat them and win the game - or you don't face clubbers - in which case you win the game (just not by very much). The problem with clubbing isn't just about noobs being slaughtered, it's as much about the match having a pretty much pre-determined outcome.
To be able to effectively deal with clubbers you need to field a clubbing hangar. Not necessarily MagGeps, but 4/9 Taran Boas aren't much more noob-friendly.
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 6, 2017 12:38:24 GMT -5
Note, I don't define clubbing/farming the same way everyone else does. To me, clubbing means the game is completely ruined, which does mean the noobs are slaughtered.
If the game seems close but really isn't, the loser won't necessarily know that and can still hold out hope that had things worked out a little bit differently or if they had done something a little differently, they could have won. And heck, when there are no clubbers or they've all been eliminated, I'm sure we can figure out in-game handicaps to give noobs a real chance (e.g., only use one weapon, don't use an ability, etc.)
Yes, it's a bit of an illusion, but I can live with that. I'm a Dad. I play "football" with my 5-year-old son. I don't think he minds it one bit that I let him tackle me. Would you have me play to win in what wouldn't be a fair fight?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 12:47:49 GMT -5
Note, I don't define clubbing/farming the same way everyone else does. To me, clubbing means the game is completely ruined, which does mean the noobs are slaughtered. If the game seems close but really isn't, the loser won't necessarily know that and can still hold out hope that had things worked out a little bit differently or if they had done something a little differently, they could have won. And heck, when there are no clubbers or they've all been eliminated, I'm sure we can figure out in-game handicaps to give noobs a real chance (e.g., only use one weapon, don't use an ability, etc.) Yes, it's a bit of an illusion, but I can live with that. I'm a Dad. I play "football" with my 5-year-old son. I don't think he minds it one bit that I let him tackle me. Would you have me play to win in what wouldn't be a fair fight? Ok, that is a valid point. That approach could work to some degree. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 6, 2017 13:43:29 GMT -5
Minor grammar correction; Clubbing is not ethically wrong, as it does not violate any of Pixo's Terms of Use, however many consider it to be morally wrong because of a perception of negative impacts on new players. Somebody said it backwards earlier, carry on.  |
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 7, 2017 3:49:59 GMT -5
Note, I don't define clubbing/farming the same way everyone else does. To me, clubbing means the game is completely ruined, which does mean the noobs are slaughtered. If the game seems close but really isn't, the loser won't necessarily know that and can still hold out hope that had things worked out a little bit differently or if they had done something a little differently, they could have won. And heck, when there are no clubbers or they've all been eliminated, I'm sure we can figure out in-game handicaps to give noobs a real chance (e.g., only use one weapon, don't use an ability, etc.) Yes, it's a bit of an illusion, but I can live with that. I'm a Dad. I play "football" with my 5-year-old son. I don't think he minds it one bit that I let him tackle me. Would you have me play to win in what wouldn't be a fair fight? I don't quite follow. Maybe a little of clarification might be needed. so are you saying that you should PRETEND to be not as good so that the lower level dudes THINK they have a chance when they actually don't? This is doesn't really work. If you have a clubbing duo and four noobish reds with them and you guys start to target the clubbers, what do you think the noob reds will be doing while you engage the Gepards? They are still gunning for you. Now you have a mag gep facing you down as well as a Cossack/destrier/Patton peppering you from the other direction. Eventually u might even have to kill the noob first so you can focus on the clubber. This isn't 1v1. You don't have the luxury of picking your opponent one by one. And the apology of your kid doesn't help. Let's admit it, we all have had times where we "let" our kid win. Are you going to do that? If you do that, that clubber (even if meched out) probably gets the gold anyway. And if you win, though you beat the clubbers, ur clubbing the other red randoms. Having an anti-clubbing team just leaves you with even more moral conflicts and dilemmas. The key to fixing this is for Pix to fix the MM and the tiers. and frankly, pretending to let newer players think that the game is close when it isn't is actually more disrespectful and might even lead them on a worse path when they think they are doing well until they meet a real clubber. This isn't a 5 year old kid whom we are trying to protect. These are gamers like you and me who deserve to know what's really going on. Jordan, Shaq, LeBron don't go easy on anybody. And they shouldn't be allowed to play against preschoolers. So why are level 30s and mags 3/4 of the way to max allowed to be in the midst of bronzies? I know it's semantics, but farming indicates ease and routine. It's still clubbing cos u know most of the time you're gonna win due to more skill, experience or just better weapons. It's legal until Pix changes things, but Let's not kid ourselves or try to make ourselves feel better by saying that there is a difference. Team Alpha Strike has proven that a skilled player even with Thunder Schutzes at base levels can beat all comers. The War Robots wiki motto has be "wikill you with knowledge", and that is never more true than in the bronze tier. You know more, you win. |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 7, 2017 5:47:01 GMT -5
Note, I don't define clubbing/farming the same way everyone else does. To me, clubbing means the game is completely ruined, which does mean the noobs are slaughtered. If the game seems close but really isn't, the loser won't necessarily know that and can still hold out hope that had things worked out a little bit differently or if they had done something a little differently, they could have won. And heck, when there are no clubbers or they've all been eliminated, I'm sure we can figure out in-game handicaps to give noobs a real chance (e.g., only use one weapon, don't use an ability, etc.) Yes, it's a bit of an illusion, but I can live with that. I'm a Dad. I play "football" with my 5-year-old son. I don't think he minds it one bit that I let him tackle me. Would you have me play to win in what wouldn't be a fair fight? I don't quite follow. Maybe a little of clarification might be needed. so are you saying that you should PRETEND to be not as good so that the lower level dudes THINK they have a chance when they actually don't? This is doesn't really work. If you have a clubbing duo and four noobish reds with them and you guys start to target the clubbers, what do you think the noob reds will be doing while you engage the Gepards? They are still gunning for you. Now you have a mag gep facing you down as well as a Cossack/destrier/Patton peppering you from the other direction. Eventually u might even have to kill the noob first so you can focus on the clubber. This isn't 1v1. You don't have the luxury of picking your opponent one by one. And the analogy of your kid doesn't help. Let's admit it, we all have had times where we "let" our kid win. Are you going to do that? If you do that, that clubber (even if meched out) probably gets the gold anyway. And if you win, though you beat the clubbers, ur clubbing the other red randoms. Having an anti-clubbing team just leaves you with even more moral conflicts and dilemmas. The key to fixing this is for Pix to fix the MM and the tiers. and frankly, pretending to let newer players think that the game is close when it isn't is actually more disrespectful and might even lead them on a worse path when they think they are doing well until they meet a real clubber. This isn't a 5 year old kid whom we are trying to protect. These are gamers like you and me who deserve to know what's really going on. Jordan and Shaq didn't, and LeBron doesn't go easy on anybody. And they shouldn't be allowed to play against preschoolers. So why are level 30s and mags 3/4 of the way to max allowed to be in the midst of bronzies? I know it's semantics, but farming indicates ease and routine. It's still clubbing cos u know most of the time you're gonna win due to more skill, experience or just better weapons. It's legal until Pix changes things, but Let's not kid ourselves or try to make ourselves feel better by saying that there is a difference. Team Alpha Strike has proven that a skilled player even with Thunder Schutzes at base levels can beat all comers. The War Robots wiki motto has be "wikill you with knowledge", and that is never more true than in the bronze tier. You know more, you win. Well put. I agree with this. BUT, wouldn't it be nice if we could reach down and help those who were in our pre-wiki situation? Not to be that emotional guy, but before I found the wiki, I was trash. Like trash trash (see How To Deal With MagGeps). Some people are in that stage, and they're players too. They simply haven't found their path here, and that's what's holding them back. Again, I'm going to repeat that I have no idea how this is going to be executed, but if someone was to go reach down there and smack some clubber for them, bearing the name of the wiki... well it might just help them out in the long run. Of course, throwing a net big enough for 30 fish might catch 3, and throwing a net big enough for 300 might catch 30. We need to help the poor souls stuck in pre-wiki, not because it's our job to wi-kill people with knowledge, but because we want THEM to wi-kill people with knowledge too. The wiki wasn't made for a small socialite group, it was made for everyone. So if we can, well, advertise in lower tiers, it might just draw in more and more people to the wiki. End-game, we have an undefined amount of better players. Jordan and Shaq never went easy on nobody. Nor did Dreamshake and Kobe. But behold, all of them (maybe except Shaq) are now coaching NBA players individually, because players want to lift their game, and these legends can facilitate this. YOU GUYS ARE LEGENDS, what are you going to do with the title? Hold on to it, sleep hugging it and wear it on your sleeve? Why not use it to help the future recruits? Teach noobs, and we'll have less noobs. What about when more noobs come in? We can teach them too. The problem is, I have no idea how this is going to work without turning us into clubbers. Cool. What if we just throw that aside, go down there and club (just an idea, don't kick me)? If it gets noobs to see how to beat Gepards without joining them, isn't that a win? So if there was an additional rule, no Gepards allowed that would, in theory, potentially stop noobs from boarding the can't-beat-them-join-them bandwagon, and by fighting fire with fire, we reduce the future pack of clubbers by adding just a few more (without Gepards). |
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 7, 2017 8:30:28 GMT -5
^^
Well said! And I was in the same boat. Without the wiki and the forums, I would have quite the game.
And I'm all for coaching new players. That's why we all try our best to steer people to the wiki and the forums. That's all we really can do. Perhaps use squad chat to tell some of these chaps to come over here.
But other than that it's gonna be tough.
Maybe if more people spammed the wiki and forum links in FB pages, it might help. So far only weed and I do that.
To be fair, I'm actually ok with Gepards being in bronze, and at reasonable levels and with reasonable weapon levels. But we all know it's a cash cow for Pix. Maybe it just needs a weapons level penalty.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 7, 2017 8:32:54 GMT -5
^^ Well said! And I was in the same boat. Without the wiki and the forums, I would have quite the game. And I'm all for coaching new players. That's why we all try our best to steer people to the wiki and the forums. That's all we really can do. Perhaps use squad chat to tell some of these chaps to come over here. But other than that it's gonna be tough. Maybe if more people spammed the wiki and forum links in FB pages, it might help. So far only weed and I do that. To be fair, I'm actually ok with Gepards being in bronze, and at reasonable levels and with reasonable weapon levels. But we all know it's a cash cow for Pix. Maybe it just needs a weapons level penalty. On a side note, how could you be the emperor of the lone islands AND a janitor at Cair Paravel...? and would you like me to spam links in FB pages? |
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 7, 2017 9:19:23 GMT -5
Note, I don't define clubbing/farming the same way everyone else does. To me, clubbing means the game is completely ruined, which does mean the noobs are slaughtered. If the game seems close but really isn't, the loser won't necessarily know that and can still hold out hope that had things worked out a little bit differently or if they had done something a little differently, they could have won. And heck, when there are no clubbers or they've all been eliminated, I'm sure we can figure out in-game handicaps to give noobs a real chance (e.g., only use one weapon, don't use an ability, etc.) Yes, it's a bit of an illusion, but I can live with that. I'm a Dad. I play "football" with my 5-year-old son. I don't think he minds it one bit that I let him tackle me. Would you have me play to win in what wouldn't be a fair fight? I think what you are talking about can exist in a controlled environment (practice field) - how do you set that up in a match on War Robots? To use your example, you would have to join your son on the playing field on the other team with another 5 players on each side....are the other dads going to be okay with you being out there, "playing" with their little kids, too? What if some of those kids are bigger and they can tackle you? You going to play rougher with them and be able to not play rougher with the littler guys? If you let them all tackle you and take you down, what lesson does it teach them? They can take on players who are 5x better than they are? Awesome when they apply that to the next 10 matches and get their behinds handed to them because you aren't there to pretend play and facilitate their win. The lessons they learned are not as relevant as you would hope as it is practice, not competition that you are talking about. To all the other sports analogies made, the key thing is that those sports set up leagues to have spirited and somewhat balanced competition at different levels. The experience and skill of the players set them apart. The playing fields are pretty much the same, the equipment and for the most part the rules. But meta players can dominate the competition at each level and are allowed to be there....and theoretically after awhile they move up to where they can be challenged or earn more (turn pro)....the new MM promises the same thing. And to ban one piece of equipment (geps) because you don't like it, think it is unfair, or unbalances the game for others is the equivalent of Shaq wanting to ban free throws because he is not as good at them....tough cookies. It is part of the game....deal with it as it is reality. You find other strengths and skills to offset or you get good at free throws, too. Cheers! |
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Post by Divine Thunder on Jan 7, 2017 12:11:52 GMT -5
Ethics - huge issue and one which I have formal training. We pastors do need to understand the subtles.
Is clubbing unethical morally?
Before we go too far, answer this question - have you farmed for gold or silver?
If you have ever farmed and did not fight battles with all your higher leveled weapons and bots in your active hanger, then technically, by what many have posted in various threads over the past year I have been part of thsi community, you have clubbed.
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Post by Divine Thunder on Jan 7, 2017 12:17:23 GMT -5
Oh, back to the what does the VT in VT Seal Clubber clan name mean.
I though it was Virginia Tech. I live in Southside Virginia and VT for Virginia Tech is plastered everywhere.
Someone else suggested, Veterans Team.
I like the Virtual Troublemakers.
Now, if other members of VTSC please chime in.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 7, 2017 12:33:11 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/5kng82/vtsc_seal_clubbers_are_recruiting_high_silver_clan/
This was the only other trace of them I could find with simple searches.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 7, 2017 12:49:06 GMT -5
Ethics - huge issue and one which I have formal training. We pastors do need to understand the subtles. Is clubbing unethical morally? Before we go too far, answer this question - have you farmed for gold or silver? If you have ever farmed and did not fight battles with all your higher leveled weapons and bots in your active hanger, then technically, by what many have posted in various threads over the past year I have been part of thsi community, you have clubbed. Trying to understand this definition of clubbing. I don't play for gold and silver...those are the outcomes of my matches. Sure, I need them for upgrades but I pay for premium now and then to make my matches more productive. I play to beat the red team and win matches to the best of my abilities...I build my bot/wep line ups on what I think is best for my tier and playing preferences. I average about 1300-1700 trophies which makes me about an average player with my peers. So I put in my max silver line up (geps and rogs because of my aggressive play style) instead of my low gold equipment (Griffins, Galahad, Lancelot, gep)...the only overlap are lvl 12 mags, CRVs, and aphids and 1 lvl4 gep. That is clubbing because I could be playing low gold by myself instead of silver with my clan (I make more silver in Gold tier)? Would it still be clubbing if I put in my 4/8 boas and 4/12 Cossack in silver and still win +90% of the time because I have lvl 6 heavies with lvl 9 weps that I could be playing in lo Gold with a win rate in the 60's? based on this definition of clubbing, a ton of players are clubbers because many are upgrading weps/bots in the background prepping for the next tier and trying to earn silver for u-grades. So I guess I would be part of the majority and would be proud to be a Clubber....in fact much of the advice given to players in threads on this forum by moderators and others are to shelve their higher level bots and weps and concentrate in a lower tier to build up silver/gold/win rates to allow them to better compete in a higher tier....so much of the advice given in this forum is to turn players into clubbers? i just find this expansive definition of clubbing to be so broad that it waters down what I think is the key issue of high win rate lvl 30 players squatting in bronze tiers. cheers! |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 7, 2017 14:49:09 GMT -5
Quick reply, since I have the kids,
The strategy would be to prioritize clubbers. Only after they have been eliminated and only n00bs are left would a handicap be useful. Until then, the clubbers' teammates are fair game because the match outcome is still in doubt while the clubber is active.
The NBA is a balanced game because it is the top tier of basketball, a sport where equipment matters very little, so I fail to see the relevance of the LeBron or Shaq example. Every level below is essentially a training ground, and I imagine when NBA stars squad with high school kids, they don't play to win. They play like I do football with my kid. Keep it fun for them.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 7, 2017 15:37:05 GMT -5
^^ Well said! And I was in the same boat. Without the wiki and the forums, I would have quite the game. And I'm all for coaching new players. That's why we all try our best to steer people to the wiki and the forums. That's all we really can do. Perhaps use squad chat to tell some of these chaps to come over here. But other than that it's gonna be tough. Maybe if more people spammed the wiki and forum links in FB pages, it might help. So far only weed and I do that. FWIW, I try and work a name check/link here into my articles at Gepard Diary. |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 7, 2017 15:48:00 GMT -5
Are any of these NBA stars really bringing their A-game? With their quickness, they shouldn't ever need more than two moves to beat someone at that level, and the simple pump fake drive should pretty much do the trick, topped off by a thunderous dunk.
Heck, with the height advantage, they could just take an uncontested 20-footer every time, knowing that they can still get the rebound if they miss, but as that would be no fun, no, they pretend to have to work for it for awhile. All the juking only looks believable because players do that all the time in the game as a delaying tactic (or facing someone who can actually defend double and triple moves). No reason for it here. No game clock. No teammates trying to get open. It's just to make a good show of it before winning.
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