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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 16, 2017 4:24:18 GMT -5
Dear Pixo developers, please stop mixing the Teams in that way! my girlfriend is level 23 in silver with 6/6 hangar and hast to play against 12/12. For what it should it be good?!?
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Post by hyderier on Jul 16, 2017 4:50:01 GMT -5
This isn't an official forum, so your message here will not reach Pix. There's an in-game UI for leaving feedback.
Also it's not the developers who decide this kind of things. It's some level of management.
Also, this should ne only some of the games. In some games it ahould be the other way around.
(Also, there's a great setup for a tastless joke about their 12 pounding her 6, but it's really crass so I will refrain from saying it.)
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 16, 2017 4:56:46 GMT -5
This isn't an official forum, so your message here will not reach Pix. There's an in-game UI for leaving feedback. Also it's not the developers who decide this kind of things. It's some level of management. Also, this should ne only some of the games. In some games it ahould be the other way around. (Also, there's a great setup for a tastless joke about their 12 pounding her 6, but it's really crass so I will refrain from saying it.) Hi, I know that this not the official board of pixo, but maybe the call of the community will reach them. And its not only some of the games, as posted in other posts since some weeks the team-mixing is terrible, I'am in diamond and have now to play against experts and gold in nearly every game.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jul 16, 2017 5:57:17 GMT -5
Moderator moved to Rants section
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Post by bugdoc on Jul 16, 2017 6:11:05 GMT -5
As was mentioned, you should be seeing about as many 'pigeon' games as you see 'statue' games (I.e. some days you're the pigeon, others the statue). Try keeping a log of your opponents and see if it's really off. That would show you if it's a random effect.
This morning I had a nasty losing streak (win % dropped to 36). This evening, however, I had a nice win streak and brought back up to 54%. Just random chance, nothing to do with the MM.
I've been enjoying the new algorithm. It's eliminated the walls in between leagues, thus should be helping everyone advance to where they belong.
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 16, 2017 6:19:17 GMT -5
Currently, it's a bit necessary for broad range of Leagues. If things go according to Pixonic's plans - weapon diversity being introduced to higher Leagues - the MM should tighten up relatively soon.
Play a mostly defensive game and choose targets of opportunity. You'll soon find that your piloting skills will improve and when you check the After Action report you'll say, "Dang. I smoked a Diamond." You'll get better and won't even realize it ..
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 16, 2017 7:02:55 GMT -5
Currently, it's a bit necessary for broad range of Leagues. If things go according to Pixonic's plans - weapon diversity being introduced to higher Leagues - the MM should tighten up relatively soon. Play a mostly defensive game and choose targets of opportunity. You'll soon find that your piloting skills will improve and when you check the After Action report you'll say, "Dang. I smoked a Diamond." You'll get better and won't even realize it .. I made a cap of her last game, gut its more than 1mb... so, I write it down. she: level 23, silver leage, 1554 points red team: 2395 pts dia 2295 pts gold 2110 pts gold 1909 pts gold 1498 pts silver it is not a little bit too broad? its no problem for her to destroy a diamond, but she needs her complete hangar.... I have the same spread in my diamond league
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Post by psyflex on Jul 16, 2017 7:29:47 GMT -5
Dear Pixo developers, please stop mixing the Teams in that way! my girlfriend is level 23 in silver with 6/6 hangar and hast to play against 12/12. For what it should it be good?!? That question is easily answered. Pixonic is a business and wants to make money. So if you are annoyed enough, you might buy some gold to speedup your upgrades 'til level 12.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2017 7:33:20 GMT -5
Dear Pixo developers, please stop mixing the Teams in that way! my girlfriend is level 23 in silver with 6/6 hangar and hast to play against 12/12. For what it should it be good?!? That question is easily answered. Pixonic is a business and wants to make money. So if you are annoyed enough, you might buy some gold to speedup your upgrades 'til level 12. That has nothing to do with what's going on. If the player pool is too small, it pulls who it needs to pull, to do what it needs to do.
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Post by hyderier on Jul 16, 2017 8:17:42 GMT -5
This isn't an official forum, so your message here will not reach Pix. There's an in-game UI for leaving feedback. Also it's not the developers who decide this kind of things. It's some level of management. Also, this should ne only some of the games. In some games it ahould be the other way around. Hi, I know that this not the official board of pixo, but maybe the call of the community will reach them. And its not only some of the games, as posted in other posts since some weeks the team-mixing is terrible, I'am in diamond and have now to play against experts and gold in nearly every game. Maybe it is worse at the bottom of league ladder. Though the 12/12 in Silver games are surely tankers. They probably move up again after the event... I started seeing Champion league players when I entered Diamond 1 just a few days ago (Android). Expert appeared when I entered Diamond 3, IIRC. But it is kinda ok for me, since there are games the other way around too. Not sure how it works for those in Silver... probably less ok. Have you considered or tried squading together? Does it make the opposition more difficult than what she faces normally? If squading works, if I were you I'd consider really working on that, because that can really give you an edge... To get your equipment levels to match, you could upgrade more bots and weps to 6...7...8 while waiting for her to catch up. Two accounts is also an option, though that costs a lot in silver income per account. And of course beware getting in real life fight over what happens while gaming... My solo advice would be for her to concentrate on getting beacons, and helping wins by beacon control. This doesn't mean forgetting damage or running Ecu Cossacks, it just means not going head-to-head with Lancelots. There should usually be other high-level players in the blue team too, it's their job to take out the red heavy hitters. So 2ndary objective after beacon control would be support these heavy hitters, protect them, take out Anciles of Ancelots with Thunder and Puns to let them connect with rockets. I'm not saying things are as they should, for those in Silver. And I'd be optimistic about them improving after the event. But they are what they are, and a player needs to make best of the situation.
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 16, 2017 14:42:05 GMT -5
Currently, it's a bit necessary for broad range of Leagues. If things go according to Pixonic's plans - weapon diversity being introduced to higher Leagues - the MM should tighten up relatively soon. Play a mostly defensive game and choose targets of opportunity. You'll soon find that your piloting skills will improve and when you check the After Action report you'll say, "Dang. I smoked a Diamond." You'll get better and won't even realize it .. I made a cap of her last game, gut its more than 1mb... so, I write it down. she: level 23, silver leage, 1554 points red team: 2395 pts dia 2295 pts gold 2110 pts gold 1909 pts gold 1498 pts silver it is not a little bit too broad? its no problem for her to destroy a diamond, but she needs her complete hangar.... I have the same spread in my diamond league Same here. I can handle Gold. But Diamond? - the disparities are too great. Hopefully, it will tighten up soon.
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 17, 2017 4:34:45 GMT -5
for me, a league makes only sense when I play against people in my league. its like soccer league, the next village team dont play against FC Bayern. Has anybody an idea why pixo use this new mm?
its so frustrating since some weeks! the problem is, when my blue members see that a match will not be won, they quit, because they dont want to get win points when losing.
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Post by darkman on Jul 17, 2017 5:10:39 GMT -5
Me gustaría que por.favor me prestasen atención. Mi nombre en el juego es Dark y mi ID es ED4LOA. Mande solicitud a varias legiones y me denegaron el acceso a sus legiones,cuando se supone que según el foro del juego aceptaban a compañeros nuevos. Llevo en este juego unos 10 días aprox. y me gustaría encontrar una legión española que me pudiera aceptar, si ven mi perfil tengo 2 grifis y un leo de nivel 6, y ayer conseguí el Carnage de nivel 1 que empiezo hoy a subir. Me gustaría recomendar que cuando cuelguen en el juego que aceptan a nuevos y los quieren con unos requisitos específicos lo pongan también. Como dije y sin incordiar, me gustaría estar en un clan español, me pueden ayudar?
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 18, 2017 9:22:32 GMT -5
I tried some games again today, I will stop playing this game until this league mixing is over. I had no normal games since this league-mixing was installed. from gold to expert is too much in my league. experts quitting after losing one bot and only 「dookie」ty games. Please, give me back the old sytstem playing against players in my league!! ?
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Post by hyderier on Jul 18, 2017 9:52:31 GMT -5
I tried some games again today, I will stop playing this game until this league mixing is over. I had no normal games since this league-mixing was installed. from gold to expert is too much in my league. experts quitting after losing one bot and only ?poo-poo?ty games. Please, give me back the old sytstem playing against players in my league!! ? If you want to play, there's always the smurfing option: start new account! To make it less smurfy, pick a theme or quest or principle, such as "only light bots" or "only 3 slots" or "use Au for slots and upgrades only, no Au stuff" or whatever.
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 18, 2017 10:39:55 GMT -5
I tried some games again today, I will stop playing this game until this league mixing is over. I had no normal games since this league-mixing was installed. from gold to expert is too much in my league. experts quitting after losing one bot and only ?poo-poo?ty games. Please, give me back the old sytstem playing against players in my league!! ? If you want to play, there's always the smurfing option: start new account! To make it less smurfy, pick a theme or quest or principle, such as "only light bots" or "only 3 slots" or "use Au for slots and upgrades only, no Au stuff" or whatever. when I create a new account, the problem of league mixing will still exist. I wait until the gameplay is normal again, maybe after the new event.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Jul 18, 2017 10:48:27 GMT -5
This happens because the MM is weighted to find enough players quickly to fill the teams rather than good matches. Would you rather wait 5 to 10 minutes for match with enough players from your league?
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Post by hyderier on Jul 18, 2017 10:54:15 GMT -5
If you want to play, there's always the smurfing option: start new account! To make it less smurfy, pick a theme or quest or principle, such as "only light bots" or "only 3 slots" or "use Au for slots and upgrades only, no Au stuff" or whatever. when I create a new account, the problem of league mixing will still exist. I wait until the gameplay is normal again, maybe after the new event. Once you rise high enough yeah. But you'll have a run of many games before then.
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Post by ouch on Jul 18, 2017 11:23:11 GMT -5
My feerling is its only going to get worse in the near future.
There was an interesting post on Pixonics Facebook from someone quoting a recent gametracker article, not sure how true it is as I didnt see the article myself, but it sounds likely. According to the post the article said War Robots had about 300,000 active daily users across both Android and IOS, down from 1.7 million from last autumn. This decline in player base sounds entirely feasible to me given that until the introduction of leagues and the new matchmaker, leaving a match before the counter ran down had almost zero impact and matches were virtually always 6 vs 6. If you dont believe me try to find a thread on this forum that complains about uneven matches and problems with people leaving games or map skipping that predates the implementation of leagues, I dont believe that you will find a single one.
Now we have the normal queue and the leavers queue, fragmenting an already smaller playerbase, so Pixonic have to widen the matchmaker parameters to find players, and we get what you are seeing now. Coming soon we will have Custom matches, Beacon Rush and maybe Deathmatch modes alongside the current game mode and leavers queue. All this will do is fragment the playerbase even more. My prediction is that the normal queue will very soon resemble the leaver queue matchmaking and you will see everything from bronze to champions in the same games
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Post by psyflex on Jul 19, 2017 2:11:48 GMT -5
Well, i would prefer a 5 vs 5, 4 vs 4 or 3 vs 3 match with even players then, instead of a match 6 vs 6 with high level players. Too often i have to play matches, where my team just doesn't have enough firepower to kill the reds. In the last days, the reds just grabbed all beacons and we were not able to push them back. Only my DB Griff seems to be able to kill at least one or two reds, all other of my L8 weapons don't really do any noticable damage to the reds.
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 19, 2017 4:07:20 GMT -5
I dont think its because of to get enough players. I was never waiting long for matches and the change came from one day to another. maybe pix whants to give seals for gold. now I have nearly only games where one or two are overpowered with 1000000 dmg. I'm in diamond and have much games with all reds or all blues dead. Its like you have tankers in your game legally. I really really hopes after the event the gameplay will be normal again.
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 19, 2017 4:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by SuperHero on Jul 19, 2017 5:35:54 GMT -5
Actually, if experts are bailing after just one bot.....are you sure you are not in the Leavers Queue?
Secondly, the issue is NOT the mixing of leagues. Because if that was the case, would be ok if both the red and your GF were silver league but the red was 12/12? The issue is people exploiting the league situation.
Next, even IF the league system was working perfectly, you SHOULD have to play some people from above and below you. Of course in a perfect world there would be enough players all the time to fill up the slots, but that isnt the case. So the MM does it's best with whatever is available at the time. Otherwise you might have to wait a REAL long time before getting a full match.
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 19, 2017 6:43:27 GMT -5
Actually, if experts are bailing after just one bot.....are you sure you are not in the Leavers Queue? Secondly, the issue is NOT the mixing of leagues. Because if that was the case, would be ok if both the red and your GF were silver league but the red was 12/12? The issue is people exploiting the league situation. Next, even IF the league system was working perfectly, you SHOULD have to play some people from above and below you. Of course in a perfect world there would be enough players all the time to fill up the slots, but that isnt the case. So the MM does it's best with whatever is available at the time. Otherwise you might have to wait a REAL long time before getting a full match. yes, I'm shure that we are not in leavers queue, otherwise I wouldnt talk about new matchmaking. Other players talked here in this forum and made the same experience. the bad gameplay started in July. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/11034/bad-mm-today-methe issue IS the mixing of leagues, I dont talk about tankers with 12/12 in bronze. so its easy for us, we want back the gameplay we had for months.
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Post by T34 on Jul 19, 2017 7:20:55 GMT -5
My feerling is its only going to get worse in the near future. There was an interesting post on Pixonics Facebook from someone quoting a recent gametracker article, not sure how true it is as I didnt see the article myself, but it sounds likely. According to the post the article said War Robots had about 300,000 active daily users across both Android and IOS, down from 1.7 million from last autumn. This decline in player base sounds entirely feasible to me given that until the introduction of leagues and the new matchmaker, leaving a match before the counter ran down had almost zero impact and matches were virtually always 6 vs 6. If you dont believe me try to find a thread on this forum that complains about uneven matches and problems with people leaving games or map skipping that predates the implementation of leagues, I dont believe that you will find a single one. Now we have the normal queue and the leavers queue, fragmenting an already smaller playerbase, so Pixonic have to widen the matchmaker parameters to find players, and we get what you are seeing now. Coming soon we will have Custom matches, Beacon Rush and maybe Deathmatch modes alongside the current game mode and leavers queue. All this will do is fragment the playerbase even more. My prediction is that the normal queue will very soon resemble the leaver queue matchmaking and you will see everything from bronze to champions in the same games From 1.7 to 300k? Couldn't possibly be that order of magnitude. But in any case I agree that fragmenting the player base is silly. Actually it is simply stupid. People starting off in the game who get into the LQ will surely get fed up rather soon. Secondly many highly competitive clans and players who have been around know how to get out almost instantaneously. It is not a deterrent, all it does is allows tankers to tank in that queue and allows other to collect currency twice as fast (or even more) than in the NQ. But maybe removing tanking from the NQ is the main aim at the expense of fragmentation.
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Post by SuperHero on Jul 19, 2017 10:30:11 GMT -5
Actually, if experts are bailing after just one bot.....are you sure you are not in the Leavers Queue? Secondly, the issue is NOT the mixing of leagues. Because if that was the case, would be ok if both the red and your GF were silver league but the red was 12/12? The issue is people exploiting the league situation. Next, even IF the league system was working perfectly, you SHOULD have to play some people from above and below you. Of course in a perfect world there would be enough players all the time to fill up the slots, but that isnt the case. So the MM does it's best with whatever is available at the time. Otherwise you might have to wait a REAL long time before getting a full match. yes, I'm shure that we are not in leavers queue, otherwise I wouldnt talk about new matchmaking. Other players talked here in this forum and made the same experience. the bad gameplay started in July. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/11034/bad-mm-today-methe issue IS the mixing of leagues, I dont talk about tankers with 12/12 in bronze. so its easy for us, we want back the gameplay we had for months. Actually, you ARE talking about tankers. Read your own original post. You specifically mentioned your GF being in silver and playing against 12/12 opponents.You are partially facing this issue because some of the idiots who are maxed decided that it would be easier to earn tokens during this event by tanking and dropping down to your league when they should be Masters or Champs. I say this because you are saying your issues only started in July. Well, that's when the event started. There were already maxed tanking idiots, but the event has brought even more of them out.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jul 19, 2017 19:06:15 GMT -5
My feerling is its only going to get worse in the near future. There was an interesting post on Pixonics Facebook from someone quoting a recent gametracker article, not sure how true it is as I didnt see the article myself, but it sounds likely. According to the post the article said War Robots had about 300,000 active daily users across both Android and IOS, down from 1.7 million from last autumn. Got a link? I just scoured Gametracker for it, and they don't even cover War Robots. Didn't see any link to an article on Pixo's FB either.
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Post by ouch on Jul 19, 2017 19:26:10 GMT -5
No link, like I said didnt see the article myself so dont know how true it is.
Post on Facebook is in this week in community post. Mark Daywalt makes a comment about number of downloads and users and its someone called Locksly War Robots that added the comment about gametracker article in reply.
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Post by T34 on Jul 19, 2017 20:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by hackenschuh on Jul 20, 2017 0:29:30 GMT -5
yes, I'm shure that we are not in leavers queue, otherwise I wouldnt talk about new matchmaking. Other players talked here in this forum and made the same experience. the bad gameplay started in July. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/11034/bad-mm-today-methe issue IS the mixing of leagues, I dont talk about tankers with 12/12 in bronze. so its easy for us, we want back the gameplay we had for months. Actually, you ARE talking about tankers. Read your own original post. You specifically mentioned your GF being in silver and playing against 12/12 opponents.You are partially facing this issue because some of the idiots who are maxed decided that it would be easier to earn tokens during this event by tanking and dropping down to your league when they should be Masters or Champs. I say this because you are saying your issues only started in July. Well, that's when the event started. There were already maxed tanking idiots, but the event has brought even more of them out. I dont really know what you mean. You think all 12/12 bots in diamond are tankers? I meant that the gameplay puts her together with diamonds, there are 12/12 bots! But the main problem is that the game causes the problem already by the big spread of leagues in mixing teams. I have the same problem in diamond league, beeing mixed with experts and gold. When I startet the game maybe 10 months ago, I had had big problems with tankers and clubbers and leavers. But the new league system made the gameplay better and more fair for me. tanking was not a massive problem anymore with the league system. But now they put me together with 3 to 4 leagues higher opponents. That is what I'm talking about.
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