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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 18:03:09 GMT -5
I know that the britbots espeacily the Galahad and Lancelot has been the best bots in the game recently (very legendary) but some say since update 2.9(I think it's the rocket update) they have lost some viability (whatever that means) but on both gold purchase priorities lists,(strayed and wikia) the Galahad has been moved down quite a lot, and I don't even know where any of them went for Strayed gold list. Does this mean that there not good anymore or something?
(I have never played any britbots before so I don't know what it's like to play it so I'm asking you guys)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 18:06:14 GMT -5
It litterly says that Rog is better then Galahad in the wikia priority list (possibly due to buff). But I mean on the strayed list the britbots aren't even on the list!!!
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Jul 3, 2017 18:11:44 GMT -5
They still have all the benefits they ever had, but with the rocket buff, there are more rockets on the battlefield, which means their physical shield is negated quite a bit, so they aren't as desirable at the moment.
I have 2 each Galahad and Gareth, and they're parked for a bit, but they're still good. Heck, Lance is parked too, for that matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 18:31:39 GMT -5
Lance, mostly with Ancile, is still a requirement in champion league matches. I run 2, some run more, few top players don't regularly use them.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 3, 2017 19:02:51 GMT -5
Brit Bots are as good as before, it's just the battlefield which has become more toxic to them. They were as vulnerable before to rockets as now, what changed is just the hype on the rockets is still high since the patch, and way too many people are fielding long range rockets , even more than a balanced gameplay would really need. Galahad is still my main workhorse in every game, it's 50km/h speed is just too good, and the versatility to slow down and shoot while shielded, still saves me most of the time. On the plus side, Galahad is still the master of corner shooting, and a really awesome capper/tactical bot. You just need now to keep your eyes open and check your opponents, and maybe not rush toward an RDB Lancelot has lost a lot, considering his "dodging" capabilities are really limited due to low speed, but the Ancilot is really good right now, actually there have been games where i could keep occupied even 2 rocket enemies without being really damaged, or 3 lower level RDBs. Would i spend gold on them right now? Maybe i wouldn't buy 2 Galahads as i did before, but 1 Galahad+1Lancelot seems to me a good starting point toward whichever Hangar you got in mind.
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Post by robocain on Jul 3, 2017 19:06:14 GMT -5
It wasn't just the rocket buff. The physical shield also got nerfed in an earlier game update. The Britbots were awesome. Now they're just average gear. They have to be average to make the upcoming bots stand out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 20:05:23 GMT -5
On the gold priority purchase list the ancile and Lancelot went up a lot. Galahad went down, so I think ancilots are still good, but what in the world happend to Strayed gold purchase priorities. It doesn't even make sense anymore.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 3, 2017 20:28:47 GMT -5
People are right in the fact that the britbots haven't gotten worse. The game environment has just gotten less favorable. That is why it is true that they have become less valuable. A bot or weapon's "value" is measured by what it can produce for you in comparison to its cost.
The ability to produce results with these bots significantly declined after the 2.9 update while the price remained the same. That means they offer less bang for their buck now. On the contrary, the Rog was recently buffed, and the rocket filled environment makes the Rog's jump ability even more valuable. That's why you see the britbots - namely the Gareth and Galahad - move down on priority lists, while the Rog has climbed.
It's a true representation of the output per price of these bots. The Gareth and Galahad weren't nerfed directly, but the environment now allows them much less freedom of movement, and it's much more difficult to have any effective impact on games with them. The Lancelot with an Ancile is still a viable option because it can still counter the rockets, especially once the Ancile is high enough in level.
If you're looking for something to spend your gold on, I'd stay away from Gareths and Galahads. I'd actually save it entirely and either use it in the event if possible or save it for the Dash bots.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jul 3, 2017 20:32:03 GMT -5
People are right in the fact that the britbots haven't gotten worse. The game environment has just gotten less favorable. That is why it is true that they have become less valuable. A bot or weapon's "value" is measured by what it can produce for you in comparison to its cost. The ability to produce results with these bots significantly declined after the 2.9 update while the price remained the same. That means they offer less bang for their buck now. On the contrary, the Rog was recently buffed, and the rocket filled environment makes the Rog's jump ability even more valuable. That's why you see the britbots - namely the Gareth and Galahad - move down on priority lists, while the Rog has climbed. It's a true representation of the output per price of these bots. The Gareth and Galahad weren't nerfed directly, but the environment now allows them much less freedom of movement, and it's much more difficult to have any effective impact on games with them. The Lancelot with an Ancile is still a viable option because it can still counter the rockets, especially once the Ancile is high enough in level. If you're looking for something to spend your gold on, I'd stay away from Gareths and Galahads. I'd actually save it entirely and either use it in the event if possible or save it for the Dash bots. Food for thought- some have hypothesized that the Dash bots will decrease the strength of rockets, because Dashing is a fairly hard counter to death button setups. I wonder if that will tilt the environment back more towards the center, and indirectly benefit the Brits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 20:33:16 GMT -5
Oh ok now I see. But are you sure that the new dash bots will cost gold?
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Post by Dredd77 on Jul 3, 2017 20:40:18 GMT -5
Oh ok now I see. But are you sure that the new dash bots will cost gold? If someone is "sure" about that, then they probably get their paychecks issued by Pixonic. We don't know. But awhile back on Reddit they did state that they would "most likely" cost Gold.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 3, 2017 20:43:14 GMT -5
People are right in the fact that the britbots haven't gotten worse. The game environment has just gotten less favorable. That is why it is true that they have become less valuable. A bot or weapon's "value" is measured by what it can produce for you in comparison to its cost. The ability to produce results with these bots significantly declined after the 2.9 update while the price remained the same. That means they offer less bang for their buck now. On the contrary, the Rog was recently buffed, and the rocket filled environment makes the Rog's jump ability even more valuable. That's why you see the britbots - namely the Gareth and Galahad - move down on priority lists, while the Rog has climbed. It's a true representation of the output per price of these bots. The Gareth and Galahad weren't nerfed directly, but the environment now allows them much less freedom of movement, and it's much more difficult to have any effective impact on games with them. The Lancelot with an Ancile is still a viable option because it can still counter the rockets, especially once the Ancile is high enough in level. If you're looking for something to spend your gold on, I'd stay away from Gareths and Galahads. I'd actually save it entirely and either use it in the event if possible or save it for the Dash bots. Food for thought- some have hypothesized that the Dash bots will decrease the strength of rockets, because Dashing is a fairly hard counter to death button setups. I wonder if that will tilt the environment back more towards the center, and indirectly benefit the Brits. This is another reason it's good to save your Au for the Dash bot release. Not necessarily to buy the Dash bots themselves, but maybe to buy something that benefits from the new environment. At this moment, we simply don't know anything about the Dash bots and their effects on the live server. Don't know when they'll get here, how expensive they'll be, how many people will have them, and if it will affect the overall gameplay environment. The Dash bot release could very well shift the environment of the game back to a Britbot friendly place.
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Post by BLYTHE on Jul 3, 2017 20:47:18 GMT -5
The Galahad hasn't changed per se. However, what used to be a staple in (Android) <Expert is no longer viable because of the rocket buff. In higher tiers, more often people will be running RDBs, Doc tulus, or maybe even Fujin tulus (maybe). This isn't a fad--they are effective so people run them; an RDB is also considerably better, and easier and cheaper to acquire than a plasma Galahad.
So the league you're playing in will determine whether the Galahad in viable. Against plasma, they are great and they can corner like no other bot. But against rockets and splash damage? Not so good.
I have 2 maxed out plasmahads that I run occasionally because they used to be my favorite bot, but I tend to save them for later since most people run long/mid range bots first.
Also I think Pix fixed the rocket "bug" wherein faster bots can backpedal and outrun rockets. I don't think you can do this anymore. Honestly, I'm not running galahads often enough to confirm the veracity of this statement.
As for lancelot, it is still viable especially with anciles.
Gareth is dead save for lower tiers. But again, why spend Au on a bot that can easily be taken out by a bot that costs 1.7 Ag?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:23:22 GMT -5
Yup confirmed galahad cannot outrun orkans anymore and Galahad and Lancelot shield nerf.?
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Post by 0ppressor on Jul 3, 2017 21:31:22 GMT -5
Yup confirmed galahad cannot outrun orkans anymore and Galahad and Lancelot shield nerf.? What shield nerf?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:14:50 GMT -5
Yup confirmed galahad cannot outrun orkans anymore and Galahad and Lancelot shield nerf.? What shield nerf? I'm not really certain when(maybe a recent nerf before 2.9 or something but I heard someone say "it's not a rumor that Lancelot and galahads shield has been nerfed it's a fact" I'm suspecting MAYBE a secret nerf or something but I'm not sure. I'm guessing maybe less hp for shield.?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:29:24 GMT -5
Here check out a war robots forum page named:" Nerfed galahad and Lancelot shield". I think they said something about Galahad shield -6%hp and lance lot is -18%
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Post by BLYTHE on Jul 3, 2017 22:29:34 GMT -5
I'm not really certain when(maybe a recent nerf before 2.9 or something but I heard someone say "it's not a rumor that Lancelot and galahads shield has been nerfed it's a fact" I'm suspecting MAYBE a secret nerf or something but I'm not sure. I'm guessing maybe less hp for shield.? Haven't really noticed a shield nerf; so far still a tank.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:32:11 GMT -5
I'm not really certain when(maybe a recent nerf before 2.9 or something but I heard someone say "it's not a rumor that Lancelot and galahads shield has been nerfed it's a fact" I'm suspecting MAYBE a secret nerf or something but I'm not sure. I'm guessing maybe less hp for shield.? Haven't really noticed a shield nerf; so far still a tank. When did you get it? I think it was nerfed somewhere near when he wild bunch bots came out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:32:53 GMT -5
And yeah 6% isn't very noticeable, and it was a secret update
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Post by =Rogue-13= on Jul 4, 2017 0:28:03 GMT -5
Galahad is mere fodder these days..
Gareth is quicker fodder...
Lancelot with ancile can cope... ish
Mind you if you save the bots untill the RDB have dwindled...
Why? Rockets mean that the dash bots will be the bot of choice!
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Post by 7iquid on Jul 4, 2017 1:00:47 GMT -5
On iOS d3 I thought my lvl 9Gareth ( orkans 10) and 9!Galahad (Taran 10) were only good for the scrapyard - but played them last night and they were fine.
Took some rocket damage from Griffs but either dodged or avoided it and the Taran took out one griff after his initial barrage. Also managed two finishing kills with Gareth.
I was surprised and quite happy that the britbots are still viable - you just have to pick your battles carefully and be very aware of what's going on around you.
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Post by carnage on Jul 4, 2017 4:02:34 GMT -5
^^ This.
Britbots are still viable, there was just a lot of over-reaction by some people that were used to go gang-ho with their britbots smashing everything on sight while being immune with their shield. Of course when you're used to be OP, it hurts a bit to come back to reality (and yes I know my message can be provocative, but there is a lot of truth in it).
Britbots are still good. Very good even. Just the rockets rule these days so that of course diminish the impact of the shield.
Still a very fine investment. True though that in the current meta, I would not advice them before slot #5 for instance. Of course when you can have the best setup in the game for silver only (Griffin RDB), it becomes harder to justify spending gold on robots or weapons.
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Post by Demosthenes on Jul 4, 2017 4:50:32 GMT -5
Both Gareth and Galahad are still viable 'bots, I have two Galahads and three Gareths (one of each purchased, remainder won), and usually run one of each (Plasma). I dont own a Lancelot - I enjoy nimble 'bots.
The Gareth always needed good situational awareness - and sudden-death-by-rocket is currently more likely - but it is still lots of fun to play. I have never found the Galahad as much fun, however it is such a good general-purpose 'bot that having one in your hangar provides very useful tactical options.
It depends on your aims and what you enjoy. If your primary goal is to work your way up to and compete in Champions League I would wait for dash. For fun and find your own level - buy a Rogatka. I run two Ork-Rogs most games, one plasmahad, one plasma Gary, one RDB Griffin.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 4, 2017 7:32:05 GMT -5
Yup confirmed galahad cannot outrun orkans anymore and Galahad and Lancelot shield nerf.? What shield nerf? Old news. Nothing new has been inflicted.
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Post by mechtout on Jul 4, 2017 8:51:01 GMT -5
I have two level 10 galahads collecting dust
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Post by Demosthenes on Jul 4, 2017 11:26:50 GMT -5
I have two level 10 galahads collecting dust What do you run in your active hangar?
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Post by mechtout on Jul 4, 2017 11:31:34 GMT -5
I have two level 10 galahads collecting dust What do you run in your active hangar? RDB, Stucka Griff, DB Griff, Zues Carnage, and Tarancelot atm
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Post by The VVatcher on Jul 4, 2017 17:29:51 GMT -5
Food for thought- some have hypothesized that the Dash bots will decrease the strength of rockets, because Dashing is a fairly hard counter to death button setups. I wonder if that will tilt the environment back more towards the center, and indirectly benefit the Brits. This is what many of us are hoping anyway. The Dash bots seem to be the missing piece right now, as the balance is heavily tilted towards rockets. But I still wonder if Gal or Gar can make a come back. While Dash bots can counter rockets, they can sport them too -- you cannot backpedal a Dash rocket attack. Picture getting within 350m to fire off of plasma only for the Dash bot to close in with Orkans with a dash: game over.
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Post by vito on Jul 4, 2017 18:57:33 GMT -5
I know that the britbots espeacily the Galahad and Lancelot has been the best bots in the game recently (very legendary) but some say since update 2.9(I think it's the rocket update) they have lost some viability (whatever that means) but on both gold purchase priorities lists,(strayed and wikia) the Galahad has been moved down quite a lot, and I don't even know where any of them went for Strayed gold list. Does this mean that there not good anymore or something? (I have never played any britbots before so I don't know what it's like to play it so I'm asking you guys) I feel like my Gareth is 「dookie」e now... I returned to this game a few months ago after a year break.. so many changes. Found out my Geps were useless so I got a Gareth.. I loved its like lvl 9 or 10, whatever max speed is. I loved it.. eventually got a Orkan for it running lvl10 orkan/mag and Im doing 「dookie」e now since these missile updates... Tumbs etc just destroy my Gareth... Ever since past few updates.. its just useless now.. (Expert 3 atm BUT its uselessness started Diamond 1&2.
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