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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 8:33:49 GMT -5
I know, most people run him with a full plasma load. But would a Orkan be useful?
Let's say, an Orkan and a Pinata? Or should I attach it to a Thunder Boa, instead of the Taran.
Then I could run a full plasma Gareth...
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 27, 2016 9:17:24 GMT -5
You could try Ork/Mag which is a constant fire setup. Like the half of the Ork/Mag Rhino.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 9:23:25 GMT -5
I thought about that, too. Maybe I give it a try, later.
I run him with my 4\6 medium hangar and I haven't noticed the penalty.
Still in high bronze, low silver. But is just 4\6 leveled...
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 27, 2016 9:24:58 GMT -5
How's it do?
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 9:35:21 GMT -5
The Gareth? Took out a Destrier, a Leo and a Golem, before I capped a beacon.
After that, another Golem should have a serious trauma about light bots and easy targets.
It's a dream of a bot. And since I won two...
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 27, 2016 9:41:35 GMT -5
Nice lol. Hope they get a 20-30k health boost soon so they can be used in gold tier.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 9:47:00 GMT -5
Watch the play smart movies from acethunder. He is a genius in the Gareth.
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 27, 2016 9:48:18 GMT -5
I'll check it out.
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acethunder
GI. Patton
Posts: 136
Karma: 224
Pilot name: Ace Thunder!
Platform: iOS
Clan: Wiki
League: Gold
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Gary
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Post by acethunder on Dec 27, 2016 9:49:05 GMT -5
I know, most people run him with a full plasma load. But would a Orkan be useful? Let's say, an Orkan and a Pinata? Or should I attach it to a Thunder Boa, instead of the Taran. Then I could run a full plasma Gareth... Hello Zenotaph, I saw your post asking about my Gareth use in my thread but figured to answer here as you were likely asking for the reason that you made this thread, I'm guessing. I've ran him with an Orkan before and it's been ok, it certainly has helped me sometimes where Plasma would have not. The reason I mostly stick to plasma is simply the extra 50m range it offers. The problem with using an Orkan on Gareth is that the range you need to stick to to use it effectively binds you to a range in which your biggest strength, the shield, has a much higher chance to be rendered useless by being negated completely. To which point you may as well have charged a higher HP robot into that situation as you're going to take damage either way. So basically, even though an Orkan can work and you can do well, forcing the Gareth into a range where his only defence can be ignored completely is illogical, counter-intuitive and will limit his battle-effectiveness in the long run. In pretty much all knife fighting you have to be ready to eat some damage with every confrontation. Gareth is too fragile for that mindset and playstyle. |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 9:51:24 GMT -5
I get it. Plasma Gareth and Orkan Thunder Boa.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 11:13:34 GMT -5
 It is official. I'm in love. That was the plasma Gareth alone. Lvl 4\6. My mediums are the same level. My opponents were mostly Leos, Griffins and other meds. My allies were meds, with plasma, rockets and thunders. |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 11:34:20 GMT -5
Ah, what about a tulumbas pin Gareth?
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Post by RightOn on Dec 27, 2016 12:42:05 GMT -5
I run a 10/10/10 mini Death Button Gareth in top tier. I can get a few strikes in, doing a couple to few hundred thousand damage with Gareth.
Shield at side against other pinata/orkan, you have pleny of speed to outmaneuver short range rockets.
Just be a warrior, you can dodge aphids too
Dont be afraid to do hit-and-run style. The shield will keep you safe but if you stop moving DEAD
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 12:51:59 GMT -5
I wasn't aware, that I had to be a warrior. I'm just a guy, who loves to play games.
Outside the War Robots World, I'm a pacifist, who will never harm others. I did once,
still regretting it. In the War Robots-world, well, I might be a warrior, though...
That said, I see your point. Maybe I try this mini DB Gareth.
Oh, and I dodge Aphids, whenever I could. Just common sense.
Hit and run is essential, too. Well, maybe not for my TT Boa...
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 27, 2016 14:48:03 GMT -5
I have messed with the configs on the Gary, a lot, and the only Orkan setup I liked with it was Ork/Mag. Pinatas just don't add enough damage singly to make it worth getting rid of a non-reloading constant damage dealer. IMHO.
That said, I will always choose all Plasma unless there is either a.) a buff to another weapon that will enhance the role my Gary plays, or b.) a nerf to plasma weapons.
I will say that I am interested in the play of an all Punisher Gary since the firearm buff... but have not tried it yet. Fast, mobile suppression may be a good play option... but I don't feel that it will surpass the Plasma option in any meaningful way.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Dec 27, 2016 15:06:25 GMT -5
I just had a few matches. Orkan thunder boa and full plasma Gareth. Dream Team...
But it is saying plasma Gareth is best.
Doing some Mord matches..?
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Post by RightOn on Dec 27, 2016 15:08:07 GMT -5
I have messed with the configs on the Gary, a lot, and the only Orkan setup I liked with it was Ork/Mag. Pinatas just don't add enough damage singly to make it worth getting rid of a non-reloading constant damage dealer. IMHO. That said, I will always choose all Plasma unless there is either a.) a buff to another weapon that will enhance the role my Gary plays, or b.) a nerf to plasma weapons. I will say that I am interested in the play of an all Punisher Gary since the firearm buff... but have not tried it yet. Fast, mobile suppression may be a good play option... but I don't feel that it will surpass the Plasma option in any meaningful way. Pinata can deal nearly 23k in 2 seconds, it's perfect for hit and run. The Orkan can potentially scare off contenders if needed while Pinata reloads. Altogether 68500. In all likelihood 48 rockets can break a weapon. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 27, 2016 15:34:15 GMT -5
Fair enough... I just found that the way I use Gary facilitates less hide and seek and more flank and distract methods. I end up doing a lot of damage on many games with it, but not intentionally. Making them chase or fire on me is the goal, usually, allowing center or the opposite flank to be advanced upon by a competent blue team. Any damage I do is a bonus. And with the 350m range of plasma, I can kite the short range damage dealers enough, while steadily pelting them with plasma, and not get hurt in return. If it works for you... then cool! One of the great things about this game is there are a bunch of ways to get to the same destination... I just found that, as far as consistency is concerned, all plasma worked better for my 'lil guy's ego, as he was hitting more and getting hit less. The pitter patter of little Gareth feet is just better when it's happy  |
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The Violator
Destrier
Posts: 63
Karma: 28
Pilot name: The Violator
Platform: Android
Clan: [(RT)]
League: Silver
Favorite robot: Gepard
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Post by The Violator on Dec 29, 2016 21:07:53 GMT -5
What level do you run him to stay in silver? Or is it even possible?
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 29, 2016 21:09:41 GMT -5
What level do you run him to stay in silver? Or is it even possible? For light's the max is 4/9. Not sure if there is a MM penalty on Gareth's though. |
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The Violator
Destrier
Posts: 63
Karma: 28
Pilot name: The Violator
Platform: Android
Clan: [(RT)]
League: Silver
Favorite robot: Gepard
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Post by The Violator on Dec 29, 2016 21:13:08 GMT -5
What level do you run him to stay in silver? Or is it even possible? For light's the max is 4/9. Not sure if there is a MM penalty on Gareth's though. There is. I just got one through the event so I ran him at 1/6/5 setup and I was seeing 6/8 heavies. Just wanted to see if it was viable in silver |
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Post by Ѕπλκε✵Σψεs on Dec 29, 2016 21:14:21 GMT -5
Rockets are nice but I like the constant fire of plasma
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Post by Strayed on Dec 29, 2016 21:17:59 GMT -5
Hm, I may move the gareth up the gold purchase list if enough people start using it.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 29, 2016 21:37:41 GMT -5
Hm, I may move the gareth up the gold purchase list if enough people start using it. yes.. more easy damage for my trident fury  |
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 29, 2016 21:43:43 GMT -5
Hm, I may move the gareth up the gold purchase list if enough people start using it. yes.. more easy damage for my trident fury I agree. Why use a Gareth? Firepower's inadequate in gold, as for capping, you might as well use a rhino. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 29, 2016 21:48:52 GMT -5
yes.. more easy damage for my trident fury I agree. Why use a Gareth? Firepower's inadequate in gold, as for capping, you might as well use a rhino. the speed of the gareth vs galahad is irrelevant, and the galahads shield and hp greatly makes up for its loss of speed. I cant see very many scenarios where i would want a gareth over a galahad, which is why my gareths rarely leave the shelf. |
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Post by Strayed on Dec 30, 2016 0:24:09 GMT -5
Hold up, I wasn't saying that I would bump it over the aphid or anything, just saying that it may deserve a higher spot than the gecko.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 30, 2016 0:24:54 GMT -5
Hold up, I wasn't saying that I would bump it over the aphid or anything, just saying that it may deserve a higher spot than the gecko. its definitely above the gekko. |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 30, 2016 8:03:51 GMT -5
yes.. more easy damage for my trident fury I agree. Why use a Gareth? Firepower's inadequate in gold, as for capping, you might as well use a rhino. Dont forget the Stalker  And now since they buffed Aphids, the Gepard Aphid, that pesky little fool is impossible to kill as it just runs around the whole map |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 30, 2016 13:26:51 GMT -5
yes.. more easy damage for my trident fury I agree. Why use a Gareth? Firepower's inadequate in gold, as for capping, you might as well use a rhino. Because it works. Hey, naysayers aplenty for every bot... but I have great success with it when I play it smartly, and it shines on SF and Yam. Long beacon runs at either the opening stages or the mid to late game tug o war can be done quickly and safely, in regards to most threats. No one is arguing against the fact that it dies quickly to splash... that's why you pay attention to the battle and don't get into range of an aware Trident or Russian Death Button or Death Button user. If I do get close to either a Trident Fury or a Carny unawares... that "inadequate" firepower will kill both, and with knowing how long a Trident takes to cycle, I can hit and run well enough to do damage, and if it isn't enough, head for cover. If you chase or wait for me... then I have already done the best thing I could do... taken your attention away from the rest of the Blues. If not, and you go back to them, I will shoot you again  Galahad is better for the way one would play a Galahad. But the way one would play a Gary is more like a light bot... which it is. They were never meant to be compared or substituted for each other in the first place... why do people do that? Because they look the same? I'll happily drive a (sic) sucky bot that averages several kills/very decent damage in most games, and all kinds of beacon grabs and home beacon threats and confusion. I'm OK with that. It's a very tactical bot that relies on speed, and that dismissive attitude people have towards it. Hell, I have won a game 4 vs 1 on SF... because they couldn't catch up and I was turning beacons and moving on before they could get to the last one I was at... turned a Beacon Bar deficit into a surplus, and literally won the game. A rhino may be able to do that... but if it is forced to engage, it usually has to stick with it until the fight is over unless it wants to take a lot of fire in the ?bum-bum?... whereas the Gary, usually, can get away close to damage free, unless it is Russian Death Button and Trident fire. To be clear, I like the Galahad, a lot, and do well with it but again, I don't play the Gary the same way. BTW, it only has 1 less light hard-point than the Galahad... it's not helpless, by any means. TEHO though... Cheers and have a Happy New Year! |
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