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Post by Strayed on Dec 22, 2017 14:11:14 GMT -5
Maybe it could be dropped to 20... Then if ?poo-poo?head comes back nip it up to 100 temporarily while the posts/offending accounts are dealt with... I've been thinking of dropping it to 50 due to the feedback for it. 100 was really only a stop gap to give us time. IMO, 20 is too small of a count.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 21, 2017 13:51:53 GMT -5
Have a word with a Mod ... I had a look at your profile - you are way over 100 posts but seem to be stuck at 77 I checked, he has 83 posts. The six extra posts might not have counted to his post count because they were posted in off topic.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 20, 2017 14:58:52 GMT -5
What about just calling it what it is:
Power Creep
Alternatively, if you like things fancy:
Powercreepus Extremus
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Post by Strayed on Dec 18, 2017 2:59:50 GMT -5
"People tank because they want to win. They want their team to win" Except that they don't want their team to win. They want their team to lose so that they lose league points. Try again. "Except that they don't want their team to win. They want their team to lose so that they lose league points." When I climb up in the league I win most of the time, save my teammates from dying. Give them higher league points. Save them from being killed by enemies. For the lose of my team they just have to play 1 more game. I don't see why you have any problem with tanking. Now DON'T try again. I too won't lol Alright, I guess we'll agree to disagree.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 18, 2017 1:42:50 GMT -5
I fail to see as to what I'm telling or forcing anyone to do. I've already acknowledged that ejecting is a somewhat ?wee-wee?ish thing to do, for the other team. Since this is a team vs team game, of course I'm going to be playing for my team, not the other side. Except that you are telling others about how tanking is an unethical thing and what you are doing is totally right. Except that you are stealing other's hard earned kill and saying that it doesn't matter. Except that you are playing for yourself and not for your team. Except that you are trying to frustrate others and feeling very proud for that. So why don't you try again. "Except that you are telling others about how tanking is an unethical thing and what you are doing is totally right." I fail to see the problem with that. I'm simply using the options provided to me by pix, options that have been there from the start of the game, rather than exploiting and abusing them. "Except that you are stealing other's hard earned kill and saying that it doesn't matter." And why should I care about whether or not an enemy gets a kill or not. And it really does not matter, damage gives you silver and gold. If you're doing a kill task, at the very most, you will have to wait a few more minutes for another kill. "Except that you are playing for yourself and not for your team." And where's your proof for this? Giving myself extra valuable seconds to act is benefiting my team, decreasing the ability of one of our enemies to fight is benefiting my team, maintaining my ability to fight is benefiting my team. "Except that you are trying to frustrate others and feeling very proud for that." Except that I have never once mentioned that I am proud of that, I simply do it because it gives me and my team an advantage. Try again.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 18, 2017 1:04:33 GMT -5
"That post shows your true nature that you don't care about fair game play at all and want to win at any cost." And is there anything wrong about that? I guess that you could call me a try hard, but playing to win is how I play the game. I'm merely explaining to people why I do what I do, I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I have no power over what they want to do in game after all. I fail to see as to what I'm telling or forcing anyone to do. I've already acknowledged that ejecting is a somewhat ?wee-wee?ish thing to do, for the other team. Since this is a team vs team game, of course I'm going to be playing for my team, not the other side. "People tank because they want to win. They want their team to win" Is there anything wrong? We too agree that tanking is a somewhat wee-wee thing. If yes than what you are doing is also wrong. If no than please remove all the rules about tanking discussions on this forum. See everyone can make arguments about being right. And personally I don't have any problem regarding ejection. But when people doing that suggest playing ethically or make rules regarding other unethical things in the game that's what I don't like. "People tank because they want to win. They want their team to win" Except that they don't want their team to win. They want their team to lose so that they lose league points. Try again.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 18, 2017 0:38:52 GMT -5
I've locked all of your threads except for this one. Recruiting is fine, spamming is not.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 23:34:01 GMT -5
While I generally will not do extremely ã??wee-weeã?ish things such as tanking and other such ethically questionable actions, when I play, I'm generally playing to win(outside of when I'm just fooling around of course). I would argue that it is more moral for me to leverage any advantage that I could fairly get and play to win in order to help my team. Limiting myself and hurting my team's chances of winning is simply unfair when the odds of winning and losing are so close, anything could push either chance over the edge. One facet of why people are so frustrated by tankers is that they don't help their team. That being said, deciding upon whether or not to ditch a bot is a tactical choice that must be made according to the specific situation: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/228388/threadSo much for your false fair game play advice. As I said before it finally depends on the person what is fair/unfair or right/wrong or helpful/unhelpful. That post shows your true nature that you don't care about fair game play at all and want to win at any cost. I would say "Dare you pus#/ say anything about tankers from now on". But as you have power on this forum you can do anything you want. Like telling people that what you do in the game is always "fair/right/helpful" but what others do in the game is "unfair/wrong/waste". "That post shows your true nature that you don't care about fair game play at all and want to win at any cost." And is there anything wrong about that? I guess that you could call me a try hard, but playing to win is how I play the game. I'm merely explaining to people why I do what I do, I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I have no power over what they want to do in game after all. I fail to see as to what I'm telling or forcing anyone to do. I've already acknowledged that ejecting is a somewhat ?wee-wee?ish thing to do, for the other team. Since this is a team vs team game, of course I'm going to be playing for my team, not the other side.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 23:33:08 GMT -5
This isn’t good because people will leave crippled bots alone, they won’t be able to kill themselves for a fresh bot. An ECU Cossack is unarmed, but people don't stop firing at it and want to kill it badly. Also why would they leave a crippled bot alone? Kill it and get your silver By crippled bot, he means a bot that has also has it's movement slowed down by damage. Some people will leave a crippled bot alone as the silver you get from destroying a bot is usually not worth it in comparison to the bonus that your team gets from the crippled bot's player being out of action until he realizes that he's being ignored.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 22:13:42 GMT -5
If I was going to die without a doubt, of course Iâd eject. 1. It saves me precious time on the battlefield. Too many times Iâve lost a battle because I was a second or two too late. 2. It infuriates the opponent. This has a chance of deteriorating his ability to play. 3. It causes me to be less infuriated by a death, allowing me to have a clearer mind in the midst of battle. Kills donât matter, damage does. If someone ejects, youâve probably already had your fill of damage. The only people who care about kills are people doing them for tasks and people coming from fps games. The players I'm talking about are ones who are already winning the game. The spawn-raiding TR guys had all the beacons and much better mechs than most of my team. All I'm saying is what's the point of ejecting if you're already going to win the game? Go down fighting, don't eject just to spite the other person. You contradict yourself in your last sentence by saying that kills don't matter but then list reasons why they do...... There is a large number of players who are focused on getting those kill tasks done every day so it does really matter. I suppose that I could agree with that. However, even then, it's still not childish, merely slightly 「wee-wee」ish. And even then, you have to ask yourself as to why they should have to consider your feelings if they aren't doing something like tanking that's actually a purely unethical thing to do. Even if the battle has progressed to the point where the other side is spawncamping the other, there's still a chance of the spawncamped side winning no matter what. And even then, the faster that the bot ejects and gets back to the enemy side the more force that the spawncamping side can project upon the other side. "You contradict yourself in your last sentence by saying that kills don't matter but then list reasons why they do......" *a reason First, I only stated one reason. Second, it's really just one kill, it doesn't matter in the long run for kill tasks. If you're getting shot up in spawn by spawn campers, then I would recommend either not spawning in or leaving the battle. You're never going to get a decent amount of kills in those kind of games anyways.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 22:02:23 GMT -5
If I was going to die without a doubt, of course I’d eject. 1. It saves me precious time on the battlefield. Too many times I’ve lost a battle because I was a second or two too late. 2. It infuriates the opponent. This has a chance of deteriorating his ability to play. 3. It causes me to be less infuriated by a death, allowing me to have a clearer mind in the midst of battle. Kills don’t matter, damage does. If someone ejects, you’ve probably already had your fill of damage. The only people who care about kills are people doing them for tasks and people coming from fps games. It doesn't infuriate me when an opponent ejects, its part of the game and there is definitely a time to eject and a time not to eject. You can usually tell when someone is ejecting to spite you because it is a misplay that costs their team damage on your team and makes their allies targets faster. I've always had good luck getting kills when I need them, I'm very good at last hitting (years of League of Legends and DOTA will do that to you). Sometimes I find myself telling the pilot to get out, hoping he will eject and find myself disappointed that he didn't because I needed to take a beacon or whatever. I feel the same satisfaction when I force an ejection than when I get a kill. But it is telling that you said that and believe that, because it must infuriate you. When people try to hurt others they do things that would hurt themselves. So you do eject because you know how it affects you. Psychology is a funny thing, and the best competitors are able to put emotion aside, you can't let your competitor dictate your play. You have to in order to be your best, and so you can dictate their play (I'd definitely eject versus you if I know it gets you on tilt). Mind Gym by Gary Mack is a great book: www.amazon.com/Mind-Gym-Athletes-Guide-Excellence/dp/0071395970"But it is telling that you said that and believe that, because it must infuriate you." Honestly, not really. I do however know that it has a chance of infuriating my opponents from the threads and posts I've seen where people have stated that they are infuriated by it. I do it because I am competitive by nature and am looking to help my team by leveraging any advantage I have while not resorting to unethical tactics such as tanking down leagues. My original post was an attempt at explaining as to why I eject without having to type out an entire wall of text.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 21:57:09 GMT -5
If I was going to die without a doubt, of course IâÂ?Â?d eject. 1. It saves me precious time on the battlefield. Too many times IâÂ?Â?ve lost a battle because I was a second or two too late. 2. It infuriates the opponent. This has a chance of deteriorating his ability to play. 3. It causes me to be less infuriated by a death, allowing me to have a clearer mind in the midst of battle. Kills donâÂ?Â?t matter, damage does. If someone ejects, youâÂ?Â?ve probably already had your fill of damage. The only people who care about kills are people doing them for tasks and people coming from fps games. We are all going to die without a doubt, what matters is how you live before that happens [insert some eastern warrior wisdom here] sure save time and if you need to get back to save the beacon or do something to help actually win the game for your side, 100% do it, but your point 2 is a ã??wee-weeã? move. A single game doesn't matter, your enemy from this game is your teammate in the next and if you decide to eject just to screw a random stranger out of a kill that costs you nothing then you donÂ?t seem like the kind of individual I would want to play with. While I generally will not do extremely ?wee-wee?ish things such as tanking and other such ethically questionable actions, when I play, I'm generally playing to win(outside of when I'm just fooling around of course). I would argue that it is more moral for me to leverage any advantage that I could fairly get and play to win in order to help my team. Limiting myself and hurting my team's chances of winning is simply unfair when the odds of winning and losing are so close, anything could push either chance over the edge. One facet of why people are so frustrated by tankers is that they don't help their team. That being said, deciding upon whether or not to ditch a bot is a tactical choice that must be made according to the specific situation: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/228388/thread
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2017 13:18:27 GMT -5
If I was going to die without a doubt, of course I’d eject.
1. It saves me precious time on the battlefield. Too many times I’ve lost a battle because I was a second or two too late.
2. It infuriates the opponent. This has a chance of deteriorating his ability to play.
3. It causes me to be less infuriated by a death, allowing me to have a clearer mind in the midst of battle.
Kills don’t matter, damage does. If someone ejects, you’ve probably already had your fill of damage. The only people who care about kills are people doing them for tasks and people coming from fps games.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 16, 2017 21:18:12 GMT -5
Right now, the power creep is at that point in a stealth game where you get discovered but don't feel like reloading a save so you say screw it and start gunning everybody down.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 16, 2017 13:06:51 GMT -5
New plugin is now installed. Mods and vstf should now be getting notifications for posts waiting to be approved. Please pm me if there are any bugs.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 14, 2017 23:45:27 GMT -5
This thread makes me sad. Nitpicking of some of the finer points of the use of the English language (particularly vs non-native speakers) is obnoxious. That there are people insisting their misuse of the language needs to be accepted by the masses is beyond ignorant. Both suck, but the latter only serves to dumb down society. If you're in the latter camp, I hope you enjoyed Idiocracy because you may not realize it, but you might as well go get yourself some Brawndo. Honestly, I can ignore bad grammar somewhat, but the misuse of punctuation, such as using commas in an ellipse and spamming periods and commas all over the place(like this: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,), annoys me to no end. It's gotten worse since I brushed up on my English grammar for the SAT Writing section, now I'm seeing even more errors than I used to. P.S. Your second sentence is somewhat unclear, the lack of a transition between the two sentences can end up confusing some people. I would have written it more like this: However, despite the previous point, that there are people insisting that their misuse of the language needs to be accepted by the masses is beyond ignorant.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 13, 2017 23:30:51 GMT -5
*keep
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Post by Strayed on Dec 12, 2017 10:17:21 GMT -5
No politics.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 11, 2017 3:52:57 GMT -5
Yup, censor worked. Nice, I'll be installing that new plugin as soon as I get the chance.
British slang for cigarette thinks he won, lol. He does realize that banning him and deleting all his bull?poo-poo? takes literal seconds, right?
Anyways, VSTF, be on the lookout for new posters with poor grammar and spelling.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 10, 2017 23:27:36 GMT -5
This thread is no longer relevant as the posting of attachments has been restricted to staff only.
Please use the "add image to post" button from now on.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 10, 2017 17:32:52 GMT -5
I make it a point to never spend on multiplayer games or microtransactions. Multiplayer games I don't spend on because I don't think it's worth the money for a game that will die out sooner or later. Microtransactions I don't spend on because I don't support them ethically. Too many people have had their lives ruined by predatory microtransaction practices.
I am fine with expansion packs and DLCs with actual content however. By actual content I mean something along the lines of the dragonborn DLC, the shivering isles DLC, or the Witcher 3 Wild Hunt paid DLCs. Something that provides entire new areas and storylines to explore, not just some ingame costumes or something similarly silly that should have been included in the base game or provided as free DLC.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 10, 2017 17:01:26 GMT -5
first, thanks to all mods and vstfs diligently working to make the forum clean. I see a couple of posts from newer IDs hidden with quarantine banners. one is asking whether Anciles are still worth, the other is a newer pilot's takes on Hover bots posted about an hour ago (iPad, safari) I wonder whether there is an option to quarantine only those posts that include a link or an attached image. Most newcomers will ask questions with text-only posts, and these texts convey information (and mal-intentions) in much slower rates and hence less dangerous than graphic images, which jump out of the screen and attack eyes and brains connected to them with the entire mass of pixels at once. if quarantine can focus on only those posts with a link or an attachment, will it not lessen the burden on mods and vstfs and also prevent newcomers' posts and questions being forgotten by the time they are quarantined and shown to the public? sorry if this has been already worked on for the redundancy and thanks again! Unfortunately, no. However, once I get the time I will install a plugin that allows mods and vstf to see all posts that require approval at once.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 10, 2017 6:21:08 GMT -5
No, there was some degenerate 「fluffernutter」tard posting gore all over the forum.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 18:39:55 GMT -5
What was the function of the monetary system anyway? Mostly for fun honestly.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 18:39:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up. The post images through imgur button should only be available on desktop mode, so I restricted posting attachments to staff. This means that you will only be able to post images through imgur on desktop mode though. There is a work around that I am trying to find a different way to disable. The reason why is that disabling it the current way I know how to would disable the posting of images on desktop mode as well. Luckily, this workaround is quite inconvenient. I'm not talking about posting images now. It's simple text that I can't see in desktop mode - it has that quarantine banner - but when talking about posts made via mobile or viewed that way those are visible and unrestricted. I can see the above post by soiho that is quarantined on desktop. I will try to post a picture in desktop mode via mobile in my next post. So, fingers crossed. Hm, I checked using desktop mode on mobile and the quarantine banner showed up. There really isn't a workaround for being able to view the posts on mobile however, as mobile mode disables plugins.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 18:34:34 GMT -5
As a heads up, soon I may be removing the monetary system in order to install a companion plugin to the one meant to stop new users from posting.
This plugin will make it so that there is a list of pending posts that are waiting to be approved, making the job of approving posts much simpler for us.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 18:16:28 GMT -5
Here to report on my tests. I posted via Mozilla and discovered that I was demoted back to Destrier and my post is under quarantine. So far so good. Then I went away, posted via Chrome mobile and no quarantine there. I assume, it's visible as usual. So, on one hand I'm relieved that my infinite wisdom doesn't go to waste, on the other hand there is still work to be done. Thanks for the heads up. The post images through imgur button should only be available on desktop mode, so I restricted posting attachments to staff. This means that you will only be able to post images through imgur on desktop mode though. There is a work around that I am trying to find a different way to disable. The reason why is that disabling it the current way I know how to would disable the posting of images on desktop mode as well. Luckily, this workaround is quite inconvenient.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 4:21:23 GMT -5
The 2nd Big Papa post, which is a quote, appears under the Quarantine banner. The banner includes 2 Approve buttons, but the text still appears under the banner for me. Can you confirm I can see the text and approve buttons as I am now VSTF, or does everyone see it? Running Desktop Chrome on Android. You're vstf so it should be because of that since you can see the banner.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 4:20:40 GMT -5
If you browse the forum on safari you could try viewing the forum on desktop mode. Not sure how it works for chrome. Otherwise, it would be great if you report what posts you can to us. Should spam deletes also delete posts with this quarantine message then? Just delete the ones that blatantly break the rules. If they don't, report them to the mods and we'll deal with them. The good thing about KoD's bad grammar and spelling is that he's easy to spot, lol.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 9, 2017 1:56:01 GMT -5
Hm, I think plugins don't work on mobile, try running desktop. I can confirm this. Android platform and Chrome browser: desktop version shows banner "This Post is Under Quarantine" and cannot be quoted, but mobile version shows post contents and quote button/link is available. Windows and using Firefox Quantum shows banner, quote not available. I appreciate all what forum staff is making to prevent these posts. I've been a member of this forum almost since the beginning and truly hope this issue can be solved. War Robots is just a game afterall and this forum great addition to it Spammers don't have any reason to ruin others forum experience with these disturbing pics. Let's keep gaming fun to all and forums & other social media clean ! If you browse the forum on safari you could try viewing the forum on desktop mode. Not sure how it works for chrome. Otherwise, it would be great if you report what posts you can to us.
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