Sεરεɴίτϓ
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I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
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Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 1, 2016 22:08:38 GMT -5
Still upgrading the bot and the weapon
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 1, 2016 22:27:30 GMT -5
How you like the Raijin?
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 1, 2016 22:33:36 GMT -5
Raijin Zeus still ok,
but Fujin Hydra.....no comment.
Just make sure you know when to eject and switch to brawler to help your team then you're fine, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 22:37:37 GMT -5
I kinda like it. Your fujin seems a bit low though. I assume it must be new?
If you're dedicated, I could see that kind of hangar being a valuable support to your clanmates. I bet they love it.
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
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I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 1, 2016 22:44:31 GMT -5
The raijin got longer HP and a shield. Last time I was using a zeus carnage get slaughtered by trebuchet and plasma. So I decide to change to raijin to tank a bit. The thing I dislike Raijin is the leg is so freaking long, sometimes it block teammate to moving around you.
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
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I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 1, 2016 22:46:17 GMT -5
Raijin Zeus still ok, but Fujin Hydra.....no comment. Just make sure you know when to eject and switch to brawler to help your team then you're fine, I guess. Fujin hydra main purpose is to kill trident fury and shielding teammate a bit. But those leg is so freaking long.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 1, 2016 22:52:33 GMT -5
Raijin Zeus still ok, but Fujin Hydra.....no comment. Just make sure you know when to eject and switch to brawler to help your team then you're fine, I guess. Fujin hydra main purpose is to kill trident fury and shielding teammate a bit. But those leg is so freaking long. Just hope your teammates are not campers too, if not, you will have a hard time winning.
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
Destrier
I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 1, 2016 22:53:18 GMT -5
I kinda like it. Your fujin seems a bit low though. I assume it must be new? If you're dedicated, I could see that kind of hangar being a valuable support to your clanmates. I bet they love it. The fujin and raijin both are new bot. But I dont think my teammate are liking those spider leg. Lmao
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Pilot name: User Error
Platform: Android
Clan: None at the Moment (not active enough)
Favorite robot: any with a DB
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Post by mechwarrior on Dec 1, 2016 23:04:09 GMT -5
Hydras are under appreciated. Works as a great distraction for a simple reason; while the reds are laughing the blues are capping.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 1, 2016 23:08:26 GMT -5
Hydras are under appreciated. Works as a great distraction for a simple reason; while the reds are laughing the blues are capping. Or the reds are chasing it from half way of the map, the blues are flanking them and capping beacons.
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Favorite robot: any with a DB
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Post by mechwarrior on Dec 1, 2016 23:13:50 GMT -5
Hydras are under appreciated. Works as a great distraction for a simple reason; while the reds are laughing the blues are capping. Or the reds are chasing it from half way of the map, the blues are flanking them and capping beacons. Mmmm... point. This Serenty fellow may be onto something. I think I should reach out to see if I can recruit him for the clan. Hope I'm not poaching him from anyone here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 23:19:26 GMT -5
Or the reds are chasing it from half way of the map, the blues are flanking them and capping beacons. Mmmm... point. This Serenty fellow may be onto something. I think I should reach out to see if I can recruit him for the clan. Hope I'm not poaching him from anyone here. That's actually a breach of forum etiquette. Why don't we let him look around and get to know the forums a bit, eh? Poor guy's probably overwhelmed by all the information on offer here.
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mechwarrior
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Posts: 13
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Platform: Android
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Favorite robot: any with a DB
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Post by mechwarrior on Dec 1, 2016 23:25:17 GMT -5
Mmmm... point. This Serenty fellow may be onto something. I think I should reach out to see if I can recruit him for the clan. Hope I'm not poaching him from anyone here. That's actually a breach of forum etiquette. Why don't we let him look around and get to know the forums a bit, eh? Poor guy's probably overwhelmed by all the information on offer here. Sorry, my bad (glad this isn't a funeral cause that would be the wrong thing to say). You are quite correct. Though I feel you don't give him enough credit for his ability to absorb the plethora of data offered. On the other hand, he may just be overwhelmed. @serenity - You okay? We cool? This Gilded Wolf fellow seems like a likeable chap. He can help you out if need be.
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Post by josette2 on Dec 1, 2016 23:26:19 GMT -5
Looks good man ? gj. And TBH if you have a good squad all you need is that TT Fury.
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Post by Muhlakai on Dec 2, 2016 0:20:27 GMT -5
As a rule, this hangar worries me a LOT. It seems to indicate that you have no desire to grab beacons. This game is not won by the team who does the most damage but the team who can hold he most beacons the longest. A support-only hangar almost certainly indicates missing that key point.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 2, 2016 0:59:51 GMT -5
As a rule, this hangar worries me a LOT. It seems to indicate that you have no desire to grab beacons. This game is not won by the team who does the most damage but the team who can hold he most beacons the longest. A support-only hangar almost certainly indicates missing that key point. Well, to be fair to OP, he did indicate in this title that his is his supporting hangar. I am sure he has a hangar for solo play....?
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
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I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 2, 2016 1:02:35 GMT -5
As a rule, this hangar worries me a LOT. It seems to indicate that you have no desire to grab beacons. This game is not won by the team who does the most damage but the team who can hold he most beacons the longest. A support-only hangar almost certainly indicates missing that key point. Any suggestion bot or weapon to change?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 1:18:56 GMT -5
Personally, I kinda like the hydra fujin.
Funnily enough, I was just chatting with clanmates about how it would be interesting to have such a support bot backing us up. Just drawing the attention and anger of the enemy would open opportunities that may not exist otherwise.
Also, well done on the fancy font.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 2, 2016 1:21:50 GMT -5
A bot that may or may not distract the enemy does not make for a good bot, might as well use an ancile raijin.
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Post by Vindictive999 on Dec 2, 2016 5:27:27 GMT -5
A bot that may or may not distract the enemy does not make for a good bot, might as well use an ancile raijin. Good idea! Op have you considered this?
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
Destrier
I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 2, 2016 8:05:13 GMT -5
A bot that may or may not distract the enemy does not make for a good bot, might as well use an ancile raijin. What if aphid distract you?
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 2, 2016 8:31:31 GMT -5
Ancile Raijin is actually really really hard to kill.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 2, 2016 9:05:18 GMT -5
I LOVE this thread! Welcome Serenity, I hope you find the people here nice and informative... May your journey into the support bot aspect of the game be a prolific one...
For some reason, when I see that fuijin, I feel a saying coming up... Heil Hydra!
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Post by funyun on Dec 2, 2016 10:31:12 GMT -5
Post a battle result screen, lets see what this actually does.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 2, 2016 10:45:51 GMT -5
For all the hate on the Hydra Fujin, I had it work well on the test servers, and could never make the Rajin work, regardless of weapons. I have no intentions of buying either Hydra's or Fujins, but since he already has them and wants a secondary dedicated Clan/Squad support hanger, I see no reason not to use it.
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Sεરεɴίτϓ
Destrier
I am a noob with camper hanger
Posts: 16
Karma: 9
Pilot name: Serenity
Platform: Android
League: Gold
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Post by Sεરεɴίτϓ on Dec 2, 2016 11:02:29 GMT -5
Post a battle result screen, lets see what this actually does. It really depend on the map and situation. I am still in low gold tier FYI
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 2, 2016 15:40:02 GMT -5
What if aphid distract you? aphids are much more than a distraction, a few salvos of a dedicated aphid bot and you are dead.
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Post by Muhlakai on Dec 2, 2016 16:36:34 GMT -5
Any suggestion bot or weapon to change? Swap both spiders for knife fighters. The Fury should be enough to support any team. If it's getting knocked out in any battle you need to be brawling more. I recommend Galahads. They'll give you the ability to grab needed beacons and control the field. They can also be near-line support.
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Post by petevb on Dec 2, 2016 17:25:30 GMT -5
Any suggestion bot or weapon to change? Swap both spiders for knife fighters. The Fury should be enough to support any team. If it's getting knocked out in any battle you need to be brawling more. I recommend Galahads. They'll give you the ability to grab needed beacons and control the field. They can also be near-line support. I would tend to agree with this. I do think you can use two mid-range bots (I run 2x Trident Fury and 3x plasma Galahad currently), but I still generally recommend one. First rule: in a tough, close match you want to mech out right as the timer ends. That means you've used every bit of every bot. Second: Brawlers do damage faster and cap and hold beacons better, but being at the tip of the spear they naturally don't live as long. Third: Fast bots get the battle quickly, which means they also tend to live shorter lives. Guys who spend the whole game in a single long range camper bot have missed a basic principle. If you've been taking pot shots all game you've missed the opportunity to do more. Even if you're doing good damage, you had 4 slots that could have done more damage and/ or taken beacons. Question 1: will a particular hanger mech out early, late or roughly on schedule? Question 2: is the hanger going to take/ defend beacons and do as much damage as possible? A five Death Button Rhino hanger will do great taking beacons and doing damage, but it's very likely to mech out of a tough game early, leaving teammates outnumbered and lost in the endgame. A five Treb anything hanger is the opposite- unlikely to mech out of a close game because you're standing in the back, but unable to contribute its fare share to winning. Viewed in this light your hanger looks too conservative. The Fury, Raijin and Fujin should each last over 3 minutes played smart in a close game, so you're very unlikely to mech out. However you're not going to be contesting beacons with any of them, and beacons win the game. Played smart you should be able to swap two of them with bots that burn faster and still avoid meching out. Of the three the Fury is the strongest, so I'd keep it. The Fujin contributes the least to winning, so it should go first.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 2, 2016 18:07:01 GMT -5
Dump the Fujin before the Raijin huh? I was able to cap and defend beacons and provide fire support in Fujin Hydra's on the test server (Not as well as other bots but still...)but could add nothing at all with the Raijin, and I tried every combo I could think of to make it work. Other then that, super sound advice and well stated.
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