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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 14, 2016 9:31:08 GMT -5
i mean we all know who's gonna win, but anyway...
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Post by josette2 on Nov 14, 2016 9:50:52 GMT -5
Gareth if not for its horrible MM penalty.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Nov 14, 2016 10:09:14 GMT -5
Gepard. It dominates multiple tier levels even if it falls short of gold. Least steep learning curve as well. That said, there will always be room in my heart for the bold little Cossacks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 10:28:20 GMT -5
Cossack. It runs. It jumps. It jukes It nukes.
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Post by Deadalready on Nov 14, 2016 10:39:10 GMT -5
I like the Cossack the most, unfortunately it's left my hanger because a Gepard is plain better stats wise. It will come back once I unlock my 5th slot though
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Post by RightOn on Nov 14, 2016 11:10:51 GMT -5
Wow, no votes for Gareth. Guess that one takes too much skill >.>
Cossack will always be cool too, and it takes just as much skill to utilize
(Orkan/Pinatas)
Shutze will never find its way to upper tiers. But a lv1 chicken leg with a a base level ancile is hilarious to play with
Gepard plain sucks at top tier without Aphids. That's cool, but hardly anybody will try it. The whole farming thing is just plain stupid.
Stalker is so overused, it's easily my most hated light bot. Nearly all stalker pilots are awful.
And destrier... well destrier is pretty pointless. It's basically a tutorial bot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 11:18:45 GMT -5
Wow, no votes for Gareth. Guess that one takes too much skill >.> Cossack will always be cool too, and it takes just as much skill to utilize (Orkan/Pinatas) MM penalty is probably why. Gep has the firepower of a medium. Gareth, for 50au more, has you have to choke back the level of your bots to not have MM hate your soul,and is outperformed by Galahad where Gareth should be relevant. Stalker probably got props for being one of the most annoying bots to face wherever it's seen. If there was a medium version of aphid, I'd Rock gareth all day.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 14, 2016 11:23:41 GMT -5
In my opinion, the stalker is the best light bot. It's the only light bot that retains any use at all in the higher tiers.
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Post by Vindictive999 on Nov 14, 2016 11:49:26 GMT -5
Wow, no votes for Gareth. Guess that one takes too much skill >.> Cossack will always be cool too, and it takes just as much skill to utilize (Orkan/Pinatas) Shutze will never find its way to upper tiers. But a lv1 chicken leg with a a base level ancile is hilarious to play with Gepard plain sucks at top tier without Aphids. That's cool, but hardly anybody will try it. The whole farming thing is just plain stupid. Stalker is so overused, it's easily my most hated light bot. Nearly all stalker pilots are awful. And destrier... well destrier is pretty pointless. It's basically a tutorial bot. You write like a internal monologue, do you realise that? Also nearly all stalker pilots are awful? Pretty sweeping statement...
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 14, 2016 12:09:28 GMT -5
Wow, no votes for Gareth. Guess that one takes too much skill >.> Cossack will always be cool too, and it takes just as much skill to utilize (Orkan/Pinatas) Shutze will never find its way to upper tiers. But a lv1 chicken leg with a a base level ancile is hilarious to play with Gepard plain sucks at top tier without Aphids. That's cool, but hardly anybody will try it. The whole farming thing is just plain stupid. Stalker is so overused, it's easily my most hated light bot. Nearly all stalker pilots are awful. And destrier... well destrier is pretty pointless. It's basically a tutorial bot. You write like a internal monologue, do you realise that? Also nearly all stalker pilots are awful? Pretty sweeping statement... Maybe he means they are awful people?
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 14, 2016 12:10:14 GMT -5
Wow, no votes for Gareth. Guess that one takes too much skill >.> Cossack will always be cool too, and it takes just as much skill to utilize (Orkan/Pinatas) Shutze will never find its way to upper tiers. But a lv1 chicken leg with a a base level ancile is hilarious to play with Gepard plain sucks at top tier without Aphids. That's cool, but hardly anybody will try it. The whole farming thing is just plain stupid. Stalker is so overused, it's easily my most hated light bot. Nearly all stalker pilots are awful. And destrier... well destrier is pretty pointless. It's basically a tutorial bot. You write like a internal monologue, do you realise that? Also nearly all stalker pilots are awful? Pretty sweeping statement... Stalker pilots that I encounter are more often than not pretty bad. Occasionally there's the one really good pilot, but generally speaking the Stalker is used by players who can't find any other way to cap beacons. That's what I've observed. Most of them are passable players, and the Stalker is never truly useless, but it is seldom fully exploited. I voted Gareth. Is it the best a time all tiers? No, because it can't be used in all tiers. But for sheer pound for pound power, the Gareth easily trumps every other light bot. Speed? Stalker is faster, but Gareth isn't slow. I've NEVER lost a 1v1 duel to a Stalker. It simply hasn't got the firepower to overwhelm the Gareth, and there's not enough of a speed difference for Stalker to escape. Gepard is the only other light bot that even comes close. And, it falls woefully short of matching Gareth in a duel. Same speed, roughly equivalent firepower, but Gareth has that shield. Which, since the bots are otherwise fairly equal, becomes the deal breaker. Gepard simply can't outlast an equivalent Gareth pilot in a prolonged skirmish. So, yes I would agree Gepard is more widely useable at different levels. Stalker is easier to use effectively. Cossack is ridiculously fun to use. But, Gareth is the strongest of the light bots once fully mastered, and it's really not close. To those who who say Gareth is useless in Gold tier...I am facing L10+ bots and weapons with my 8/8/8 Taran/Mag Gareth on a regular basis. It's not a liability in my hangar, it's one of the cornerstones I build around.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 14, 2016 12:28:47 GMT -5
Love it or hate it, it's hard to argue that the Gepard isn't the most capable of the light bots.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 14, 2016 13:11:13 GMT -5
Not really, the gepard is trumped by both the gareth and the stalker in the higher tiers.
And quite frankly, the stalker is meant to be a beacon capper, it's not supposed to engage other bots unless absolutely necessary. The only bot role in which a 1v1 duel outcome would be even remotely relevant would be when discussing knife fighters. And even then, the outcome is often fudged up by ambushes and the like.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 14, 2016 16:10:02 GMT -5
This is going exactly how I expected it to lol. "Yeah ofc gep is best but you know, poor salty... I'll give Cossacks a vote too." Make my Cossacks great again
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2016 16:21:58 GMT -5
Gareth. Any light bot can try, but they won't compare. MM penalties aside... and frankly the Gareth would be OP in bronze and low silver anyway... I'm glad it has that penalty. There... I said it. It needs the penalty. No other light bot can compare when placed side by side and given the same job. Stalkers are good, they really are a pain to deal with if you are in a slow knifer... and if driven well they are phenomenal cappers. Can cause all kinds of behind the lines havoc with beacons. But so can Gareths. Cossacks are great if they don't get shot at. Geps are OK, they have the stats that help them to last a lot lnoger in the tiers than they should, but like has been said, they would fall to a comparable Gareth... Destriers... -_- I would love to see a squad of competent Gareth drivers play a top tier gold match... I don't say they would win... I'm not trolling here. But if they were driven well, they would definitely compete. Depending on the pilots... it is possible that they could win, however. Not 1 on 1 with a DB Rhino... but 1 or 2 to get attention then 1 or 2 to flank with either splash or Tarans... Even better, Geps of the same level and weapon levels. MMM tasty... braised Gepard. The speed and medium weapons are the cake, but that glorious shield is the icing. 60 Kmh at lvl 9 is very respectable. Easily able to grab beacons. Even if they are outfitted with the less often used 500m rocket loadout, they can still be valued if used correctly. A very fast Tulum/CRV combo is hell on snipers and trident throwers. Not a 1 shot 1 kill scenario by any means... but it's enough to make a Fury wake up and try and either get to cover or kill the little guy... which helps the team by default. But, I am a total Gareth fanboy... so I am horribly biased
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Post by Strayed on Nov 14, 2016 16:27:53 GMT -5
In my opinion, the gareth's main role is already taken over by the galahad and other power runners. The stalker is probably the best pure beacon capper in the game, due its 8 seconds of practical invincibility.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2016 16:31:17 GMT -5
In my opinion, the gareth's main role is already taken over by the galahad and other power runners. The stalker is probably the best pure beacon capper in the game, due its 8 seconds of practical invincibility. I just see it as a Beacon grabber that you don't have to ditch to lend a hand... it can play more than one role, and do well at it... but no doubt as a pure beacon capper the Stalker is awesome.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 14, 2016 17:38:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure if y'all realise you have 3 votes... feel free to use your other votes on the Cossack
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2016 18:14:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure if y'all realise you have 3 votes... feel free to use your other votes on the Cossack LOL! you keep me crackin up.... 3 votes? Cossack will get one
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 19:02:14 GMT -5
In my opinion, the stalker is the best light bot. It's the only light bot that retains any use at all in the higher tiers. Good point
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 14, 2016 19:08:36 GMT -5
Gepard for low bronze-low silver, stalker for high silver-top.
the gepard works well with... almost every light weapon in the game... >.>
The stalker works best with pinatas and aphids.
If you are ambitious you can use the gepard with aphids in any tier, however stalker is the safer and generally more effective option.
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Post by Curry Pot on Nov 14, 2016 23:01:25 GMT -5
Any stalker, when used right, is incredibly infuriating to fight and can turn a lot of beacons quickly, but thankfully good stalker pilots are almost as rare as they are annoying. IMO the Pinata and Aphid Stalkers are the worst because they can attack with virtual impunity and it is extremely difficult to corner and destroy either, but neither appears in large enough numbers to impact the metagame.
I ended up voting gepard because they are hands down the strongest bot in low tiers and have the most influence on the outcome of a game than any other bot, although I was tempted to vote Stalker because of just how effective they are when piloted well.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 15, 2016 0:56:45 GMT -5
Who actually voted for the switch bot?? XDD
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Post by Strayed on Nov 15, 2016 1:03:48 GMT -5
Prototype switch bot is an aphid patton on steroids.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 15, 2016 1:09:41 GMT -5
On steroids... if they keep the ability cool down to 5 seconds.
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 1:16:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure if y'all realise you have 3 votes... feel free to use your other votes on the Cossack voted Cossack just for you bud!
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Post by B30RLL on Nov 15, 2016 3:38:14 GMT -5
I too voted for cossack. Best value for money among light bots.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 15, 2016 3:53:09 GMT -5
On steroids... if they keep the ability cool down to 5 seconds. But they've already changed it to 17 seconds.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 15, 2016 5:22:22 GMT -5
On steroids... if they keep the ability cool down to 5 seconds. But they've already changed it to 17 seconds. Welp there we go it's no longer a steroid nuke pat.
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Post by 《₩hirl》 on Nov 15, 2016 8:36:30 GMT -5
*Points to Avatar* Because rule of cool.
We all know I love my Stalker, and its definately not a bot you can just Stroll around in while pressing the big red shiny candy like button (bonus points if you guess the reference) without breaking a sweat. Engage wrong and you're a poptart.
Cossacks are super fun and are great at distractions when piloting them.
Gepards are a robust bot, bad rep aside.
Schutze and Destriers are awesome in the lower tiers, but sadly thats where they stay.
As for the Gareth, I'll avoid those as much as possible if I'm in my Stalker. They're really not a bot you can go tonne for tonne with. If you're running plasma, run away.
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