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Post by Beerhog on Dec 12, 2019 12:04:55 GMT -5
So I am not sure what direction to take my account in as far as the weapons go. I am debating whether I should focus my silver and resources on upgrading cheap weapons, or abandon them completely and pursue better component weapons that are far more expensive to level. Some time ago I ground out scourge in the workshop, and with a lot of effort I managed to get it to lvl8 and than the next upgrade costs 13 million. I got other cheaper things in my hangar that need leveled so I'll be running that lvl8 scourge for a long time. I just had a thought, that with all this silver and effort I could have lvl12 punisher T instead, which probably could do more damage. So essentially the question boils down to what is better, running higher leveled cheap weapons or half leveled meta weapons? What are your thoughts?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 12, 2019 12:11:42 GMT -5
No offense, but man is that an old question to which the answer is "maybe."
There's a great thread that popped up today about the favorite weapons in the Legends League. Def check that out. The short answer is Storms may be the answer you are looking for. Not insanely hard to get and comparatively cheap to upgrade. Nothing is as cheap as the Punisher T though. Good luck!
This thread: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/37442/bots-weapons-legend-league-2019 - totally worth a look.
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Post by RightOn on Dec 12, 2019 12:20:35 GMT -5
The chart in my sig displays the price differences.
If you want to go champ on a budget, then legacy gear is your best bet.
Lv 1 to lv11 Molots/punishers/thunders cost as much it takes to level a component item (such as Corona) from 8 to 9.
You can get into champ with lv8 component gear - but not all of it. Eventually I drop out of C and climb back up again to remind myself why it's not important.
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Post by Phycoshot on Dec 12, 2019 12:21:49 GMT -5
One thing to think about is that the more silver you are putting into a weapon, the more silver it will give you in return, punishers might be dirt cheap but scourges put out way more damage. Same thing with halos vs. magnums, one time where that is not the case is putting the avenger against something, because it is really cheap and is arguably the best heavy in the game for what is costs. Storms and avenger give the best bang for buck, but for the lower silver weapons the only ones you would want to upgrade would be punishers or ecus for defence
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 12, 2019 13:01:44 GMT -5
What league are you in now and are you planning/hoping on getting into Champions?
You also need to ask yourself, what sort of playstyle you like, what sorts of bots you have, and do you ever plan on spending any real money.
In terms of longetivity, I've found the below weapons to have the most "shelf life".
Punisher and Punisher T
These weapons are often overlooked because they do pitiful damage at lower levels. But, when you get them to around Mk1 L10, they're actually decent - especially when paired with an Avenger. They work well with a variety of bots too, so if you get something better down the road, these will continue to rock.
Tulumbas and to a lesser extent Pins
If you only have one hangar, then a RDB build is almost mandatory. Tulus and Pins are great in that they start at L5 and when you get them to around Mk1 L10, they can do significant damage. You can run this build first with a Griffin or Rhino, and if you pull an Ares, Tyr or even a Spectre in the future, you will be good. Don't level the Pins too much in case you get a Spectre cause then you'll need to get and level another pair of Tulus.
Trident
These got nerfed recently but they still kick out a ton of damage at higher levels. I got mine to L10 before I retired them and I only did that cause I didn't need them anymore. If you have a good RDB build, then you don't need Tridents. But, if you want a replacement for RDB, then Trident is the way to go. They are cheap to get and cheap to level, and if you have 3 of them on a Fury or later on Falcon, it's an excellent MR build.
Aphid - when at high level or paired with Vortex later on
On their own, Aphids aren't that great. I've seen high level Aphids do decent damage, but I keep seeing screwy things with them. Like when I ran 4 L10 Aphids on an Ao Qin, I didn't seem to hit very often. But, if I throw a pair of Aphids with Vortex and fire all at once, all of a sudden, my hit rate goes up and I do a lot more damage. Personally, I think there' something a bit screwy with Aphid (and Thermite for that matter) flight paths, but when you fire them with Vortex, the problem goes away and they follow the Vortex flight path. Anyway, this type of build is called a Slingshot build, and I've found it to be one of the best "normal" counters to any new OP content. I was using this build to single shot kill Ares way before the Ares got nerfed. They even do well against Titans cause you can stay in cover for a long time and just keep lobbing missiles.
Zeus when you have at least two, preferably three
This weapon used to be the king of MR energy. Now that we have Pulsars, Dragoons and stuff, they've kinda fallen by the wayside, but if you have 3 decently leveled, they still rock. You can even pair then with Ions later on if you pull them from a chest.
If you're free to play, you can't go wrong with sticking with these weapons. They also pair nicely with their premium weapon counterparts if you get lucky enough to pull or build them. Yes, I purposely left out Tarans and Orkans even though they're still powerful. The problem with those is that A - they require a high degree of skill and B - in today's meta, you'll have a hard time getting into range and staying alive long enough to use them to their full potential. I have 4 Tarans and 10 Orkans and I hardly use them anymore.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 12, 2019 13:15:11 GMT -5
Forgot to add some thoughts about component weapons.
Vortex - this is a must if you want to run a proper Slingshot build. Don't bother with Thermite as they suck worse than a broken vacuum cleaner right now.
Scourge - I invested heavily in Scourges. I have like 8 or nine of them right now. If you're a F2P player though, I would probably skip these altogether and go straight to Pulsars.
Pulsars - I LOVE this weapon and I wish I could grind out more. I have 4 and they sit on a Spectre. If you're F2P, you really need to stay out of brawling range as much as possible. These things can dish out Taran level damage as far as 600m. They unload fast and reload fast.
Avenger - this weapon is a must. Don't bother leveling Thunders. Just get Avengers as soon as you can.
Halo/Shredders - I'll lump these all together. If you're F2P, I'd probably stick with Halos and Shredders. They are cheaper than Glory and Corona and will do just as well if not better in certain situations. One of the best bots you can build is a Shredder/Halo Blitz. This bot has an almost perfect blend of agility, range options and close range punch.
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Post by Desc440 on Dec 12, 2019 13:53:20 GMT -5
You can get away with silver weapons for lights and meds, but all the silver heavies suck 「bum-bum」, so you kinda HAVE to get comp ones. Avenger is great but Gold is kinda in high demand these days with pilots.
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Post by Beerhog on Dec 12, 2019 15:02:30 GMT -5
What league are you in now and are you planning/hoping on getting into Champions? You also need to ask yourself, what sort of playstyle you like, what sorts of bots you have, and do you ever plan on spending any real money. In terms of longetivity, I've found the below weapons to have the most "shelf life". Punisher and Punisher T These weapons are often overlooked because they do pitiful damage at lower levels. But, when you get them to around Mk1 L10, they're actually decent - especially when paired with an Avenger. They work well with a variety of bots too, so if you get something better down the road, these will continue to rock. Tulumbas and to a lesser extent Pins If you only have one hangar, then a RDB build is almost mandatory. Tulus and Pins are great in that they start at L5 and when you get them to around Mk1 L10, they can do significant damage. You can run this build first with a Griffin or Rhino, and if you pull an Ares, Tyr or even a Spectre in the future, you will be good. Don't level the Pins too much in case you get a Spectre cause then you'll need to get and level another pair of Tulus. Trident These got nerfed recently but they still kick out a ton of damage at higher levels. I got mine to L10 before I retired them and I only did that cause I didn't need them anymore. If you have a good RDB build, then you don't need Tridents. But, if you want a replacement for RDB, then Trident is the way to go. They are cheap to get and cheap to level, and if you have 3 of them on a Fury or later on Falcon, it's an excellent MR build. Aphid - when at high level or paired with Vortex later on On their own, Aphids aren't that great. I've seen high level Aphids do decent damage, but I keep seeing screwy things with them. Like when I ran 4 L10 Aphids on an Ao Qin, I didn't seem to hit very often. But, if I throw a pair of Aphids with Vortex and fire all at once, all of a sudden, my hit rate goes up and I do a lot more damage. Personally, I think there' something a bit screwy with Aphid (and Thermite for that matter) flight paths, but when you fire them with Vortex, the problem goes away and they follow the Vortex flight path. Anyway, this type of build is called a Slingshot build, and I've found it to be one of the best "normal" counters to any new OP content. I was using this build to single shot kill Ares way before the Ares got nerfed. They even do well against Titans cause you can stay in cover for a long time and just keep lobbing missiles. Zeus when you have at least two, preferably three This weapon used to be the king of MR energy. Now that we have Pulsars, Dragoons and stuff, they've kinda fallen by the wayside, but if you have 3 decently leveled, they still rock. You can even pair then with Ions later on if you pull them from a chest. If you're free to play, you can't go wrong with sticking with these weapons. They also pair nicely with their premium weapon counterparts if you get lucky enough to pull or build them. Yes, I purposely left out Tarans and Orkans even though they're still powerful. The problem with those is that A - they require a high degree of skill and B - in today's meta, you'll have a hard time getting into range and staying alive long enough to use them to their full potential. I have 4 Tarans and 10 Orkans and I hardly use them anymore.Thank you for informative reply. Personally I have no preference on what league I'm playing, I just am sick of being second from the bottom on the damage totem poll. I never knew tridents were so cheap to lvl, I'll have to look into incorporating them. |
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Post by hi5 on Dec 12, 2019 15:23:54 GMT -5
TBH there is no good answer. Weapons you use in lower leagues that are cheap to upgrade are likely not what you would use in upper leagues. Weapons that are costly to upgrade and more powerful might not be as powerful by the time you get everything leveled up. It’s widely speculated that avengers, halos and Coronas will get nerfed. Gusts, orkans and Tarans already did (the latter two had been gold standard “safe to upgrade” for years)
My personal opinion is upgrade what you like to use and will earn you silver, and only up to level 9 until you hangar is all lv 9. Upgrades get really pricy past 9 so you want to be solid in what you want to invest in - need time to figure out what works and at higher levels.
And haunt this forum as meta shifts and slide so much, deciding what to invest in leveling and where the trends are is almost like financial investing - research and staying in the know is the best route.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Dec 12, 2019 17:41:47 GMT -5
So I am not sure what direction to take my account in as far as the weapons go. I am debating whether I should focus my silver and resources on upgrading cheap weapons, or abandon them completely and pursue better component weapons that are far more expensive to level. Some time ago I ground out scourge in the workshop, and with a lot of effort I managed to get it to lvl8 and than the next upgrade costs 13 million. I got other cheaper things in my hangar that need leveled so I'll be running that lvl8 scourge for a long time. I just had a thought, that with all this silver and effort I could have lvl12 punisher T instead, which probably could do more damage. So essentially the question boils down to what is better, running higher leveled cheap weapons or half leveled meta weapons? What are your thoughts? I would work on getting the weapons you want to use, don't meta chase though as you will be going the idiot route. Unless you pay money you will never reach the top because pix changes the meta enough that you wouldn't get to the top by the time you are getting steam rolled by new maxed equipped whales. Just pick out a few weapons that seem fun to you and a few robots that are the same, start making those and don't stop. Leveling gear you don't want to use or won't use in the future will leave you stuck and frustrated so push for stuff that you want to play and have fun, don't end up hating this game out of frustration. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 12, 2019 18:26:22 GMT -5
Some great info here... Can you do a hangar screenshot and upload it here? Might can give you a bit more targeted advice if you want it... If not, I can basically say that what Koala and the others said is right on the money. To add to it a little... The info on the Punisher/Avenger, Storm/Gust, Shredder/Pulsar, and Halo/Corona families is somewhat dependent upon Pilot skills. You will definitely want to get and max out the better shot grouping (Sharpshooter) skill first. Then the Acceleration boost (Speed Shooter). These really make the biggest difference with all of those as it extends your effective range enough and gets the damage amped up fast enough to make even spending 1000 Au to get them instead of randomly spinning and hoping, worth it. You can definitely run them without either skill, in fact I do so right now on several builds since I have been juggling my weapons around lately and don't care about my standings in the battles due to a complete lack of ?dookie?s to give... but there is a very noticeable difference that will help you achieve your goal of not coming in last if you use any of these weapons.
For Scourge... if you intend to continue to use it and even get more with some Sparks and/or Calamity for any build, the faster lock-on skill (Guidance Operator) is very nice, too. Not as much of a "must have" as the Sharpshooter/Speed Shooter skills.
Personally, I would say that having at least 2 Punishers and/or Punisher-Ts leveled high is not a bad investment for any player... but I am a Leadhose junkie and am completely biased. There is just something about running a Lance with all the Pilot skills that matter with an Avenger and 2 Pun-Ts... it is always nice to put down one of those new high falootin' bots with old skool kool. 
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Jeb on Dec 13, 2019 9:27:07 GMT -5
I've been in Champs since July. My hangar has eight Magnums, three Tarans, one RDB setup, and a Thunder. I've only recently started using one Halo on my Leo and sometimes I swap in a pair of Coronas and a pair of Punishers for the RDB setup.
So yeah, I'd say getting gold weapons to a high level (all mine are Mk2 and at least L4) is definitely a viable strategy.
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Post by RightOn on Dec 14, 2019 7:23:14 GMT -5
One thing to think about is that the more silver you are putting into a weapon, the more silver it will give you in return, punishers might be dirt cheap but scourges put out way more damage. Same thing with halos vs. magnums, one time where that is not the case is putting the avenger against something, because it is really cheap and is arguably the best heavy in the game for what is costs. Storms and avenger give the best bang for buck, but for the lower silver weapons the only ones you would want to upgrade would be puni weshers or ecus for defence This is true to an extent. I think people forgot that higher level weapons raised repair costs. This is why Titans don't help payouts. These days repair cost is hidden from view. Now back in the day a medium was worth a heavy, didn't matter what weapon. It might still be the same. And Thunders are good. I'd sooner recommend thunders and punishers vs 2500 Au avengers and storms. |
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Post by milty72 on Dec 19, 2019 2:22:25 GMT -5
 And at the end of it all and what others have said it's all dependent on what your end goal is. My goal is to play with all the toys in the sandpit and have fun. What's good for you might not be good for someone else. Set a cap. As someone else said L9 and try out all the weapons and bot combos. You really don't need lots of any one weapon. I think 4 is the sweet spot as you never really need more then four of anything on one bot at any one time. I like my weapons to L10 but new stuff starts getting really costly so I go to L8 with that and push the envelope if I really like it. Competition at any level is competition. The higher the harder and Pix will push you there unless you cap yourself. Have fun shooting reds and enjoying the challenge because that is the game. |
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Post by servant111 on Jan 6, 2020 17:39:48 GMT -5
Gotta confess...after 30 years or so playing and beta testing most of the Mecha games since Crescent Hawks Revenge....War Robots crept up on me...signed up for it about three weeks ago...and leveled up to 27... Gotta confess...though...this is one of the worst Mecha games I have ever played. \
First....there are no features...absolutely NONE. all of the common stuff that we have seen in virtually ever single release since Mech Warrior 3 in 1997 or so...are absent here.....No in battle meps...Meks that are a poorly modeled joke....ie no speed and no first person....no in game chat....no meta campaign game component...and only about 5 maps or so... There is no beef here.. It's basic...and almost totally ripped off from World of Tanks Blitz.
Second...the game is the absolutely WORST ripoff ever in on line gaming....no grinding at all....all of the game is pay to play....and everything is constantly reworked to ensure that every single possible cent is squeezed from the suckers who play this game..... Thus no matter what you spend...and frankly you can spend thousands of dollars on this POS....and your op meta tank advantage is purposely nerfed about every 3 to 6 months to increase churn.
Third...the game developer is one of a long chain of Russian flim flam operations....The game bears a close resemblance to an on line gambling casino....and the house rules guarantee an epic fail for any player who is Free to Play....you have to spend huge amounts of cash to even play in this carny shell game.... The constant churn in updates nerfs etc is strictly about squeezing every possible penny from the sucker player base. And of course being a Russian gaming provider like World of Tanks...they couldn't care less nor to they seek ANY customer feedback for improving the game. Heck the CEO even brags about how very much the game is rigged....many aspects used in t his game have been BANNED in the EU.
There is little "fun" in this game unless you spend huge amounts of cash buying the latest meta...then you can spend your expensive time and op mech and weapons....clubbing baby seals....cause these worthless game developers have structured the game to place level 30 players with newbies to the game.
In short it's just awefull across the board..and given the typical Russian arrogance..as shown by the CEO and his apparatchiks it will only get even worse.
And I gotta say...as an absolute mechhead of long standing....I am seriously ticked off.... I AM TIRED OF THE WOT Squeeze Play being done on mecha games.... I was hoping for something decent....not yet another trip to the carnival midway shell games..
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Post by DogTrail on Jan 7, 2020 11:39:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty late to this thread. This is my first post in this forum in over a year. I stopped playing before Christmas of 2018. It just got old, and too expensive for someone who only has at most 1 hour to play everyday and stay in Champion League.
Anyhow, I'm back, and my advice has nothing to do with which weapons to upgrade. I say, upgrade the ones that you have fun in. If that's Punisher T's and the highest you get to is Expert or Master 3, so be it. If you get bored, then get and upgrade something else. You're asking about cost, so obviously you're cost-conscious. Set a cost cap. Mine was around $25 a month before things got crazy. To get to (and stay in) Champion, you need to either play a lot or pay a lot (maybe even both, but just one or the other is possible). So, don't make getting to Champion your goal. If you get there on your budget, then great! If not, then it's not the end of the world if you never get there, if it was never your goal in the first place.
So, in summary:
1. Have fun
2. Cap your cost (or as mentioned, your weapon/bot level to have more toys to play with)
3. Don't make it a goal to reach Champ. It can be stressful.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 7, 2020 11:49:08 GMT -5
Gotta confess...after 30 years or so playing and beta testing most of the Mecha games since Crescent Hawks Revenge....War Robots crept up on me...signed up for it about three weeks ago...and leveled up to 27... Gotta confess...though...this is one of the worst Mecha games I have ever played. \ First....there are no features...absolutely NONE. all of the common stuff that we have seen in virtually ever single release since Mech Warrior 3 in 1997 or so...are absent here.....No in battle meps...Meks that are a poorly modeled joke....ie no speed and no first person....no in game chat....no meta campaign game component...and only about 5 maps or so... There is no beef here.. It's basic...and almost totally ripped off from World of Tanks Blitz. Second...the game is the absolutely WORST ripoff ever in on line gaming....no grinding at all....all of the game is pay to play....and everything is constantly reworked to ensure that every single possible cent is squeezed from the suckers who play this game..... Thus no matter what you spend...and frankly you can spend thousands of dollars on this POS....and your op meta tank advantage is purposely nerfed about every 3 to 6 months to increase churn. Third...the game developer is one of a long chain of Russian flim flam operations....The game bears a close resemblance to an on line gambling casino....and the house rules guarantee an epic fail for any player who is Free to Play....you have to spend huge amounts of cash to even play in this carny shell game.... The constant churn in updates nerfs etc is strictly about squeezing every possible penny from the sucker player base. And of course being a Russian gaming provider like World of Tanks...they couldn't care less nor to they seek ANY customer feedback for improving the game. Heck the CEO even brags about how very much the game is rigged....many aspects used in t his game have been BANNED in the EU. There is little "fun" in this game unless you spend huge amounts of cash buying the latest meta...then you can spend your expensive time and op mech and weapons....clubbing baby seals....cause these worthless game developers have structured the game to place level 30 players with newbies to the game. In short it's just awefull across the board..and given the typical Russian arrogance..as shown by the CEO and his apparatchiks it will only get even worse. And I gotta say...as an absolute mechhead of long standing....I am seriously ticked off.... I AM TIRED OF THE WOT Squeeze Play being done on mecha games.... I was hoping for something decent....not yet another trip to the carnival midway shell games.. Try Mech Battle... the Devs seem to actually care about player experience. It's not as polished and all that, but the gameplay experience as a whole, is better geared for players. If I hadn't had such a good starting point and understanding of War Robots since before the microtransactions saturated it, I would have moved on to MB wholly... instead I sorta dropped off of most games due to RL and this is the one I have stuck with... for better or worse. That may change at any time though. MM has GOT to get better for me to say for sure but I don't have a whole lot of hope left for that. MM is their main component for driving sales. I am interested in the platform merger and will stick around for that I think.
Anyway, yeah we know, and it's cool to meet another mechhead! o7
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 7, 2020 11:50:27 GMT -5
I'm pretty late to this thread. This is my first post in this forum in over a year. I stopped playing before Christmas of 2018. It just got old, and too expensive for someone who only has at most 1 hour to play everyday and stay in Champion League. Anyhow, I'm back, and my advice has nothing to do with which weapons to upgrade. I say, upgrade the ones that you have fun in. If that's Punisher T's and the highest you get to is Expert or Master 3, so be it. If you get bored, then get and upgrade something else. You're asking about cost, so obviously you're cost-conscious. Set a cost cap. To get to (and stay in) Champion, you need to either play a lot or pay a lot (maybe even both, but just one or the other is possible). So, don't make getting to Champion your goal. If you get there on your budget, then great! If not, then it's not the end of the world if you never get there, if it was never your goal in the first place. So, in summary: 1. Have fun 2. Cap your cost (or as mentioned, your weapon/bot level to have more toys to play with) 3. Don't make it a goal to reach Champ. It can be stressful. Blast from the past! Good to see ya posting again! And I wholeheartedly agree with your post. I practice exactly this. |
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Post by derps on Jan 7, 2020 14:42:21 GMT -5
To the OP, (although thread is old, and he hasnt responded for a month...) Dont focus on league climbing, or status on scoreboard. Set yourself goals. You can get yourself quite a long ways with a combination of free, and eventually, low gold cositng weapons... To start, leveled Punishers, Thunders, Tulumbus, Pins can keep you afloat for decent dmg vs silver payout in lower leagues. As you start to slowly accumulate gold, you can save towards weapons like Tarans, Orkans, or if feeling extra patient, continue saving for Avengers, Storms, Gusts. This will help put you on track to getting into more competitive leagues and getting higher scoreboard turnout. but focus on saving gold for one item at a time, while churning out low cost Ag upgrades for current weapons, saving the larger majority of your Ag bank. This will take months on end to build up, but try to focus on the fun of the challenge. Expand your tactical expertise: it forces you to play smarter than P2P players. Try to challenge yourself with personal dmg outputs which will improve based on tactics/upgrades. Tactics such as beacon capping, using cover and retreat intelligently, sticking with teammates for advantage pushes, sticking with blue heal bots and never charging blindly for the sake of dmg output. without knowing the overall inventory of what you are currently working with, general advice is all we can really give. be frugal, don't spend unless it is a very cheap, solid upgrade, be very patient, and be persistent. play regularly, and you will find your resources and skills expanding in no time! *Generic angry rant with no substance or addition to the topic at hand Im sorry, i just pictured a flood of this:   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 18:13:20 GMT -5
This was my journey...Coming off a lot of other games, I dropped a lot of money on War Robots instead, and due to the Black Market I am saturated in Coronas, Pulsars and Halos. I wanted to concentrate all my money on levelling the best weapons first (like Coronas), but it wasn't economical going into battle with lower level weapons. After struggling with Coronas and Pulsars for a while it seemed better for me to start with levelling cheap weapons like Punishers and Avengers first. Leadhose is also better at a longer distance than shotguns, and that's where most of my own battles end up (other than all the invincible Leeches getting in my face). On the downside, it requires accurate aiming in this impossible lag. So I mostly use high level Leadhose now, and I've introduced 4x Storms to the mix. After they get levelled I may try Coronas, Halos and maybe Pulsars. 1x Avenger Lv.12 MK2
2x Yan-Di Avenger Lv.12 MK2
1x Avenger Lv. 4 MK2
1x Yan-Di Avenger Lv. 5
7x Yan-Di Avenger Lv. 1
4x Punisher T Lv.12 MK2
2x Punisher Lv. 4 MK2
2x Punisher Lv. 6
4x Viper Lv. 8
3x Viper Lv. 1
1x Pulsar Lv. 9
1x Pulsar Lv. 7
4x Pulsar Lv. 6
3x Pulsar Lv. 1
1x Glory Lv. 8
1x Glory Lv. 7
1x Corona Lv. 4 MK2
3x Corona Lv. 7
2x Yan-Di Corona Lv. 7
2x Yan-Di Corona Lv. 4
5x Corona Lv. 1
3x Storm Lv. 4 MK2
1x Storm Lv. 9
3x Halo Lv. 8
2x Halo Lv. 1
2x Gust Lv. 1
1x Glacier Lv. 9
1x Glacier Lv. 8
2x Sinister Glacier Lv. 8
4x Exodus Lv. 5
1x Cryo Lv. 4
3x Cryo Lv. 1
4x Orkan Lv. 5
2x Rime Lv. 4
1x Sinister Rime Lv. 4
1x Rime Lv. 1
1x Sinister Rime Lv. 1
2x Calamity Lv. 1
1x Ember Lv. 6
3x Ember Lv. 1
4x Igniter Lv. 1
4x Blaze Lv. 1
4x Redeemer Lv. 1
2x Taran Lv. 7
2x Taran Lv. 1
4x Chimera Lv. 7
1x Flux Lv. 3 MK2
3x Flux Lv. 9
1x Trebuchet Lv. 1
4x Ballista Lv. 1
2x Arbalest Lv. 1
4x Zenit Lv. 5
1x Ancile Lv. 8
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Post by DogTrail on Jan 11, 2020 16:37:12 GMT -5
This was my journey...Coming off a lot of other games, I dropped a lot of money on War Robots instead, and due to the Black Market I am saturated in Coronas, Pulsars and Halos. I wanted to concentrate all my money on levelling the best weapons first (like Coronas), but it wasn't economical going into battle with lower level weapons. After struggling with Coronas and Pulsars for a while it seemed better for me to start with levelling cheap weapons like Punishers and Avengers first. Leadhose is also better at a longer distance than shotguns, and that's where most of my own battles end up (other than all the invincible Leeches getting in my face). On the downside, it requires accurate aiming in this impossible lag. So I mostly use high level Leadhose now, and I've introduced 4x Storms to the mix. After they get levelled I may try Coronas, Halos and maybe Pulsars. 1x Avenger Lv.12 MK2
2x Yan-Di Avenger Lv.12 MK2
1x Avenger Lv. 4 MK2
1x Yan-Di Avenger Lv. 5
7x Yan-Di Avenger Lv. 1
4x Punisher T Lv.12 MK2
2x Punisher Lv. 4 MK2
2x Punisher Lv. 6
4x Viper Lv. 8
3x Viper Lv. 1
1x Pulsar Lv. 9
1x Pulsar Lv. 7
4x Pulsar Lv. 6
3x Pulsar Lv. 1
1x Glory Lv. 8
1x Glory Lv. 7
1x Corona Lv. 4 MK2
3x Corona Lv. 7
2x Yan-Di Corona Lv. 7
2x Yan-Di Corona Lv. 4
5x Corona Lv. 1
3x Storm Lv. 4 MK2
1x Storm Lv. 9
3x Halo Lv. 8
2x Halo Lv. 1
2x Gust Lv. 1
1x Glacier Lv. 9
1x Glacier Lv. 8
2x Sinister Glacier Lv. 8
4x Exodus Lv. 5
1x Cryo Lv. 4
3x Cryo Lv. 1
4x Orkan Lv. 5
2x Rime Lv. 4
1x Sinister Rime Lv. 4
1x Rime Lv. 1
1x Sinister Rime Lv. 1
2x Calamity Lv. 1
1x Ember Lv. 6
3x Ember Lv. 1
4x Igniter Lv. 1
4x Blaze Lv. 1
4x Redeemer Lv. 1
2x Taran Lv. 7
2x Taran Lv. 1
4x Chimera Lv. 7
1x Flux Lv. 3 MK2
3x Flux Lv. 9
1x Trebuchet Lv. 1
4x Ballista Lv. 1
2x Arbalest Lv. 1
4x Zenit Lv. 5
1x Ancile Lv. 8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:30:24 GMT -5
Effective when mounted on my Level 9 bots, DogTrail . Often able to get #1 and top damage in a lot of low-Champions League iOS games. It's making me a lot of silver to upgrade my other weapons / bots, and helping my Operation rewards along. One little trick is slightly emptying Leech / Ao Jun clips a little before walking / flying into battle, so they can fully empty themselves during the attack and begin reloading if I choose to Phase Shift. I could do with a change / some variety though. |
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Post by lmc on Jan 14, 2020 3:29:42 GMT -5
Gotta confess...after 30 years or so playing and beta testing most of the Mecha games since Crescent Hawks Revenge....War Robots crept up on me...signed up for it about three weeks ago...and leveled up to 27... Gotta confess...though...this is one of the worst Mecha games I have ever played. \ First....there are no features...absolutely NONE. all of the common stuff that we have seen in virtually ever single release since Mech Warrior 3 in 1997 or so...are absent here.....No in battle meps...Meks that are a poorly modeled joke....ie no speed and no first person....no in game chat....no meta campaign game component...and only about 5 maps or so... There is no beef here.. It's basic...and almost totally ripped off from World of Tanks Blitz. Second...the game is the absolutely WORST ripoff ever in on line gaming....no grinding at all....all of the game is pay to play....and everything is constantly reworked to ensure that every single possible cent is squeezed from the suckers who play this game..... Thus no matter what you spend...and frankly you can spend thousands of dollars on this POS....and your op meta tank advantage is purposely nerfed about every 3 to 6 months to increase churn. Third...the game developer is one of a long chain of Russian flim flam operations....The game bears a close resemblance to an on line gambling casino....and the house rules guarantee an epic fail for any player who is Free to Play....you have to spend huge amounts of cash to even play in this carny shell game.... The constant churn in updates nerfs etc is strictly about squeezing every possible penny from the sucker player base. And of course being a Russian gaming provider like World of Tanks...they couldn't care less nor to they seek ANY customer feedback for improving the game. Heck the CEO even brags about how very much the game is rigged....many aspects used in t his game have been BANNED in the EU. There is little "fun" in this game unless you spend huge amounts of cash buying the latest meta...then you can spend your expensive time and op mech and weapons....clubbing baby seals....cause these worthless game developers have structured the game to place level 30 players with newbies to the game. In short it's just awefull across the board..and given the typical Russian arrogance..as shown by the CEO and his apparatchiks it will only get even worse. And I gotta say...as an absolute mechhead of long standing....I am seriously ticked off.... I AM TIRED OF THE WOT Squeeze Play being done on mecha games.... I was hoping for something decent....not yet another trip to the carnival midway shell games.. My PC can't handle mwo |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:00:00 GMT -5
How’s the Punisher T’s working out for you? Often able to get me #1 and top damage when mounted on Level 9 meta bots in iOS low-Champions League as I mentioned, but here's some older 5.0 comparison specs: Using the Spreadsheet on this thread: IMPROVED! The Ultimate Weapon Comparison Tool (for War Robots 5.0)  I didn't add Cryo / Orkans as they are 300m splashing burst weapons with a low sustained DPS. Same for 500m Tulumbas. |
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Post by DogTrail on Jan 15, 2020 3:52:41 GMT -5
Nice figures. Time to toss my Tarans, it seems! Thanks!  |
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Post by airjam101 on Feb 17, 2020 11:23:04 GMT -5
To the OP, (although thread is old, and he hasnt responded for a month...) Dont focus on league climbing, or status on scoreboard. Set yourself goals. You can get yourself quite a long ways with a combination of free, and eventually, low gold cositng weapons... To start, leveled Punishers, Thunders, Tulumbus, Pins can keep you afloat for decent dmg vs silver payout in lower leagues. As you start to slowly accumulate gold, you can save towards weapons like Tarans, Orkans, or if feeling extra patient, continue saving for Avengers, Storms, Gusts. This will help put you on track to getting into more competitive leagues and getting higher scoreboard turnout. but focus on saving gold for one item at a time, while churning out low cost Ag upgrades for current weapons, saving the larger majority of your Ag bank. This will take months on end to build up, but try to focus on the fun of the challenge. Expand your tactical expertise: it forces you to play smarter than P2P players. Try to challenge yourself with personal dmg outputs which will improve based on tactics/upgrades. Tactics such as beacon capping, using cover and retreat intelligently, sticking with teammates for advantage pushes, sticking with blue heal bots and never charging blindly for the sake of dmg output. without knowing the overall inventory of what you are currently working with, general advice is all we can really give. be frugal, don't spend unless it is a very cheap, solid upgrade, be very patient, and be persistent. play regularly, and you will find your resources and skills expanding in no time! *Generic angry rant with no substance or addition to the topic at hand Im sorry, i just pictured a flood of this: It certainly was off topic at points but it has plenty of substance and your snarkiness just shows an immature side I'd hope isn't the usual attitude because frankly, all negative comments in this rant are pretty much spot on. So unless you can actually prove his points wrong, it seems pointlessly wrong to be so mocking. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 17, 2020 11:41:48 GMT -5
To the OP, (although thread is old, and he hasnt responded for a month...) Dont focus on league climbing, or status on scoreboard. Set yourself goals. You can get yourself quite a long ways with a combination of free, and eventually, low gold cositng weapons... To start, leveled Punishers, Thunders, Tulumbus, Pins can keep you afloat for decent dmg vs silver payout in lower leagues. As you start to slowly accumulate gold, you can save towards weapons like Tarans, Orkans, or if feeling extra patient, continue saving for Avengers, Storms, Gusts. This will help put you on track to getting into more competitive leagues and getting higher scoreboard turnout. but focus on saving gold for one item at a time, while churning out low cost Ag upgrades for current weapons, saving the larger majority of your Ag bank. This will take months on end to build up, but try to focus on the fun of the challenge. Expand your tactical expertise: it forces you to play smarter than P2P players. Try to challenge yourself with personal dmg outputs which will improve based on tactics/upgrades. Tactics such as beacon capping, using cover and retreat intelligently, sticking with teammates for advantage pushes, sticking with blue heal bots and never charging blindly for the sake of dmg output. without knowing the overall inventory of what you are currently working with, general advice is all we can really give. be frugal, don't spend unless it is a very cheap, solid upgrade, be very patient, and be persistent. play regularly, and you will find your resources and skills expanding in no time! Im sorry, i just pictured a flood of this: It certainly was off topic at points but it has plenty of substance and your snarkiness just shows an immature side I'd hope isn't the usual attitude because frankly, all negative comments in this rant are pretty much spot on. So unless you can actually prove his points wrong, it seems pointlessly wrong to be so mocking. Maybe the amount of off topic, all knowing, self aggrandizing ranting that happens in threads that are supposed to be for advice instead of in the rant section where they belong was a... ahem... tipping point... for him to dive into some humor. Either way, derps is good peeps and, in the internet world, and even this forum, his post wasn't over the line at all, IMO. Yeah he was mocking in the end... but he gave a legitimate answer in the beginning that was actually on topic. Maybe it's just because of the over saturation of rants that don't have jack ?dookie? to do with the topic, but I for one find it more rude to litter an advice thread with all that is wrong with the game than with calling someone out about doing so. I am no lover of Pixo's game choices, either, as many of my posts show, at least I hope so, as I would not want to mistakenly give an ounce of approval to them.
But... you are absolutely free to feel the way you do and I don't claim to speak for Derpy in the least... just my perspective.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by airjam101 on Feb 18, 2020 8:38:36 GMT -5
Fair play. I appreciate the points, plus, I know I'm a complete casual at best! I had the impression he was defending pixonic, we all play and enjoy many aspects of this game but my word, they don't make it easy! Apologies for any offense, or if I jumped the gun! Having not been on these forums for a year or so, I can imagine the constant and consistent (justified, yes but it will still wear you down.) Ranting could certainly wear thin. I guess, here, it's a given that pix, take the piss. That's good to know! I only really play due to my friend and it being the only game he can still.play with his eyesight having gone so bad as to be registered blind. So I'll play as long as he does and we have tablets that will run it! But he hasn't paid a penny and has 400m and 20k au and massive amounts of bots, weapons and pilots with 1k plat saved as well. You could say he grinds a lot! Any way, all the best, no offense meant |
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Post by no pain 80 on Feb 18, 2020 9:52:23 GMT -5
So I am not sure what direction to take my account in as far as the weapons go. I am debating whether I should focus my silver and resources on upgrading cheap weapons, or abandon them completely and pursue better component weapons that are far more expensive to level. Some time ago I ground out scourge in the workshop, and with a lot of effort I managed to get it to lvl8 and than the next upgrade costs 13 million. I got other cheaper things in my hangar that need leveled so I'll be running that lvl8 scourge for a long time. I just had a thought, that with all this silver and effort I could have lvl12 punisher T instead, which probably could do more damage. So essentially the question boils down to what is better, running higher leveled cheap weapons or half leveled meta weapons? What are your thoughts? Punisher T is a good investment imo. I cant speak the same for the other tier 1 weapons though. Run a high level leadhose build, but I would push upgrading higher tier weapons at them mean time. On ios and android, you can save 13M Ag in a few days, just by exploiting the 1200min speed-up for supply drops (9 daily free ads x 500k Ag for Champions League supply drops is 4.5M Ag). In a month you will save enough to have it upgraded to lvl10. As to whether scourge is worth of leveling my personal opinion is no, it is not, but you can apply this to other weapons that you have right now, or will acquire in the future.
Good luck and enjoy,
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 18, 2020 10:28:53 GMT -5
Fair play. I appreciate the points, plus, I know I'm a complete casual at best! I had the impression he was defending pixonic, we all play and enjoy many aspects of this game but my word, they don't make it easy! Apologies for any offense, or if I jumped the gun! Having not been on these forums for a year or so, I can imagine the constant and consistent (justified, yes but it will still wear you down.) Ranting could certainly wear thin. I guess, here, it's a given that pix, take the piss. That's good to know! I only really play due to my friend and it being the only game he can still.play with his eyesight having gone so bad as to be registered blind. So I'll play as long as he does and we have tablets that will run it! But he hasn't paid a penny and has 400m and 20k au and massive amounts of bots, weapons and pilots with 1k plat saved as well. You could say he grinds a lot! Any way, all the best, no offense meant You're good man, and I think Derps would agree...
As far as your friend... that's great that not only does he still have an outlet to game even with his disability, but that he has done so well while still being F2P! I hope he has many more great battles as long as he can... and props to you for helping him enjoy it!
Happy hunting!
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