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Post by spartan44 on Nov 29, 2019 8:42:37 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. It's a pretty brutal bot on long maps with some protection. I thought I'd try the behemoth with my mk2 flux and maxed thermos, pilots etc .
What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. Behemoth is nearly unusable. Sure, when you can hit someone it melts bots at a ludicrous rate but, you can't see anything on the battlefield while moving, the switch is cumbersome and slow, you can't track targets to cover and open the angle, its slow...and ugly.
If anyone out there is a support player thinking a behemoth would be cool, don't waste your time. It's just plain aweful. If you are going to run a flux bot, use a fury. Until a bot is introduced that can move with 4 heavies, fury still rules.
Behemoth is a true piece of junk.
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 29, 2019 9:20:48 GMT -5
One of my biggest complaints with Jun and other heavies is the fact that everything you want to see is blocked from view if you’re even slightly above the target
And yes everyone figured the behemoth was a colossal joke the minute they announced it.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 29, 2019 9:51:46 GMT -5
He's a brawler or mid-range bot.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Nov 29, 2019 9:53:22 GMT -5
You think? I believe a Trident Behemoth can do it all from 600 meters. Shieldbreaker allows it to punch through every kind of shield because Tridents have splash, but more importantly they're very cheap to upgrade. Less durable than my current Raijin, but we'll see.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 29, 2019 10:45:02 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. It's a pretty brutal bot on long maps with some protection. I thought I'd try the behemoth with my mk2 flux and maxed thermos, pilots etc . What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. Behemoth is nearly unusable. Sure, when you can hit someone it melts bots at a ludicrous rate but, you can't see anything on the battlefield while moving, the switch is cumbersome and slow, you can't track targets to cover and open the angle, its slow...and ugly. If anyone out there is a support player thinking a behemoth would be cool, don't waste your time. It's just plain aweful. If you are going to run a flux bot, use a fury. Until a bot is introduced that can move with 4 heavies, fury still rules. Behemoth is a true piece of junk. All transformer bots are junk with the current meta. Until princess power bots are eliminated, I wouldn’t waste any time on them at all, unless you don’t really care about winning. |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 29, 2019 10:46:41 GMT -5
One of my biggest complaints with Jun and other heavies is the fact that everything you want to see is blocked from view if you’re even slightly above the target And yes everyone figured the behemoth was a colossal joke the minute they announced it. It’s not all that large. Certainly or enough to justify the moniker behemoth. It’s about the same size as a Lancelot. If not slightly less imposing even |
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 29, 2019 11:01:00 GMT -5
One of my biggest complaints with Jun and other heavies is the fact that everything you want to see is blocked from view if you’re even slightly above the target And yes everyone figured the behemoth was a colossal joke the minute they announced it. It’s not all that large. Certainly or enough to justify the moniker behemoth. It’s about the same size as a Lancelot. If not slightly less imposing even It’s not a size thing it’s a game mechanics thing with top mounted weapons that block your game view way too often |
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Post by snk on Nov 29, 2019 11:09:55 GMT -5
Probably just equip Quantum Radar and kill those Ao Jun in the sky? i don't have Behemoth, but it's hurt my Ao Jun.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 29, 2019 11:09:59 GMT -5
It’s not all that large. Certainly or enough to justify the moniker behemoth. It’s about the same size as a Lancelot. If not slightly less imposing even It’s not a size thing it’s a game mechanics thing with top mounted weapons that block your game view way too often I play with raijin and weyland. Most of the time my screens shaking or my view is totally blocked. You get used to it |
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 29, 2019 11:13:00 GMT -5
Hats off to this ultra troll build I caught a glimpse of this week. Just needs 2 more thermo nukes and a billion silver to finish it out!   |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 29, 2019 12:03:20 GMT -5
I disagree. Quad tridents at level 12 do nice damage. Use shield breaker too. I usually brawl, but like the change of pace sometimes. He is level 5. Champ league. IOS.
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Post by Jeb on Nov 29, 2019 12:08:25 GMT -5
I've seen a few Behemoths lately that did some spanking at range using Flux, Dragoons, or Tridents. Heaven help 'em if they don't have another bot providing them cover, though, because someone WILL come for them.
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Post by orionpax on Nov 29, 2019 12:30:13 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. It's a pretty brutal bot on long maps with some protection. I thought I'd try the behemoth with my mk2 flux and maxed thermos, pilots etc . What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. Behemoth is nearly unusable. Sure, when you can hit someone it melts bots at a ludicrous rate but, you can't see anything on the battlefield while moving, the switch is cumbersome and slow, you can't track targets to cover and open the angle, its slow...and ugly. If anyone out there is a support player thinking a behemoth would be cool, don't waste your time. It's just plain aweful. If you are going to run a flux bot, use a fury. Until a bot is introduced that can move with 4 heavies, fury still rules. Behemoth is a true piece of junk. All transformer bots are junk with the current meta. Until princess power bots are eliminated, I wouldn’t waste any time on them at all, unless you don’t really care about winning. . Those ancient tyrs ant pretty buff man. |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 29, 2019 13:07:54 GMT -5
All transformer bots are junk with the current meta. Until princess power bots are eliminated, I wouldn’t waste any time on them at all, unless you don’t really care about winning. . Those ancient tyrs ant pretty buff man. Having used it for a bit now, I can say it remorselessly kills ares. It also destroys non resistant units, eventually even some shielded bots. It can hold its own against singular leeches. And it’s incredibly weak against Ao Jun. It’s next to useless against falcons. Although it can defeat fenrir. If I had to say where this unit shines, it’s as a duelist. None of this matters because Ao Jun wreck it. It can’t take abeacon in the way a leech does. And it gets crushed as soon as it runs into a couple of anything of the above that gives it trouble. It’s **barely** usable. And I’m being generous with that |
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 29, 2019 13:19:10 GMT -5
. Those ancient tyrs ant pretty buff man. Having used it for a bit now, I can say it remorselessly kills ares. It also destroys non resistant units, eventually even some shielded bots. It can hold its own against singular leeches. And it’s incredibly weak against Ao Jun. It’s next to useless against falcons. Although it can defeat fenrir. If I had to say where this unit shines, it’s as a duelist. None of this matters because Ao Jun wreck it. It can’t take abeacon in the way a leech does. And it gets crushed as soon as it runs into a couple of anything of the above that gives it trouble. It’s **barely** usable. And I’m being generous with that
My experience is along the same lines. The physical shield makes it solid at mid-range but it is useless has a kinfe-fighter unless you are 1v1.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Nov 29, 2019 13:20:04 GMT -5
I believe your opinion on Flux Behemoth will change in the next couple months against the Titans. Kang Dae will also do well, as will 4 Dragoons. The most popular titan weapons of choice are the cannon, rockets, and guns, and they are only 500m. The Dragoon type titan weapons aren’t as popular because they don’t do well in the small maps. For these reasons, 600m+ weapons will be helpful against titans running devastating 500m weapons.
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 29, 2019 13:24:20 GMT -5
I believe your opinion on Flux Behemoth will change in the next couple months against the Titans. Kang Dae will also do well, as will 4 Dragoons. The most popular titan weapons of choice are the cannon, rockets, and guns, and they are only 500m. The Dragoon type titan weapons aren’t as popular because they don’t do well in the small maps. For these reasons, 600m+ weapons will be helpful against titans running devastating 500m weapons. Does the Ao Ming struggle as much with the dragoon-like weapons? I figured with the extra elevation, it wouldn't be as big of an issue. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Nov 29, 2019 13:38:01 GMT -5
I believe your opinion on Flux Behemoth will change in the next couple months against the Titans. Kang Dae will also do well, as will 4 Dragoons. The most popular titan weapons of choice are the cannon, rockets, and guns, and they are only 500m. The Dragoon type titan weapons aren’t as popular because they don’t do well in the small maps. For these reasons, 600m+ weapons will be helpful against titans running devastating 500m weapons. Does the Ao Ming struggle as much with the dragoon-like weapons? I figured with the extra elevation, it wouldn't be as big of an issue. The main reason Dragoon-type weapons don’t do well on small maps is the reload mechanic is slow, and this allows many types of enemy mechs to close in and kill you. So even on Ao Ming, what I found is it was more easily killed on small maps if loaded with Dragoon-type than the others. This is why, as far as Titans go, I do not recommend equipping Dragoon-type titan weapons unless you have two hangars and two Titans, so that you can load the Dragoon-types on your large map Titan. |
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Post by orionpax on Nov 29, 2019 17:41:35 GMT -5
I believe your opinion on Flux Behemoth will change in the next couple months against the Titans. Kang Dae will also do well, as will 4 Dragoons. The most popular titan weapons of choice are the cannon, rockets, and guns, and they are only 500m. The Dragoon type titan weapons aren’t as popular because they don’t do well in the small maps. For these reasons, 600m+ weapons will be helpful against titans running devastating 500m weapons. . This is the sole reason I haven’t sold my last behemoth. ? |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 29, 2019 18:18:41 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. You lost me at hello (in the first line). I am glad you decided to ditch the Behemoth. Thankfully that abomination is only really effective on a few maps and those maps should have more cover on spawn points IMO. Having someone standing 1100 metres away with line of sight to the enemies spawn point is just stupid. |
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Post by spartan44 on Nov 29, 2019 21:48:05 GMT -5
Brawler 99.9% of the time. The shear awfulness of the behemoth may have have just pushed me to an even 100%.
Damn....its so bad.
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Post by spartan44 on Nov 29, 2019 21:52:09 GMT -5
I believe your opinion on Flux Behemoth will change in the next couple months against the Titans. Kang Dae will also do well, as will 4 Dragoons. The most popular titan weapons of choice are the cannon, rockets, and guns, and they are only 500m. The Dragoon type titan weapons aren’t as popular because they don’t do well in the small maps. For these reasons, 600m+ weapons will be helpful against titans running devastating 500m weapons. . This is the sole reason I haven’t sold my last behemoth. ? Yeah, I'll keep it but it will gather dust until pix buffs the crap out of it AND changes the mechanics. They are so goofy they just may do it at some point. I still don't think I can stomach it though. |
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Nov 29, 2019 23:23:02 GMT -5
The secret of the behemoth is to be patient and go for already weakened bots, You cannot tell me that my lvl. 5 behemoth with 4x lvl. 7 Zeus's is overpowered, I just know how to use it, Prioritize your targets and you will get a crap ton more kills, I should know!
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 30, 2019 5:27:44 GMT -5
I disagree. Quad tridents at level 12 do nice damage. Use shield breaker too. I usually brawl, but like the change of pace sometimes. He is level 5. Champ league.m Quit running my tridents when they nerfed the splash down to completely useless. My triple Mk 2 level 12s on fury was a blast when they had serious splash now quad tempests against titans could be fun |
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Post by tectonic on Nov 30, 2019 6:09:01 GMT -5
Yall’ be using the dang thing wrong. I’ve been running what I call the tempbeast setup and it does quite well for me. While it is quite squishy when you get caught, the real question is why did you get caught? Did you setup to far away from cover? Did you not equip phase shift so you can escape? You should know better than to not have equipped phase shift. Why did you even let anything get close enough to return fire? I’m about to reveal to you a secret that is so very secret, a secret society called the back-eius up-eius was formed to protect it from regular players. Ready? Here goes. That little circle that moves your bot forward and side to side? It also can move your bot backward!!! Shocker! I know right? Maintain your range to stay alive. The behemoth is not a bot you can use to push forward with. Ranged support and cleanup are where this gem of a bot shine.
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Post by RightOn on Nov 30, 2019 7:29:15 GMT -5
4x lv8 Tempest has over 33k dps and nearly 400k cycle damage. lv12 has over 500k cycle and nearly 50k dps.
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Post by pewpewninja on Nov 30, 2019 7:41:54 GMT -5
If you play on android champs you surely have come across that korean dude running all behemoth hangar.
Last time i played him he got 2,8 mil.
When i checked his stats 6 kills, 1,2 mil dmg 68% win.
So im not sure what youre talking about.
What level is your behemoth? What loadout are you running? Do you have last stand on it? Are you using phase shift.
I mean pretty much anything works.
4 x avengers, dragoons, tridents, avalanche, ?dookie? even kang daes blows things up when you have 4.
I mean give me a maxed behemoth with 4 mk2 avengers and sharpshooter, last stand and phase shift and i'll probably get a few godlike easy with it.
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 30, 2019 7:41:55 GMT -5
I disagree. Quad tridents at level 12 do nice damage. Use shield breaker too. I usually brawl, but like the change of pace sometimes. He is level 5. Champ league.m Quit running my tridents when they nerfed the splash down to completely useless. My triple Mk 2 level 12s on fury was a blast when they had serious splash now quad tempests against titans could be fun The old splash would have been insane on this setup. That would bring a smile to my face and a scowl to the reds. ? |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 30, 2019 7:51:34 GMT -5
Yall’ be using the dang thing wrong. I’ve been running what I call the tempbeast setup and it does quite well for me. While it is quite squishy when you get caught, the real question is why did you get caught? Did you setup to far away from cover? Did you not equip phase shift so you can escape? You should know better than to not have equipped phase shift. Why did you even let anything get close enough to return fire? I’m about to reveal to you a secret that is so very secret, a secret society called the back-eius up-eius was formed to protect it from regular players. Ready? Here goes. That little circle that moves your bot forward and side to side? It also can move your bot backward!!! Shocker! I know right? Maintain your range to stay alive. The behemoth is not a bot you can use to push forward with. Ranged support and cleanup are where this gem of a bot shine. I couldn’t agree more. Just cause it stays put for four weapons doesn’t mean you can’t pack up and move. Watched Manni for the idea, then went ahead with the project and it has been anything less than impressive. Slow as dirt and cumbersome, absolutely. But nowhere near useless and ineffective. ( backious upious society. Priceless.) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 10:00:14 GMT -5
I think you're spot on. I'm a brawler and don't use long range, but I haven't seen Behemoths on the battlefield much (I'm in Champions League). They seem like a bust.
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