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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 30, 2019 10:34:27 GMT -5
Yall’ be using the dang thing wrong. I’ve been running what I call the tempbeast setup and it does quite well for me. While it is quite squishy when you get caught, the real question is why did you get caught? Did you setup to far away from cover? Did you not equip phase shift so you can escape? You should know better than to not have equipped phase shift. Why did you even let anything get close enough to return fire? I’m about to reveal to you a secret that is so very secret, a secret society called the back-eius up-eius was formed to protect it from regular players. Ready? Here goes. That little circle that moves your bot forward and side to side? It also can move your bot backward!!! Shocker! I know right? Maintain your range to stay alive. The behemoth is not a bot you can use to push forward with. Ranged support and cleanup are where this gem of a bot shine. No offense but your experience in Expert League is utterly irrelevant. However best of luck and happy hunting. and reports of some Korean mega whale running full Mk2 and maxed modules is an anomaly when virtually everyone says they rarely see one in Champions League. Just another reason to head to Silver League and enjoy some variety
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 30, 2019 12:55:22 GMT -5
In iOS Champions League, my level 7 behemoth manages fine in Dom with tempests and avengers (mk2 3).
In iOS Champions League, it manages fine in BR in a girly contested beacon with glaciers and Exodus.
It's a great bot I just need silver to level it...
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Post by tectonic on Nov 30, 2019 14:40:05 GMT -5
Yall’ be using the dang thing wrong. No offense but your experience in Expert League is utterly irrelevant. However best of luck and happy hunting. and reports of some Korean mega whale running full Mk2 and maxed modules is an anomaly when virtually everyone says they rarely see one in Champions League. Just another reason to head to Silver League and enjoy some variety My bad for not updating my profile league. I’m currently in master II, 30 cups away from master I. So you better believe that I regularly get tossed in with the all mighty champions. (All hail the haughty champions) Regardless even when I was in expert it was the same thing. Tossed in with the champions. also your wording in your post leads me to believe that you either don’t have, or run a behemoth. Making your post utterly irrelevant. No offense.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 4:33:54 GMT -5
My first successful joyful experience with Behemoth was using 3x low level Exodus and an Ancile, and later, Last Stand. Exodus + Loader Skin looked so cool together, and they were great at quickly unloading once Siege Mode is activated. Actually killing another bot was always a plus.Zenit Behemoth provides great (and cheap) fireworks for any match, and even damage - if you can actually hit anything. Fire the 4 Zenits in a well timed sequence for an endlessly unbroken roaringly shower of falling explosions between each reload. (I still remember when the roaring shower of entire Zenit teams struck me with demoralising fear in the early leagues - knowing we'd likely all die before reaching anyone or anything on the map.) As a serious combative member of my team, 4x Flux with the Lockdown module seemed okay (if boring at times) while rising up through the leagues, but now I'm more interested in trying out shorter range sniping with a 4x Pulsar Leech (possibly the most perfect skilled META build in War Robots) or Spectre (600m death from above!). As for a competitive (though it seems to need a LOT of skill to keep killing bot after bot) Behemoth build in Champion League, it seems 4x Level 7 Chimera guided missiles with 3x +4% damage via Level 4 Nuclear Reactors, +5% damage via Adrian's mastery pilot skill, +2.5% damage via Master Gunsmith, and 50% lock-on speed bonus via Guidance Operator, along with either Death Mark or Phase Shift is currently my most viable Behemoth build, though I find it still requires considerable skill in order to effectively kill off enemy bots and help my team (instead of just hitting buildings and protective bot abilities until it dies). After my 4x Level 12 Sharpshooter Speed Shooter Avengers failed to kill a single non-Last Stand Leech before needing to reload, I'm not sure if any close range line of sight build is overly viable, at least at my economy level. P.S. Though I don't have any Tempest, I found a 4x Sharpshooting Tempest Behemoth performed great on the test server.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Dec 2, 2019 9:12:53 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. It's a pretty brutal bot on long maps with some protection. I thought I'd try the behemoth with my mk2 flux and maxed thermos, pilots etc . What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. Behemoth is nearly unusable. Sure, when you can hit someone it melts bots at a ludicrous rate but, you can't see anything on the battlefield while moving, the switch is cumbersome and slow, you can't track targets to cover and open the angle, its slow...and ugly. If anyone out there is a support player thinking a behemoth would be cool, don't waste your time. It's just plain aweful. If you are going to run a flux bot, use a fury. Until a bot is introduced that can move with 4 heavies, fury still rules. Behemoth is a true piece of junk. try dragoons, much more worth it. Using just the TNRs, pilot skills (adamant, normal and master gunsmith, also adrian) and a deathmark you can deal 371,000 damage in those 6 seconds of deathmark, just learn the good sniping points and or mid range points.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 2, 2019 11:18:36 GMT -5
My first successful joyful experience with Behemoth was using 3x low level Exodus and an Ancile, and later, Last Stand. Exodus + Loader Skin looked so cool together, and they were great at quickly unloading once Siege Mode is activated. Actually killing another bot was always a plus.Zenit Behemoth provides great (and cheap) fireworks for any match, and even damage - if you can actually hit anything. Fire the 4 Zenits in a well timed sequence for an endlessly unbroken roaringly shower of falling explosions between each reload. (I still remember when the roaring shower of entire Zenit teams struck me with demoralising fear in the early leagues - knowing we'd likely all die before reaching anyone or anything on the map.) As a serious combative member of my team, 4x Flux with the Lockdown module seemed okay (if boring at times) while rising up through the leagues, but now I'm more interested in trying out shorter range sniping with a 4x Pulsar Leech (possibly the most perfect skilled META build in War Robots) or Spectre (600m death from above!). As for a competitive (though it seems to need a LOT of skill to keep killing bot after bot) Behemoth build in Champion League, it seems 4x Level 7 Chimera guided missiles with 3x +4% damage via Level 4 Nuclear Reactors, +5% damage via Adrian's mastery pilot skill, +2.5% damage via Master Gunsmith, and 50% lock-on speed bonus via Guidance Operator, along with either Death Mark or Phase Shift is currently my most viable Behemoth build, though I find it still requires considerable skill in order to effectively kill off enemy bots and help my team (instead of just hitting buildings and protective bot abilities until it dies). After my 4x Level 12 Sharpshooter Speed Shooter Avengers failed to kill a single non-Last Stand Leech before needing to reload, I'm not sure if any close range line of sight build is overly viable, at least at my economy level. P.S. Though I don't have any Tempest, I found a 4x Sharpshooting Tempest Behemoth performed great on the test server. If you will use a heavy mech in close quarters combat, use a raijin. It’s the best. Accept no substitute.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 2, 2019 11:27:46 GMT -5
"Backious Upious" - Reminds me of the Road Runner cartoon, and Wile E. Coyote was a super genius in his Behemoth.
In upper Champions League, Behemoths are rare. A major reason is that shotguns can take them out quickly because the are so tall, wide, and squishy. Do I have a quad-Chimera "TrollBot 2000 Ultra" waiting for the Titan release? Yep. Will it have PS and will I back up with it? Yes. Am I counting on winning not only the day, but the respect of my clan mates, and the attention of the best looking chick in the bar? No.
Manni and others have said as awesome and troll-riffic as this bot is you can't cap beacons with it. You are ONLY a support/TDM bot. Now that I am Titan hunting, is a Patton quad-Noricum build viable? Maybe, as the Titans are big and slow enough that all the Nori rounds may hit them. I like Noris, they are annoying and dangerous AF when levelled-up. (Or, they used to be when I was in Masters).
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Post by linearblade on Dec 2, 2019 11:33:37 GMT -5
"Backious Upious" - Reminds me of the Road Runner cartoon, and Wile E. Coyote was a super genius in his Behemoth. In upper Champions League, Behemoths are rare. A major reason is that shotguns can take them out quickly because the are so tall, wide, and squishy. Do I have a quad-Chimera "TrollBot 2000 Ultra" waiting for the Titan release? Yep. Will it have PS and will I back up with it? Yes. Am I counting on winning not only the day, but the respect of my clan mates, and the attention of the best looking chick in the bar? No. Manni and others have said as awesome and troll-riffic as this bot is you can't cap beacons with it. You are ONLY a support/TDM bot. Now that I am Titan hunting, is a Patton quad-Noricum build viable? Maybe, as the Titans are big and slow enough that all the Nori rounds may hit them. I like Noris, they are annoying and dangerous AF when levelled-up. (Or, they used to be when I was in Masters). Let’s be fair, mannI ain’t that good. After I get my medium load out done for my tyr, I’m gonna sub in a moth and do just that. If it can be done with a raijin, I suspect it can be done with chunk style
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 2, 2019 11:40:32 GMT -5
linearblade: There are guys out there that could kick my behindus with a lvl 1 Galahad. Should anybody try a flanking move to capture a beacon at Yamantau/Canyon/Springfield with a Behemoth? You could try... but YMMV. Best of luck with your Tyr! I hope you farm tons of honor points with it. I have one but I don't have the RM/time to level it up.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 2, 2019 11:42:22 GMT -5
linearblade : There are guys out there that could kick my behindus with a lvl 1 Galahad. Should anybody try a flanking move to capture a beacon at Yamantau/Canyon/Springfield with a Behemoth? You could try... but YMMV. Best of luck with your Tyr! I hope you farm tons of honor points with it. I have one but I don't have the RM/time to level it up. I’m enjoying the bugged shield. Soon as he gets nerf, I’ll go back to lance, or maybe a raven.
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Post by Beerhog on Dec 2, 2019 13:49:44 GMT -5
This Manni guy on you tube would have you believe you can slay all day with Behemoth.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Dec 2, 2019 17:32:11 GMT -5
linearblade : There are guys out there that could kick my behindus with a lvl 1 Galahad. Should anybody try a flanking move to capture a beacon at Yamantau/Canyon/Springfield with a Behemoth? You could try... but YMMV. Best of luck with your Tyr! I hope you farm tons of honor points with it. I have one but I don't have the RM/time to level it up. I’m enjoying the bugged shield. Soon as he gets nerf, I’ll go back to lance, or maybe a raven. I would love to hear how you could do with a strider if you are ok with that. I have heard plenty about your skills as well so I think you could do very well. Happy hunting with whatever you do though!
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Post by linearblade on Dec 2, 2019 17:38:08 GMT -5
I’m enjoying the bugged shield. Soon as he gets nerf, I’ll go back to lance, or maybe a raven. I would love to hear how you could do with a strider if you are ok with that. I have heard plenty about your skills as well so I think you could do very well. Happy hunting with whatever you do though! It would be decent on s strider, id use the same setup. But I think the dash portion is wasted, and you will want to rayker rebuff damage.
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Post by RightOn on Dec 2, 2019 18:07:36 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tempest Behemoth will be the best Behemoth. It will slay Titans.
All you need is sharpshooter and the 1s enhanced fire rate.
Some might say PS but you could run Quantum Radar and demolish any Ao Jun's.
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Post by Windybutt on Dec 2, 2019 18:40:28 GMT -5
In ffa it definitely sucks, because i can't really remember ever seeing it actually. Don't see it much around in the few br/dom games i play either. I mean, leech has 4 mediums instead of 4 (but 2 if you move.....) heavys. +its ability.
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Post by shivaswrath on Dec 2, 2019 20:09:12 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tempest Behemoth will be the best Behemoth. It will slay Titans. All you need is sharpshooter and the 1s enhanced fire rate. Some might say PS but you could run Quantum Radar and demolish any Ao Jun's. Very true. I have a pair of tempests on the main set and a pair of Avengers when In the battle mode (I assume I'll be attacked a lot so kept the Avengers as the 450m back up)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 20:23:13 GMT -5
If you will use a heavy mech in close quarters combat, use a raijin. It’s the best. Accept no substitute. I love Rajins! - one of the first War Robots I desperately wanted (and still somewhat do), but despite all the money I've spent I still haven't ended up with one. Note to self: Vipers seem effective against Leeches, Phantoms, Fenrir and Traditionalist Falcons, and 4x Vipers seem able to kill a Leech that is Repulsing onto the Behemoth. *shrugs* [ post-test edit ]: with 1x Lv1Mk2 Avenger + 3x unlevelled Lv1 Vipers + Shield Breaker (in the second round) I was able to help kill off a number of bots during two random Team Deathmatches at Castle, including shielded Ares and Repulsing Leeches. The three Level 1 Vipers still take a while to eat away at a Repulsing Leech, often taking two encounters with one. ...but I'm happy with the direction this is taking. [edit #2] I'm now running 4 low-level Vipers with a Shield Breaker module. I find it hard to target Phantoms. Also, Stealth bots are a pain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 3:52:54 GMT -5
I finally have a new addition to my hangar, linearblade : I like every skin on it.
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Post by slugpug on Jan 12, 2020 13:55:49 GMT -5
Had several Mings headed for the hills last night, took a lvl 25 one outa the sky in 1.5 clips. Yes he’s clunky and slow, but if you set him up right and use cover it can work. I don’t think I’m going to mk2 that 4th Tempest though because it’s NE unlike my other 3. Still I think using a Fury and still being able to move is a better choice, it’s hard to maintain angles and cover. I run mostly stupid bots that aren’t supposed to work anyways so my Behemoth is just another pet project.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 16:59:11 GMT -5
I got mine loaded with 4 thunder lol
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Post by spartan44 on Jan 12, 2020 17:56:43 GMT -5
Tried the leveled tempest too. Ineffective. Behemoth has a HUGE problem in Champions League. That problem is spelled PHANTOM. Just about every damn time I drop the behemoth there is a phantom in my face annihilating me. You simply can't escape phantoms in Champions League in the behemoth. Give me a fury over behemoth any day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 18:38:05 GMT -5
there's a TB player running around with a long range build. Since almost all bots are brawling and shotty, it gives them a huge advantage. Plus when the mings and Big Boys come out, then it's a turkey shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 18:43:57 GMT -5
Glacier and Exodus can be excellent Phantom counters.
Avalanche and Trident can hit nose-dived Phantoms too.
(I'm not sure if Calamities and Thors can still hit them though...)
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Post by shivaswrath on Jan 12, 2020 19:06:29 GMT -5
You're playing it wrong.
Behemoth is amazing.
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Jan 12, 2020 20:04:46 GMT -5
The main weakness of the behemoth is that it requires team support. With team support, My zeus behemoth can melt most things in just a few hits. I can imagine the behemoth would be even more deadly with dragoons. As soon as I get my leech and the rest of my hanger sorted out imma build some goons then shoot some birds. (AJs)
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Post by biancabashbots on Jan 12, 2020 20:14:59 GMT -5
I'm a brawler but I like to throw in my mk2 flux fury every now and then. It's a pretty brutal bot on long maps with some protection. I thought I'd try the behemoth with my mk2 flux and maxed thermos, pilots etc . What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. Behemoth is nearly unusable. Sure, when you can hit someone it melts bots at a ludicrous rate but, you can't see anything on the battlefield while moving, the switch is cumbersome and slow, you can't track targets to cover and open the angle, its slow...and ugly. If anyone out there is a support player thinking a behemoth would be cool, don't waste your time. It's just plain aweful. If you are going to run a flux bot, use a fury. Until a bot is introduced that can move with 4 heavies, fury still rules. Behemoth is a true piece of junk. All transformer bots are junk with the current meta. Until princess power bots are eliminated, I wouldn’t waste any time on them at all, unless you don’t really care about winning. The tyr is making me think you may be wrong about them all being junk.
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Post by biancabashbots on Jan 12, 2020 20:59:34 GMT -5
. Those ancient tyrs ant pretty buff man. Having used it for a bit now, I can say it remorselessly kills ares. It also destroys non resistant units, eventually even some shielded bots. It can hold its own against singular leeches. And it’s incredibly weak against Ao Jun. It’s next to useless against falcons. Although it can defeat fenrir. If I had to say where this unit shines, it’s as a duelist. None of this matters because Ao Jun wreck it. It can’t take abeacon in the way a leech does. And it gets crushed as soon as it runs into a couple of anything of the above that gives it trouble. It’s **barely** usable. And I’m being generous with that Are you talking about the Tyr? If so I must seriously disagree with what you are saying in the negative about it. First and foremost about it being useless against ao juns. I run a hangar of brawler oldies because f2p just dictates policy. They are mostly mk2'd in the 1Au sale along with most of the gear used on them but when I caught the tyr all i had was some lvl 8 halos and some lvl 3 coronas to slap on it. Took it for a spin as a 1st bot at lvl 3 before I could even use a Quantum Radar mod and it immediately put a dent in the speedy bot problem I usually deal with coming out with heavies first- not to mention the immediate boost in my silver and gold intake per match. I realized I had the leg pilot for it, and the 5% resistant skin, so being impressed with its test run I lvl'd it to lvl 7 with coronas now at 6 and Quantum Radar. Guess what function it serves in my hangar? There's a running joke in my War Robots group- if you remember the old bugs bunny and elmer fudd cartoon where they do the opera? Elmer fudd singing 'kill the rabbit, kill the rabbit.." is what we start singing at a start of a match when the red team starts with a bunch of phantoms buzzing around- some blink with ac's going off then get slapped with lightning pants- the funniest part is they only ever covered a coupla hundred yards during their ability so when they blink back near home they look like a bunch of rabbits getting shot at by marines while they evaporate under blue team fire. Its a real hoot. Then what I like to call the twinkle toes- striders. Them too. Short work. All while waiting for Ao juns to take flight. I dont bother with trying to kill them. I just wait for them to get in that part of the flight where they like to flame up stuff like they always do before gliding back to cover. I like to Quantum Radar and start hitting them right then to make them land right in front of who they were shooting at. Right out in the open. I dont have to describe what happens then, do I? It is my first drop in 7 of 10 matches and my 3rd drop in 3 of 10 to run with titans. And it is a punisher on my team. It makes blue fenrirs, leeches and T-falcs an absolute horror for the red team among other things. Never mind giving Blue ao juns that extra burst of life to keep their hp bar well away from their last stands. I practice cycling the assault/support mode because that physical shield is surprisingly strong, and that burst of health when switching modes is crucial for any blue in the circle in a toe to toe battle to the kill. Bad luck for the red. Lol. I just can not wait to get him maxed. He alone is making me consider getting premium since the next level upgrades times are murder. So yeah, I could not disagree with you more. Edit: forgot to mention got sirgun support, and sharpshooter for both halo and coronas. Going to save gold for true ace and tyr physical shield skills.
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Post by biancabashbots on Jan 12, 2020 21:19:48 GMT -5
You're playing it wrong. Behemoth is amazing. please do tell (as in, I am intersted so could you please elaborate?)
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Post by linearblade on Jan 12, 2020 22:44:37 GMT -5
All transformer bots are junk with the current meta. Until princess power bots are eliminated, I wouldn’t waste any time on them at all, unless you don’t really care about winning. The tyr is making me think you may be wrong about them all being junk. Mileage may vary, however I run a maxed tyr due to the ancient tyr being somewhat invincible during the event. However, if it was not, I would not have maxed it. It’s currently in my hangar, but I consider it generally inferior to my lance, although it’s solid for early game. It doesn’t deal serious damage to hard targets however. It’s first on my chopping block.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Jan 12, 2020 22:47:29 GMT -5
Are the gun mounts at least high enough on the Behemoth to shoot over buildings while keeping yourself protected like they are on the Fury?
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