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Post by linearblade on Oct 4, 2019 8:48:11 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone knows of an effective counter play at the moment. List of threats (all other things being equal): • Jun Swooping in (same as with any other bot. If you get caught with your pants down than you are toast) • Ares working as a team. A lone Ares is Leech food. At best it has to go defensive. • Surprise from a non WS bot – enter the Phantom • Highly leveled T-Falcon with advance healer, road hog and anti suppression • At times it is worth shooting it if you think you can finish him off. It was designed to be OP so it sells. Also worth noting, the purple bubble is a deflection of incoming fire and not a defensive shield. The Pursuer humping the leg of this bot doesn’t work. The raijin is the most effective leech counter at the moment in the “tanking it” category at the moment. If it’s against a storm leech, you will probably die, unless you have last stand. But you will be guaranteed to trigger its own last stand. In short, neither walks away from it without a limp I have found no other bot to put up a better fight in the tank it category |
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Post by cav8r on Oct 4, 2019 8:55:10 GMT -5
Last days i MUST fight against full maxed Leech Storm and/or Corona with max Last Stand and so on. Last one have 4!!! of them in his/her hangar. Mine are normally MK1 10 some MK1 12. Lets say the Leech is MK1 too with MK1 12 Storm and/or Corona, any Strategy that i am not smoked in some seconds?  Added: The only Strategy i found till now is very expensive: Pilot skill ‚use another active modul after 50%‘, so you be able to use it twice and survive the first run. Then kill the Leech if his Last Stand already gone awayand he have not the same pilot skills and not in adition ‚use longer and faster the active modul‘ (2 pilot skills) and not be grouped with clan with boosters ... Well, all I can come up with so far is: Hide and Pray for the leech to pepto ray someone else. Wait for cool down, Peek out shoot till it goes PS Hide keep praying Wait for PS to run down, peek out and shoot till Last Stand Hide keep praying Wait for Last Stand to run down, don’t peek out yet cos it is about to go pepto ray again Hide keep praying Wait for cool down, peek out and shoot till PS again Hide keep praying Wait for PS to run down, now if prayers worked and game timer allows cos his teammates haven’t taken all beacons yet, peek out and finish it |
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Post by titando on Oct 4, 2019 9:35:00 GMT -5
Stand there perfectly still, behind a wall, in your DB Griffin (yes, I said DB Griffin).
Wait for the leech to be over, pop up, and blast him to hell. That's what happened to me last night. It was so funny and satisfying. I wish I had a video of it.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 4, 2019 10:35:20 GMT -5
Last days i MUST fight against full maxed Leech Storm and/or Corona with max Last Stand and so on. Last one have 4!!! of them in his/her hangar. Mine are normally MK1 10 some MK1 12. Lets say the Leech is MK1 too with MK1 12 Storm and/or Corona, any Strategy that i am not smoked in some seconds? Added: The only Strategy i found till now is very expensive: Pilot skill ‚use another active modul after 50%‘, so you be able to use it twice and survive the first run. Then kill the Leech if his Last Stand already gone awayand he have not the same pilot skills and not in adition ‚use longer and faster the active modul‘ (2 pilot skills) and not be grouped with clan with boosters ... if you have a falcon use viper on the front and exos in the back, let his ability pelt you while your corrosion goes completely through his resistance, his ability done but hes still not dead? Exos can fix that and the jump will prevent him from escaping |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 12:14:43 GMT -5
Up until last night, Leech hasn't appeared to be overly dominate...but that changed and my opinion of the leech has changed significantly. In back to back to back fights there were multiple MK2 leeches that racked up at least 14 kills per leech. It sucked 3 of my bots in 1 battle dry and there was nothing I could seem to do about it. But my question is...does PS break the connection? On another note...remember when Pix nerfed the spectre? Made it slow, reduced to stealth after jump, and extended the cool-down...part of the explaination by Pix was that it was too OP...and then they come out with Leech...But Pix is not stupid...well they are but they have a strategy and it works on a certain population of the War Robots community. At the same time, it appears that they have provided better resources through the operations and time reductions using ads...I think this is to help off set their other game design flaws. It is a continual do-loop of OP bots/wpns and deceptive reasoning by Pix that is old but predictable. The game isn't going away as has been predicted over the years...we just adapt...because the game mechanics are still pretty good. Well, this is a very good and concise synthesis of all the crap weâve been saying through millions of posts during the last 3 years...  The game would truly blow if there was no 「female dog」ing! |
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Post by Shockwave on Oct 4, 2019 13:46:43 GMT -5
Pray.
But seriously. Try to catch them off guard.
Something I like to do is splash them with Tulumbas/Pin or Trident while they are waiting for it's ability to recharge.
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Post by gonzoman on Oct 4, 2019 13:51:59 GMT -5
One by one? I just finished getting leeched by 3 leeches at once. My first leech squad spawn raid. Yay. All the opponents had multiple leeches in their hanger.
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Post by reckless1 on Oct 4, 2019 14:24:01 GMT -5
If you have a tank you can outlive it. I've come across them in my Raijin and lived to tell the tale. If he locks onto you, just go into Bastion mode and wait until his tether evaporates then hit 'em with double Avengers. You're health will be depleted but you'll be able to continue to waste Reds. I think I've lost less than half of my health just facing them down. I can't recall the weapon. Otherwise, hiding is a good strategy. Ha ha. What type of pilot sits there and lets you shoot him in your slow raijin when his ability ends? This strategy won't work against the 99% of leech pilots that AREN'T completely stupid. |
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Post by cav8r on Oct 4, 2019 15:25:59 GMT -5
Well, this is a very good and concise synthesis of all the crap weâ??ve been saying through millions of posts during the last 3 years... The game would truly blow if there was no ?female dog?ing! The 「female dog」ing would truly slow if there was no scamming! |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 4, 2019 15:30:07 GMT -5
Practice is the best strategy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 15:32:32 GMT -5
The game would truly blow if there was no ã??female dogã?Âing! The ?female dog?ing would truly slow if there was no scamming! Sorry, bro...but, wrong. If Pix wasnât a big pail of slimy dog 「dookie」, there would be plenty of other topics to 「female dog」 about. One example-Is shooting a Leech tethered to a teammate ok or not? Many have this sense of âhonorâ to not hurt a teammate, but then one lets Alien infest the entire human race, which means we lose..... Anyways, happy Hunting! |
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Post by cav8r on Oct 4, 2019 16:12:56 GMT -5
The ã??female dogã?Âing would truly slow if there was no scamming! Sorry, bro...but, wrong. If Pix wasnâ??t a big pail of slimy dog ?dookie?, there would be plenty of other topics to ?female dog? about. One example-Is shooting a Leech tethered to a teammate ok or not? Many have this sense of â??honorâ? to not hurt a teammate, but then one lets Alien infest the entire human race, which means we lose..... Anyways, happy Hunting! I agree with you that there would always be 「female dog」ing no matter what, thatâs why I used the word âslowâ and didnât use âstop or quitâ, however thereâs no question that the greatest proportion of the 「female dog」ing is of their own making with all the obscure practices we all know. As for honor and/or shooting the leech. I donât care, it is just a matter of effectiveness or efficiency to me. You hit the thing barely damaging it while helping destroy what could be the help you need in confronting the damn thing and winning the match...which means we lose.. |
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Post by cav8r on Oct 4, 2019 16:15:13 GMT -5
Stand there perfectly still, behind a wall, in your DB Griffin (yes, I said DB Griffin). Wait for the leech to be over, pop up, and blast him to hell. That's what happened to me last night. It was so funny and satisfying. I wish I had a video of it. Assuming it doesn’t have PS and Last Stand only |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 16:20:37 GMT -5
Stand there perfectly still, behind a wall, in your DB Griffin (yes, I said DB Griffin). Wait for the leech to be over, pop up, and blast him to hell. That's what happened to me last night. It was so funny and satisfying. I wish I had a video of it. Assuming it doesn’t have PS and Last Stand only Or the usual Dragon air support, Mender health support, and Blitz Suppression support.....but, yes... a DB Griffin could work |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Oct 4, 2019 16:23:31 GMT -5
Up until last night, Leech hasn't appeared to be overly dominate...but that changed and my opinion of the leech has changed significantly. In back to back to back fights there were multiple MK2 leeches that racked up at least 14 kills per leech. It sucked 3 of my bots in 1 battle dry and there was nothing I could seem to do about it. But my question is...does PS break the connection? On another note...remember when Pix nerfed the spectre? Made it slow, reduced to stealth after jump, and extended the cool-down...part of the explaination by Pix was that it was too OP...and then they come out with Leech...But Pix is not stupid...well they are but they have a strategy and it works on a certain population of the War Robots community. At the same time, it appears that they have provided better resources through the operations and time reductions using ads...I think this is to help off set their other game design flaws. It is a continual do-loop of OP bots/wpns and deceptive reasoning by Pix that is old but predictable. The game isn't going away as has been predicted over the years...we just adapt...because the game mechanics are still pretty good. it does not. You won't take damage tho. |
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Post by Zedd on Oct 4, 2019 18:59:17 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone knows of an effective counter play at the moment. List of threats (all other things being equal): • Jun Swooping in (same as with any other bot. If you get caught with your pants down than you are toast) • Ares working as a team. A lone Ares is Leech food. At best it has to go defensive. • Surprise from a non WS bot – enter the Phantom • Highly leveled T-Falcon with advance healer, road hog and anti suppression • At times it is worth shooting it if you think you can finish him off. It was designed to be OP so it sells. Also worth noting, the purple bubble is a deflection of incoming fire and not a defensive shield. The Pursuer humping the leg of this bot doesn’t work. The raijin is the most effective leech counter at the moment in the “tanking it” category at the moment. If it’s against a storm leech, you will probably die, unless you have last stand. But you will be guaranteed to trigger its own last stand. In short, neither walks away from it without a limp I have found no other bot to put up a better fight in the tank it category Raijin, Bulwark and falcon. Thats my new line up. |
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 4, 2019 23:48:31 GMT -5
My Bulwark could give a Leech a hard time with 2x Vipers and 3x Fortifiers. The Aegis can take a good beating from several bots. Bully also has Armor and Aegis shield pilot skills. Same deal with my T-Falcon only more so. I imagine a Mk2/12 Leech might kill it....eventually. T-Falc has a Calamity lvl 10 Mk1 at present.
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 5, 2019 2:27:33 GMT -5
Last days i MUST fight against full maxed Leech Storm and/or Corona with max Last Stand and so on. Last one have 4!!! of them in his/her hangar. Mine are normally MK1 10 some MK1 12. Lets say the Leech is MK1 too with MK1 12 Storm and/or Corona, any Strategy that i am not smoked in some seconds? Added: The only Strategy i found till now is very expensive: Pilot skill ‚use another active modul after 50%‘, so you be able to use it twice and survive the first run. Then kill the Leech if his Last Stand already gone awayand he have not the same pilot skills and not in adition ‚use longer and faster the active modul‘ (2 pilot skills) and not be grouped with clan with boosters ... if you have a falcon use viper on the front and exos in the back, let his ability pelt you while your corrosion goes completely through his resistance, his ability done but hes still not dead? Exos can fix that and the jump will prevent him from escaping This has promise. Sounds good on paper I guess? I'll have to try it out once Leech proliferate. |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 5, 2019 8:47:03 GMT -5
if you have a falcon use viper on the front and exos in the back, let his ability pelt you while your corrosion goes completely through his resistance, his ability done but hes still not dead? Exos can fix that and the jump will prevent him from escaping This has promise. Sounds good on paper I guess? I'll have to try it out once Leech proliferate. I use my falcon like this and it truly does work, and 2 out of the 5 leech that I have killed with this were at or near max level so it doesn't just work on paper, besides falcon is super fun to play like this! |
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Post by rasnov on Oct 5, 2019 10:52:19 GMT -5
Last days i MUST fight against full maxed Leech Storm and/or Corona with max Last Stand and so on. Last one have 4!!! of them in his/her hangar. Mine are normally MK1 10 some MK1 12. Lets say the Leech is MK1 too with MK1 12 Storm and/or Corona, any Strategy that i am not smoked in some seconds? Added: The only Strategy i found till now is very expensive: Pilot skill ‚use another active modul after 50%‘, so you be able to use it twice and survive the first run. Then kill the Leech if his Last Stand already gone awayand he have not the same pilot skills and not in adition ‚use longer and faster the active modul‘ (2 pilot skills) and not be grouped with clan with boosters ... if you have a falcon use viper on the front and exos in the back, let his ability pelt you while your corrosion goes completely through his resistance, his ability done but hes still not dead? Exos can fix that and the jump will prevent him from escaping Doesnt work with my TFalcon MK1 12 against Leech i must fight against, Leech have mostly MK2 12 and Weapons (Corona/Storm) MK2 12 too. Sure i am not the greatest pilot, but Leech is much to OP. Last time i played against some leveled Leeches, sometimes i won, sometimes the Leech. That was okay, but normally i run, as i said, against full maxed Leech, MK2 12 with Storm/Corona MK2 12 and max Modules and PS |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 5, 2019 13:14:08 GMT -5
if you have a falcon use viper on the front and exos in the back, let his ability pelt you while your corrosion goes completely through his resistance, his ability done but hes still not dead? Exos can fix that and the jump will prevent him from escaping Doesnt work with my TFalcon MK1 12 against Leech i must fight against, Leech have mostly MK2 12 and Weapons (Corona/Storm) MK2 12 too. Sure i am not the greatest pilot, but Leech is much to OP. Last time i played against some leveled Leeches, sometimes i won, sometimes the Leech. That was okay, but normally i run, as i said, against full maxed Leech, MK2 12 with Storm/Corona MK2 12 and max Modules and PS true but you use T falc who has nothing extra, he is simply a slowish shutze with stupid amounts of health while my falc is 2/3 as durable and can have 3times as much firepower+jump. So T falc needs a bit more umph too his firepower before he can kill something like a leech. |
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Post by rasnov on Oct 5, 2019 13:33:39 GMT -5
Doesnt work with my TFalcon MK1 12 against Leech i must fight against, Leech have mostly MK2 12 and Weapons (Corona/Storm) MK2 12 too. Sure i am not the greatest pilot, but Leech is much to OP. Last time i played against some leveled Leeches, sometimes i won, sometimes the Leech. That was okay, but normally i run, as i said, against full maxed Leech, MK2 12 with Storm/Corona MK2 12 and max Modules and PS true but you use T falc who has nothing extra, he is simply a slowish shutze with stupid amounts of health while my falc is 2/3 as durable and can have 3times as much firepower+jump. So T falc needs a bit more umph too his firepower before he can kill something like a leech. I am not the best Pilot as i always said, but its long time ago that i saw that a Falcon survives fangs out. FYI I use both, TFalcon on my main in Champions League and Falcon on my Baby account in Expert, only because its funny to see how surprise the reds are, all think all runs only TFalcon while i jump and hit hard (in Expert). |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 5, 2019 13:39:12 GMT -5
true but you use T falc who has nothing extra, he is simply a slowish shutze with stupid amounts of health while my falc is 2/3 as durable and can have 3times as much firepower+jump. So T falc needs a bit more umph too his firepower before he can kill something like a leech. I am not the best Pilot as i always said, but its long time ago that i saw that a Falcon survives fangs out. FYI I use both, TFalcon on my main in Champions League and Falcon on my Baby account in Expert, only because its funny to see how surprise the reds are, all think all runs only TFalcon while i jump and hit hard (in Expert). use the jump to go over their head, makes surviving the fangs easy, also make sure the situation meets these criteria: 1, no one within easy firing angles on you. 2, the enemy is out of ability and ammo 3, you have enough ammo to kill or seriously wound them 4, if you don't have 3 then you have a place to escape too |
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Post by non4me on Nov 11, 2019 21:07:19 GMT -5
I met my first leech storm. Bloody hell. He smoked the entire team. Dont know what hes feeding his bot. It was unkillable. All of a sudden Ares seem nice and fluffy Can someone confirm that suppression from invader, blitz, ryker has no effect on an active leech. |
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Post by reckless1 on Nov 11, 2019 21:27:49 GMT -5
If you have a tank you can outlive it. I've come across them in my Raijin and lived to tell the tale. If he locks onto you, just go into Bastion mode and wait until his tether evaporates then hit 'em with double Avengers. You're health will be depleted but you'll be able to continue to waste Reds. I think I've lost less than half of my health just facing them down. I can't recall the weapon. Otherwise, hiding is a good strategy. Ha ha. You can not outlast 4 mk2 coronas blasting you in the face. A raijin shield will be gone in no time. They can deliver 100k damage per SECOND. Your shield is gone in three seconds. How do you survive the next seven while still being sukked? |
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 11, 2019 22:16:43 GMT -5
Either hide and wait, then jump with a aphid vortex Raven.
Or if the Leech pilot is cheap count down 18s and attack.
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Post by go red on Nov 11, 2019 22:55:36 GMT -5
Teamwork?
Jun/Phantom/Falcom, teammate with homing and Lockdown Ammo.
When Leech latched on a blue, homing and Lockdown Ammo stop the leech so blue can escape. Blue return to hunt leech after the purple bubble is down. Repeat if leech has Last Stand
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Nov 11, 2019 23:58:45 GMT -5
If you have a tank you can outlive it. I've come across them in my Raijin and lived to tell the tale. If he locks onto you, just go into Bastion mode and wait until his tether evaporates then hit 'em with double Avengers. You're health will be depleted but you'll be able to continue to waste Reds. I think I've lost less than half of my health just facing them down. I can't recall the weapon. Otherwise, hiding is a good strategy. Ha ha. You can not outlast 4 mk2 coronas blasting you in the face. A raijin shield will be gone in no time. They can deliver 100k damage per SECOND. Your shield is gone in three seconds. How do you survive the next seven while still being sukked? I'm sure I haven't encountered a fully maxed Quad-Corona Leech, but in my experience blasting him with twin Avengers helped me survive with 1/4 health left a number of times and kill a couple more Reds to boot. |
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Post by aaronc on Nov 12, 2019 0:06:36 GMT -5
My Bulwark could give a Leech a hard time with 2x Vipers and 3x Fortifiers. The Aegis can take a good beating from several bots. Bully also has Armor and Aegis shield pilot skills. Same deal with my T-Falcon only more so. I imagine a Mk2/12 Leech might kill it....eventually. T-Falc has a Calamity lvl 10 Mk1 at present. Its been a month so I wonder if you have since reevaluated as I think you might be overestimating its ability? I'll admit my Bulwark is only level 9 with level 10 Vipers and 2 lvl 1 Fortifiers. It is not tough. Against those 4 medium shotguns,energy or kinetic, shield is gone instantly. I have physical shield, energy shield and crazy electrician all as high as they can go. If a mk2/12 Leech gets hold of me, and can shoot as well, I'm dead every time. I go with hide and pray!  |
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Post by pewpewninja on Nov 12, 2019 0:10:32 GMT -5
Well if isn't obvious....
1.DON'T shoot it especially if its leeching on you. Unless you're a t falcon.
2. This is key to winning this battle, DON'T die and take as less damage from it while its leeching and meanwhile getting ready to ambush that son of a !!!!!
Some do it by having 1 mil hp, some uses supression, some have really really fat shields, some are just really good at dancing poles. Some have 5 sec cooldown dash.
3. And zerg nuke rush that little b!!!!!! After its ability and phase shift ends. Obviously having some sort of a lockdown or freeze helps along with an anti control, or it will just lock you down and say see ya later (when i have my leech ready)
Its funny reading the comments above, it shows whois dumb and have no clue.
All good Leeches are scared and should be scared of a well geared mk2 t falcon, (normal falcons and fenrirs are not even close) If its a t falcon with last stand and anti control you should 100% win in a 1v1 against a leech unless youre ?slow? and have no idea how to dance and don't know that healing while a leech is attacking you means youre guaranteed to survive (yes it works againsts ajs and areses too at mk2 lvl 12 advanced repair heals 100k/sec and normal repair 50k/sec). A leech and a t falcon moves at exactly the same speed well falcon slightly slower, but a leech can't just outrun you easily. If the t falc is running glory or ember well even better.
Leeches don't really like blitzses, and phantoms, and actually ancient tyrs.
The deadliest of leeches are ones with storms, not coronas (becoz someone with a phat p.shield actually running maxed fortifiers and max pilot skills will block all your shots for a long time and kill you. Yes even at mk2)
Second deadliest of leeches are ones running igniters, why? At mk2 the highest full clip dmg weapon is an ember does 189 k, an igniter does 169 k... Yea it hurts x 4. And no shields
period.
Third are coronas well its the lockdown that kills you, the damage is not even close compared those two above, hence why anti control is actually good when leveled.
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