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Post by gonzoman on Aug 23, 2019 11:21:15 GMT -5
cookieDad you don't quite do justice to the shield vs the defense mode. The shield has infinite health because it recharges while the bot itself has double the normal health it says on the bot (50% damage means you have twice your normal health in effective hp) plus there is several different factors that also change the tables. You can have the legendary pilot with the recharge being faster (20%), then another normal pilot skill that increases the capacity by 20%. Then there are the modules, if you buy the fortifier then you should be fine to buy the Heavy Armor Kit so you need the increase of the health to be 12% per module. Then there are a number of pilot skills for health, they increase by a total percent of 17.5% meaning you can increase your health by a grand total of: ... (wait for it) ... 53.5%, that is quite a bit especially when you double it at the end because of the dmg resistance. Now the best way to go is to use the pilot skills for the shield AND the health since that is a total of 4 skills including the legendary pilot skill. Then you can add healing (mechanic preferably) and speed boosts or whatever it is that you want. It all depends on how you play fenrir though Agreed on your calculations, and your note that the Aegis shield has infinite health. All the pilot skill add-ons apply to whether you use the fortifier or the Armor Module. So that's why I left that out of the equation. Fortifier will only benefit the Fenrir when in Mobile Mode, being unable to use the heavy weapon and losing its DR. And an Aegis shield with only 62K at lvl 12, adding a few % will not make that much of an impact. I use the Mobile Mode just for the mobility... when rushing somewhere. But when attacked meanwhile, the Aegis shield will be depleted quickly anyhow, whether it is 62K or 68K. When brawling in the Defensive Mode, and with the 50% DR, that's when I need my armor, thus I want to max this using Armor Mods. Your experiences might have been different than mine, no reason to argue about it . But I tried both, and dropped the Fortifier after a few days. Luv it for the Bullwark and Lanc though! Thank you for this input! I switched my Fenrirs back to heavy armor. Must have made a difference because mine just held its own for a while on another ESPA spawn point raiding party against 3 JUNs at the same time (killed one injured another) and a 3 Ares train (took a hunk out of two of them). Amazed three flying Juns were able to spray it while I fought the Ares train, and it survived long enough to catch 2 JUNs on the ground.
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Post by lmc on Aug 24, 2019 0:18:33 GMT -5
I've been rolling a shotgun fen... With ecu
It's good laffs
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Post by Desc440 on Aug 24, 2019 6:51:13 GMT -5
I've changed my outlook on the Fenrir. Instead of being a dissapointing tank bot, I now see him as a satisfying "soldier" bot - by that I mean he's not great at any specific task, but can do them all decently: tougher than a support bot, deadlier than a tank bot, fast enough to get where it needs to go in a relatively timely manner without being fast enough to beat beacon runners in a foot race. He is a gap-filler, a generalist.
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Post by shivaswrath on Aug 24, 2019 11:29:40 GMT -5
I decided to build a Viper Scourge one...figured it was a good mix of energy bullets and charges with cooldowns that don't overlap. I don't want him to be naked when recharging the aegis.
I also saw stats on a Calamity...the Viper clobbers it at 350-400 meters. At any level. They need to buff the Calamity again to make it competitive.
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Post by gravediggers on Nov 24, 2020 21:35:53 GMT -5
Anybody like the cryptic Fenrir
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 25, 2020 5:05:39 GMT -5
Anybody like the cryptic Fenrir Seeing plenty of them about in Champions League. In regards to "my fenrir tips" Just keep rolling forward and pressing the heal button everytime it becomes available. Thats all you need to know running this bot with the Wollfe pilot.
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 26, 2020 9:51:22 GMT -5
Was there not a rule regarding necroposting?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 26, 2020 16:28:32 GMT -5
We could argue that this thread was relevant again since the bot had an update and new pilot added.
It's better for the environment to restart the old thread and not waste valuable resources on a new one.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 26, 2020 22:15:45 GMT -5
Or Bernadette and YOLO.
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Post by vonpaulus on Nov 27, 2020 1:50:22 GMT -5
Anybody like the cryptic Fenrir Seeing plenty of them about in Champions League. In regards to "my fenrir tips" Just keep rolling forward and pressing the heal button everytime it becomes available. Thats all you need to know running this bot with the Wollfe pilot. Oh no no no. There is something very important to do first. Load up a drone with as many D type chips as possible. Also get dodger and modukes expert pilot skills. Recurrent Crashing repairer (triggers on 100k damage in 3 seconds) Recurrent Intermittent repairer (triggers on 70k damage in 5 seconds) Recurrent reconstructive repairer (triggers on healing 40k+ in 5 seconds i,e an Advanced Repair and the RCR/RiR) Other chips you can add in A type: control resistor B type: Modulative/revitalizing intensifierintensifier (+ attack when you spam repair) With a T3 and a T2 RCR and a T2 RIR on a T2 drone plus Mechanic skill and Advanced Repair Unit I heal nearly 150% of my HP every 20 seconds providing the chips are triggered. As it is my 1.9 bot can stand in the open and take 2 full passes from a maxed 2.12 Hawk and still have about a quarter of its health remaining. With a purple or gold drone and more purple and gold chips you become the Highlander.
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Post by RightOn on Nov 27, 2020 4:10:30 GMT -5
We could argue that this thread was relevant again since the bot had an update and new pilot added. It's better for the environment to restart the old thread and not waste valuable resources on a new one. Fenrir is better for the enviornment Think about it.. it doesn't make a mess of things like the typical meta bot. It doesn't try to pull a 「wee-wee」 move or steal your wallet. It will go half and half but you gotta push when I say push. I also disagree this thing needs modules.. yeah it will last longer but it doesn't need cells to operate. I have 2 skills on my santa... 20% aegis capacity and invulnerable raider. That's 60% max DR... if you spawn early, even first, you can control center before Titans arrive. If I had the gold I would look at mechanic though, a very powerful skill for tanks. I'd say Fenrir is fairly open to discussion in terms of weaponry. Originally I was going to go semi- mid ranged (redeemer and pulsars). I would always prefer an auto reloader for Heavy slot though. I run Igniters with Glacier and that's my workhorse. Kills other tanks like Lance and Bulwark (I have a triple fort bully and 5 skill lance). This is the premier assault vehicle. I get a lot of looks from trashing leeches, juns, scorps. Kinda hard to not get attention when you're full of juice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 6:51:14 GMT -5
SO ive had both linda cano and the new bernadette leg pilots, and just won a cryptic fen. won a devastator. guessing its time to put them all together- I started with Berny since i think I like the idea of dmg resist over aegis? (Thinkin t-falc & dmg resist blitz) Anyways, always laughed at fatboy- never cared to run him. But winning all these bits seems a waste to not go scorp hunting with it since 'getting in close' isnt a problem with them lol. Reading all the tips to learn fen really late- so thanks for all the lessons
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Post by Poopface on Nov 30, 2020 7:23:31 GMT -5
SO ive had both linda cano and the new bernadette leg pilots, and just won a cryptic fen. won a devastator. guessing its time to put them all together- I started with Berny since i think I like the idea of dmg resist over aegis? (Thinkin t-falc & dmg resist blitz) Anyways, always laughed at fatboy- never cared to run him. But winning all these bits seems a waste to not go scorp hunting with it since 'getting in close' isnt a problem with them lol. Reading all the tips to learn fen really late- so thanks for all the lessons I'm in a similar boat.
I got the Operation Pass for this Operation so I got the Fenrir and pilot with the idea of using it in my FU hanger. I've been using this thread for some tips and tricks. Thanks to everyone who's posted.
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Post by wargear on Nov 30, 2020 9:16:26 GMT -5
Been rocking a Cryptic Fen with Bernie,the downside is its bigger size and slower speed.
Very east target for Hawks but it can survive a full Hawk blast to the face espiecally with Armor Expert and Tough Guy out.
It is very effective at smashing scorps and Ravana's. At mid range it racks up ridiculous amounts of dmg especially with drone dmg boosters. Or you can boost its healing and defense pts and make it endure insane punishment.
Prolly in the top 3 for beacon defenders, it can easily hold off multiple opponents to buy a team time to regroup at the beacon.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 30, 2020 10:28:22 GMT -5
Been rocking a Cryptic Fen with Bernie,the downside is its bigger size and slower speed. Very east target for Hawks but it can survive a full Hawk blast to the face espiecally with Armor Expert and Tough Guy out. It is very effective at smashing scorps and Ravana's. At mid range it racks up ridiculous amounts of dmg especially with drone dmg boosters. Or you can boost its healing and defense pts and make it endure insane punishment. Prolly in the top 3 for beacon defenders, it can easily hold off multiple opponents to buy a team time to regroup at the beacon. So, I'm a huge T-Falc fan but, sniff, I swapped her out for a FenDeer and the new Legendary Pilot, "WhatsHerName.". I have Ember/Scourges and I'm considering Lazerhose, or, full taser build like you. Your thoughts/opinions appreciated. Your full build recipe would help. Why FenDeer instead of Cryptic? Cuz it's uuuuuugly and an aesthetic FU. Maybe I can scare the reds into submission. Besides, looks great this time of year. :-)
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Post by wargear on Nov 30, 2020 11:07:55 GMT -5
Been rocking a Cryptic Fen with Bernie,the downside is its bigger size and slower speed. Very east target for Hawks but it can survive a full Hawk blast to the face espiecally with Armor Expert and Tough Guy out. It is very effective at smashing scorps and Ravana's. At mid range it racks up ridiculous amounts of dmg especially with drone dmg boosters. Or you can boost its healing and defense pts and make it endure insane punishment. Prolly in the top 3 for beacon defenders, it can easily hold off multiple opponents to buy a team time to regroup at the beacon. So, I'm a huge T-Falc fan but, sniff, I swapped her out for a FenDeer and the new Legendary Pilot, "WhatsHerName.". I have Ember/Scourges and I'm considering Lazerhose, or, full taser build like you. Your thoughts/opinions appreciated. Your full build recipe would help. Why FenDeer instead of Cryptic? Cuz it's uuuuuugly and an aesthetic FU. Maybe I can scare the reds into submission. Besides, looks great this time of year. :-) Just running full tazar mainly for range, if a scorp ports in they get the full 137% dmg boost but it can still deal dmg at mid. I have the eye drone with a golden cannon shooter and built in minigun It boosts the dmg everytime I use my repair unit and has freezer. I have dodger to allow me to repair unit every 15 secs, Tough Guy, Armor Expert, Mechanic, and working on Road Hog. Rocking overdrive, anti-control and an armor module.
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Post by santaclaus on Dec 2, 2020 23:34:05 GMT -5
So, I'm a huge T-Falc fan but, sniff, I swapped her out for a FenDeer and the new Legendary Pilot, "WhatsHerName.". I have Ember/Scourges and I'm considering Lazerhose, or, full taser build like you. Your thoughts/opinions appreciated. Your full build recipe would help. Why FenDeer instead of Cryptic? Cuz it's uuuuuugly and an aesthetic FU. Maybe I can scare the reds into submission. Besides, looks great this time of year. :-) Just running full tazar mainly for range, if a scorp ports in they get the full 137% dmg boost but it can still deal dmg at mid. I have the eye drone with a golden cannon shooter and built in minigun It boosts the dmg everytime I use my repair unit and has freezer. I have dodger to allow me to repair unit every 15 secs, Tough Guy, Armor Expert, Mechanic, and working on Road Hog. Rocking overdrive, anti-control and an armor module. Do you think the Eye is Cute?!
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Post by slugpug on Dec 3, 2020 0:35:36 GMT -5
Due to several severe recent beat downs from maxed Wub Guns I’ve decided to move on to a mid ranged build for my Fen. Even with 435k you’ll just melt against those things sadly. All you need is a couple tier2 chips and a pair of Pulsars to achieve full effect in 1/3 clip and the Mk2 maxed Nulceon takes care of the rest.
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Post by raidenii on Dec 3, 2020 12:46:02 GMT -5
What is the difference between the normal Fenrir and the Cryptic Fenrir? I have both. Don't know which Fenrir should I upgrade. I just got the Nicolas Wodasan pilot.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 3, 2020 13:09:48 GMT -5
What is the difference between the normal Fenrir and the Cryptic Fenrir? I have both. Don't know which Fenrir should I upgrade. 10% more health points for all special edition bots like the "Cryptic" Fenrir or "Stellar" Phantom.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 15:37:41 GMT -5
New question. (Thanks in advance)
I am a little confused about using cryptic fenrir with the resist/no aegis leg pilot.
The time when the bot is at his strongest is when he is using all guns, right?
Or does the extra dmg resist from the pilot activate in place of the aegis (in assault mode when the heavy weap would be deactivated)?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 3, 2020 20:41:34 GMT -5
New question. (Thanks in advance) I am a little confused about using cryptic fenrir with the resist/no aegis leg pilot. The time when the bot is at his strongest is when he is using all guns, right? Or does the extra dmg resist from the pilot activate in place of the aegis (in assault mode when the heavy weap would be deactivated)? I believe the damage resistance only kicks in during the all guns in use mode.
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