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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 14:04:06 GMT -5
Gareth Challenge Rules: 1) You may ONLY use 1 Gareth in a battle 2) All other bots MUST be ditched at the start of the battle before dropping Gareth 3) You MUST try your best to win every battle 4) Gareth MUST survive to the end of the match 5) Blue team MUST win the match 6) Gareth MUST take top damage and top beacons medals The Forum Member with the highest League Score while completing the Gareth Challenge will be proclaimed King of all Garys!!! Challenge Ends April 1st. *edit* You must post a screenshot of your current League Score immediately after the match completing the Challenge along with operating system.Good luck, and Godspeed!
ANDROID LEADERBOARD
1st - blastronaut - Map: Shenzen - League Points: 1759
2nd - blastronaut - Map: Power Plant - League Points: 1254
3rd - blastronaut - Map: Canyon - League Points: 1009
4th -iOS LEADERBOARD1st - mijapi300 - Map: Power Plant - League Points: 942*
2nd - mijapi300 - Map: Unknown - League Points: 929*
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Honarable Mention - petevb - Map: Powerplant - League Points: 5666**
 *Did not eject from bots beforehand or win the beacons medal but tied for 1st in beacons captured
**Scored 550k damage in Champion league with 1 Gary, Second in damage & Second on beacons. Superbly done! |
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Post by Feezou on Mar 7, 2017 14:06:29 GMT -5
I dare someone to try it with a twin Molot and a Noricum
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 14:52:53 GMT -5
That's inherently difficult. It'll take you 20-30 seconds to drop and ditch all your other bots in the beginning. Why not just drop the Gary to start and not use any other bots if you die?
Also, your scoring system doesn't work, because the league score includes games that Gary died in, as well as all the games you've ever played.
Only way to truly measure it is on a single game performance, and assign point values for damage, kills, and captures. Even then, there's no way to ensure honesty among a community that's inherently dishonest at its very core.
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Post by critter667 on Mar 7, 2017 14:58:17 GMT -5
so... Are challenges like this considered deranking? I really doubt many will stay the same rank of using only a Gary.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 7, 2017 15:29:51 GMT -5
Even then, there's no way to ensure honesty among a community that's inherently dishonest at its very core. Wow, you are a cynic's cynic, sir. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 15:31:59 GMT -5
Even then, there's no way to ensure honesty among a community that's inherently dishonest at its very core. Wow, you are a cynic's cynic, sir. Do you believe that in an online gaming community, everyone is going to play fairly? Have we forgotten about the never-ending threads complaining about seal-clubbing and tanking? Gamers inherently do whatever it takes to "win". I didn't mean it as a shot to the forum community specifically. Just online gaming in general. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 7, 2017 15:37:34 GMT -5
mijapi300 I like to think that the overwhelming majority of people live their life in a reasonably upright manner. Granted it doesn't take too many bad eggs to get noticed, but most people likely don't care enough about taking or clubbing to dedicate their pursuit to it.
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Chaoscore
Destrier
Posts: 42
Karma: 10
Pilot name: Chaoscore
Platform: Android
Clan: L2
Favorite robot: Carnage
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Post by Chaoscore on Mar 7, 2017 15:49:00 GMT -5
videos would be fun to watch and serve as proof
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Post by RightOn on Mar 7, 2017 16:05:31 GMT -5
Ditching your other bots is really stupid and pointlessly tanking games for others
BUT you could just spawn Gary to begin with and play it to the end, still getting credit for this challenge IMO
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 16:09:10 GMT -5
Dredd77 I'm not saying these people are scumbags in real life. I'm talking specifically about gaming, and this challenge's reliance on honesty to measure results. If gamers weren't inherently dishonest (when it comes to their games specifically), it wouldn't be such a burden on developers to deter exploits and maintain balance. People that play online gaming like to win. Non-competitive people generally don't get very involved in a video game. And in video games, there isn't really anyone there to judge, so inhibition goes out the window for a lot people that are, otherwise, completely decent human beings.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 16:11:30 GMT -5
Ditching your other bots is really stupid and pointlessly tanking games for others BUT you could just spawn Gary to begin with and play it to the end, still getting credit for this challenge IMO That was my initial thought. Even following that rule, you a generally going to be tanking the game for others. It takes very ineffective strategy to make a Gareth last an entire game in higher tiers. And the fact that you essentially are supposed to tank the rest of the game if your Gary dies.. Don't get me wrong, I love the premise. But I think it would be better for others if the challenge consisted of full Gareth hangars. That way you aren't just dropping one bot and then quitting basically. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 7, 2017 16:12:25 GMT -5
Ditching your other bots is really stupid and pointlessly tanking games for others BUT you could just spawn Gary to begin with and play it to the end, still getting credit for this challenge IMO This... |
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Mar 7, 2017 16:17:19 GMT -5
Even then, there's no way to ensure honesty among a community that's inherently dishonest at its very core. Wow, you are a cynic's cynic, sir. Everyone's entitled to their opinions Dredd77, he could be basing his opinion on his experiences |
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 7, 2017 16:21:15 GMT -5
Wow, you are a cynic's cynic, sir. Everyone's entitled to their opinions Dredd77 , he could be basing his opinion on his experiences Sure! But if we didn't have the ability to comment on one another's opinions, well, we wouldn't have a forum now, would we.  |
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CLU 1.1
Destrier
Posts: 61
Karma: 21
Pilot name: CLU 1.1
Platform: Android
Clan: Big Bots Club²
Server Region: North America
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Post by CLU 1.1 on Mar 7, 2017 16:37:41 GMT -5
Gareth Challenge Rules: 1) You may ONLY use 1 Gareth in a battle 2) All other bots MUST be ditched at the start of the battle before dropping Gareth 3) You MUST try your best to win every battle 4) Gareth MUST survive to the end of the match 5) Blue team MUST win the match 6) Gareth MUST take top damage and top beacons medals The Forum Member with the highest League Score while completing the Gareth Challenge will be proclaimed king of all Garys!!! Challenge Ends April 1st. Good luck, and Godspeed! Good luck with this. Not gonna happen in my league (low silver, high bronze). With the level of bots and weapons (not to mention tankers), you are, first of all, crippling your team with number 2), making numbers 5) and 6) almost impossible to get (not to mention the likelihood of number 4) being almost zero, with only one bot). If you want to lose rank and tank, it's an interesting challenge, but one more suited for test server than live, IMO. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 7, 2017 17:03:20 GMT -5
Ditching one disguises under a challenge...Hmmm crafty this one is. The force this is not, only darkness..  |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 17:40:43 GMT -5
To refute all you naysayers mijapi300 , I have nearly accomplished the Gareth challenge 3 times already today. Yes it is difficult, but anything worth doing IS difficult. The honor code is in place for this challenge, which is appropriate here because Gareth pilots are the most honorable of all War Robots players. Here is a screenshot of my latest near-miss on Yamantau.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 17:42:43 GMT -5
You didn't take the top beacon medal.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 17:44:31 GMT -5
You didn't take the top beacon medal. I said near-miss |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 17:44:59 GMT -5
To refute all you naysayers mijapi300 , I have nearly accomplished the Gareth challenge 3 times already today. Yes it is difficult, but anything worth doing IS difficult. The honor code is in place for this challenge, which is appropriate here because Gareth pilots are the most honorable of all War Robots players. Here is a screenshot of my latest near-miss on Yamantau. I didn't say it was impossible. It's entirely possible. I'm just saying the core of your challenge depends on honest submissions. And measuring on league rank doesn't make sense. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 17:48:31 GMT -5
mijapi300 league rank makes the most sense because it is a measure of your competition while completing the challenge. For example; if you are in Bronze III it would be much easier to complete the challenge than in Gold III. Please stop questioning the Rules. They were specifically and carefully selected to ensure a fair competition. Good Luck!
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 17:56:50 GMT -5
mijapi300 league rank makes the most sense because it is a measure of your competition while completing the challenge. For example; if you are in Bronze III it would be much easier to complete the challenge than in Gold III. Please stop questioning the Rules. They were specifically and carefully selected to ensure a fair competition. Good Luck! I'm in Diamond II. I play one single game, using only a Gary, and meet the criteria. I then don't play another game until April 1. Those that played more games than I dropped leagues because it's hard to win playing that way. I won, following the rules you chose. |
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on Mar 7, 2017 18:11:24 GMT -5
mijapi300 league rank makes the most sense because it is a measure of your competition while completing the challenge. For example; if you are in Bronze III it would be much easier to complete the challenge than in Gold III. Please stop questioning the Rules. They were specifically and carefully selected to ensure a fair competition. Good Luck! This, and the fact that you have to win the match to qualify, is exactly why this challenge does NOT encourage tanking. The biggest discrepancy is the difference between Android and iOS league placement. I might buy a Gary just to try this. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 18:26:53 GMT -5
FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR good point, there will be one King of all Garys crowned for both Android and iOS platforms.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 18:29:59 GMT -5
mijapi300 league rank makes the most sense because it is a measure of your competition while completing the challenge. For example; if you are in Bronze III it would be much easier to complete the challenge than in Gold III. Please stop questioning the Rules. They were specifically and carefully selected to ensure a fair competition. Good Luck! I'm in Diamond II. I play one single game, using only a Gary, and meet the criteria. I then don't play another game until April 1. Those that played more games than I dropped leagues because it's hard to win playing that way. I won, following the rules you chose. If you can complete the Challenge in Diamond II, and nobody completes it with a higher league score than you, than you will be the rightful King! Players need to post their League score immediately following completion of the challenge. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 7, 2017 18:32:42 GMT -5
I'm in Diamond II. I play one single game, using only a Gary, and meet the criteria. I then don't play another game until April 1. Those that played more games than I dropped leagues because it's hard to win playing that way. I won, following the rules you chose. If you can complete the Challenge in Diamond II, and nobody completes it with a higher league score than you, than you will be the rightful King! Players need to post their League score immediately following completion of the challenge. So it's not League rank as of April 1st. It's the highest league rank as of the time you complete the challenge. That's where the confusion was, that part didn't seem clear. I was thinking it just meant whoever had the highest overall league rank on April 1st that "participated" in your challenge. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 19:17:33 GMT -5
mijapi300 Sorry for the confusion. I'll edit the original post to make things more clear.
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Post by petevb on Mar 7, 2017 19:39:09 GMT -5
This challenge is going to ruin a whole lot of games as it's written. Starting a high tier match 4 bots (nearly a full man) down is virtually going to guarantee a loss, and it'll take ruining a ton of teammate's games to fulfill the conditions outlined above.
That's not something I can be part of or support. If the conditions were changed so that the Gareth was run first with the other bots in reserve I might give it a shot. Even if it is a borderline futile exercise in Champions...
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 22:27:06 GMT -5
I DID IT! Completed the Gareth Challenge on Android. Map: Canyon League Points: 1009 The bar has been set. Try and top it!   |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 7, 2017 23:02:30 GMT -5
This challenge is going to ruin a whole lot of games as it's written. Starting a high tier match 4 bots (nearly a full man) down is virtually going to guarantee a loss, and it'll take ruining a ton of teammate's games to fulfill the conditions outlined above. That's not something I can be part of or support. If the conditions were changed so that the Gareth was run first with the other bots in reserve I might give it a shot. Even if it is a borderline futile exercise in Champions... You'd be surprised how long Gary can last when you are playing to survive (and win). I don't feel like any of my games were ruined. It goes against the spirit of the Challenge itself, but if you are able to complete the Challenge without ditching your other bots I'll give you an honorable mention on the leaderboard. This is supposed to be fun (and it was lots of fun for me). I encourage you to give it a try. |
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