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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 4:55:52 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now.....
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 5:01:32 GMT -5
This one is funny... a lancelot with a thunder/orkans, thunder tarans... plasma Galahad (with use of rough cover for cornershooting), uhhh yeah.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 5:09:59 GMT -5
i think its possible beat lancelont 1 on 1 if not use acile...for example grifin with orkans..but who can beat lancelot with acile..i dont think fury can beat it...if fure use energy weapon..lancelot with his natural sheild, will take care of it...
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Mar 4, 2017 5:12:47 GMT -5
The way to beat an ancilot, though long and hard, is to.......,,
Use a bot that is faster than 20 km/h, preferably with plasma or a thunder. As for furies, use cover to get nice and close, then wreak havoc on the thing. Try and sneak up behind it, wait till it empty sits salvo on someone else. I find a thunder carny works well. Zeuses also tear through furies.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 5:23:26 GMT -5
wow..that sound complicate plan..but look what lancelot and his ancile do..just go forward and..BOmm....bomm....bommm....and they fall down 1 by 1...sound so unbalance
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Mar 4, 2017 5:27:05 GMT -5
wow..that sound complicate plan..but look what lancelot and his ancile do..just go forward and..BOmm....bomm....bommm....and they fall down 1 by 1...sound so unbalance Complicated? You circle it in pretty much any decently fast bot and shoot, ancelots of only really good against mid range, knifers shred the ?total babes EDIT: Total babes? Seriously mods XD
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Post by frunobulax on Mar 4, 2017 5:43:04 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now..... Any robot with a Thunder and rockets, say a Pinata Leo. Use Thunder to take down the Ancile, then Pinatas. Ancilot doesn't have a lot of firepower, only 2 medium weapons.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 5:48:48 GMT -5
EDIT: Total babes? Seriously mods XD the mods had fun making the filters
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 5:50:51 GMT -5
u have nice taste bro...u know..ive been do it..leo with thunder and pin..but not always working...or maybe coz my pin still in lv 5...
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 5:56:55 GMT -5
u have nice taste bro...u know..ive been do it..leo with thunder and pin..but not always working...or maybe coz my pin still in lv 5... are you having problems with orkan or taran ancilots?
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 6:04:22 GMT -5
u have nice taste bro...u know..ive been do it..leo with thunder and pin..but not always working...or maybe coz my pin still in lv 5... are you having problems with orkan or taran ancilots? yes...his taran will eat my so quick when my pin in loading after first attack..even my tunder work to take care his acile
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 4, 2017 6:42:58 GMT -5
Thunder Piñata Leo's, although they're weak, with enough corner and ambush skills can singlehandly take down Ancilots.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 4, 2017 6:44:20 GMT -5
And tbh I've taken down a few ancilots with a Taran Cossack. Not on my own, of course.
Come to think of it, a midranger took down the shield first.
Actually I just dealt the killing blow, it wasn't much.
But hey I defeated an Ancilot.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 4, 2017 8:11:46 GMT -5
Anything with a lot of plasma, or anything fast that can do a very large amount of damage quickly.
A plasma bot just uses cover and shoots the Ancilot. Then keeps shooting him. Then shoots him a bunch more. Eventually one segment of the physical shield will break, and health will drain away.
The fast bot that does huge damage fast (like a DB, or Thunder Carnage) gets inside the shield, and does the huge damage, fast.
That's how you defeat it 1 on 1. Usually easier to just have a couple of people shoot it.
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Post by drjackal on Mar 4, 2017 8:57:05 GMT -5
I think that any Ancilot or Lancelot attracts a lot of fire and dies pretty fast normally.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Mar 4, 2017 9:03:47 GMT -5
I think that any Ancilot or Lancelot attracts a lot of fire and dies pretty fast normally. This. A good thunder carnage does it well also. Try playong a lance, its not as impressive as you might think. Still a good build of course, but not OP
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 4, 2017 9:09:03 GMT -5
And tbh I've taken down a few ancilots with a Taran Cossack. Not on my own, of course. Come to think of it, a midranger took down the shield first. Actually I just dealt the killing blow, it wasn't much. But hey I defeated an Ancilot. It's funny but in a 1 on 1 fight an Ancilot is nearly helpless against a decently piloted plasma Galahad. It takes time for the Galahad to do the job and a 1 on 1 fight might not stay 1 on 1 that long. Plus the Ancilot has other advantages, other reasons for using it. It's not a dueling bot.
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Post by carnage on Mar 4, 2017 9:29:12 GMT -5
Well not surprising, Galahad is easily on par with a Lancelot. Arguably better if camping beacons is an important criteria.
In the games I play, Gareths and Galahads are most of the time a much bigger factor than a Lancelot. It's a bit odd, doesn't really make sense but it is what it is.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Mar 4, 2017 10:04:48 GMT -5
And tbh I've taken down a few ancilots with a Taran Cossack. Not on my own, of course. Come to think of it, a midranger took down the shield first. Actually I just dealt the killing blow, it wasn't much. But hey I defeated an Ancilot. It's funny but in a 1 on 1 fight an Ancilot is nearly helpless against a decently piloted plasma Galahad. It takes time for the Galahad to do the job and a 1 on 1 fight might not stay 1 on 1 that long. Plus the Ancilot has other advantages, other reasons for using it. It's not a dueling bot. I agree - I don't think I've lost a 1-vs-1 versus a Taran-Ancil Lancelo when I'm in my Plasmahad. Against an Orkan/Ancil Lancelot its harder as the more experienced Ancilot pilots will use Rush to disengage and move towards other red bots rather than allow you to take free shoots at them at over 300m (and cover is usually 5-10 seconds away on any map at 50KPM). By now even non-squad randoms know their job when they see an Ancilot on their team ---- simply follow them and shoot anything that can gets near enough. That's why Ancilots really work, it's a no-brained to follow them, so getting in a 1-vs-1 isn't the natural state for this herd animal.
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Post by RightOn on Mar 4, 2017 10:39:37 GMT -5
Thunder Orkan Lancelot should take it down easily enough, but The Ancile Taran might break a shield part and inflict some damage. Thunders bring Ancile's down quickly and twin Orkans could finish it after a reload.
Ancile Magnum Leo can kill them too. The neverending plasma burns up a shield, by the time he starts to reload his Tarans, the Leo's Magnums are tearing into Lancelot's flesh. Leo can cornershort fairly effectively too.
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Post by LOLDONGS on Mar 4, 2017 10:49:14 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now..... To answer your question, literally any robot with depending on how patient the pilot is.
An impatient pilot will get his ?poo-poo? wrecked faster than you can say "blueberry pie." if the pilot goes on to charge against an ancilot head on head.
The key to defeating an Ancilot depends on what his medium hardpoints are.
Orkan:Can be easily defeated if you have a bot faster than 45KMH and equipped with plasma weaponry. Just agro the chubby bot and run backwards to escape their missiles. After missiles run out. Move in close, soldier! Try to get to 20-30 meters from the Lancelot and then go to the left (it's harder for most pilots to aim to their right than their left due to touchpad controls).
At this point, make sure you are INSIDE the shield and FIRING your weapons.
Remember Lancelot's tower turn speed is pretty slow, most >45KMH bots can run faster than the Lancelot can turn. Keep on running to the left and you will quickly see the enemy Lancelot get enraged since he only has Orkans that has been depleted.
Plasma: You will most likely need another teammate to assist you if you don't have any missile weapons. There isn't much strategy to do with defeating a plasma ancilot. It's not a really dangerous set up to go against.
Make sure you get behind the plasma ancilot and make sure you are positioned so your teammate is directly behind the Lancelot too.
X 0 X ^-- You ^--Lancelot ^--Teammate
At that point, DO NOT STOP FIRING, SOLDIER!
Another thing to consider. If the Lancelot is equipped with an ECC Thunder instead of Ancile. That is when you should run the ?firetruck? away from the Lancelot. ECC Thunder is much worse than an energy shield.
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Post by sonofsam on Mar 4, 2017 10:49:44 GMT -5
In theory if both were level 12 and it was 1 on 1. You could just park a plasmahad directly in front of him and win.
A plasma Lanicle does 128k every 15 seconds and a Galahad has 319k health including the shield so it would take about 37 seconds for the Lance to kill the Galahad.
A Lanicle has 3 shields but by parking directly in front of him you will only have to break one. A Lance only has 272k health if you only count one shied. A plasmahad deals 118k damage every 15 seconds so it burn a Lanicle up in 34 seconds.
Like I said this is theory and neither guy could get help, but on paper a Plasmahad could park right in front of a Lanicle and limp away after the Lance dies.
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Post by ewing411 on Mar 4, 2017 12:47:12 GMT -5
Actually my Taran Fujin has done well against a number of Ancillots. Especially when the pilot mindlessly goes towards me with Orks on an open map. 3x level 9 Tarans and disiciplined crotch fire can take out the cod-piece shield pretty fast.
Can't definitely claim I have done the damage solo since those things draw agro like free tacos.
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Mar 4, 2017 13:28:50 GMT -5
try with lv 12 molots from 700m, they eat all ancile cover and hit directly bot fisical shield, sometimes directly health points
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 18:02:16 GMT -5
many player give nice theory and some idea to beat lancelot with ancile.. 1. Leo with thunder and pinata (ok..ive been try it..somtime work somtimes not..or mybe coz my pinata just lv 5. 2. Carnage with huge damage (well i dont know..i think lancelots taran will eat him first ) 3. Fast boot more than 45km (that mean light bot..this teory need skill full of pilot i think..coz light bot have little health..) 4. galahad ( i like his teory..and maybe its really possible..any body been try it?) 5. Ancile with leo magnum (oh...i dont know..its sound heavy to beat lancelot ) 6. taran fuji (well the proble will come if lancelot use his taran) leo with thunder and pinata the most cheap choice and easy to reach for player who want anticipation lancelot with his ancile...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 18:04:57 GMT -5
You must bait the Ancile Lancelot to point blank range.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 18:09:34 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now..... To answer your question, literally any robot with depending on how patient the pilot is.
An impatient pilot will get his ?poo-poo? wrecked faster than you can say "blueberry pie." if the pilot goes on to charge against an ancilot head on head.
The key to defeating an Ancilot depends on what his medium hardpoints are.
Orkan:Can be easily defeated if you have a bot faster than 45KMH and equipped with plasma weaponry. Just agro the chubby bot and run backwards to escape their missiles. After missiles run out. Move in close, soldier! Try to get to 20-30 meters from the Lancelot and then go to the left (it's harder for most pilots to aim to their right than their left due to touchpad controls).
At this point, make sure you are INSIDE the shield and FIRING your weapons.
Remember Lancelot's tower turn speed is pretty slow, most >45KMH bots can run faster than the Lancelot can turn. Keep on running to the left and you will quickly see the enemy Lancelot get enraged since he only has Orkans that has been depleted.
Plasma: You will most likely need another teammate to assist you if you don't have any missile weapons. There isn't much strategy to do with defeating a plasma ancilot. It's not a really dangerous set up to go against.
Make sure you get behind the plasma ancilot and make sure you are positioned so your teammate is directly behind the Lancelot too.
X 0 X ^-- You ^--Lancelot ^--Teammate
At that point, DO NOT STOP FIRING, SOLDIER!
Another thing to consider. If the Lancelot is equipped with an ECC Thunder instead of Ancile. That is when you should run the ?firetruck? away from the Lancelot. ECC Thunder is much worse than an energy shield.
i like ur strategy..look like ur strategic player type...maybe somtimes we can play togather...
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Post by redpoint5 on Mar 4, 2017 18:15:41 GMT -5
The bots that kill my Ancilot the most are Orkan/Pinata Griffins, and other Lancelots. I kill more Ancilots with an Orkan/Pinata Griffin, and sometimes a Rhino with Orkans. Usually best to take the shield down with half your salvo, find cover while it reloads, and then go in a second time for the kill. Galahads never kill my Ancilot because I won't play the hide and seek game with them.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 4, 2017 18:17:36 GMT -5
There are 5 other members on your team. Coordinate with them.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 4, 2017 18:35:26 GMT -5
There are 5 other members on your team. Coordinate with them. u understand that somtimes situation enforce us to duel 1 on 1 agains bot..
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