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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 4, 2017 18:39:13 GMT -5
I think that any Ancilot or Lancelot attracts a lot of fire and dies pretty fast normally. That's been my experience. Lances pull red aggro like nothing else.
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Post by greyhawk on Mar 4, 2017 19:05:56 GMT -5
In my experience it is not so hard to take down , i drive a thunder/pinata Leo,so i'm faster than lance,i see him from distance then just ambush him-take down shield with thunder-fire pinata-back to cover or turn around him-repeat untill down, i've managed to this thing a couple of times in any other case it was never a one vs one
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Post by ashanbhatoa on Mar 4, 2017 19:06:52 GMT -5
Yeah
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Post by Sybill on Mar 4, 2017 19:09:50 GMT -5
>> who can defead lancelot with ancile?
i can.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 4, 2017 20:04:34 GMT -5
There are 5 other members on your team. Coordinate with them. u understand that somtimes situation enforce us to duel 1 on 1 agains bot.. Not for a second. That's called battlefield awareness. Practice it. A lot. It will save your life.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 4, 2017 20:09:38 GMT -5
u understand that somtimes situation enforce us to duel 1 on 1 agains bot.. Not for a second. That's called battlefield awareness. Practice it. A lot. It will save your life. and when your teammates all go down? Run for your life? That's not what the purpose of this thread is. The thread is asking what bot can defeat an ancilot, not how to defeat an ancilot.
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Post by iKily on Mar 4, 2017 20:28:11 GMT -5
My Orkan/Thunder Lancelot works well; just take down the shield with the Thunder (from 500m range), then close in and punish it with the Orkan.
Lancelot is too huge to miss.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 5, 2017 8:07:37 GMT -5
Not for a second. That's called battlefield awareness. Practice it. A lot. It will save your life. and when your teammates all go down? Run for your life? That's not what the purpose of this thread is. The thread is asking what bot can defeat an ancilot, not how to defeat an ancilot. If your teammates all go down then the point is moot.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 5, 2017 8:14:24 GMT -5
and when your teammates all go down? Run for your life? That's not what the purpose of this thread is. The thread is asking what bot can defeat an ancilot, not how to defeat an ancilot. If your teammates all go down then the point is moot. True
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Post by haumiblau on Mar 5, 2017 8:48:11 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now..... That question can only be from a fury trident camper pilot!!! For me the lance/ancile combo is the only competitive answer to face the trident campers. I have a lance with ancile but when i face orcans the lance is down very fast
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 9:08:36 GMT -5
and when your teammates all go down? Run for your life? That's not what the purpose of this thread is. The thread is asking what bot can defeat an ancilot, not how to defeat an ancilot. If your teammates all go down then the point is moot. Endgame in a very close match, where both teams are nearly meched out. Hero if you pull it out, heartbroken if you blow it. So now, what do you do?
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Post by Giant's Toe on Mar 5, 2017 9:51:10 GMT -5
An ambush by a leo 1v1. A thunder pinata leo can just walk right up to it, inside the shield and blow it all to hell. Thats what i would do. But im in diamond 3, maybe i face mediocre lance pilots.
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Post by Giant's Toe on Mar 5, 2017 9:56:46 GMT -5
I know, a boa. Walk right into it shield and all and unload a thunder/orkan in its face. I mean literally walk right on top of it. Or circle around it with boa's speed and unload on it. Note: it has to be an ambush but still 1v1
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Post by Vectivus on Mar 5, 2017 10:03:20 GMT -5
Well not surprising, Galahad is easily on par with a Lancelot. Arguably better if camping beacons is an important criteria. In the games I play, Gareths and Galahads are most of the time a much bigger factor than a Lancelot. It's a bit odd, doesn't really make sense but it is what it is. I've seen it swing both ways. A decently-supported Lancelot is a nightmare, but one that just charges into the hornet's nest thinking he or she is going to be invincible is in for a rude awakening. As for a Lancelot / Ancile combo taken one-on-one, my plasma Galahad does best, especially given corners to peek around.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 5, 2017 10:10:22 GMT -5
If your teammates all go down then the point is moot. Endgame in a very close match, where both teams are nearly meched out. Hero if you pull it out, heartbroken if you blow it. So now, what do you do? If I could explain what I'd do I would ?, but for people that already know what to do, it's a combination of a lot of things that are actually pretty difficult to edify clearly. Me? I'd kill the thing and be done with it. Someone else? Don't get into that position to begin with ?. Tag team it and be more aware of your surroundings. Best I've got besides the corner shoot and pray.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 11:11:20 GMT -5
Endgame in a very close match, where both teams are nearly meched out. Hero if you pull it out, heartbroken if you blow it. So now, what do you do? If I could explain what I'd do I would ?, but for people that already know what to do, it's a combination of a lot of things that are actually pretty difficult to edify clearly. Me? I'd kill the thing and be done with it. Someone else? Don't get into that position to begin with ?. Tag team it and be more aware of your surroundings. Best I've got besides the corner shoot and pray. Those messy endgames are difficult. So many factors to consider - existing beacon bar, beacon possession, time remaining, available weapons on either side, map type.... But that's just one example. There will always be times when the ability to make a play by winning a 1 on 1 is valuable. You can always run away, wait for help, sure.... but you can also do better, sooner.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 5, 2017 11:50:51 GMT -5
Agreed. I have my one moment of glory I recall that I was thinking of as I posted above, where it was 4 v me at the very and and I killed 3 and stopped an end cap that would have cost us the game and thinking back, there were so many things I had to weigh at once in an instant, it really is hard to advise people sometimes. I could never retell all the decisions I had to make and why, that it really is best to say "don't get into that spot to begin with because the answer really is too complicated". You'll either learn the nuances or you won't ?.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 5, 2017 17:59:12 GMT -5
I know, a boa. Walk right into it shield and all and unload a thunder/orkan in its face. I mean literally walk right on top of it. Or circle around it with boa's speed and unload on it. Note: it has to be an ambush but still 1v1 i bealive with ur story to beat lance with leo..but boa..r u sure?
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Post by osang on Mar 5, 2017 18:15:31 GMT -5
1 on 1...from a far away distance, probably Fury can beat it with Trebuchet, though it will take many shots.
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Post by ogt on Mar 5, 2017 19:21:16 GMT -5
I kill Lancicle everytime with dead button they never stand a chance. The ancile dies very easy and is very slow to regenerate. Reload and fire, splash damage hits all 3 physical shields plus the robot itself and it dies.
I have one ancelot myself and what makes me most angry is a thunder killing off my shield from 400 meters away...
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Post by RΛИDØM on Mar 6, 2017 0:12:35 GMT -5
The quad Orkan doc, Thunder Orkan Lancelot and thunder Taran Lancelot can all take out an ancelot in most 1v1 situations. If you can move inside the ancile shield then the ancilot will take damage directly (without the protection of the shield). An ancilot is difficult to take out with ranged weapons unless you can get it 2v1 or shoot it in the side or back with energy weapons. As far as I can tell the regeneration rate on the ancile makes the ancilot invulnerable to the Russian death button setup and requires multiple trident Furys to focus it to take it down. The ancelot is a great way to protect a push by your squad's brawlers for a crucial beacon from enemy trident Furys.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 6, 2017 0:23:50 GMT -5
Flanking plasma bots DB griffin, DB Rhino, or Thunder orkan lance if it can get into the anicle shield Maybe thunder carnage if it can attack from behind?
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Post by typewriter on Mar 6, 2017 0:54:39 GMT -5
in a strictly 1v1 situation, with identically skilled pilots, same level weapons and bots, the thunder taran lancelot will either beat the taran ancilot, or end up double KO with it. The former being much more likely IMO.
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 6, 2017 1:44:35 GMT -5
1 on 1...from a far away distance, probably Fury can beat it with Trebuchet, though it will take many shots. wow..i dont think so..
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 6, 2017 1:48:10 GMT -5
The quad Orkan doc, Thunder Orkan Lancelot and thunder Taran Lancelot can all take out an ancelot in most 1v1 situations. If you can move inside the ancile shield then the ancilot will take damage directly (without the protection of the shield). An ancilot is difficult to take out with ranged weapons unless you can get it 2v1 or shoot it in the side or back with energy weapons. As far as I can tell the regeneration rate on the ancile makes the ancilot invulnerable to the Russian death button setup and requires multiple trident Furys to focus it to take it down. The ancelot is a great way to protect a push by your squad's brawlers for a crucial beacon from enemy trident Furys. oh.!! i forgot abt new bot..doc, butch and jessy...
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 6, 2017 1:51:03 GMT -5
Flanking plasma bots DB griffin, DB Rhino, or Thunder orkan lance if it can get into the anicle shield Maybe thunder carnage if it can attack from behind? if attack from behind i think mosly all bot can kill him..
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 6, 2017 1:59:21 GMT -5
many player give nice theory and some idea to beat lancelot with ancile.. 1. Leo with thunder and pinata (ok..ive been try it..somtime work somtimes not..or mybe coz my pinata just lv 5. 2. Carnage with huge damage (well i dont know..i think lancelots taran will eat him first ) 3. Fast boot more than 45km (that mean light bot..this teory need skill full of pilot i think..coz light bot have little health..) 4. galahad ( i like his teory..and maybe its really possible..any body been try it?) 5. Ancile with leo magnum (oh...i dont know..its sound heavy to beat lancelot ) 6. taran fuji (well the proble will come if lancelot use his taran) leo with thunder and pinata the most cheap choice and easy to reach for player who want anticipation lancelot with his ancile... some player said some thing true.. 7. lancelot with thunder and anchile (lance kill lance...) i hope grifin will have build in shield energy and build in shield. so it will make easy to kill lance...
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Post by petevb on Mar 6, 2017 2:15:29 GMT -5
Lots already covered...
For range a Fury Zeus is effective. Cripples one in about 30 seconds.
Plasma Galahad is my go-to, Thunder Lance of either type is also a sure thing. Other Plasma bots work well from range against an Ork.
Quad Ork Doc is also effective. DB Rhino you can charge inside a Taran Ancilot's shield before unloading- dicey if they backpedal early enough, but very satisfying. Carnage Thunder will maul one, especially an Ork, by getting in close...
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Post by Giant's Toe on Mar 6, 2017 3:33:49 GMT -5
I know, a boa. Walk right into it shield and all and unload a thunder/orkan in its face. I mean literally walk right on top of it. Or circle around it with boa's speed and unload on it. Note: it has to be an ambush but still 1v1 i bealive with ur story to beat lance with leo..but boa..r u sure? I said ambush brother, i faced a ancile lance once in yama, 1v1 not ambush. I used all of the above but he killed me in the end. But to be fair, i got him to a sliver of health which our long range treb tasha took advantage of and sent him to hell. gold bots are more superior to ag bots. A plasma gareth can kill a plasma griffin. the only consolation would be all of us use the same type of weapons, its how we maneuver the bot and shoot the weapons.
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Post by Giant's Toe on Mar 6, 2017 3:45:21 GMT -5
with equal price with fury 5000 gold. i think lancelot with ancile is too much stronger than fury. lets me ask..its posible to defeat fury 1 on 1...but what robot posible to beat lancelot with ancile 1 on 1..? i have no idea until now..... That question can only be from a fury trident camper pilot!!! For me the lance/ancile combo is the only competitive answer to face the trident campers. I have a lance with ancile but when i face orcans the lance is down very fast Put three thunders on the fury. Hide in a corner wait for the lance to come to you then unload on him. If 15 consecutive shots from the three thunders are not enough, maybe the 2-3 second reload time of the thunders to shoot again can finish the job. This is all hypothetical, never tried it and i don't own a fury. But you have to agree the damage from 3 thunders shooting at very close range (face to face) is nothing to scoff at.
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