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Post by stamos65 on Mar 26, 2018 7:24:35 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. Just MOVE ON.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 7:35:33 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast.
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Post by Forumite on Mar 26, 2018 7:38:10 GMT -5
No problem chief!
Just spend MORE money, MORE wp and MORE time getting one of them new fancy dancy bots to run your shottrains right up on those boys.
Of course, the other option is to develop your piloting skills. Just sayin...
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 26, 2018 7:55:32 GMT -5
Bulgasari shields can take over 300k damage. That gives you more than enough time to cover the 100m gap so you can zap him back. Then once he's down, you can keep making the game miserable to play for everyone else with your wintrains.
Was that so hard? Lots of other ways to do it too, but this is the most popular.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Mar 26, 2018 8:17:10 GMT -5
Pix didn't go nearly far enough with the ST nerf, imo. Should have a max range of 300m. Anything that does that much dmg that often to that many reds should have to get in there amongst them to do it.
Biggest pansy weapon in the game, and that goes for those who use them, too.
BOYCOTT THE SHOCKTRAIN, BRETHREN! ORKANS FOREVER!!!!
P.S. Just picking, folks. ST users aren't pansies, just made some bad choices. They can get better like anyone else
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Mar 26, 2018 8:21:51 GMT -5
Pix didn't go nearly far enough with the ST nerf, imo. Should have a max range of 300m. Anything that does that much dmg that often to that many reds should have to get in there amongst them to do it. Biggest pansy weapon in the game, and that goes for those who use them, too. BOYCOTT THE SHOCKTRAIN, BRETHREN! ORKANS FOREVER!!!! P.S. Just picking, folks. ST users aren't pansies, just made some bad choices. They can get better like anyone else I will support you under 1 condition: Orkan should be nerfed to 50 m range. I believe then we can ask Pixonic to introduce swords, clubs and lances. Some bots have shields already ;-)
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Post by Sub Z on Mar 26, 2018 8:23:28 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. What bot are you Shocktrains on? if you are Champ league, I'm thinking it either on a Bulgi or Specter? If so, either of these bots should be immune to Zeus/Ions for the short 100 meter difference in the weapon ranges. Even the slow Bulgie should only be hit 2-3 times before it moves 100m in the open (that's at best 180K shield damage). For the Specter that's one jump from 601m down to under 500m (where you can zap them on landing and have 5 seconds to run to cover) - after that is just 1-2 jump/fire attacks and the Carny/Fury is dead. I just don't see the scenario that a Zeus/Ion setup on bots slow/soft to Shocktrain can kill a Champ level pilot.
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 26, 2018 8:32:19 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. whaaa-whaaa-whaaa!! you're a terriable player who shouldn't move up the league just by sitting and pocket shooting players. you shouldn't be in the champ if cant adept your situation. i think your just a noob who's want attention. Everything never revolve around my world!!! I WANT PIX TO FIX EVERYTHING SO IT FAVOR IN MY HAND ! WHAA---WHAAA----WHAAAAA
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Post by snk on Mar 26, 2018 9:23:10 GMT -5
Well, Zeus is easy task for Shocktrain Bulgasari (If you have them on Heachi, then bad luck), Tulumbus is worse, ST vs RDB Griffin (Similar dpm now) vs Tulumbus Bulgasari (less dpm but physical shield) after the nerf. 2 more second reload is suck, but they are still very good MR since RDB and Trident are rare in Champions League.
Even 3 ST has similar dpm (after ~25% dpm nerf) compared to RDB Griffin, but its chain damage is quite OP.
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Post by TravLar on Mar 26, 2018 9:30:46 GMT -5
Pix didn't go nearly far enough with the ST nerf, imo. Should have a max range of 300m. Anything that does that much dmg that often to that many reds should have to get in there amongst them to do it. Biggest pansy weapon in the game, and that goes for those who use them, too. BOYCOTT THE SHOCKTRAIN, BRETHREN! ORKANS FOREVER!!!! P.S. Just picking, folks. ST users aren't pansies, just made some bad choices. They can get better like anyone else Issue for me with STs is that they spoil the game. Their damage isn't that bad, its the train effect. Its unnecessary and unrealistic. Also, getting into a good partnership with a fellow random was always one of the highlights of the game for me. Now my Lance is getting Shttrained up the @55 because by team mate has my back.
I do use them though, I got them for free and they're in the meta.
They have one big plus: Those stealthed Spectres & Inquistors? Shoot the red next to him...
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 26, 2018 9:54:37 GMT -5
....but its chain damage is quite OP. And that is the only real concern about it that most players have. If it acted like the Zeus or even the Gekko most players would be perfectly happy with it. It's the damn impossible chain effect that pisses off the majority of players that care about player skill being paramount. Pretty soon players are going to spawn on short maps and after 2-3 red blinks the matches will be over. It might take just a little longer on larger maps but you get the picture.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 26, 2018 10:21:37 GMT -5
Just turn your torso so the Bulg's shield catches the Zeus blasts. At 500m, Zeuses are pretty easy to block and I rarely die from them. Carnages are usually 3 shot kills and I can kill a Fury before he breaks my shield. It's not the Zeus that gets me, it's the Orkan and Taran bots in between! I usually play too aggressively in my ST Bulg, or use it these days as a sacrificial lamb at CB. You'd be surprised at how many reds will break cover to get a piece of you! Plus, there's the Ion. Get 3 of them and go toe to toe with Zeus at 600m with firepower somewhere between Fury and Carnage.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 26, 2018 10:34:26 GMT -5
So, you feel that you are on board the "Castration Train" instead of the "Push-Button-To-Win" Train because you have to actually deal with... gasp... counters to your P2W weapon?
There is always one.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 26, 2018 10:41:01 GMT -5
Truth be told, I really don't see my ST's as being all that powerful. For the amount of time it takes to charge up, lock on, wait for someone to set fully out of cover...well, the damage it does just doesn't seem worth it. Maybe mine aren't high enough level yet? They're the highest level items in my hangar: 10. Most other ST users out there have their at level 12 minimum. Meh...I'm having way more fun with Scourges these days. I'm planning on shelving my Tarans and just going with Scourges. Sure, there are some things the Taran does better... but today, I fired almost an entire clip at a Hover that was going under a bridge. Most of the shots didn't register. So annoying. I know I'm not great with this weapon...but come on. I was aiming fully centre, using an Ancilot so I wasn't running or jumping around, and the Hover STILL kills me cause most of my shots didn't register...grr...
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Post by AzureAura on Mar 26, 2018 10:42:45 GMT -5
You make it sound like they killed it off or some 「dookie」.
They didn't and probably never really will.
Shocktrains are a no skill weapon but you make act like you need skill to use it. All it takes is some hide and seek then Pew pew Dead
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 26, 2018 10:48:19 GMT -5
The true power of the Shocktrain is in having allies who understand the true value of having you on their team: bait!
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Post by dom0aragato on Mar 26, 2018 11:13:50 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. Boo hoo. Ever occur to you that maybe your OP zero skill weapon might annoy those who get hit even though they're hiding far from you? If you can't take out a slow Zeus bot with your dash bot you truly are awful.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 26, 2018 21:18:43 GMT -5
Please do something about that font. Trying to read it made my retinas bleed.
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Post by hashisfun on Mar 26, 2018 21:33:17 GMT -5
Pix didn't go nearly far enough with the ST nerf, imo. Should have a max range of 300m. Anything that does that much dmg that often to that many reds should have to get in there amongst them to do it. Biggest pansy weapon in the game, and that goes for those who use them, too. BOYCOTT THE SHOCKTRAIN, BRETHREN! ORKANS FOREVER!!!! P.S. Just picking, folks. ST users aren't pansies, just made some bad choices. They can get better like anyone else I will support you under 1 condition: Orkan should be nerfed to 50 m range. I believe then we can ask Pixonic to introduce swords, clubs and lances. Some bots have shields already ;-) ....and give the orkans a 3 sec timer to lock on as well
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Post by benjamin36 on Mar 26, 2018 21:39:37 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. whaaa-whaaa-whaaa!! you're a terriable player who shouldn't move up the league just by sitting and pocket shooting players. you shouldn't be in the champ if cant adept your situation. i think your just a noob who's want attention. Everything never revolve around my world!!! I WANT PIX TO FIX EVERYTHING SO IT FAVOR IN MY HAND ! WHAA---WHAAA----WHAAAAAGuaranteed this is a player who complained that Pixonic needs to nerf the shocktrain.
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Post by benjamin36 on Mar 26, 2018 21:41:48 GMT -5
whaaa-whaaa-whaaa!! you're a terriable player who shouldn't move up the league just by sitting and pocket shooting players. you shouldn't be in the champ if cant adept your situation. i think your just a noob who's want attention. Everything never revolve around my world!!! I WANT PIX TO FIX EVERYTHING SO IT FAVOR IN MY HAND ! WHAA---WHAAA----WHAAAAA Guaranteed this is a player who complained that Pixonic needs to nerf the shocktrain. Ha it is! It's the one and only "leavemealone". The player that publicly shames other players while hiding their own name. What an ?bum-bum?. I highly suggest you read this so you can understand the Intellectual that he obviously is
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 26, 2018 22:58:40 GMT -5
Guaranteed this is a player who complained that Pixonic needs to nerf the shocktrain. Ha it is! It's the one and only "leavemealone". The player that publicly shames other players while hiding their own name. What an ?bum-bum?. I highly suggest you read this so you can understand the Intellectual that he obviously is I wasn't talking about you some how it how affecting you... Oh Wait, you must those player who sit behind and do damage and rely to rank up that way, am I right . I keep my name anonymous because I can and I'll keep it that way.
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Post by benjamin36 on Mar 26, 2018 23:16:49 GMT -5
Ha it is! It's the one and only "leavemealone". The player that publicly shames other players while hiding their own name. What an ?bum-bum?. I highly suggest you read this so you can understand the Intellectual that he obviously is I wasn't talking about you some how it how affecting you... Oh Wait, you must those player who sit behind and do damage and rely to rank up that way, am I right . I keep my name anonymous because I can and I'll keep it that way. Let's not forget when a player asked what would be the most effective use of their first shocktrain and you had this insight for them.
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Post by benjamin36 on Mar 26, 2018 23:24:49 GMT -5
Ha it is! It's the one and only "leavemealone". The player that publicly shames other players while hiding their own name. What an ?bum-bum?. I highly suggest you read this so you can understand the Intellectual that he obviously is I wasn't talking about you some how it how affecting you... Oh Wait, you must those player who sit behind and do damage and rely to rank up that way, am I right . I keep my name anonymous because I can and I'll keep it that way. Bottom line is that you're a pariah on this forum. When you have something constructive to say, by all means respond. Until then, feel free to keep your bull「dookie」 to yourself
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 27, 2018 1:01:23 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about you some how it how affecting you... Oh Wait, you must those player who sit behind and do damage and rely to rank up that way, am I right . I keep my name anonymous because I can and I'll keep it that way. Bottom line is that you're a pariah on this forum. When you have something constructive to say, by all means respond. Until then, feel free to keep your bull?poo-poo? to yourself you're like a fly that need to be swap . you want to play by play quote everything I write? why are you riding on my 「poopie」 so hard?
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Post by benjamin36 on Mar 27, 2018 1:40:49 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. whaaa-whaaa-whaaa!! you're a terriable player who shouldn't move up the league just by sitting and pocket shooting players. you shouldn't be in the champ if cant adept your situation. i think your just a noob who's want attention. Everything never revolve around my world!!! I WANT PIX TO FIX EVERYTHING SO IT FAVOR IN MY HAND ! WHAA---WHAAA----WHAAAAABecause I grow tired of seeing garbage like this. It is not necessary to derail other people's threads with this sort of negativity. I've been able to reference two threads in the last few days that you have attempted to derail, and one thread with you calling out another play by in-game name, for "Pocket shooting". Disregarding, I guess, that your team won and you scored top damage. You need to seriously work on your comebacks.
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 27, 2018 2:17:10 GMT -5
whaaa-whaaa-whaaa!! you're a terriable player who shouldn'tÃÂ move up the league just by sitting and pocket shooting players. you shouldn't be in the champ ifÃÂ cantÃÂ adept your situation. i think your just aÃÂ noob who's want attention. Everything never revolve around my world!!! I WANT PIX TO FIX EVERYTHING SO IT FAVOR IN MY HAND ! WHAA---WHAAA----WHAAAAA Because I grow tired of seeing garbage like this. It is not necessary to derail other people's threads with this sort of negativity. I've been able to reference two threads in the last few days that you have attempted to derail, and one thread with you calling out another play by in-game name, for "Pocket shooting". Disregarding, I guess, that your team won and you scored top damage. You need to seriously work on your comebacks. You're a bit slow aren't you. I was taking a jab at OP for whining at something that life isn't fair. ''Because I grow tired of seeing garbage like this'' then look at other way. In fact, stop lurking through history threads and maybe you won't be tired of seeing it dumb 「bum-bum」. LoL what comeback?! It's true you're like a fly lurking through my threads history and getting in other peoples business that doesn't concern you and quoting every single thing I say, pathetic . This is a free country we are allowed to oppressed our views if we disagree on something. If you don't like it gtfo out the country and move some where you're not allowed to view your opinions.
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Post by Payxonic on Mar 27, 2018 4:05:23 GMT -5
I play in the Champions League I and it annoys me tremendously. Many campers with Zeus. Carnag and Fury. You can not get to these players. Every 5 seconds a strong arc of light that takes your life. Everyone is talking about the oh-so-bad shock training. Zeus is worse. Have spent a lot of time, gold and WP in my shock training. And now she has been cast. For a champion, you talk like a recruit. Or maybe you just want to begin you post like you are at champion but your not? Zeus, Carn, and Fury can be countered by just dodge, hide, strike and teamwork. Grow a pair and start doing... i dont know.. skillfull gameplay? Shock train cant be countered so easily by doing the latter. Its ridiculous even on concept. Castrated you say? really? they just "made it seemed like they nerfed it" but they didnt. That weapon can chain on bots even when on shield or stealth its so full of ?poo-poo?. Or maybe you have been playing shocktrain too long that you forgot how to... i dont know.,, play with skill maybe?
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Post by BingiDredd on Mar 27, 2018 9:53:09 GMT -5
I used to be an 100% brawler , 3 Rhino's and 2 Lances. Then pix let loose the dash bots on the un-expecting. Had 3 Zuses that were at lev1. Never used them. But after the release of the Dashes I charged 2 of them bad boys up. Now I enjoy frying chickens. Levelling up the 3rd as I like my chicken well fried. I encourage every player get Zuses for the likes of OP and get to frying chicken. Sorry no sympathy for dash users.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Mar 27, 2018 20:21:24 GMT -5
Reduced my eagerness to reach champion becoz it proves nothing. Thx.
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