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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 14, 2018 10:18:43 GMT -5
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Post by DarkVagabond on Mar 14, 2018 10:26:36 GMT -5
You my dear, are our heroine in shining armour. Not even kidding. ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX for president!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 10:30:57 GMT -5
Tankers - no action.
Clubbers - Keep on keeping on.
Money - feel the fury!
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Post by endyu on Mar 14, 2018 10:35:02 GMT -5
Awesome! They took the bots and weapons they purchased with the resources as well hopefully?
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Post by taniel on Mar 14, 2018 10:40:38 GMT -5
Loaders? What is that exactly?
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 14, 2018 10:40:55 GMT -5
Could you elaborate what u mean by loader? Sorry for my incompetence understanding
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Post by [CK]erazor on Mar 14, 2018 10:44:50 GMT -5
I wonder what it feels like to open War Robots, looking at a negative AU/AG balance. LOL.
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Post by Poopface on Mar 14, 2018 10:45:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 10:47:11 GMT -5
Often fought that hieroglyph clan... It is raining spectres ..
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 14, 2018 10:53:30 GMT -5
Awesome! They took the bots and weapons they purchased with the resources as well hopefully? That’s my understanding from reading those screenshots. ?? |
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Post by benveg on Mar 14, 2018 10:53:48 GMT -5
Who cares of Loaders?
Fix Tankers (and ST)
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Post by Loganspawn on Mar 14, 2018 10:55:24 GMT -5
Awesome! They took the bots and weapons they purchased with the resources as well hopefully? Not sure, I saw a admitted U Tuber last night who was banned for two days becuase of this running MK2 Dragoons still along with other goodies. He did have a NEGATIVE 200,000 GOLD!!!!! but alas he did still have some cool toys. :-( I am sure this person did give Pixonic some real money along the way and they worked out a compromise on what he got to keep. At least this well know player has admitted what he did even if its only so he can keep playing. I am just pissed I complained and got 「grape」 for months while others acted like this was not happening Grrr....... |
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Post by Loganspawn on Mar 14, 2018 10:56:35 GMT -5
It’s been sad to watch my favorite game turn into the mess it is today. And the fact that SO MANY players are willing to turn to these shady practices (on top of the tanking epidemic) to compete is a depressing commentary on society as a whole. But I’m hopeful that the game may still be salvageable before it implodes. Time will tell.
And my clan was just thinking about getting into this... Loading is getting someone from a region with a depressed economy on your clan so they can buy gold for you, as Pixonic varies how much they sell gold for by region. The going rate is $28 for 13k gold. I don't see how this is a shady practice. Is it shady to go to Canada to buy cheaper medicine than purchasing it in the United States? How about a TV? Same principal. If anything, this is just more evidence that pay-to-win is a horrific idea, as tanking and loading are symptoms of pay to win. Why are people concerned with balance in the first place in a pay to win game? They were then getting refunds! You need more research bro. |
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Post by Flint8821 on Mar 14, 2018 10:57:03 GMT -5
I don't get the reference. So are loaders people using a hacking tool? And how are they buying gold from 3rd parties? |
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Post by bronzeknee on Mar 14, 2018 10:57:38 GMT -5
I should not have posted anything.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 14, 2018 11:02:56 GMT -5
Who cares of Loaders? Fix Tankers (and ST) I care about all of it. |
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Post by Domino on Mar 14, 2018 11:03:56 GMT -5
How are they going to reverse all the dmg they caused? How much effort is it going to take to retrace what is legitimate vs loaded?
I say just ban the account, done.
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Post by Poopface on Mar 14, 2018 11:05:28 GMT -5
How are they going to reverse all the dmg they caused? How much effort is it going to take to retrace what is legitimate vs loaded? I say just ban the account, done. Won't happen. Pixonic sees that these people want to spend money on the game. They just want to force the people to give the money to them instead of a loader. |
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Post by krebby on Mar 14, 2018 11:06:12 GMT -5
This is just sad on so many levels.
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Post by Domino on Mar 14, 2018 11:10:38 GMT -5
How are they going to reverse all the dmg they caused? How much effort is it going to take to retrace what is legitimate vs loaded? I say just ban the account, done. Won't happen. Pixonic sees that these people want to spend money on the game. They just want to force the people to give the money to them instead of a loader. I expect an amendment to the legal complience (if it already doesn't have it) that you must purchase from the country of residence or something along those lines. Otherwise what they did is perfectly legal. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 14, 2018 11:13:20 GMT -5
Won't happen. Pixonic sees that these people want to spend money on the game. They just want to force the people to give the money to them instead of a loader. I expect an amendment to the legal complience (if it already doesn't have it) that you must purchase from the country of residence or something along those lines. Otherwise what they did is perfectly legal. Legality isn't even the issue... it's that Pix's TOS say no 3rd party purchasing... period. And that TOS has stated that for a long time... As I understand it. |
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 14, 2018 11:14:55 GMT -5
And my clan was just thinking about getting into this... Loading is getting someone from a region with a depressed economy on your clan so they can buy gold for you, as Pixonic varies how much they sell gold for by region. The going rate is $28 for 13k gold. I don't see how this is a shady practice. Is it shady to go to Canada to buy cheaper medicine than purchasing it in the United States? How about a TV? Same principal. If anything, this is just more evidence that pay-to-win is a horrific idea, as tanking and loading are symptoms of pay to win. Why are people concerned with balance in the first place in a pay to win game? They were then getting refunds! You need more research bro. Can you expand on this? I’ll be honest: I don’t fully know how loaders work. I suspected there was some currency manipulation and/or stolen credit cards/iTunes cards, etc., but I am still figuring things out myself. |
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Post by Domino on Mar 14, 2018 11:15:06 GMT -5
They were then getting refunds! You need more research bro. Can you expand on this? I’ll be honest: I don’t fully know how loaders work. I suspected there was some currency manipulation and/or stolen credit cards/iTunes cards, etc., but I am still figuring things out myself. Sounds like they are finding people that live where currency exchange between them and the purchase of Au in that region is cheap. So they send the guy $10 US dollars to a nigerian, that = 3600 Niara. For 3000 Niara, he can gift clan 5000 Au or something. I'm assuming all this |
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Post by [CK]erazor on Mar 14, 2018 11:23:58 GMT -5
Actually it's pretty clever and yes Domino it should work just like you have described. Buy stuff in countries where it is cheap and then use the clan system to distribute the gold. I don't see any "third party action" that Pix wants to prohibit as everything works within the Google or the Apple universe. It's perfectly legal.
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Post by seanh on Mar 14, 2018 11:32:30 GMT -5
I don’t know exactly how loading works. But there is a requirement in the EU for any app provider to charge local VAT rates on any in app purchase. So for example I pay Irish VAT at a somewhat unpleasant 23%. If I had a clan mate in either a EU country with a lower VAT rate, or perhaps a non EU country which simply does not apply any direct sales tax, then we could certainly work out an arrangement. I would however be guilty of tax evasion.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 14, 2018 11:33:48 GMT -5
Actually it's pretty clever and yes Domino it should work just like you have described. Buy stuff in countries where it is cheap and then use the clan system to distribute the gold. I don't see any "third party action" that Pix wants to prohibit as everything works within the Google or the Apple universe. It's perfectly legal. Except for when people do this as a business... they advertise, then join your clan. Or, they take control of your account, play it and farm as well as the loading activities. Violates their TOS, I believe. |
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Post by [CK]erazor on Mar 14, 2018 11:37:21 GMT -5
I investigated a bit into this and found a way to get 14000 gold for 36€. Ingame, this would cost me 110€. Prices are IOS. So that's pretty interesting and I would have never thought that this is even possible. I understand that you can buy stuff in big games like World of Warcraft but I wouldn't guessed, this is possible in War Robots.
So to get the three dash bots you just had to log out for some weeks, then get the 3*14000 gold for 36€ each and voila: Three dashes for just above 100€ which would be even a somewhat reasonable price.
I guess that a LOT of clans or single high-end players have done this without sharing this little interesting piece of information with the rest of the 99% War Robots players.
This game is toxic and now, thinking about this I doubt that there is a cure.
Edit: For the players that were paying regular prices one dash was about 245€ here, so just three dashes were already above 700€. Now imagine you could have got them for just 108€. Explains a lot what's happening within the game.
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Post by donkeyboy on Mar 14, 2018 11:37:57 GMT -5
It is also people who spend large amounts of $$ on resources and then get it refunded through iOS/Apple or android
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 14, 2018 11:38:21 GMT -5
If it was so “smart” and ethical, people wouldn’t be so furtive about what they’re doing. If anything, I would place this in a gray area. A shady gray area.
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Post by seanh on Mar 14, 2018 11:43:37 GMT -5
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