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Post by AVC on Mar 19, 2018 4:33:37 GMT -5
Awesome! All I have to do to complete the next War Robots Event is give my login to some Romanian to grind it out.. NOT!!! But an eyeopener all the same. A bit like photos of the Fake Feedback sites.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Mar 19, 2018 8:35:41 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. I asked around on Facebook and apparently this is some kind of hack. Players are somehow able to put three heavies on a bulgasari. When you look at their hangar after the battle, it shows low/mid-level Leos and no activity (zero cups). Check this thread out: m.facebook.com/groups/833796706695486?view=permalink&id=1884063801668766
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Post by Loganspawn on Mar 19, 2018 10:14:26 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment. So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time. Actually, I believe the negative gold balance was restored to zero and he had a bunch of robots and weapons taken away instead. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because he’s already been scapegoated enough. I kind of feel the same way except he loves to You Tube how great he and his clan are! When I watched him before I even knew about him Gold Loading I thought wow they are like a bunch of bullies proud they taking a kindergartners lunch money. But yes he is being singled out. most likely because of the above. Damn right after his two day Ban he was up on YouTube basically like oh well..... How many months have I had to play these clowns? Why do they still get to keep there stuff or even get to play without starting at the bottom? How many people Quit due to players like this. I know I almost have a few times. him and those others like him have helped ruin Champion play IMO. Saddest part they already were good. Already played on super ubber computers with big screens always squaded using comm's yet it still wasn't enough.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 19, 2018 13:56:15 GMT -5
Loader a,so allows to change stats and cups. Currently playing in iOS champs. This guy is ranked 13/14th in LEGEND leaugue and it is so obvious that it is hacked. Over 70% win rate, 0 avg damage, 4K victories and just lvl 23. Only other thing I can think off is time drop but a player won’t be dumb enough to get that account up to legend leaugue with time drop even if he is trolling xD. I asked around on Facebook and apparently this is some kind of hack. Players are somehow able to put three heavies on a bulgasari. When you look at their hangar after the battle, it shows low/mid-level Leos and no activity (zero cups). Check this thread out: m.facebook.com/groups/833796706695486?view=permalink&id=1884063801668766Says link is broken or I don’t have permission to open it. Either way I am looking forward to pix reply. Reported some guys using loaders with their full mk2 hangars including one I posted above and haven’t got reply yet. It’s been like 3 days. Only thing I want is ban them as currently I can’t play at champ leaugue with my 10/10 gears. Even if I do 700-800k damage usually I am at last at damage score due to all those mk2 weapons and shocktrains . If they ban or take their bots and gold then maybe champ leaugue would be less pop-poo and people would be motivated to push instead of tanking ( tankers are gonna tank but few guys drops due to all st running around).
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Post by mondoduke on Mar 19, 2018 15:15:15 GMT -5
If it was so “smart” and ethical, people wouldn’t be so furtive about what they’re doing. If anything, I would place this in a gray area. A shady gray area. Charcoal. Actually I think it should continue. The Pixonic prices are outrageous to begin with. Greedy MoFos.
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Post by hashisfun on Mar 24, 2018 11:09:24 GMT -5
phewwwww....and it happens here too this is one of the reason i had quit other games....even after being the top league. discrimination and tolerance of racist and abusive players. all companies gotta make money....thats how the game survives for free players as well. but the unethical practices like fixing the lottery ( superchest or chest etc) and the discrimination too paying members by making them pay more while others pay 1/6th or cheat is what gets a person played this game for maybe 2 weeks....threw is some money. not spending a single cent more for sure due to the unfair/unethical practices....
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 5, 2018 9:34:18 GMT -5
Nope nothing has changed. BigJJ and friends still have 5 hangars with at least three of them all MK2 OP gear and bots.
Cheat, Tank, game the system its all good as long as it helps force the rest of us players to spend money. This my take on PIXONIC.
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Post by White1Golf on Apr 5, 2018 9:53:37 GMT -5
Nope nothing has changed. BigJJ and friends still have 5 hangars with at least three of them all MK2 OP gear and bots. Cheat, Tank, game the system its all good as long as it helps force the rest of us players to spend money. This my take on PIXONIC. Checked his hangar yesterday and he has somehow already managed to achieve a positive gold balance? Even if he bought the 24k Au for $100 that's almost $1,000 in Au. I smell something...
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Post by White1Golf on Apr 5, 2018 9:56:31 GMT -5
Actually, I believe the negative gold balance was restored to zero and he had a bunch of robots and weapons taken away instead. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because heâs already been scapegoated enough. I kind of feel the same way except he loves to You Tube how great he and his clan are! When I watched him before I even knew about him Gold Loading I thought wow they are like a bunch of bullies proud they taking a kindergartners lunch money. But yes he is being singled out. most likely because of the above. Damn right after his two day Ban he was up on YouTube basically like oh well..... How many months have I had to play these clowns? Why do they still get to keep there stuff or even get to play without starting at the bottom? How many people Quit due to players like this. I know I almost have a few times. him and those others like him have helped ruin Champion play IMO. Saddest part they already were good. Already played on super ubber computers with big screens always squaded using comm's yet it still wasn't enough. Yeah JJ is a piece of 「dookie」.
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 5, 2018 10:21:59 GMT -5
Nope nothing has changed. BigJJ and friends still have 5 hangars with at least three of them all MK2 OP gear and bots. Cheat, Tank, game the system its all good as long as it helps force the rest of us players to spend money. This my take on PIXONIC. Checked his hangar yesterday and he has somehow already managed to achieve a positive gold balance? Even if he bought the 24k Au for $100 that's almost $1,000 in Au. I smell something... His gold was out of the negative 5 days after he was caught. I keep getting stuck against him and his clan-mates so I have watched him.
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Post by Estoplast on Apr 5, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5
JJ stated that, they changed the penalty and took some bots instead of negative Au balance.
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Post by White1Golf on Apr 5, 2018 11:54:01 GMT -5
JJ stated that, they changed the penalty and took some bots instead of negative Au balance. Oh, I don't watch his videos. I checked out his channel but the combination of his fat face, voice, e-cig, and him complaining about personal drama made the experience unbearable.
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Post by bronzeknee on Apr 5, 2018 12:01:43 GMT -5
The people who got hit with it were given -200,000 gold. However, Pixonic didn't take away their expensive equipment. So they'll continue to trouble the top of the ladder for a long time. Actually, I believe the negative gold balance was restored to zero and he had a bunch of robots and weapons taken away instead. I hesitate to keep using the only guy we know about as an example because he’s already been scapegoated enough. I just want to confirm that they did not take away equipment from the loaders I know.
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Post by Estoplast on Apr 5, 2018 13:19:37 GMT -5
JJ stated that, they changed the penalty and took some bots instead of negative Au balance. Oh, I don't watch his videos. I checked out his channel but the combination of his fat face, voice, e-cig, and him complaining about personal drama made the experience unbearable. I occasinally watch. The wrong appeals me.
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 5, 2018 14:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by Domino on Apr 6, 2018 8:12:09 GMT -5
I guess that means Loading is perfectly legal! Why would I go and spend $150 for 14k Au when I get can it from a Loader for $15-30
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Post by Domino on Apr 12, 2018 8:28:15 GMT -5
Any updates on this? I see at least 2-3 guys a week that have like 2000 wins but have 5 hangars with 2-3 Hangars with MK2 lvl 12 best of the best.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Apr 12, 2018 9:22:20 GMT -5
Is crossing the border into another country and buying something cheaper "loading"?. I'm not sure this is ins't just currency exchange windfall otherwise known as a deal on something.
I'll probably get jumped for stating the truth, but so be it. The truth is more important.
Gold loaders are a price check on Pixonic's absurd prices for things so I'm not against this at all.. In fact I wish there were more people offering game currency for discounts.
It's not cheating...It's finding a deal else where. Pixionc is cracking down because it challenges their hegemony for pricing their game content... Steam and valve did the same. If you can find a deal then good for you.
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Post by northempire on Apr 12, 2018 9:23:28 GMT -5
Pix should really check CLAN ID 1 and 2!!!!
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 12, 2018 9:33:55 GMT -5
Is crossing the border into another country and buying something cheaper "loading"?. I'm not sure this is ins't just currency exchange windfall otherwise known as a deal on something. I'll probably get jumped for stating the truth, but so be it. The truth is more important. Gold loaders are a price check on Pixonic's absurd prices for things so I'm not against this at all.. In fact I wish there were more people offering game currency for discounts. It's not cheating...It's finding a deal else where. Pixionc is cracking down because it challenges their hegemony for pricing their game content... Steam and valve did the same. If you can find a deal then good for you. You know I normally respect what you say but your frustration with Pixonic has overloaded your brain. What they are doing is going out of their way to game the system they are not just buying gold at a discount. Lets keep it real bro. The only people it hurts is those of us NOT cheating the game.
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Post by Estoplast on Apr 12, 2018 9:54:10 GMT -5
If it would be buying abroad cheaper, no one would even blink. This is basically trading with stolen goods.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Apr 12, 2018 9:59:19 GMT -5
Is crossing the border into another country and buying something cheaper "loading"?. I'm not sure this is ins't just currency exchange windfall otherwise known as a deal on something. I'll probably get jumped for stating the truth, but so be it. The truth is more important. Gold loaders are a price check on Pixonic's absurd prices for things so I'm not against this at all.. In fact I wish there were more people offering game currency for discounts. It's not cheating...It's finding a deal else where. Pixionc is cracking down because it challenges their hegemony for pricing their game content... Steam and valve did the same. If you can find a deal then good for you. You know I normally respect what you say but your frustration with Pixonic has overloaded your brain. What they are doing is going out of their way to game the system they are not just buying gold at a discount. Lets keep it real bro. The only people it hurts is those of us NOT cheating the game. Is the player who is buying 50 dollar Steam cards for 45 dollars "Loading"? Is he getting an unfair advantage? How about a 50 dollar card for 40 bucks...? Is that loading? Go to a game reseller and buy the title second hand...for half which you take the savings and buy DLC that gives you an advantage in the game somehow..Is this "loading"...If you look closely you have probably found items you wanted for deep discounts more times than you can count. You simply need to think about it for a second. i am simply stating the free market aspect of this...the envy and rush to condemn from it I can do nothing about.
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Post by Domino on Apr 12, 2018 10:03:15 GMT -5
If it would be buying abroad cheaper, no one would even blink. This is basically trading with stolen goods. Its yet to be seen what the loaders are using for payment, but it wouldn't be surprising in the least bit if they are using stolen CC. So it's money laundering or just poor exchange policy within Pixonic. You can play ignorant is bliss and assume the best, but really you have to take into consideration the worse when making a decision. When I buy something that is too good to be true, same thought process enters my head. BigJJ on the other hand had -227,000 Au, so you know he bought from the loader several times or less probable is he trusted the guy the first time and gave him a big lump sum for exchange of a lot of Au.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 12, 2018 10:06:51 GMT -5
Yeah I am not sure that terminology is the same from place to place. From what I understood, and please understand that I can only go by hearsay, the majority of these "loaders" aren't just buying it for them cheaper... they are specific entities that do this for many games with stolen CC info... for a price. It's not Joe Blow paying Jane Doe in the same clan to use her cheaper Au prices to get a better price on the biggest Au package.
Again, this is my understanding... not a fact that I have evidence to back up.
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Post by Domino on Apr 12, 2018 10:09:27 GMT -5
You know I normally respect what you say but your frustration with Pixonic has overloaded your brain. What they are doing is going out of their way to game the system they are not just buying gold at a discount. Lets keep it real bro. The only people it hurts is those of us NOT cheating the game. Is the player who is buying 50 dollar Steam cards for 45 dollars "Loading"? Is he getting an unfair advantage? How about a 50 dollar card for 40 bucks...? Is that loading? Go to a game reseller and buy the title second hand...for half which you take the savings and buy DLC that gives you an advantage in the game somehow..Is this "loading"...If you look closely you have probably found items you wanted for deep discounts more times than you can count. You simply need to think about it for a second. i am simply stating the free market aspect of this...the envy and rush to condemn from it I can do nothing about. Sorry Rock but you are comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. Those people that are selling gift cards, paid full price or were gifted but don't need them and sell at a discount. Games are played to it's end then sold were once paid for full price and sold at a discount. This process is not the same. Normally these type of things also do not affect other people. Me playing against BigJJ and his 5K hangar is affecting me directly (and anyone else he plays against), because if he did it honestly, he wouldn't have 80% of the stuff he has now and a much more level playing-field would have transpired. multiple this by 100's or whatever, it's toxic to the game and community. If Pixonic has a problem with it's pricing, don't buy it and let them manage thier business for themselves. It's not up to us to do it for them
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Apr 12, 2018 10:27:43 GMT -5
Is the player who is buying 50 dollar Steam cards for 45 dollars "Loading"? Is he getting an unfair advantage? How about a 50 dollar card for 40 bucks...? Is that loading? Go to a game reseller and buy the title second hand...for half which you take the savings and buy DLC that gives you an advantage in the game somehow..Is this "loading"...If you look closely you have probably found items you wanted for deep discounts more times than you can count. You simply need to think about it for a second. i am simply stating the free market aspect of this...the envy and rush to condemn from it I can do nothing about. Sorry Rock but you are comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. Those people that are selling gift cards, payed full price or were gifted but don't need them and sell at a discount. Games are played to it's end then sold were once payed for full price and sold at a discount. This process is not the same. Normally these type of things also do not affect other people. Me playing against BigJJ and his 5K hangar is affect me directly, because if he did it honestly, he wouldn't have 80% of the stuff he has now and a much more level playing-field would have transpired. multiple this by 100's or whatever, it's toxic to the game and community. If Pixonic has a problem with it's pricing, don't buy it and let them manage thier business for themselves. It's not up to us to do it for them No.. We are talking apples all the way...And people are not thinking about it at all, or thinking it through properly..They are just emotionally reacting to something they do everyday..They are auto parroting the populist line on this...No one can refute the fact that Loaders pay full price in their currency then sell it at at a real discount to others. This is not hacking or cheating. Treating it as such is being intellectually dishonest. Legal Discounts are legal..The reason everyone hates BigJJ and and the other full MK2 players is that they have the access to the ability to load and the rest of us have to grind under Pixonics flawed business model...It's straight ENVY all the way..Its pure inequality of outcome which leads to attacking those who have more then we do to have it taken from them. If loaders were more prevalent and Pixonic was not in full Gabe Newell mode...Then we would all have a much better time of it in this game. A more even level playing field as you say..and cheaper prices. I doubt I will change peoples mind on this because its easy to take the populist side of things..But the populist side of thing is many times wrong.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 12, 2018 10:39:34 GMT -5
Sorry Rock but you are comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. Those people that are selling gift cards, payed full price or were gifted but don't need them and sell at a discount. Games are played to it's end then sold were once payed for full price and sold at a discount. This process is not the same. Normally these type of things also do not affect other people. Me playing against BigJJ and his 5K hangar is affect me directly, because if he did it honestly, he wouldn't have 80% of the stuff he has now and a much more level playing-field would have transpired. multiple this by 100's or whatever, it's toxic to the game and community. If Pixonic has a problem with it's pricing, don't buy it and let them manage thier business for themselves. It's not up to us to do it for them No.. We are talking apples all the way...And people are not thinking about it at all, or thinking it through properly..They are just emotionally reacting to something they do everyday..They are auto parroting the populist line on this...No one can refute the fact that Loaders pay full price in their currency then sell it at at a real discount to others. This is not hacking or cheating. Treating it as such is being intellectually dishonest. Legal Discounts are legal..The reason everyone hates BigJJ and and the other full MK2 players is that they have the access to the ability to load and the rest of us have to grind under Pixonics flawed business model...It's straight ENVY all the way..Its pure inequality of outcome which leads to attacking those who have more then we do to have it taken from them. If loaders were more prevalent and Pixonic was not in full Gabe Newell mode...Then we would all have a much better time of it in this game. A more even level playing field as you say..and cheaper prices. I doubt I will change peoples mind on this because its easy to take the populist side of things..But the populist side of thing is many times wrong. I don't have a problem with what you are saying... but there are people offering "services" that use stolen CCs to do this crap for multiple games. What is questionable is whether the people being targeted by this "crackdown" are using the nefarious ones or not. I don't know the details and therefor can't really say one way or the other what is happening here with these specific cases. But I know for a fact that there are illegal entities that do this crap with stolen money. That is wrong and should be stopped if it can be proven. If not, well... then I agree more with your line of thinking. Again, though, I don't have a dog in this hunt since I know so little about the exact circumstances.
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Post by Domino on Apr 12, 2018 10:41:34 GMT -5
Sorry Rock but you are comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. Those people that are selling gift cards, payed full price or were gifted but don't need them and sell at a discount. Games are played to it's end then sold were once payed for full price and sold at a discount. This process is not the same. Normally these type of things also do not affect other people. Me playing against BigJJ and his 5K hangar is affect me directly, because if he did it honestly, he wouldn't have 80% of the stuff he has now and a much more level playing-field would have transpired. multiple this by 100's or whatever, it's toxic to the game and community. If Pixonic has a problem with it's pricing, don't buy it and let them manage thier business for themselves. It's not up to us to do it for them No.. We are talking apples all the way...And people are not thinking about it at all, or thinking it through properly..They are just emotionally reacting to something they do everyday..They are auto parroting the populist line on this...No one can refute the fact that Loaders pay full price in their currency then sell it at at a real discount to others. This is not hacking or cheating. Treating it as such is being intellectually dishonest. Legal Discounts are legal..The reason everyone hates BigJJ and and the other full MK2 players is that they have the access to the ability to load and the rest of us have to grind under Pixonics flawed business model...It's straight ENVY all the way..Its pure inequality of outcome which leads to attacking those who have more then we do to have it taken from them. If loaders were more prevalent and Pixonic was not in full Gabe Newell mode...Then we would all have a much better time of it in this game. A more even level playing field as you say..and cheaper prices. I doubt I will change peoples mind on this because its easy to take the populist side of things..But the populist side of thing is many times wrong. Big assumption about me. I don't care about populous opinion, I will use my own intellect and make a informed decision. I decided to look into Loading and found several offers on Facebook for both IOS and Andriod. roughly 50-60% off asking price. Also, you are assumming a few aspects on the loading component, please verify your sources before we can debate ethics, until then we don't know the process on the loaders side. Therefore 50% off asking price is suspicious and wouldn't buy it on fear alone that it involves an illegal manner. Last point I will make: If you ran a business and people were side stepping your purchase process and buying your product at a significant discount and costing you profit, would you shrug it off?
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Apr 12, 2018 10:45:20 GMT -5
Sorry Rock but you are comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. Those people that are selling gift cards, payed full price or were gifted but don't need them and sell at a discount. Games are played to it's end then sold were once payed for full price and sold at a discount. This process is not the same. Normally these type of things also do not affect other people. Me playing against BigJJ and his 5K hangar is affect me directly, because if he did it honestly, he wouldn't have 80% of the stuff he has now and a much more level playing-field would have transpired. multiple this by 100's or whatever, it's toxic to the game and community. If Pixonic has a problem with it's pricing, don't buy it and let them manage thier business for themselves. It's not up to us to do it for them No.. We are talking apples all the way...And people are not thinking about it at all, or thinking it through properly..They are just emotionally reacting to something they do everyday..They are auto parroting the populist line on this...No one can refute the fact that Loaders pay full price in their currency then sell it at at a real discount to others. This is not hacking or cheating. Treating it as such is being intellectually dishonest. Legal Discounts are legal..The reason everyone hates BigJJ and and the other full MK2 players is that they have the access to the ability to load and the rest of us have to grind under Pixonics flawed business model...It's straight ENVY all the way..Its pure inequality of outcome which leads to attacking those who have more then we do to have it taken from them. If loaders were more prevalent and Pixonic was not in full Gabe Newell mode...Then we would all have a much better time of it in this game. A more even level playing field as you say..and cheaper prices. I doubt I will change peoples mind on this because its easy to take the populist side of things..But the populist side of thing is many times wrong. Did you even read what everyone else posted? Loaders are notorious for using stolen credit cards or hacked store accounts for purchases to pass on to other people for thier own profit, you keep ignoring that fact and going straight to the gambit of currency evaluation? You can see plenty of videos from users in other countries and the prices are more-or-less the same equivalents to USD, sure if there's a massive sudden shift in the value of a countries money it may take a little time for Pix's system (or whatever 3rd party is used) to catch up and adjust but you can't possibly think that these loaders are all from 3rd world countries legitimately spending a months to a years worth of salary to pass on in a shady deal to internet consumers. I hate to bag on you Rock because I think you're a good guy but you absolutely have blinders on when it comes to this subject and other subjects having to do with Pixonic's monetization model.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Apr 12, 2018 11:34:52 GMT -5
No.. We are talking apples all the way...And people are not thinking about it at all, or thinking it through properly..They are just emotionally reacting to something they do everyday..They are auto parroting the populist line on this...No one can refute the fact that Loaders pay full price in their currency then sell it at at a real discount to others. This is not hacking or cheating. Treating it as such is being intellectually dishonest. Legal Discounts are legal..The reason everyone hates BigJJ and and the other full MK2 players is that they have the access to the ability to load and the rest of us have to grind under Pixonics flawed business model...It's straight ENVY all the way..Its pure inequality of outcome which leads to attacking those who have more then we do to have it taken from them. If loaders were more prevalent and Pixonic was not in full Gabe Newell mode...Then we would all have a much better time of it in this game. A more even level playing field as you say..and cheaper prices. I doubt I will change peoples mind on this because its easy to take the populist side of things..But the populist side of thing is many times wrong. Big assumption about me. I don't care about populous opinion, I will use my own intellect and make a informed decision. I decided to look into Loading and found several offers on Facebook for both IOS and Andriod. roughly 50-60% off asking price. Also, you are assumming a few aspects on the loading component, please verify your sources before we can debate ethics, until then we don't know the process on the loaders side. Therefore 50% off asking price is suspicious and wouldn't buy it on fear alone that it involves an illegal manner. Last point I will make: If you ran a business and people were side stepping your purchase process and buying your product at a significant discount and costing you profit, would you shrug it off? Most people don't know where their ideas come from..They just spout them cause it gets them positive attention, and I am not saying that this is you. Group think is just dumbness with a free membership card. Clan members who you trust who you paypal then gift gold is the actual issue..Lets keep the debate there.. If you ran a bakery and another baker came to town with lower prices...are you allowed to shut him down?
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