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Post by alubyansky on May 30, 2018 9:38:50 GMT -5
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Except on the wiggliest spots on the tightest maps, Kumi ends up dashing a couple of times. Then it gets hit, maybe fires back. One more dash, same theatrics again, dead Kumi. The reason is the weak payload and low health. Kumiho's are potentially VERY annoying to the real dash/descend bots, but they are essentially nonlethal, unless the other guy is already at 50% or lower. Kumi's are great at either crippling or finishing off "bigger" bots. I think you didn't have a fight with a good Kumiho pilot. I had occasion to stand against some of them and they are deadly. Also the weapon is really important - Kumiho with Scourge is especially nasty as it has a long range... Quite possible.
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Post by ja5555 on May 30, 2018 9:52:12 GMT -5
Says Pixonic. It will cost more money to buy Inquisitor, if you try to sell parts you'll get more Au for Inquisitor's. I don't think so, says I. Haechi is pretty unique because while all robots have one "skill", Haechi has two of them. Not to mention being able to carry three Orkans. But maybe stealth/ jump and being able to equip heavy weapon makes Inquisitor better? Let me know what you think. Disclaimer: I do not own any of the mentioned robots, but have been destroyed by Haechi plenty of times. Did not have a chance to tangle with Inquisitor, yet. You do not have either and have never faced an inquistor. I think your hypothesis needs a touch more info. Both are good small map bots and both are great if the pilot knows what they are doing. Which is better depends on the situation.
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Post by stokr on May 30, 2018 10:05:37 GMT -5
For straight 1 vs 1, a haechi or bulga should never lose to an inquisitor. Frankly I don’t understand how you guys can see it any other way as it’s a very simple situation for the dash pilot Edit: assuming same weapon loadout, eg ork vs ork or taran vs taran I currently run 3 Bulgs and 2 Haechies. I have 2 unleveled Inquisitors in storage. I consistently take them with every one of my current CQC bots, so they just aren't a priority to level. Without the ground speed of the Spectre they're just a little too easy to avoid/escape. I'm waiting for an Exodus and then I'll bring one up to 12 and take it out for a few matches. Until then I have an unleveled Spectre that needs my attention once I finish Mk2ing my Scourges.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 10:08:13 GMT -5
Says Pixonic. It will cost more money to buy Inquisitor, if you try to sell parts you'll get more Au for Inquisitor's. I don't think so, says I. Haechi is pretty unique because while all robots have one "skill", Haechi has two of them. Not to mention being able to carry three Orkans. But maybe stealth/ jump and being able to equip heavy weapon makes Inquisitor better? Let me know what you think. Disclaimer: I do not own any of the mentioned robots, but have been destroyed by Haechi plenty of times. Did not have a chance to tangle with Inquisitor, yet. You do not have either and have never faced an inquistor. I think your hypothesis needs a touch more info. Both are good small map bots and both are great if the pilot knows what they are doing. Which is better depends on the situation. Me from Jan 20th didn't, but right now I have two Haechis, Inquisitor and fought both of them on battlefield numerous times. I really enjoy playing my "shotgun" inquisitor but I mostly use it in FFA mode. But Haechi is pretty much workhorse of my hangar so I more or less stand by what I wrote few months ago.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on May 30, 2018 10:26:43 GMT -5
In a pure 1v1, like a custom 1v1 match, no bot trait is more important than agility. A Kumiho can easily just widdle you away slowly, regardless of what you're using, simply because it can stay behind cover no matter what. In theory, yes. In practice, no. Except on the wiggliest spots on the tightest maps, Kumi ends up dashing a couple of times. Then it gets hit, maybe fires back. One more dash, same theatrics again, dead Kumi. The reason is the weak payload and low health. Kumiho's are potentially VERY annoying to the real dash/descend bots, but they are essentially nonlethal, unless the other guy is already at 50% or lower. Kumi's are great at either crippling or finishing off "bigger" bots. you sound like you havent met any scourge kumiho. They literally melt at close range. I have taken out lots of taran or orkan haechis with my 11/9 scourge kumiho. just waste their orkans by dashing I usually only take 1 orkan damage (50k~) while their haechi just suffers under merciless scourges. Same goes with tarans. but its pretty risky going against 1v1 to taran haechi but if you are under 200m you are most likely will be winner. Same goes with inquisitor let him jump at you then dash to cover wait and hit him until he dies
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Post by bronzeknee on May 30, 2018 10:33:10 GMT -5
They are different robots with different roles. I own both and regularly run an Orkan Haechi and Ember/Scourge Inquisitor. However, I feel the Haechi is the better overall robot slightly.
In a 1vs1, I think the Haechi is superior. The only time the Inquisitor wins is if Descend is available and Dash is on cooldown. If neither ability is up, it favors the Haechi, if the both are up, it also favors the Haechi.
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Post by alubyansky on May 30, 2018 10:56:16 GMT -5
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Except on the wiggliest spots on the tightest maps, Kumi ends up dashing a couple of times. Then it gets hit, maybe fires back. One more dash, same theatrics again, dead Kumi. The reason is the weak payload and low health. Kumiho's are potentially VERY annoying to the real dash/descend bots, but they are essentially nonlethal, unless the other guy is already at 50% or lower. Kumi's are great at either crippling or finishing off "bigger" bots. you sound like you havent met any scourge kumiho. They literally melt at close range. I have taken out lots of taran or orkan haechis with my 11/9 scourge kumiho. just waste their orkans by dashing I usually only take 1 orkan damage (50k~) while their haechi just suffers under merciless scourges. Same goes with tarans. but its pretty risky going against 1v1 to taran haechi but if you are under 200m you are most likely will be winner. Same goes with inquisitor let him jump at you then dash to cover wait and hit him until he dies Maybe vs Inquisitor, but the same can be said of Haechi (original comparison). I guess, if we rephrase the thread's question as, "What's an Inquisitor more afraid of, Haechi or Kumiho," you may have a point. Kumi/Rog/Other-Fast-Bots have an advantage 1 to 1 against slow unshielded bots, which Inquisitor is after stealth wears off. In that situation, it's the same as being in a Leo, Natasha, Etc. So, if you are a Kumiho pilot, and can get the Inquisitor to waste his jump and first salvo, and can wiggle around / hide behind barriers to screw his targeting to avoid getting face-melted in 5 seconds, then, yes, you win. It's a situational advantage, but it's a real advantage. Good point.
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Post by vengefulsoul on May 31, 2018 14:25:29 GMT -5
The "better" bot is relative depending on your own skill/playstyle, and map layout/opponents.
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