Inquisitor more valuable than Haechi

I didn't notice that there's already thread very similar to this one. Never mind then.

PS. I do agree that pricing of Inquisitor suggests that Pixonic will limit Haechi's capabilities in the future. Will see.

Here's a video I made of my Inquisitor vs an opponent's Haechi:

This topic must have tons of similar threads, but here's my 2 cents.

I have both Inquistor and Haechi leveled up to play in Masters/Champion level play.  I try to play mostly Team Death Match, so both bots are set up as close range fighters.  The Haechi is tri-Ork and the Inquisitor has Ember/Orks.  I've run birth with Tatsns, but I am wary of the Taran glitch biting me again.

Between the two, the Inquisitor performs consistently better due to the unload time being fully covered by the Descend jump's stealth.  I was really good with a Griffin and you are basically unhittable if you can master the Descend jump attack where you land above or below the target's default weapons firing line.    Honestly, a few hours of practice in Custom Mode with your Inquisitor will make you unhittable on the jump attack and there's can not much an opponent can do to stop me if I'm targeting you.  Not that I don't like my Haechi, but its just not as versatile as the Inquistor IMHO.  However, both bots and the Bulgasari are the best bots currently in the game.

My only real slight on the Haechi is more of how I think it will stack up against the new Specter and the Strider.  I don't think the Haechi will have much of a chance against a Specter with Tarans, Shocktrains, Scourges or the Strider with Ember/Magnums.  The Inquistor (and Bulgasari) on the other hand will do fine against these 2 new bots.  My gut feeling is that the Haechi (and Kumiho) will be seen as weak against Specter/Strider and I've stopped buying any component deals that feature the Haechi.

For straight 1 vs 1, a haechi or bulga should never lose to an inquisitor. Frankly I don’t understand how you guys can see it any other way as it’s a very simple situation for the dash pilot
Edit: assuming same weapon loadout, eg ork vs ork or taran vs taran

When you use descend, you need to be firing while finding a place to hide for descend to reload because it's hp is 1k less than that of a patton. When I face inquisitors, I tap fire a couple to trigger his descend and then dash into hiding and wait for his descend to wear out and then dash in for the kill. Once that stealth wears off, it is so squishy lol. I kill it before I need to reload tarans. Not trying to sound cocky here, but I don't ever recall losing to an inquisitor in a 1v1 unless I got ambushed while trying to fight someone else. 

Nix has previously been in the Legend League and is one of the best players I know and have had the pleasure of playing with. 

I'd take his word for it.

Also, I own both Dash as well as Inquisitor.  For pure 1 vs 1, i agree that a Dash (especially a Bulgasari or Haechi) would have the advantage if all things are equal, including skill.

Agreed, Inq is a terrific bot. I wouldn’t like to have it as my last bot when there are few players left is all I’m saying.

Fair enough. Still, pixonic places higher value on Inquisitor. Makes you wonder if that means they are considering limiting dash bots capabilities. 

I see that you are getting a lot of feedback on this question and the it's a split between Haechi/Inquisitor as to which is better.

Many pilots here that have posted have not confirmed:

1) That they actively play both bots (I play both)
2) What level those bots/weapons are (birth are Mk1 levels 11/12)
3) What league they play the bots in (never tanked and been Champion since April last year)
4) Whether they primarily Random or Squad (I seldom squad)
5) What mode they primarily play in (almost BR when I had a choice-almost always Team Death Match now)
6) Do they have 2 or more hangars (I have 1 hangar - 4 brawlers and 1 high damage mid-ranger)
7) Whether they have tested the Strider and Specter (this is the important - I've tested both)

My opinion is that both are not just good bots, but they are both superior bots as the game currently stands.  I prefer the Inquisitor because I don't squad.  If I did squad, Haechi is a better bot as it's a far superior advance under cover setup (since it is essentially bringing the cover with them) and advancing in force under cover is the winning tactic of this game.

You could easily say that if you play mostly random, then go with the Inquisitor and I you squad go with the Haechi.  The differences between the 2 when both pilots are the same levels on a 1-vs-1 are too small really.   I myself in a 1-vs-1 against a fellow Champion would pick my Inquisitor, as I know the jump launch and land points on nearly every map I play so that Haechi will hunted down (no way a Haechi on 1-vs-1 is hunting down an Ember/Taran or Ember/Orkan Inquisitor).  Regardless of choice though, the loser will be the one that makes the first mistake.

So get either one, you'll be okay with it.  However, if your resources are not infinite, I strongly suggest you consider what happens to both these bots once the Strider and Specter get here.  Test or go on YouTube to understand what these 2 bots mean to the Haechi and Inquisitor.  If I was in your situation and had neither bot, but could buy one now (and could not wait), I'd want to buy the bot that could still perform after the Strider/Specter get here.

Having tested both Strider/Specter, my strong belief is that the Haechi will get pushed out of Champion level hangars.  I just don't see my Haechi winning a spot in my brawler hangar.  If get either a Specter or a Strider.  The Okan Specter will eat the Haechi alive even the Haechi is at full strength and the Specter at half strength.  The Strider can cover 500m down to under 350 and still have not used all its Dashes - which most pilots do not understand the implications of, but the Haechi will be a easy kill by an Ember/Mag Strider with no counter attack possible.  

Im trying to give you the fullest opinion based on experience and what I have actually tested and my strong recommendation is that you pass on the Haechi.  The Inquisitor and Bulgasari are better choices that will still be relevant after Strider/Specter land.

Eh... I don't think so. The only thing the Kumiho is better at is speed.

The same is true for a well piloted inquisitor.  Never gonna get caught by a dash, all things being equal. The ember is just too much. Throw in 2 tarans and haechi is just flat out dead. The bulg might have a chance though.

Yes, I could see why bot with five dash charges or with FOUR Orkans will be a game changer. 

Pixonic is slowly painting itself into a corner because you can even argue against getting Strider/Specter because next wave of bots will have invisibility, five Orkans, two thunders and heated seats. And there's always present balancing issues which are already driving plenty of people away.   

As for which bot I will get, the answer is most probably none of them. I have about 2k Haechi parts, which took me over two months to collect, so I'm betting at this rate I'll lose interest in the game before getting it. Unless, of course, I win one in one of lotteries, at which point I'll just learn to like what I have.

 

Looking at the robots they test I see that rather than limiting dashers their plan is to "one-up" on every new bot generation. I guess Pixonic is thinking increased revenue stream, but I'm thinking game over. 

Seriously, if they put five charge dashers and four Orkan bots into the game I'm going back to playing PC games. 

This is a strong point. I also think these two bots could be game breakers. The dashbots were OP on release, but these ones are OP in comparison to dashbots. I couldn’t think of a much better way to finally motivate the f2p multitude enough to leave the game.