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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 10:56:12 GMT -5
Plasma bulgasari beats haechi (especially taran haechi), zeus, st, ancilot easily. Which is why I’m moving 2 ork haechis out of my primary hangar to make room for all 4 bulgasaris. Take from that what you will Will all four by plasma? If not, what loadouts do you do. 1 ST, 3 plasma bulgas 1 plasma haechi. But that's only for squad play, I doubt it will work well solo as you need more capability to handle different types of reds.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 17, 2018 11:09:40 GMT -5
So true. I have a level 10 Doc thats ive used like 3 times. Its just too squishy. Like you I so wanted it to be good but it just falls short time after time. I think there are hobos living in mine now its been up on blocks so long. My experience with the Doc is exactly the same as yours and seanh - I just cannot run the damn thing. But I gotta say that I've seen a few guys do really well with it - it's a different beast that requires a different way of playing. For me it's similar to Thunder Carnage - amazing in the right hands, but I never learned to use it well.
I liked my Doc. It was good with quad Tulu. That being said, as squishy as it is, it really would benefit from a few more km/hr. Just not as maneuverable as you'd expect from a non-dash medium mech.
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Post by mccawesome on Jan 17, 2018 11:59:12 GMT -5
I too ran Taran Bulg when I first got it. While good it was not game changing per se. Would not call it overrated though, since it still delivered a lot of firepower while having good mobility. However after I got my 3rd Shocktrain it is a completely different story. Being able to maintain distance from Orks and Tarans while showing your shield to Zeus, Trebs etc all while keeping the Shocktrains blasting away every 10 seconds or so is amazing(ly OP). At times I score 1M+ with this bot alone. The only thing I fear is multiple RDBs since dash can't save you as much then. I only have one Shocktrain, another is not yet on the horizon. I almost have components for third Scourge so I am looking forward to that. Get the scourge if it’s close I ran 3 on my bulg b4 I got ShockTs. You’ll able to utilize the shield more. With a range of 600 and increasing damage as you get closer it can be a sniper or a brawler if needed although I don’t recommend it. 3 scourges can put out some damage if played right and don’t forget turn on the target lock in the settings menu it will mean life or death on the battle field
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Jan 17, 2018 12:15:10 GMT -5
Since i run a 4 griff hanger, I can't be an unbiased opinion on the over rating of the griffen.. lol. However, *I* think the most over rated bots in the game are the Fujin and the fury. both of those are, on paper, awesome.. until you get to using them and then the wheels fall off. The rajin is pointless for anything other than a hydra platform, and the fury is too slow and wimpy to be of any use for anything other than a treb platform.
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Post by ryanringo on Jan 17, 2018 12:34:42 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump and 2) Kumiho - This robot looks really good on paper. It can dash every 5 seconds, making it the fastest ground bot in the game. However, it has one main problem. It trips alot. Almost everytime you dash on a slightly uneven surface, you end up with endlag like a griffin landing from a jump. This severely cripples its usefulness as it has no mobility for that split second. 3) Fujin - Ok this one is a bit of a stretch to some people, but quite a few think the fujin is a good way to counter DBs. Sure, it has a powerful shield and great firepower, but in the words of manni, It has to hide and make itself useless for 20 seconds to fully regenerate the shield. It also has less health than the haechi, leading to it being almost useless. Im a huge fujin fan. It isnt necessarily great as a front line combatant but if you play it right, it is one of the best close range support bots in the game. It makes narrow allys a one sided fight and gives your team the wall advantage if you are say holding a beacon. I personally run a tripple orkan fujin and it works wonders in the sense that I can Stroll into a firefight, shoot all my orkans at an enemy target and then set up a shield allowing my allies to move forward and not lose ground. It does have its downsides like its mildly slow speed and the recharge as you were saying, but I dont think that there is a better close range support minus the raijin.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 17, 2018 13:03:42 GMT -5
Gonna be pretty hard to take this seriously when you have the Kumiho listed as "overrated", because calling the Kumiho overrated is just plain foolishness.
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Post by Big Pappa 38 on Jan 17, 2018 13:12:29 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump and 2) Kumiho - This robot looks really good on paper. It can dash every 5 seconds, making it the fastest ground bot in the game. However, it has one main problem. It trips alot. Almost everytime you dash on a slightly uneven surface, you end up with endlag like a griffin landing from a jump. This severely cripples its usefulness as it has no mobility for that split second. 3) Fujin - Ok this one is a bit of a stretch to some people, but quite a few think the fujin is a good way to counter DBs. Sure, it has a powerful shield and great firepower, but in the words of manni, It has to hide and make itself useless for 20 seconds to fully regenerate the shield. It also has less health than the haechi, leading to it being almost useless. Don't blame the bot of the Kumiho, blame the pilot. Seems like all of these are a stretch. A good pilot can be extremely deadly with a Griff.
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Post by kingdavid1 on Jan 17, 2018 13:38:59 GMT -5
When I used to play the game I found the griffin to be a suicide bot. Jump towards the enemy over cover and unleash my db hopefully to take him out before he Kills me.
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Post by amidf on Jan 17, 2018 13:43:15 GMT -5
Whenever I want to make a point about the "No Skilled Pilot" argument, I'll have this thread to link to.
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 17, 2018 13:47:19 GMT -5
When I used to play the game I found the griffin to be a suicide bot. Jump towards the enemy over cover and unleash my db hopefully to take him out before he Kills me. If that's the case, switch to a Stuka build. It forces you to plan and think and use cover more. The Aphids are great at softening from a distance and then finish off with Orkans.
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Post by zer00eyz on Jan 17, 2018 13:55:53 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump and 2) Kumiho - This robot looks really good on paper. It can dash every 5 seconds, making it the fastest ground bot in the game. However, it has one main problem. It trips alot. Almost everytime you dash on a slightly uneven surface, you end up with endlag like a griffin landing from a jump. This severely cripples its usefulness as it has no mobility for that split second. 3) Fujin - Ok this one is a bit of a stretch to some people, but quite a few think the fujin is a good way to counter DBs. Sure, it has a powerful shield and great firepower, but in the words of manni, It has to hide and make itself useless for 20 seconds to fully regenerate the shield. It also has less health than the haechi, leading to it being almost useless. You know I have trouble swallowing the the griffin as overrated. If were talking about value for the cost then the griffin is probably one of the best bots in the game. The fact that a punisher griff is available for all silver and if well piloted can take down lots of bots that are better "on paper" should tell you something. I think the reason for its rating is its versatility. RDB, PDB, DB (+stuka), Molot, Rambo, scourge/gek, shock/gek, spider - can you name another bot that has as much fitting variety and can be effective in all of them (map dependence and mode aside) - if you want to experiment then the griff is one of the better platforms to do it on. That versatility comes at a cost, low HP, slow jump recharge, and sluggish movement - and all for a low silver price. If you don't know how any given griff is armed popping out from cover on one is always a risk.
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Post by krebby on Jan 17, 2018 14:06:26 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump and 2) Kumiho - This robot looks really good on paper. It can dash every 5 seconds, making it the fastest ground bot in the game. However, it has one main problem. It trips alot. Almost everytime you dash on a slightly uneven surface, you end up with endlag like a griffin landing from a jump. This severely cripples its usefulness as it has no mobility for that split second. 3) Fujin - Ok this one is a bit of a stretch to some people, but quite a few think the fujin is a good way to counter DBs. Sure, it has a powerful shield and great firepower, but in the words of manni, It has to hide and make itself useless for 20 seconds to fully regenerate the shield. It also has less health than the haechi, leading to it being almost useless. You know I have trouble swallowing the the griffin as overrated. If were talking about value for the cost then the griffin is probably one of the best bots in the game. The fact that a punisher griff is available for all silver and if well piloted can take down lots of bots that are better "on paper" should tell you something. I think the reason for its rating is its versatility. RDB, PDB, DB (+stuka), Molot, Rambo, scourge/gek, shock/gek, spider - can you name another bot that has as much fitting variety and can be effective in all of them (map dependence and mode aside) - if you want to experiment then the griff is one of the better platforms to do it on. That versatility comes at a cost, low HP, slow jump recharge, and sluggish movement - and all for a low silver price. If you don't know how any given griff is armed popping out from cover on one is always a risk. This analysis is spot-on. In fact, my opinion is nearly the reverse of the OP's. A very skilled Kumiho pilot is a nightmare to deal with; and the Fujin is a solid bot combing excellent firepower with (potentially) enormous tankiness.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 17, 2018 14:09:21 GMT -5
When I used to play the game I found the griffin to be a suicide bot. Jump towards the enemy over cover and unleash my db hopefully to take him out before he Kills me. You were playing him wrong.
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Post by Uhnonimis on Jan 17, 2018 14:20:09 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump I don't agree at all. The Griffin is a robot that needs a decent amount of skill and experience to be appreciated. When I started playing this game, I thought that the Leo was much better and I really didn't understand why there were so many Griffins around...but when I started to play better, I also started to love its firepower and mobility. And guess what? Now I have 0 Leos in my hangar, but 2 or 3 Griffins in Champions League/Master 1. The Raijin is your favourite robot right now, although it's useless in higher leagues. You will change your mind with time and experience, as I changed mine about the Leo I totally agree on the Fujin, while the Kumiho is a good bot. lol. Dumped my Griffin some time ago, but still have 2 Leos in my hangar in android expert.
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Post by zer00eyz on Jan 17, 2018 14:22:35 GMT -5
This analysis is spot-on. In fact, my opinion is nearly the reverse of the OP's. A very skilled Kumiho pilot is a nightmare to deal with; and the Fujin is a solid bot combing excellent firepower with (potentially) enormous tankiness. You and Thunderkiss are putting up the same argument on the Kumiho. But "overrated" isn't "bad" -- OP's point is that in almost 1/2 the maps - springfield, dead city, yama, canyon, dreadnaught, moon that tripping can be a liability, and limits the bots true potential. Knowing this limitation you can bait or force Kumiho pilots into these areas and feed them a face full of rockets when they stumble (because we have all died, or gotten kills by tripping at the bottom of the yama ramp) - The bot shines, and earns it's rep, as long as it isn't tripping over its own two feet.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Jan 17, 2018 14:33:12 GMT -5
I think you're missing the meaning of the word overrated. And because of that, you're misguided on all three accounts.
1. Griffin. All I've ever seen said about this bot is that it is the most versatile and useful Ag bot. That is a completely true statement.
2. Kumiho. While I personally feel this is currently the best bot in the game, the general consensus of most players is that it is the worst of the three dash bots. If anything, the Kumiho is underrated.
3. The Fujin. I've never seen someone call this bot amazing. I've seen it called hard to pilot, I've seen it called as a good balance between having 3 medium weapons and having weaknesses to compensate. But I've never seen a consensus that states this bot is amazing, or even overly good.
For something to be overrated, there first has to be hype. There is no hype over any of these three bots as being the best. Thus, by definition, they cannot be considered overrated.
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Post by krebby on Jan 17, 2018 14:40:08 GMT -5
You and Thunderkiss are putting up the same argument on the Kumiho. But "overrated" isn't "bad" -- OP's point is that in almost 1/2 the maps - springfield, dead city, yama, canyon, dreadnaught, moon that tripping can be a liability, and limits the bots true potential. Knowing this limitation you can bait or force Kumiho pilots into these areas and feed them a face full of rockets when they stumble (because we have all died, or gotten kills by tripping at the bottom of the yama ramp) - The bot shines, and earns it's rep, as long as it isn't tripping over its own two feet. While I cannot speak for Thunderkiss, I certainly didn't misconstrue the OP as saying that the Kumiho was bad. I just disagree with his assessment that the Kumiho's reputation outstrips the bot's usefulness/value. More importantly, I don't think think that tripping alone (which can be mitigated or avoided by piloting) is terribly relevant to assessing the Kumiho's value. It might be relevant in a discussion about which bots are the most difficult to learn and pilot well, of course.
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Post by zer00eyz on Jan 17, 2018 15:01:57 GMT -5
You and Thunderkiss are putting up the same argument on the Kumiho. But "overrated" isn't "bad" -- OP's point is that in almost 1/2 the maps - springfield, dead city, yama, canyon, dreadnaught, moon that tripping can be a liability, and limits the bots true potential. Knowing this limitation you can bait or force Kumiho pilots into these areas and feed them a face full of rockets when they stumble (because we have all died, or gotten kills by tripping at the bottom of the yama ramp) - The bot shines, and earns it's rep, as long as it isn't tripping over its own two feet. While I cannot speak for Thunderkiss, I certainly didn't misconstrue the OP as saying that the Kumiho was bad. I just disagree with his assessment that the Kumiho's reputation outstrips the bot's usefulness/value. More importantly, I don't think think that tripping alone (which can be mitigated or avoided by piloting) is terribly relevant to assessing the Kumiho's value. It might be relevant in a discussion about which bots are the most difficult to learn and pilot well, of course. For me, I can "avoid" lots of spots where the Kumi trips, as you put it "piloting". But being forced into lanes is a pretty big limitation, knowing where the trip traps happen to be offers me opportunity against Kumi pilots (both good and bad) because the way combat unfolds means you have to take the risk some times. Like I said I have been killed and gotten kills due to the tripping liability - The Kumi is better than a Rog, and by how much really comes down to piloting and terrain. There are lots of places where the Kumi should be king and it isn't because of the limits/risks imposed by the tripping that level out the playing field between the two -
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Post by mccawesome on Jan 17, 2018 15:06:52 GMT -5
This analysis is spot-on. In fact, my opinion is nearly the reverse of the OP's. A very skilled Kumiho pilot is a nightmare to deal with; and the Fujin is a solid bot combing excellent firepower with (potentially) enormous tankiness. You and Thunderkiss are putting up the same argument on the Kumiho. But "overrated" isn't "bad" -- OP's point is that in almost 1/2 the maps - springfield, dead city, yama, canyon, dreadnaught, moon that tripping can be a liability, and limits the bots true potential. Knowing this limitation you can bait or force Kumiho pilots into these areas and feed them a face full of rockets when they stumble (because we have all died, or gotten kills by tripping at the bottom of the yama ramp) - The bot shines, and earns it's rep, as long as it isn't tripping over its own two feet. I wait for a double dash and skip from structure to structure. Flat ground is a kumi’s best friend even if it is up hill lol
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Jan 17, 2018 16:12:13 GMT -5
The most over rated bot in the game: Stalker Depends on the league perhaps? It certainly does, but you'll find stalkers getting rolled out regularly all the way up into masters... because they are over rated!
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 17, 2018 17:18:09 GMT -5
There are places my pedestrian bots get hung up on. I have to avoid them or just be stuck on a pixel. That doesn't make my ancilot overrated. It means pix has to fix their 「dookie」 coding/textures/whatever it is.
If we measure things thusly, my fury is the best bot in the game because there are places it jumps.
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Post by Bui Dui on Jan 17, 2018 17:23:19 GMT -5
Doc, There, I said it out loud. Have one on my second account and I really really want it to be awesome, but it’s just not. Maybe it’s poor piloting but it’s my weakest bot and I do nothing with it that I can’t do better in a Griffin. Tulu’s might be the exception, but a zarnage is a better mid ranger anyway. Thinking hard about shelving it. Vortex
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Jan 17, 2018 18:33:57 GMT -5
Doc, There, I said it out loud. Have one on my second account and I really really want it to be awesome, but it’s just not. Maybe it’s poor piloting but it’s my weakest bot and I do nothing with it that I can’t do better in a Griffin. Tulu’s might be the exception, but a zarnage is a better mid ranger anyway. Thinking hard about shelving it. Vortex Did the Vortex get buffed in the most recent test servers? The first few weeks it was awful (less effective than Aphids). I thought it was a cool idea when it first came out, but a Medium weapon that is less effective than its Light counterpart was disappointing. Granted, I didn't play the test server the last few weeks - got completely turned off by the Exorcist.
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Post by Bui Dui on Jan 17, 2018 19:04:10 GMT -5
Did the Vortex get buffed in the most recent test servers? The first few weeks it was awful (less effective than Aphids). I thought it was a cool idea when it first came out, but a Medium weapon that is less effective than its Light counterpart was disappointing. Granted, I didn't play the test server the last few weeks - got completely turned off by the Exorcist. I watched one of the russian lead War Robots youtubers video of latest test server. Vortex reload speed got changed, so I think pix is trying to find of a way to make it stronger.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Jan 17, 2018 19:08:50 GMT -5
Did the Vortex get buffed in the most recent test servers? The first few weeks it was awful (less effective than Aphids). I thought it was a cool idea when it first came out, but a Medium weapon that is less effective than its Light counterpart was disappointing. Granted, I didn't play the test server the last few weeks - got completely turned off by the Exorcist. I watched one of the russian lead War Robots youtubers video of latest test server. Vortex reload speed got changed, so I think pix is trying to find of a way to make it stronger. Hopefully. From my experience, it was the targeting mechanics that made it so weak, and I didn't understand why it was so much less accurate than aphids. You would think they'd just use the same exact mechanics and make the missiles just look different. Or it could just be another menial release as their olive branch to the non-whales. Their virtual "here you go - have some half working stuff and shut up for a bit".
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Post by kingdavid1 on Jan 17, 2018 20:59:18 GMT -5
When I used to play the game I found the griffin to be a suicide bot. Jump towards the enemy over cover and unleash my db hopefully to take him out before he Kills me. You were playing him wrong. With all dashes and op weapons coming out, who even notices ??
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Post by garunixreborn on Jan 18, 2018 5:35:54 GMT -5
So i have recently made a post on the most underrated bots in the game, but now i am asking about the opposite. What are your opinions on the most overrated bots in the game? Here are my opinions: 1) Griffin - Lower HP than all heavy bots and some medium bots, sluggish walking speed, unforgiving jump and 2) Kumiho - This robot looks really good on paper. It can dash every 5 seconds, making it the fastest ground bot in the game. However, it has one main problem. It trips alot. Almost everytime you dash on a slightly uneven surface, you end up with endlag like a griffin landing from a jump. This severely cripples its usefulness as it has no mobility for that split second. 3) Fujin - Ok this one is a bit of a stretch to some people, but quite a few think the fujin is a good way to counter DBs. Sure, it has a powerful shield and great firepower, but in the words of manni, It has to hide and make itself useless for 20 seconds to fully regenerate the shield. It also has less health than the haechi, leading to it being almost useless. You know I have trouble swallowing the the griffin as overrated. If were talking about value for the cost then the griffin is probably one of the best bots in the game. The fact that a punisher griff is available for all silver and if well piloted can take down lots of bots that are better "on paper" should tell you something. I think the reason for its rating is its versatility. RDB, PDB, DB (+stuka), Molot, Rambo, scourge/gek, shock/gek, spider - can you name another bot that has as much fitting variety and can be effective in all of them (map dependence and mode aside) - if you want to experiment then the griff is one of the better platforms to do it on. That versatility comes at a cost, low HP, slow jump recharge, and sluggish movement - and all for a low silver price. If you don't know how any given griff is armed popping out from cover on one is always a risk. Now this here is the problem! You say that it is good value for cost. But guess what. Does that scale up when facing more expensive bots? NO!! This is one of the many reasons the griffin is so highly overrated. Sure some people can use it pretty well, but come face to face with a bulgasari, haechi or pretty much any gold or component bot, you are pretty much dead. The griffin is outclassed in so many ways by even the hover bot. Now are you seeing why I hate the griffin so much? Keep in mind, I used to use a PDB, RDB and even DB and Stuka setup before it dropped it in gold league 1. My raijin does better, so I will stick with that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 5:41:49 GMT -5
]Now this here is the problem! You say that it is good value for cost. But guess what. Does that scale up when facing more expensive bots? NO!! This is one of the many reasons the griffin is so highly overrated. Sure some people can use it pretty well, but come face to face with a bulgasari, haechi or pretty much any gold or component bot, you are pretty much dead. The griffin is outclassed in so many ways by even the hover bot. Now are you seeing why I hate the griffin so much? Keep in mind, I used to use a PDB, RDB and even DB and Stuka setup before it dropped it in gold league 1. My raijin does better, so I will stick with that The Griffin is the ONLY Silver/WSP bot that still holds its own against much more expensive robots. You won't see Raijins, Fujins, Leos etc. in higher leagues just because they are crap compared to what the Griffin has to offer. It's not just the value for the cost, the Griffin is one of the best bots around (with the exception, of course, of Dash bots), absolutely speaking (and not only relatively to the price). Edit: a Plasma Griffin can easily kill an Orkan Haechi and can win (although with low health after the fight) against a Taran Haechi. Same against a Kumiho. The Bulgasari, on the other hand, is much more difficult to kill because of its massive HP pool and good mobility, but you can hit it with Orkans and with a bit of skill even win the fight.
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Post by garunixreborn on Jan 18, 2018 5:41:52 GMT -5
This analysis is spot-on. In fact, my opinion is nearly the reverse of the OP's. A very skilled Kumiho pilot is a nightmare to deal with; and the Fujin is a solid bot combing excellent firepower with (potentially) enormous tankiness. You and Thunderkiss are putting up the same argument on the Kumiho. But "overrated" isn't "bad" -- OP's point is that in almost 1/2 the maps - springfield, dead city, yama, canyon, dreadnaught, moon that tripping can be a liability, and limits the bots true potential. Knowing this limitation you can bait or force Kumiho pilots into these areas and feed them a face full of rockets when they stumble (because we have all died, or gotten kills by tripping at the bottom of the yama ramp) - The bot shines, and earns it's rep, as long as it isn't tripping over its own two feet. Thank you! The only maps where the tripping is not a problem are Shenzhen, Springfield’s building areas and valley around the center area.
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Post by kukurukukuk on Jan 18, 2018 6:05:53 GMT -5
You know I have trouble swallowing the the griffin as overrated. If were talking about value for the cost then the griffin is probably one of the best bots in the game. The fact that a punisher griff is available for all silver and if well piloted can take down lots of bots that are better "on paper" should tell you something. I think the reason for its rating is its versatility. RDB, PDB, DB (+stuka), Molot, Rambo, scourge/gek, shock/gek, spider - can you name another bot that has as much fitting variety and can be effective in all of them (map dependence and mode aside) - if you want to experiment then the griff is one of the better platforms to do it on. That versatility comes at a cost, low HP, slow jump recharge, and sluggish movement - and all for a low silver price. If you don't know how any given griff is armed popping out from cover on one is always a risk. Now this here is the problem! You say that it is good value for cost. But guess what. Does that scale up when facing more expensive bots? NO!! This is one of the many reasons the griffin is so highly overrated. Sure some people can use it pretty well, but come face to face with a bulgasari, haechi or pretty much any gold or component bot, you are pretty much dead. The griffin is outclassed in so many ways by even the hover bot. Now are you seeing why I hate the griffin so much? Keep in mind, I used to use a PDB, RDB and even DB and Stuka setup before it dropped it in gold league 1. My raijin does better, so I will stick with that How is that overrated? You are comparing a $5 bot to $300 bot. The Griffin is rated just fine, perhaps less than it should be. Just think about it. You can buy one just by playing a few games, and if you take the time to learn how to pilot it you can survive against or even overpower, bots that are vastly more expensive. Yes, it is outclassed, but so is every bot before the Dashbots and still, it is one of the very few that has a chance against them.
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