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Post by Joopiter on Dec 21, 2017 10:05:29 GMT -5
Sorry to be negative this soon after the update, but..... I've only had 5 matches, but I can confidently say that the reworked TDM is all about 500m range and up. Yes the new cover they've added helps, but not enough to make it as enjoyable as BR. And I thought the beacons were going to be closer. They've put them at the same distance as your furthest home beacon but now there's just 3 long distance beacons instead of the one in the center. I could've sworn I saw some test server videos where at least one of the beacons was further up towards the reds. I've only played Springfield, Powerplant and Dreadnought. And now they're back to Random mode for the other option? Do they plan this stuff to frustrate the player? Sadly, I guess it's time to change some of my heavies out for campers.
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Post by oakwhelie on Dec 21, 2017 10:23:12 GMT -5
I decided to stay away from the game for a while because of random mode. i hate beacon rush and i wont hesitate to eject whenever the mm drop me in there.
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Post by ogpondskum on Dec 21, 2017 10:37:15 GMT -5
I decided to stay away from the game for a while because of random mode. i hate beacon rush and i wont hesitate to eject whenever the mm drop me in there. I hate BR too but I won't eject, I'll play but I'm not happy about playing it. I used to love TDM but I don't like the extra cover on the small maps like Valley and Dead City. I thought there was enough cover already and adding more just makes the maps hard to navigate. I'll probably just do my tasks each day and be done for the day until Random goes away. The up side is I won't feel compelled to spend all of my Au on upgrading weapons as quickly as I can as I won't be playing as much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 10:39:59 GMT -5
I've been playing TDM since it's been available again, yes you're right about the Mid-range having the upper hand because of people camping at spawn.
I had a red Natasha zenit+nori who was playing with his clan mate, focus on my Aphid Jesse the whole match in TDM Powerplant, I got pi-sed off, he was literally annoying the hell out of me camping with his clan mate, so I rolled out my Shocktrain Hover to flank him via the shipwreck side, managed to kill him and only to have the POS spawn another one but this time right next to his clan mate camping with a thunder Raijin. GRR, mofos >:(
Edit: After the battle, I checked the 2 POS's hangers to see it was two god damn tankers with each having 5k victories and 5 slots, sighs facepalm.
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Post by seanh on Dec 21, 2017 11:32:34 GMT -5
Just played 3 games on my 6/6 android account. Got powerplant, Yam and Shenzhen. Have to say they were 3 great games. Yes there were campers, loadz of trebs and hydras, but to be honest fairly ineffective. I had all close range and with the cover had no problem getting at the redz. Have the holloween Orkan Kimiho on that account and he was playing havoc in the cover. Other close range bots were all doing fine, loads of corner shooting opportunities. The account is in diamond now so every fecker i run into has at least 2 levels higher gear (most are 3 or 4), but the cover really does help avoid damage while still dishing it out.
As before however one blue down and your team is goosed from the outset. Hard to come back from opening at five nil down.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 21, 2017 11:38:50 GMT -5
I've been playing TDM since it's been available again, yes you're right about the Mid-range having the upper hand because of people camping at spawn. I had a red Natasha zenit+nori who was playing with his clan mate, focus on my Aphid Jesse the whole match in TDM Powerplant, I got pi-sed off, he was literally annoying the hell out of me camping with his clan mate, so I rolled out my Shocktrain Hover to flank him via the shipwreck side, managed to kill him and only to have the POS spawn another one but this time right next to his clan mate camping with a thunder Raijin. GRR, mofos Edit: After the battle, I checked the 2 POS's hangers to see it was two god damn tankers with each having 5k victories and 5 slots, sighs facepalm. I hate to say this, but the Zenit/Nori Nat rocked in the last TDM, and I have a feeling it'll rock in this one too. Makes me wish I'd dusted off and leveled up my Zenits and Noris. This build is excellent for TDM because: - It can hit far from cover with little to no risk of return fire - If can flush out the mid range campers that are beating up on you blue knifers - It makes red screens shake, giving the advantage to your blues in CQC - It can take out snipers (not that there are a lot of them in TDM) - It can flush out the Hydra and Spydra douches - basically out-douche the douchers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 11:53:40 GMT -5
I hate to say this, but the Zenit/Nori Nat rocked in the last TDM, and I have a feeling it'll rock in this one too. Makes me wish I'd dusted off and leveled up my Zenits and Noris. This build is excellent for TDM because: - It can hit far from cover with little to no risk of return fire - If can flush out the mid range campers that are beating up on you blue knifers - It makes red screens shake, giving the advantage to your blues in CQC - It can take out snipers (not that there are a lot of them in TDM)- It can flush out the Hydra and Spydra douches - basically out-douche the douchers Yes, Natasha Zenit/Noricum does have great area coverage, but Knife fighters can push through by using cover to cover and walking in a zig-zag motion, the trick is to keep moving and keep an eye out for other knife fighters. Just then on Moon map TDM, I waited before I spawn in my first bot to see what the enemy team deploys in, it was what I was expecting a zenit/noricum natasha, so I spawn in my Aphid jesse, closed the distance quickly due to the mobility of the Light bot and gave him a taste of my wrath to campers: 3 aphid volleys to the face, destroyed him while he tried to get away helplessly. I haven't seen a single Hydra pilot since mid-November and that's why I aimed for a light-medium hanger to counter Natasha snipers.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 21, 2017 11:58:27 GMT -5
Good job. I love the Aphid Jesse. I hope to run a Vortex/Aphid Gareth one day.
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Post by optimusprime on Dec 21, 2017 12:45:13 GMT -5
I decided to stay away from the game for a while because of random mode. i hate beacon rush and i wont hesitate to eject whenever the mm drop me in there. I hate BR too but I won't eject, I'll play but I'm not happy about playing it. I used to love TDM but I don't like the extra cover on the small maps like Valley and Dead City. I thought there was enough cover already and adding more just makes the maps hard to navigate. I'll probably just do my tasks each day and be done for the day until Random goes away. The up side is I won't feel compelled to spend all of my Au on upgrading weapons as quickly as I can as I won't be playing as much. TDM is a no-no to me,because I am not playing this game to just kill the reds.Beacon rush I will play,but I dont like it.Domination is where your brain have to actually think,domination is the reason I fell in love with this game.I am a chess master,thats why I am good at this game.Need strategy,tactics,knowledge and planing before acting.They need to change back to the option where I can choose my mode,before I played 17 out of 20 games in domination,now its 50-50.In beacon rush peapole with better robots and weapons have way too much advantage over me,in domination I that advantage is almost none!
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 21, 2017 12:54:32 GMT -5
But why is random back?
I don't want to play TDM, but I don't like Random, I want to be able to pick Beacon Rush or Domination when I want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 13:02:28 GMT -5
Good job. I love the Aphid Jesse. I hope to run a Vortex/Aphid Gareth one day. I chose Jesse over Patton for mobility.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 13:05:32 GMT -5
But why is random back? I don't want to play TDM, but I don't like Random, I want to be able to pick Beacon Rush or Domination when I want. When pix attempts to do the right thing by making the game fun and enjoyable. it ends up the other way around. Also with the 2nd task chain beacon tasks, you're going to end up getting beacons either way regardless of DOM or BR.
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 21, 2017 13:07:50 GMT -5
But why is random back? I don't want to play TDM, but I don't like Random, I want to be able to pick Beacon Rush or Domination when I want. When pix attempts to do the right thing by making the game fun and enjoyable. it ends up the other way around. Also with the 2nd task chain beacon tasks, you're going to end up getting beacons either way regardless of DOM or BR. The right thing to do is only add options, don't remove them from a game, otherwise you risk alienating the players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 13:14:30 GMT -5
When pix attempts to do the right thing by making the game fun and enjoyable. it ends up the other way around. Also with the 2nd task chain beacon tasks, you're going to end up getting beacons either way regardless of DOM or BR. The right thing to do is only add options, don't remove them from a game, otherwise you risk alienating the players. I find it odd too, why not 3 buttons for 3 modes? Also, are they really planning to put the new game modes they mentioned: King of the hill / Free for all into one button like did with BR and DOM?
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Post by Jame-thon on Dec 21, 2017 13:28:01 GMT -5
The right thing to do is only add options, don't remove them from a game, otherwise you risk alienating the players. I find it odd too, why not 3 buttons for 3 modes? Also, are they really planning to put the new game modes they mentioned: King of the hill / Free for all into one button like did with BR and DOM? There's a strong chance. But there's not enough of a player base to support one button for each game mode and still provide adequate MM which is the problem. My opinion is they can only support two "buttons" with the infrastructure they have set up. Dont forget each platform has it's own playerbase. If all the platforms were combined then this wouldn't be as much as an issue. I'm not a developer but an improvement comment I've always had for them from like a year ago, was look, if you can do it, and pay for the license or whatever you need to pay for, you should pony up and do it. If you're servers can't handle it, invest in high end ones cause you can definitely have more options with a larger player base imo. But going back to the the topic, I would rather have a rotation of domination AND a new game mode every say month or something of that sort. Developers would probably say, oh well you have hangers to address the random modes. Anyhow, my 0.02 on that issue. I'm not a fan of mashing them together into random as well.
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Post by ManO' War on Dec 21, 2017 13:35:32 GMT -5
Ran about 10 games this morning. The Shocktrains still rule. I'm in Champions League, so I run against them every game. I feel that the added cover of the maps and the fact people cluster in TDM for defense makes the Shocktrain even more OP in TDM.
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Post by ogpondskum on Dec 21, 2017 17:11:38 GMT -5
Ran about 10 games this morning. The Shocktrains still rule. I'm in Champions League, so I run against them every game. I feel that the added cover of the maps and the fact people cluster in TDM for defense makes the Shocktrain even more OP in TDM. I too am in Champion and I just bumped all my Shocktrains to 11 for TDM. I love watching red scurry like ants when the Shocktrains hit them.
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Post by ogpondskum on Dec 21, 2017 17:13:27 GMT -5
I hate BR too but I won't eject, I'll play but I'm not happy about playing it. I used to love TDM but I don't like the extra cover on the small maps like Valley and Dead City. I thought there was enough cover already and adding more just makes the maps hard to navigate. I'll probably just do my tasks each day and be done for the day until Random goes away. The up side is I won't feel compelled to spend all of my Au on upgrading weapons as quickly as I can as I won't be playing as much. TDM is a no-no to me,because I am not playing this game to just kill the reds.Beacon rush I will play,but I dont like it.Domination is where your brain have to actually think,domination is the reason I fell in love with this game.I am a chess master,thats why I am good at this game.Need strategy,tactics,knowledge and planing before acting.They need to change back to the option where I can choose my mode,before I played 17 out of 20 games in domination,now its 50-50.In beacon rush peapole with better robots and weapons have way too much advantage over me,in domination I that advantage is almost none! Domination is my favorite but as I had BR, I'll just play TDM and continue to complain to PIX about not adding more modes.
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Post by ManO' War on Dec 22, 2017 11:08:06 GMT -5
TDM is a no-no to me,because I am not playing this game to just kill the reds.Beacon rush I will play,but I dont like it.Domination is where your brain have to actually think,domination is the reason I fell in love with this game.I am a chess master,thats why I am good at this game.Need strategy,tactics,knowledge and planing before acting.They need to change back to the option where I can choose my mode,before I played 17 out of 20 games in domination,now its 50-50.In beacon rush peapole with better robots and weapons have way too much advantage over me,in domination I that advantage is almost none! Domination is my favorite but as I had BR, I'll just play TDM and continue to complain to PIX about not adding more modes. OG, we've played with and against each other a few times. Whenever you are in your ST set-ups as a Red, I focus you down brother lol! The Shock train is the worst part of this game if you don't own them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 11:14:24 GMT -5
Tanking Dream Machine, nothing else is good about TDM, doesn't matter how they change it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 12:43:22 GMT -5
Domination is my favorite but as I had BR, I'll just play TDM and continue to complain to PIX about not adding more modes. OG, we've played with and against each other a few times. Whenever you are in your ST set-ups as a Red, I focus you down brother lol! The Shock train is the worst part of this game if you don't own them. Yeah, I get what you mean, in Canyon TDM, I rolled out my Shocktrain Hover first and the whole red team was prioritizing me as the biggest threat. They were really desperate to get rid of my Shocktrain Hover ASAP, had some reds do a full lap around Canyon because I kept gliding away to keep a distance of 500m.
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Post by Domino on Dec 22, 2017 15:33:48 GMT -5
Domination is my favorite but as I had BR, I'll just play TDM and continue to complain to PIX about not adding more modes. OG, we've played with and against each other a few times. Whenever you are in your ST set-ups as a Red, I focus you down brother lol! The Shock train is the worst part of this game if you don't own them. If you're on the other end of a leveled Shocktrain, yes it's the worse part of the game.
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Post by ΜØØSE on Dec 22, 2017 15:50:31 GMT -5
I've been playing TDM since it's been available again, yes you're right about the Mid-range having the upper hand because of people camping at spawn. I had a red Natasha zenit+nori who was playing with his clan mate, focus on my Aphid Jesse the whole match in TDM Powerplant, I got pi-sed off, he was literally annoying the hell out of me camping with his clan mate, so I rolled out my Shocktrain Hover to flank him via the shipwreck side, managed to kill him and only to have the POS spawn another one but this time right next to his clan mate camping with a thunder Raijin. GRR, mofos Edit: After the battle, I checked the 2 POS's hangers to see it was two god damn tankers with each having 5k victories and 5 slots, sighs facepalm. I hate to say this, but the Zenit/Nori Nat rocked in the last TDM, and I have a feeling it'll rock in this one too. Makes me wish I'd dusted off and leveled up my Zenits and Noris. This build is excellent for TDM because: - It can hit far from cover with little to no risk of return fire - If can flush out the mid range campers that are beating up on you blue knifers - It makes red screens shake, giving the advantage to your blues in CQC - It can take out snipers (not that there are a lot of them in TDM) - It can flush out the Hydra and Spydra douches - basically out-douche the douchers I totally agree. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/18106/zenit-hole-discovered-viable-tactic
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